• Re: Grand Scheme Dynamics

    From Georg Tillerman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 06:43:35 2023
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    In Grand Scheme Dynamics, there are very    L O N G    Days
    and little /apparent/ 24 hour days all blur together
    like minutes and seconds do, -in- our apparent 24s.
    it's just one Long Day and you may take naps during the course on it
    but slowly, "Friday" may /feel/ like a wednesday,
    and the days seem to blur together.
    "you said that already"

          did i?

    maybe i'll add teh bit about breaking up the monotony here...

    just a sec



    avoid mechanized thinking.


    no, don't deny the mechanized nature in reality,

    avoid allowing the mechanism to dictate.

    and...



    "yes dear, it's time for your
    regularly scheduled breakup
    of the monotony"


    now all we have to do is figure out
    how to randomly schedule something.

    yes, we are staggering the schedule,
    in a staggered fashion.

    but, its geometric progression tells
    us that even the breakup of the monotony
    will become the schedule

    you have your little schedule and
    start scheduling in rescheduling.


    MWF MWF MWF MWF MWF MWF MWF MWF MWF
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    what about the 'switches'?


    increased stability is afforded by finer detail.








    "why double space and triple space?"

    sometimes, the "negative space" of the letters
    against the empty part of the page,
    has interesting shape to it...
    it just sort of happens

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  • From Georg Tillerman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 06:45:40 2023
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    but, its geometric progression tells
    us that even the breakup of the monotony
    will become the schedule

    so, one could say that such a

    'breakup of the monotony'

    -initiates the inclusion- of a
    finer detail into the 'schedule.'

    and this finer detail affords a
    greater stability to the system.

    translation?

    probably...


    increased stability is afforded by finer detail.
    but, its geometric progression tells
    us that even the breakup of the monotony
    will become the schedule
    and this finer detail affords a
    greater stability to the system.

    we can suggest that as we progress
    we will simply be finding the greater degree
    of detail that is already present in the system,

    and in so doing, afford ourselves a more
    stable association with the system itself,

    and not be at odds with the system,
    in whatever guise it dons
    for a specific instance.

    for instance, when your comprehension
    of the system is a four toothed gear,

    and the system itself is a
    fine spline of 1024 teeth,

    the mesh is not as nice as it could be.

    here we run into two possible outcomes,

    the system itself conflicting with, chewing up
    and ruining your personalized considerations, or,

    the system itself being an assist in
    fashioning your 'gears' to fit -it-.

    where your willingness to be formed and
    shaped by fine detail is a considerable factor
    in your achieving an optimum performance.

    but still, we would rise above
    purely mechanical thinking.

    and we will...

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  • From Georg Tillerman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 06:56:53 2023
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    given the nature of this universe,

    postulating God is perfectly reasonable.

    the material universe is not infinitely old
    the material universe has a beginning

    unreasonable to assume that the smallest
    volume of the universe is finite and non-zero.

    zero volume completely removes any
    possibility of harmonic oscillation
    from matter.

    now, show yourself that there
    is no tuning fork to -induce-
    a vibration in anything
    else anywhere.

    now, what made the material universe ignite?

    no accidental ignition is possible.
    no accidental ignition is possible.
    no accidental ignition is possible.

    there simply is no trigger.

    and there is your absolute necessity
    for a Creative Personality.

    genesis can -not- be an accident.

    and that which you can see now,
    was brought into being by this
    Creative Personality which
    you can not see.

    otherwise, the material universe
    never ignites, it remains static.

