• What are spirits?

    From dale@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 12 21:37:43 2020
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    What are spirits?

    Are spirits living concepts?


    --
    Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D.
    https://www.dalekelly.org/
    Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner
    Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner

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  • From zebra2@windstream.net@21:1/5 to dale on Tue Sep 8 06:10:07 2020
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    On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:37:43 -0400, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    What are spirits?

    Are spirits living concepts?

    The Bible calls angels spirits, also God is a spirit. (John 4:24)
    Spirits are invisible beings (angels) created a little higher than
    humans. They are likely what people call as ghosts. These are the bad
    spirits.

    James
    www.jw.org
    The Bible is truths

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to zebra2@windstream.net on Wed Sep 9 10:58:25 2020
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    On 2020-09-08 6:10 a.m., zebra2@windstream.net wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:37:43 -0400, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    What are spirits?

    Are spirits living concepts?

    The Bible calls angels spirits, also God is a spirit. (John 4:24)
    Spirits are invisible beings (angels) created a little higher than
    humans. They are likely what people call as ghosts. These are the bad spirits.

    Spirit lives in the spiritual world. The spiritual world is not the
    physical world. Life on Earth is the spirit of life manifesting itself
    into the physical world. The spirit of life itself still lives in the
    spiritual world. Therefore, we, as life, may appear to exist in the
    physical world, but our essence of life, which is the spirit within, has
    always been living in the spiritual world. In reality, we are not
    animals living on Earth. We are children of God living in the spiritual
    heaven instead.


    James
    www.jw.org
    The Bible is truths




    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From duckgumbo32@cox.net@21:1/5 to zebra2@windstream.net on Sat Sep 12 12:07:44 2020
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    On Tue, 08 Sep 2020 06:10:07 -0400, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

    On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:37:43 -0400, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    What are spirits?

    Are spirits living concepts?

    The Bible calls angels spirits, also God is a spirit. (John 4:24)
    Spirits are invisible beings (angels) created a little higher than
    humans. They are likely what people call as ghosts. These are the bad >spirits.

    So you're saying the Holy Spirit is just an angel?
    the dukester, American-American

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  • From zebra2@windstream.net@21:1/5 to aaa on Fri Oct 8 10:17:31 2021
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    XPost: alt.religion.alt.religion.mormon

    On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 10:58:25 -0400, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2020-09-08 6:10 a.m., zebra2@windstream.net wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:37:43 -0400, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    What are spirits?

    Are spirits living concepts?

    The Bible calls angels spirits, also God is a spirit. (John 4:24)
    Spirits are invisible beings (angels) created a little higher than
    humans. They are likely what people call as ghosts. These are the bad
    spirits.

    Spirit lives in the spiritual world. The spiritual world is not the
    physical world. Life on Earth is the spirit of life manifesting itself
    into the physical world. The spirit of life itself still lives in the >spiritual world. Therefore, we, as life, may appear to exist in the
    physical world, but our essence of life, which is the spirit within, has >always been living in the spiritual world. In reality, we are not
    animals living on Earth. We are children of God living in the spiritual >heaven instead.

    So where did Hitler live?



    James
    www.jw.org
    The Bible is truths



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  • From zebra2@windstream.net@21:1/5 to duckgumbo32@cox.net on Fri Oct 8 12:23:14 2021
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    On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 12:07:44 -0500, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:

    On Tue, 08 Sep 2020 06:10:07 -0400, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

    On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:37:43 -0400, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    What are spirits?

    Are spirits living concepts?

    The Bible calls angels spirits, also God is a spirit. (John 4:24)
    Spirits are invisible beings (angels) created a little higher than
    humans. They are likely what people call as ghosts. These are the bad >>spirits.

    So you're saying the Holy Spirit is just an angel?

    The Bible calls angels spirits.

    Here are some words describing the Holy Spirit so-called person:

    --“that: Mt 1:20
    --“holy spirit in bodily shape like a dove “ (Lu 3:22) No where in the
    Bible does a righteous person take the form of an animal.
    --”this” (Acts 2:33)
    --”it” (Acts 8:16)
    --”it” (Acts 11:15)
    --“it” (Acts 20:23)
    --”it” (1 Cor 12:11)
    --”which” [not who] (Eph 1:13)
    --”which” [not who] (2 Tim 1:14)

    The Bible has several meanings for the word "spirit". Depending how
    the Bible uses the word, determines the particular meaning that it
    has.

