Religious extacy is described in the Gospel of John chapter 14, versus 23-24. 'If a man loves me he will keep my word, and my father will love him. My father and I will come and make our abode with him.
One cannot pray to God for this to happen. It is very rare and very brief, like a lightening strike. It is the most pleasurable blissful extatic experience I have ever had.
It is inexplicable. When the FATHER and the SON come to you in this way YOU WILL KNOW IT.
I can impart certain aspects of this experience that indicate it is from the devine. When the FLOW coming to me relates to a certain man it consists of "PAIRS OF OPPOSITTES" . Unlike humans God does see both sides of the Hegalian DIALECTIC . The
characteristic picture one sees of all saints ( good/bad sides) is always present when the FLOW coming from God in this contemplative fusion relates to a man. Also, one must not grab hold of anything in this free flow coming from God to you and stop to
look and examine it. If you do so it is like placing a boulder in a free flowing beautiful river it disrupts the things following.
david R. I do not know how to place my text elsewhere.
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A number of years ago I experienced a powerful conversion
experience. It was by far the most incredible experience
of divine acceptance I have ever known. . . .
Slowly I have rejected much of my fundamentalistic views
but I still hunger for that divine acceptance. For that
experience of oneness....
Unfortunately, it does not last ... the initial euphoria
gives way to the reality of the world ...
All spiritual traditions recognize a stage in spiritual
development alternatively called 'realizing emptiness' or
'the dark night of the soul' ... once the euphoria of
initial insight wears off one is faced with the fact that
such 'highs' are balanced by 'lows' ...
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The lows need not balance the highs. However, to maintain a
consistent high one must train oneself to "dig" pain,
frustration, terror, and confusion.
Art often provides a ante-chamber to "digging" the negative
emotions. A good stage-production of Prokofiev's ballet Romeo
and Juliet glorifies pain. It is pain from the beginning to
the end. You have to go ready to cry. And then you can enjoy
the pain. It can be exhilarating--which is why the story,
play, and music are so popular.
After learning to "dig" the pain of the work of art, the next
chamber might be learning to "dig" the PROJECTION of pain.
For example, some have taken to the stage to PLAY the part of
Romeo or Juliet. When you have learned to "dig" the
PROJECTION of pain, you are very near the source of all divine
acceptance, the experience of oneness.
The ultimate step is learning to "dig" the projection of pain
in your real, off-the-stage life. For this you need a highly
developed audience--because there is no divine acceptance, no
exhilaration, and no experience of oneness in projecting the
pain in your own life to an empty auditorium. You need an
appreciative audience. You may have to become an artist.
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On Thursday, May 2, 1996 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7
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A number of years ago I experienced a powerful conversion
experience. It was by far the most incredible experience
of divine acceptance I have ever known. . . .
Slowly I have rejected much of my fundamentalistic views
but I still hunger for that divine acceptance. For that
experience of oneness....
Unfortunately, it does not last ... the initial euphoria
gives way to the reality of the world ...
All spiritual traditions recognize a stage in spiritual
development alternatively called 'realizing emptiness' or
'the dark night of the soul' ... once the euphoria of
initial insight wears off one is faced with the fact that
such 'highs' are balanced by 'lows' ...
=================================
The lows need not balance the highs. However, to maintain a
consistent high one must train oneself to "dig" pain,
frustration, terror, and confusion.
Art often provides a ante-chamber to "digging" the negative
emotions. A good stage-production of Prokofiev's ballet Romeo
and Juliet glorifies pain. It is pain from the beginning to
the end. You have to go ready to cry. And then you can enjoy
the pain. It can be exhilarating--which is why the story,
play, and music are so popular.
After learning to "dig" the pain of the work of art, the next
chamber might be learning to "dig" the PROJECTION of pain.
For example, some have taken to the stage to PLAY the part of
Romeo or Juliet. When you have learned to "dig" the
PROJECTION of pain, you are very near the source of all divine
acceptance, the experience of oneness.
The ultimate step is learning to "dig" the projection of pain
in your real, off-the-stage life. For this you need a highly
developed audience--because there is no divine acceptance, no
exhilaration, and no experience of oneness in projecting the
pain in your own life to an empty auditorium. You need an
appreciative audience. You may have to become an artist.
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