    The Creator Made the material universe happen.

    it's that simple.

    this is -reasonable-

    and that's all that matters.

    it is -reasonable-

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  • From Georg Tillerman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 07:04:28 2023
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    the consciousness of God is the medium

    see, before there was any thing
    God is conscious of God aside from any thing
    the consciousness of God is the medium
    upon which the consciousness of God propagates.

    for all practical purposes, 'our' consciousness
    is propagated upon the electrical impulses
    generated by our 'brains'
    we have and are, essentially, a
    'consciousness emulator'

    this consciousness emulator, which we are,
    can detect and magnify the consciousness
    of God which dwells inviolable
    needing no physical medium upon which
    to propagate and impervious to tresspass
    by any and all physical adulteration.


    and so, we shed the 'dead works'
    associated with our physical beings
    which stand in the way of our conscious
    reception of the Holy Conciousness of God.

    likewise, as the Holy Consciousness of God
    pares away our physical barriers to the Presence
    we 'see the light' of this Holy Consciousness of God
    more clearly as through a polished lens and not
    a dark mirror.

    this is the 'Magnificat'

    in essence

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  • From Georg Tillerman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 06:37:31 2023
    XPost: alt.bible, alt.messianic, alt.religion.christian
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    In Grand Scheme Dynamics, there are very L O N G Days

    and little /apparent/ 24 hour days all blur together

    like minutes and seconds do, -in- our apparent 24s.

    it's just one Long Day and you may take naps during the course on it

    but slowly, "Friday" may /feel/ like a wednesday,

    and the days seem to blur together.

    "you said that already"

    did i?


    maybe i'll add teh bit about breaking up the monotony here...



    just a sec



    "why double space and triple space?"



    sometimes, the "negative space" of the letters

    against the empty part of the page,

    has interesting shape to it...


    it just sort of happens

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  • From Georg Tillerman@21:1/5 to someone on Sun Jul 23 06:57:54 2023
    XPost: alt.bible, alt.messianic, alt.religion.christian
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    i did mention the "semi-permeable membrane" bit before...


    Timothy Sutter wrote:

    so, either you say that all people have the Holy Spirit
    abiding from flesh birth and no matter what they do or think,
    it is the Holy Spirit who does and thinks....<...>

    someone said:

    Is God spirit?


    more to the point, is hydrogen gas, "spirit"?

    is gold and platinum, "spirit"?

    someone said:

    Is God infinite?


    hydrogen gas, gold and platinum do not seem to be "infinite"

    based on keen observations, these -things- are "finite"

    someone said:

    If God is INFINITE SPIRIT (holy Spirit)
    then there is NOWHERE where God is not.


    if you draw a distinction between matter and "spirit"

    then, it may be somewhat like a "semi-permeable membrane"


    because we may be able to suggest that "God's Spirit"

    has no such "exclusion principle" as does matter


    and therefore, can be present 'where' matter is present,

    without -being- itself, made of matter, while
    we cannot say the same thing about matter

    in that matter is finite and not present

    where there is no matter present.


    and now there's the prospect of -interaction-


    and, 'finite' matter may not be able to
    -comprehend- "Spirit" unless that Spirit
    make itself known.


    man seems to be in possession of a "consciousness emulator"


    while God is "Pure Consciousness"


    and then there is "communication"

    or the prospect thereof of such a communcation
    between said "consciousness emulators"
    and God's own Pure Consciousness


    and this is the distinction we point out.


    that of communicative interaction betwen God and man


    and not just assuming that being in a universe where God IS


    demands such communication without direction.







    the semi-permeable membrane

    if, you skip over the "procedure and methodology" section,

    you will never be able to compare a result

    with the "results" section,

    and it would never be my compelling element
    to -plead- with -anyone- who will -not- follow
    the "procedures and methodologies" section
    and simply says;

    "i don't get your results and therefore,
    your results are invalid"






    in other words,

    i don't have to plead with anyone or any group

    to follow the "procedures and methodologies" section,

    but who, simply -insist- that their ignorance and

    lack of knowledge is the -only- _possible_ result.