    (The same is true in many languages. For example, the English word
    "spike". It can mean (1)a snaillike fastener, (2) a small fish, (3) to
    add alcohol to a drink, etc. Thus regardless of whether the original
    word comes from Latin (spica), it can stray away from that original
    meaning.)

    But the Bible's use of the word does not stray quite so far away from
    its original meaning of 'force in motion'. The Bible's use of "spirit"
    (Hebrew "ruach" and Greek "pneuma") can mean:

    (1) a force in motion.

    (2) wind. Ex 10:13, "...the LORD made an east wind [ruach] blow across
    the land...

    (3) the vital force in living creatures. Such as Psalm 146:4 quoted
    earlier.

    (4) spirit persons. Such as God and his angels and Jesus in Heaven.
    See Mt 8:16; Joh 4:24; 1 Ki 22:21.

    (5) God's active force. Commonly called Holy Spirit. See He 2:4.

    All these meanings have something in common: They all refer to that
    which is invisible to human sight and which gives evidence of force in
    motion. And such invisible force is capable of producing visible
    effects.

    Yes to summarize. God's Holy Spirit is the 'muscle' behind God's
    actions. It is defined as a "force in motion". It is the force God
    uses to accomplish His will.

    James
    Understand the Bible
    www.jw.org

    Got any Bible questions? Fire away.


    the dukester, American-American

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to zebra2@windstream.net on Fri Oct 8 13:08:30 2021
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    On 2021-10-08 10:17 a.m., zebra2@windstream.net wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 10:58:25 -0400, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2020-09-08 6:10 a.m., zebra2@windstream.net wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:37:43 -0400, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    What are spirits?

    Are spirits living concepts?

    The Bible calls angels spirits, also God is a spirit. (John 4:24)
    Spirits are invisible beings (angels) created a little higher than
    humans. They are likely what people call as ghosts. These are the bad
    spirits.

    Spirit lives in the spiritual world. The spiritual world is not the
    physical world. Life on Earth is the spirit of life manifesting itself
    into the physical world. The spirit of life itself still lives in the
    spiritual world. Therefore, we, as life, may appear to exist in the
    physical world, but our essence of life, which is the spirit within, has
    always been living in the spiritual world. In reality, we are not
    animals living on Earth. We are children of God living in the spiritual
    heaven instead.

    So where did Hitler live?

    Who care? I don't.






    James
    www.jw.org
    The Bible is truths




    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From zebra2@windstream.net@21:1/5 to aaa on Sat Dec 18 13:40:31 2021
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    XPost: alt.religion.alt.religion.mormon

    On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 10:58:25 -0400, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2020-09-08 6:10 a.m., zebra2@windstream.net wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:37:43 -0400, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    What are spirits?

    Are spirits living concepts?

    The Bible calls angels spirits, also God is a spirit. (John 4:24)
    Spirits are invisible beings (angels) created a little higher than
    humans. They are likely what people call as ghosts. These are the bad
    spirits.

    Spirit lives in the spiritual world. The spiritual world is not the
    physical world. Life on Earth is the spirit of life manifesting itself
    into the physical world. The spirit of life itself still lives in the >spiritual world. Therefore, we, as life, may appear to exist in the
    physical world, but our essence of life, which is the spirit within, has >always been living in the spiritual world. In reality, we are not
    animals living on Earth. We are children of God living in the spiritual >heaven instead.

    I don't think the victims of 9/11 would agree that they were in a
    "spiritual heaven", at that time.

    James
    Understand the Bible
    www.jw.org







    James
    www.jw.org
    The Bible is truths



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  • From zebra2@windstream.net@21:1/5 to duckgumbo32@cox.net on Sat Dec 18 13:47:46 2021
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    XPost: alt.religion.alt.religion.mormon

    On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 12:07:44 -0500, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:

    On Tue, 08 Sep 2020 06:10:07 -0400, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

    On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:37:43 -0400, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    What are spirits?

