A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of
the cinematographer on the film “Rust,” months after the original case against him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge
of involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in
the fatal shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film “Rust” more than two years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney’s initial case fell apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April.
But a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis,
decided to present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin
on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like
the one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
“We look forward to our day in court,” Mr. Baldwin’s lawyers, Luke Nikas
and Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin
fired the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is going to be a very high burden for the prosecution.
They're going to have to show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live bullets in the gun, but even more than
that, they're going to have to show that Baldwin ought to have known
that the gun was a real gun and not just a prop, i.e., incapable of
firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and
his brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts wouldn't even be talking about this.
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of
the cinematographer on the film “Rust,” months after the original case against him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge
of involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in
the fatal shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film “Rust” more than two years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney’s initial case fell apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April.
But a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis,
decided to present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin
on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like
the one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
“We look forward to our day in court,” Mr. Baldwin’s lawyers, Luke Nikas
and Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin
fired the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is going to be a very high burden for the prosecution.
They're going to have to show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live bullets in the gun, but even more than
that, they're going to have to show that Baldwin ought to have known
that the gun was a real gun and not just a prop, i.e., incapable of
firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and
his brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts wouldn't even be talking about this.
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of
the cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge
of involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in
the fatal shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust?
more than two years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis,
decided to present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin
on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like
the one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is going to be a very high burden for the prosecution.
They're going to have to show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live bullets in the gun, but even more than
that, they're going to have to show that Baldwin ought to have known
that the gun was a real gun and not just a prop, i.e., incapable of
firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and
his brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do
time. This is not about political partisanship, but about someone who
was careless when handling a firearm.
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the >> cinematographer on the film “Rust,” months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film “Rust” more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney’s initial case fell >> apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But >> a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the >> one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
“We look forward to our day in court,” Mr. Baldwin’s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to >> show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live >> bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show >> that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a >> prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts
(Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his >> brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
This is not about political partisanship,
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the >> cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against >> him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of >> involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two >> years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell >> apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to >> present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the >> one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live >> bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show >> that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts
(Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi heroes.
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the >>>> cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against >>>> him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of >>>> involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two >>>> years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary >>>> manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of >>>> fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell >>>> apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to >>>> present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday. >>>>
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the >>>> one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live >>>> bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show >>>> that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts
(Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts >>>> wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following".
It's all over the news.
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of >> >> involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two >> >> years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary >> >> manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of >> >> fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell >> >> apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to >> >> present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday. >> >>
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts
(Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary >>>> manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of >>>> fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell >>>> apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to >>>> present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday. >>>>
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts
(Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts >>>> wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political >> persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his >> politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of >>>>> involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two >>>>> years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary >>>>> manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of >>>>> fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell >>>>> apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to >>>>> present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday. >>>>>
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be >>>>> tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts
(Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts >>>>> wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political >>> persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his >>> politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi >>> heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
On 2024-01-20, Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of >>>>> involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two >>>>> years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary >>>>> manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of >>>>> fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell >>>>> apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to >>>>> present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday. >>>>>
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts
(Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts >>>>> wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political >>> persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his >>> politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Ultimately the buck stops with Alec because he is in charge of the set.
I wonder why live ammunition is even allowed on the set?
And if it's not, find the person who brought to the set.
In article <_HTqN.78750$CYpe.33846@fx40.iad>,
mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
On 1/20/2024 9:37 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary >>>>>> manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of >>>>>> fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell >>>>>> apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to >>>>>> present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday. >>>>>>
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts >>>>>> wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political >>>> persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his >>>> politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following".
Yeah, you are. You Nazi little people are following it assiduously.
It's all over the news.
It hasn't been in the news for months until just yesterday.
and it's all over the news.
Personally I don't give a damn.
In article <m_UqN.32818$9cLc.17104@fx02.iad>,
mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
On 1/20/2024 10:58 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
In article <_HTqN.78750$CYpe.33846@fx40.iad>,
mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
On 1/20/2024 9:37 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts >>>>>>>> wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his >>>>>> politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following".
