the last effect is the first cause?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_argument https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmoved_mover
cyclical cause and effect?
cyclical universe?
the Yuga are an example?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga
On 13/11/2020 1:24 pm, Ted wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 20:46:40 -0500, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
the last effect is the first cause?
like in the big bang/crunch?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch
like in the Yuga Cycle?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga_Cycle
if God knows everything he knows all of eternity and eternity isfinite
to God?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniscience
is cyclical cause and effect the answer to the first cause argument?
the last effect is the first cause?
--
Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D.
https://www.dalekelly.org/
Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner
Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner
Employment of a bit of logic will answer your questions, Dale.
Now, we know that creation was a process of transforming from the
simple to the complex. And we know that spaghetti, from it's simple
arrangement in the box, proceeds to a complex pattern when cooked, and
even more so after adding tomato sauce. We know, therefore, that only
the FSM possesses the qualities necessary to have created the universe.
Hahahahahaha, you are so naughty Ted. My wife makes a nice spaghetti.
On 11/12/2020 9:24 PM, Ted wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 20:46:40 -0500, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
the last effect is the first cause?
like in the big bang/crunch?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch
like in the Yuga Cycle?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga_Cycle
if God knows everything he knows all of eternity and eternity isfinite
to God?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniscience
is cyclical cause and effect the answer to the first cause argument?
the last effect is the first cause?
Employment of a bit of logic will answer your questions, Dale.
Now, we know that creation was a process of transforming from the
simple to the complex. And we know that spaghetti, from it's simple
arrangement in the box, proceeds to a complex pattern when cooked, and
even more so after adding tomato sauce. We know, therefore, that only
the FSM possesses the qualities necessary to have created the universe.
Further, as explained in the Gospel, we know that the FSM created the
universe and biosphere in four days and then rested for three. Now
that you understand these truths, Dale, I recommend you read the
Gospel of the FSM and seek out a Pastafarian congregation near you to
answer any additional questions you may have in the future.
yes, I have heard of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) and the book
what created the FSM? FSM is no answer to the first cause argument ...
the last effect is the first cause makes most sense to me
On 11/13/2020 2:19 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
On 13/11/2020 1:24 pm, Ted wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 20:46:40 -0500, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
the last effect is the first cause?
like in the big bang/crunch?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch
like in the Yuga Cycle?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga_Cycle
if God knows everything he knows all of eternity and eternity isfinite
to God?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniscience
is cyclical cause and effect the answer to the first cause argument?
the last effect is the first cause?
--
Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D.
https://www.dalekelly.org/
Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner
Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner
Employment of a bit of logic will answer your questions, Dale.
Now, we know that creation was a process of transforming from the
simple to the complex. And we know that spaghetti, from it's simple
arrangement in the box, proceeds to a complex pattern when cooked,
and even more so after adding tomato sauce. We know, therefore, that
only the FSM possesses the qualities necessary to have created the
universe.
Hahahahahaha, you are so naughty Ted. My wife makes a nice spaghetti.
the Mother side of my family is Italian
On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 20:46:40 -0500, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
the last effect is the first cause?
like in the big bang/crunch?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch
like in the Yuga Cycle?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga_Cycle
if God knows everything he knows all of eternity and eternity isfinite
to God?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniscience
is cyclical cause and effect the answer to the first cause argument?
the last effect is the first cause?
--
Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D.
https://www.dalekelly.org/
Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner
Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner
Employment of a bit of logic will answer your questions, Dale.
Now, we know that creation was a process of transforming from the simple
to the complex. And we know that spaghetti, from it's simple arrangement
in the box, proceeds to a complex pattern when cooked, and even more so
after adding tomato sauce. We know, therefore, that only the FSM
possesses the qualities necessary to have created the universe.
Further, as explained in the Gospel, we know that the FSM created the universe and biosphere in four days and then rested for three. Now that
you understand these truths, Dale, I recommend you read the Gospel of
the FSM and seek out a Pastafarian congregation near you to answer any additional questions you may have in the future.