    Are spirits living concepts?

    The Bible calls angels spirits, also God is a spirit. (John 4:24)
    Spirits are invisible beings (angels) created a little higher than
    humans. They are likely what people call as ghosts. These are the bad >>spirits.

    So you're saying the Holy Spirit is just an angel?

    The Bible uses the word "spirit" in several ways. It isn't always
    meaning a person:

    the Bible's use of the word does not stray quite so far away from its
    original meaning of 'force in motion'. The Bible's use of "spirit"
    (Hebrew "ruach" and Greek "pneuma") can mean:

    (1) wind. Ex 10:13, "...the LORD made an east wind [ruach] blow across
    the land...

    (2) the vital force in living creatures. Such as Psalm 146:4 quoted
    earlier.

    (3) spirit persons. Such as God and his angels and Jesus in Heaven.
    See Mt 8:16; Joh 4:24; 1 Ki 22:21.

    (4) God's active force. Commonly called Holy Spirit. See He 2:4.

    All these meanings have something in common: They all refer to that
    which is invisible to human sight and which gives evidence of force in
    motion. And such invisible force is capable of producing visible
    effects.


    the dukester, American-American

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to zebra2@windstream.net on Sat Dec 18 13:12:02 2021
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    XPost: alt.religion.alt.religion.mormon

    zebra2@windstream.net wrote in news:sqasrgtgggv64shhjhkqhmgo25ifr3eia7@ 4ax.com:

    On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 12:07:44 -0500, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:

    On Tue, 08 Sep 2020 06:10:07 -0400, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

    On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:37:43 -0400, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    What are spirits?

    Are spirits living concepts?

    The Bible calls angels spirits, also God is a spirit. (John 4:24)
    Spirits are invisible beings (angels) created a little higher than >>>humans. They are likely what people call as ghosts. These are the bad >>>spirits.

    So you're saying the Holy Spirit is just an angel?

    The Bible uses the word "spirit" in several ways. It isn't always
    meaning a person:


    You are replying to a thread from
    18 months ago, from a poster who died
    12 months ago?



    the Bible's use of the word does not stray quite so far away from its original meaning of 'force in motion'. The Bible's use of "spirit"
    (Hebrew "ruach" and Greek "pneuma") can mean:

    (1) wind. Ex 10:13, "...the LORD made an east wind [ruach] blow across
    the land...

    (2) the vital force in living creatures. Such as Psalm 146:4 quoted
    earlier.

    (3) spirit persons. Such as God and his angels and Jesus in Heaven.
    See Mt 8:16; Joh 4:24; 1 Ki 22:21.



    And demons. The Bible does claim that
    demonic possession is a real thing.



    (4) God's active force. Commonly called Holy Spirit. See He 2:4.

    All these meanings have something in common: They all refer to that
    which is invisible to human sight and which gives evidence of force in motion. And such invisible force is capable of producing visible
    effects.


    the dukester, American-American


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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sat Dec 18 17:38:32 2021
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    On 12/18/2021 2:12 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    ... from a poster who died
    12 months ago? ...

    still here!


    --
    Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to zebra2@windstream.net on Sat Dec 18 21:16:23 2021
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    XPost: alt.religion.alt.religion.mormon

    On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 13:47:46 -0500, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 12:07:44 -0500, duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote:


    On Tue, 08 Sep 2020 06:10:07 -0400, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

    On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:37:43 -0400, dale <dale@dalekelly.org>
    wrote:

    What are spirits?

    Are spirits living concepts?

    The Bible calls angels spirits, also God is a spirit. (John 4:24)
    Spirits are invisible beings (angels) created a little higher than >>humans. They are likely what people call as ghosts. These are the
    bad
    spirits.

    So you're saying the Holy Spirit is just an angel?


    The Bible uses the word "spirit" in several ways. It isn't always
    meaning a person:


    the Bible's use of the word does not stray quite so far away from
    its
    original meaning of 'force in motion'. The Bible's use of "spirit"
    (Hebrew "ruach" and Greek "pneuma") can mean:


    (1) wind. Ex 10:13, "...the LORD made an east wind [ruach] blow
    across
    the land...