Yeah, you are. You Nazi little people are following it assiduously.
It's all over the news.
It hasn't been in the news for months until just yesterday.
and it's all over the news.
*Now*, yes, but it wasn't. But that didn't stop Nazi little people like you from
blabbering about it here.
You never saw me discussing it before.
Personally I don't give a damn.
Like fuck you don't.
You're the one crying about it.
On 1/20/24 13:07, Lou Bricano wrote:
On 1/20/2024 10:58 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-20, Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting
death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case >>>>>>> against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a
charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him >>>>>>> in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more >>>>>>> than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first
involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest
reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial
case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in >>>>>>> April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis,
decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on
Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge >>>>>>> like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke >>>>>>> Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that
Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved
negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going >>>>>>> to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there >>>>>>> were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have >>>>>>> to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and >>>>>>> not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's
going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political
views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should >>>>>> do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only
because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known
political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about >>>>> his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of
your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Ultimately the buck stops with Alec because he is in charge of the set.
The actors are *not* in charge of the set, you stupid Nazi little
person. Where do you *get* that kind of shit, anyway?
Wasn't he the producer?
On 1/20/2024 10:58 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-20, Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting
death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case >>>>>> against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a
charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him
in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more
than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first
involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest
reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial
case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in
April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis,
decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on
Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge
like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke >>>>>> Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that
Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved
negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going
to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there
were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have >>>>>> to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and
not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's
going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political
views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should
do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only
because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known
political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about
his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of
your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Ultimately the buck stops with Alec because he is in charge of the set.
The actors are *not* in charge of the set, you stupid Nazi little
person. Where do you *get* that kind of shit, anyway?
I wonder why live ammunition is even allowed on the set?
It isn't. Whoever brought it onto the set ought to be on trial.
And if it's not, find the person who brought to the set.
Ya think?
Apparently, it's not unheard of for people working on movie sets that
feature real firearms to go out and do a little shooting, particularly
in westerns being shot in remote location. Someone needs to be
responsible for ensuring that any firearms brought onto the set do not contain live ammunition.
On 1/20/2024 10:16 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting
death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case >>>>>> against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a
charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him
in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more
than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first
involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest
reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial
case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in
April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis,
decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on
Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge
like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke >>>>>> Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that
Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved
negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going
to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there
were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have >>>>>> to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and
not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's
going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political
views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should
do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only
because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known
political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about
his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of
your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Good question. Whoever that person is also should be charged.
Is the actor expected to know that it's a real gun and not a (fake)
prop? I can tell you that's an angle Baldwin's lawyer will explore. The prosecution might try to show that Baldwin knew it was a real gun, or
perhaps should have known from prior experience. The fact that Usenet participants don't know the answer to that is why no one here should be running his mouth about this being an open-and-shut case.
On 2024-01-21, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
On 1/20/24 13:07, Lou Bricano wrote:
On 1/20/2024 10:58 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-20, Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote:The actors are *not* in charge of the set, you stupid Nazi little
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting
death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case >>>>>>>> against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a >>>>>>>> charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him >>>>>>>> in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more >>>>>>>> than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first
involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest
reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial >>>>>>>> case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in >>>>>>>> April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis,
decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on >>>>>>>> Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge >>>>>>>> like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke >>>>>>>> Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going >>>>>>>> to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there >>>>>>>> were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have >>>>>>>> to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and >>>>>>>> not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's
going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political
views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should >>>>>>> do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only
because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known
political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about >>>>>> his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of
your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Ultimately the buck stops with Alec because he is in charge of the set. >>>
person. Where do you *get* that kind of shit, anyway?
Wasn't he the producer?
Exactly.
On 1/20/24 13:07, Lou Bricano wrote:
On 1/20/2024 10:58 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-20, Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the >>>>>>> fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary >>>>>>> manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of >>>>>>> fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday. >>>>>>>
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin >>>>>>> fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved
negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be
tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts >>>>>>> wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you >>>>> loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political >>>>> persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his >>>>> politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi
heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Ultimately the buck stops with Alec because he is in charge of the set.
The actors are *not* in charge of the set, you stupid Nazi little person.
Where do you *get* that kind of shit, anyway?
