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i did mention the "semi-permeable membrane" bit before...
Timothy Sutter wrote:
so, either you say that all people have the Holy Spirit
abiding from flesh birth and no matter what they do or think,
it is the Holy Spirit who does and thinks....<...>
someone said:
Is God spirit?
more to the point, is hydrogen gas, "spirit"?
is gold and platinum, "spirit"?
someone said:
Is God infinite?
hydrogen gas, gold and platinum do not seem to be "infinite"
based on keen observations, these -things- are "finite"
someone said:
If God is INFINITE SPIRIT (holy Spirit)
then there is NOWHERE where God is not.
if you draw a distinction between matter and "spirit"
then, it may be somewhat like a "semi-permeable membrane"
because we may be able to suggest that "God's Spirit"
has no such "exclusion principle" as does matter
and therefore, can be present 'where' matter is present,
without -being- itself, made of matter, while
we cannot say the same thing about matter
in that matter is finite and not present
where there is no matter present.
and now there's the prospect of -interaction-
and, 'finite' matter may not be able to
-comprehend- "Spirit" unless that Spirit
make itself known.
man seems to be in possession of a "consciousness emulator"
while God is "Pure Consciousness"
and then there is "communication"
or the prospect thereof of such a communcation
between said "consciousness emulators"
and God's own Pure Consciousness
and this is the distinction we point out.
that of communicative interaction betwen God and man
and not just assuming that being in a universe where God IS
demands such communication without direction.
the semi-permeable membrane
if, you skip over the "procedure and methodology" section,
you will never be able to compare a result
with the "results" section,
and it would never be my compelling element
to -plead- with -anyone- who will -not- follow
the "procedures and methodologies" section
and simply says;
"i don't get your results and therefore,
your results are invalid"
in other words,
i don't have to plead with anyone or any group
to follow the "procedures and methodologies" section,
but who, simply -insist- that their ignorance and
lack of knowledge is the -only- _possible_ result.
all the while, 'they' or whomsoever is/are all to willing
to take dish fed results sections about phenomena that
-they- have never experienced personally for granted
and -without- "personal experience" as "evidence"
so, they 'believe' one thing that they have never
=personally= experienced because they want to be
part of that group who follows such and such an ideology,
but make demands of another group for -evidence- that
-they- are simply unwilling to gather up -by- following
the proper and correct "procedures and methodologies"
and so, by personal preference
and personal preference alone,
they accept one ideological framework as correct
-without- personal experience -as- 'evidence'
and reject another ideological framework
simply because they won't -look- -for-
the evidences themselves, and rush precipitously
to the conclusion that there is no evidence to be seen,
based on group favorability and group favorability alone.
anyway, a semi-permeable membrane, in the natural,
is like a grating that allows some things to pass through
and yet, prevents other things from passing through,
like maybe sodium ions which are small can pass through
and potassium ions which are larger cannot,
so, an electircal gradient it set up and this
helps to regulate heart contrctions etc.
so, in likeness,
this is a gradient which certain phenomena
can pass ---> in a one way fashion
you may not be able to just waltz over through
the semi-permeable membrane and "see" God almighty,
but God almighty, not only can, but -must- come
'through the veil' to you.
and 'communion' is possible but then we have
to, also, deal with the 'signal to noise' problems...
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