    (2) the vital force in living creatures. Such as Psalm 146:4 quoted
    earlier.


    (3) spirit persons. Such as God and his angels and Jesus in Heaven.
    See Mt 8:16; Joh 4:24; 1 Ki 22:21.


    (4) God's active force. Commonly called Holy Spirit. See He 2:4.


    All these meanings have something in common: They all refer to that
    which is invisible to human sight and which gives evidence of force
    in
    motion. And such invisible force is capable of producing visible
    effects.



    Thanks for explaining that, James.

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to zebra2@windstream.net on Sat Dec 18 21:15:40 2021
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    On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 13:40:31 -0500, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 10:58:25 -0400, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:


    On 2020-09-08 6:10 a.m., zebra2@windstream.net wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:37:43 -0400, dale <dale@dalekelly.org>
    wrote:

    What are spirits?

    Are spirits living concepts?

    The Bible calls angels spirits, also God is a spirit. (John 4:24)
    Spirits are invisible beings (angels) created a little higher
    than
    humans. They are likely what people call as ghosts. These are
    the bad
    spirits.

    Spirit lives in the spiritual world. The spiritual world is not
    the
    physical world. Life on Earth is the spirit of life manifesting
    itself
    into the physical world. The spirit of life itself still lives in
    the
    spiritual world. Therefore, we, as life, may appear to exist in
    the
    physical world, but our essence of life, which is the spirit
    within, has
    always been living in the spiritual world. In reality, we are not
    animals living on Earth. We are children of God living in the
    spiritual
    heaven instead.


    I don't think the victims of 9/11 would agree that they were in a
    "spiritual heaven", at that time.


    aaa is a worthless troll, fit only for your kill filter.

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  • From El Kabong@21:1/5 to Dale on Sun Dec 19 01:42:16 2021
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    XPost: alt.religion.alt.religion.mormon

    Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    On 12/18/2021 2:12 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    ... from a poster who died
    12 months ago? ...

    still here!

    Of course, because there's internet service in hell.
    Everyone knows that.

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  • From %@21:1/5 to El Kabong on Sun Dec 19 06:56:09 2021
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    On 2021-12-19 2:42 a.m., El Kabong wrote:
    Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    On 12/18/2021 2:12 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    ... from a poster who died
    12 months ago? ...

    still here!

    Of course, because there's internet service in hell.
    Everyone knows that.

    and it's fiber optic too

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to 8hasrg5qhijcfhhfo75ft7in6qnc6j0je0@ on Thu Dec 23 11:07:53 2021
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    XPost: alt.religion.alt.religion.mormon

    On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 13:40:31 -0500, zebra2@windstream.net in
    alt.atheism with message-id
    <8hasrg5qhijcfhhfo75ft7in6qnc6j0je0@4ax.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 10:58:25 -0400, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2020-09-08 6:10 a.m., zebra2@windstream.net wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:37:43 -0400, dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

    What are spirits?

    Are spirits living concepts?

    The Bible calls angels spirits, also God is a spirit. (John 4:24)
    Spirits are invisible beings (angels) created a little higher than
    humans. They are likely what people call as ghosts. These are the bad
    spirits.

    Spirit lives in the spiritual world. The spiritual world is not the >>physical world. Life on Earth is the spirit of life manifesting itself
    into the physical world. The spirit of life itself still lives in the >>spiritual world. Therefore, we, as life, may appear to exist in the >>physical world, but our essence of life, which is the spirit within, has >>always been living in the spiritual world. In reality, we are not
    animals living on Earth. We are children of God living in the spiritual >>heaven instead.

    I don't think the victims of 9/11 would agree that they were in a
    "spiritual heaven", at that time.

    James
    Understand the Bible
    www.jw.org


    I have yet to see any evidence that supports anything
    spiritual being real. Therefore I consider the subject
    imaginary.

    --
    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    There are four despicable occupations:
    Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
    Pimps
    Priests
    Reporters

    But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

    National Socialist American Worker's Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
    and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
    Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
    including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
    Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
    Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
    Cory Booker.

    The new American Nazi replacement organization.

    Don't build a wall, build a kill zone. Make illegal
    border crossing efforts unsurvivable.

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