On 13/11/2020 6:57 pm, dale wrote:
On 11/13/2020 2:19 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
On 13/11/2020 1:24 pm, Ted wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 20:46:40 -0500, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
the last effect is the first cause?
like in the big bang/crunch?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch
like in the Yuga Cycle?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga_Cycle
if God knows everything he knows all of eternity and eternity isfinite
to God?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniscience
is cyclical cause and effect the answer to the first cause argument?
the last effect is the first cause?
--
Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D.
https://www.dalekelly.org/
Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner
Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner
Employment of a bit of logic will answer your questions, Dale.
Now, we know that creation was a process of transforming from the
simple to the complex. And we know that spaghetti, from it's simple
arrangement in the box, proceeds to a complex pattern when cooked,
and even more so after adding tomato sauce. We know, therefore, that
only the FSM possesses the qualities necessary to have created the
universe.
Hahahahahaha, you are so naughty Ted. My wife makes a nice spaghetti.
the Mother side of my family is Italian
No Italian in me but my best friend when I first found God was Italian
and I spent many a meal around the noisy table laughing and joking and eating, and eating...and yeah...eating.
Loved it.
On 13/11/2020 1:24 pm, Ted wrote:wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 20:46:40 -0500, dale <dale@dalekelly.org>
the last effect is the first cause?
like in the big bang/crunch?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch
like in the Yuga Cycle?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga_Cycle
if God knows everything he knows all of eternity and eternity isfinite
to God?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniscience
argument?is cyclical cause and effect the answer to the first cause
the last effect is the first cause?
--
Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D.
https://www.dalekelly.org/
Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner
Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner
simpleEmployment of a bit of logic will answer your questions, Dale.
Now, we know that creation was a process of transforming from the
arrangementto the complex. And we know that spaghetti, from it's simple
more soin the box, proceeds to a complex pattern when cooked, and even
after adding tomato sauce. We know, therefore, that only the FSM
possesses the qualities necessary to have created the universe.
Hahahahahaha, you are so naughty Ted. My wife makes a nicespaghetti.
Michael Christ
On 11/13/2020 3:05 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
On 13/11/2020 6:57 pm, dale wrote:
On 11/13/2020 2:19 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
On 13/11/2020 1:24 pm, Ted wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 20:46:40 -0500, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote: >>>>>> the last effect is the first cause?
like in the big bang/crunch?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch
like in the Yuga Cycle?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga_Cycle
if God knows everything he knows all of eternity and eternity isfinite
to God?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniscience
is cyclical cause and effect the answer to the first cause argument? >>>>>
the last effect is the first cause?
--
Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D.
https://www.dalekelly.org/
Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner
Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner
Employment of a bit of logic will answer your questions, Dale.
Now, we know that creation was a process of transforming from the
simple to the complex. And we know that spaghetti, from it's simple
arrangement in the box, proceeds to a complex pattern when cooked,
and even more so after adding tomato sauce. We know, therefore,
that only the FSM possesses the qualities necessary to have created
the universe.
Hahahahahaha, you are so naughty Ted. My wife makes a nice spaghetti. >>>>
the Mother side of my family is Italian
No Italian in me but my best friend when I first found God was Italian
and I spent many a meal around the noisy table laughing and joking and
eating, and eating...and yeah...eating.
Loved it.
I'm kind of spoiled with Italian food, very picky about it
On 20/06/2021 12:13 pm, Dale wrote:
the last effect is the first cause?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_argument
What about ...
the big bang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
followed by the big crunch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch
and then another big bang, etc.?
And then there are the Yuga ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga_Cycle
1) creation
2) maintenance
3) destruction
4) conquest of destruction and rebirth of creation
How about fitting an eternal maintenance?
It is getting boring, Buddy, you saying nothing of any depth.
Michael Chrust
... Anything is better than nothing, Buddy ...
Heaven is left behind each cycle?
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