    all the while, 'they' or whomsoever is/are all to willing
    to take dish fed results sections about phenomena that
    -they- have never experienced personally for granted
    and -without- "personal experience" as "evidence"



    so, they 'believe' one thing that they have never
    =personally= experienced because they want to be
    part of that group who follows such and such an ideology,

    but make demands of another group for -evidence- that
    -they- are simply unwilling to gather up -by- following
    the proper and correct "procedures and methodologies"

    and so, by personal preference
    and personal preference alone,

    they accept one ideological framework as correct
    -without- personal experience -as- 'evidence'

    and reject another ideological framework
    simply because they won't -look- -for-
    the evidences themselves, and rush precipitously
    to the conclusion that there is no evidence to be seen,

    based on group favorability and group favorability alone.


    anyway, a semi-permeable membrane, in the natural,
    is like a grating that allows some things to pass through
    and yet, prevents other things from passing through,
    like maybe sodium ions which are small can pass through
    and potassium ions which are larger cannot,
    so, an electircal gradient it set up and this
    helps to regulate heart contrctions etc.

    so, in likeness,

    this is a gradient which certain phenomena

    can pass ---> in a one way fashion

    you may not be able to just waltz over through
    the semi-permeable membrane and "see" God almighty,

    but God almighty, not only can, but -must- come
    'through the veil' to you.


    and 'communion' is possible but then we have

    to, also, deal with the 'signal to noise' problems...

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  • From Georg Tillerman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 06:55:06 2023
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    if there is nothing and only nothing

    the only possible replica of nothing is nothing,

    and, nothing can do nothing and only nothing is.

    in order for something to be,

    something always is.



    what is

    the original something

    the original indivisible entirety

    that which is




    activity potential

    something can happen

    something does something

    something happens



    if nothing is nothing is done



    something that is is something that does


    is does



    something does something to something



    nothing else is

    that can do something

    to something



    is does



    is acts on is

    is is not acted upon

    because nothing else is



    how is does is known to is


    this is who is is

    the one who knows

    is is is



    something that is is something
    that can be doing something


    something that is is something that
    can be making something happen.


    and there is the origin

    the beginning

    and the end of all regression


    The Origin


    Is Is


    The Primary Source

    Is aware

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  • From Georg Tillerman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 23 08:18:24 2023
    XPost: alt.bible, alt.messianic, alt.religion.christian
    XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife

    but, its geometric progression tells
    us that even the breakup of the monotony
    will become the schedule

    so, one could say that such a

        'breakup of the monotony'

    -initiates the inclusion- of a
    finer detail into the 'schedule.'

    and this finer detail affords a
    greater stability to the system.


    sort of like, when some people are-were
    in developeMental stages, the little wax wheel
    in their brains had a large rut laid down as
    opposed to fine grooves.

    and every stimulus and thought that comes
    to them, gravitates into that particular
    rut and they interpret these based on
    comparisons to that catch-all rut.

    while these may not be able to recoup
    a system of fine grooves in their heads,
    they can terrace that rut so as to slowly
    creep out of that rut and not be a prisoner
    to a knee that doesn't even jerk any more.

    needless to say, everyone should probably
    be continuously fine tuning their brain waves
    so as to avoid any similarly perilous precipices,
    and to avoid falling over to cliffs into headlong
    spiralling towards abyssmal mentallities.

    we have help.

    etcetera etcetera etcetera





    it has something to do with a stumbling block.

    like there's a seemingly trivial barrier.

    and then i fade back into the stuff
    everyone has heard several times.

    is 'good deeds' a result or a cause?

    in as much as -it-, 'good deeds', can be
    a result and a cause, one can trip over
    -it-, 'good deeds'

    when is it result and when is is cause?

    in this funny place, around the stumbling block,
    it seems as if 'good deeds' is -first- a result
    and -then- a cause.

    speaking of the love of God,

    'good deeds' don't cause God to love,

    the love of God will result in 'good deeds'

    and then, 'good deeds' will, in a sense,
    cause or bring about, a deeper and more
    profound understanding of God in
    the abiding presence.

    so, in a certain sense,
    as the stumbling block
    is processed correctly, ....what?

    what?

    or is that obvious?

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