Wasn't he the producer?
I wonder why live ammunition is even allowed on the set?
It isn't. Whoever brought it onto the set ought to be on trial.
And if it's not, find the person who brought to the set.
Ya think?
Apparently, it's not unheard of for people working on movie sets that feature
real firearms to go out and do a little shooting, particularly in westerns >> being shot in remote location. Someone needs to be responsible for ensuring >> that any firearms brought onto the set do not contain live ammunition.
On 1/21/24 08:58, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:Uf2dnaxM8pEtkDD4nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com:
On 1/20/24 21:49, Siri Cruise wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
One never takes someone else's word that a gun has no live rounds, one >>>>> always verifies, that is simple firearm safety.
I have no idea how to see a gun has no live rounds. If I were hired for >>>> that job, I would make sure the production knows my inexperience, and
that they have to handhold me.
Ignorance is no excuse. Learning to clear a firearm is a seconds long
process and every actor who handles a gun should be taught this process. >>>
Do you really think child actors are
going to do this? They handle the guns
the prop director gives them. As do all
actors on all sets.
Remind me to stay far away from you should you ever get a gun.
Because this thread is about Alec Baldwin's responsibility, there has
been nothing said about the culpability of the armorer. When this first
happened, there were several articles published detailing the practices
which should have been followed and were not. The on set armorer should
is culpable, and should be charged as well (if not already).
Of course the prop manager is "culpable",
as you put it. But that is a civil issue, not
a crime.
And you still haven't told us why this
ACCIDENTAL shooting is any different from
the one that killed Brandon Lee.
I know nothing about Brandon Lee.
On 1/20/2024 4:14 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-21, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
On 1/20/24 13:07, Lou Bricano wrote:
On 1/20/2024 10:58 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-20, Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote:The actors are *not* in charge of the set, you stupid Nazi little
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting >>>>>>>> death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case >>>>>>>> against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a >>>>>>>> charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him >>>>>>>> in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more >>>>>>>> than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first
involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest
reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial >>>>>>>> case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in >>>>>>>> April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, >>>>>>>> decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on >>>>>>>> Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge >>>>>>>> like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke >>>>>>>> Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going >>>>>>>> to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there >>>>>>>> were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have >>>>>>>> to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and >>>>>>>> not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's >>>>>>>> going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political >>>>>>>> views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should >>>>>>> do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only
because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known
political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about >>>>>> his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of >>>>>> your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Ultimately the buck stops with Alec because he is in charge of the set. >>>
person. Where do you *get* that kind of shit, anyway?
Wasn't he the producer?
Exactly.
The producer is a financial position, you stupid fuck. A producer is not the person in charge of a movie set.
On 1/21/2024 7:22 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/21/24 08:58, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:Uf2dnaxM8pEtkDD4nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com:
On 1/20/24 21:49, Siri Cruise wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
One never takes someone else's word that a gun has no live
rounds, one
always verifies, that is simple firearm safety.
I have no idea how to see a gun has no live rounds. If I were
hired for
that job, I would make sure the production knows my
inexperience, and
that they have to handhold me.
Ignorance is no excuse. Learning to clear a firearm is a
seconds long
process and every actor who handles a gun should be taught
this process.
Do you really think child actors are
going to do this? They handle the guns
the prop director gives them. As do all
actors on all sets.
Remind me to stay far away from you should you ever get a gun.
Because this thread is about Alec Baldwin's responsibility,
there has
been nothing said about the culpability of the armorer. When
this first
happened, there were several articles published detailing the
practices
which should have been followed and were not. The on set
armorer should
is culpable, and should be charged as well (if not already).
Of course the prop manager is "culpable",
as you put it. But that is a civil issue, not
a crime.
And you still haven't told us why this
ACCIDENTAL shooting is any different from
the one that killed Brandon Lee.
I know nothing about Brandon Lee.
Of course you don't. You're stupid. You admit to being stupid. You
are *willfully* stupid. You don't admit to the willfulness aspect,
but that doesn't matter, because we can plainly see it.
In article <%UbrN.50491$24ld.30884@fx07.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 4:14 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-21, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
On 1/20/24 13:07, Lou Bricano wrote:
On 1/20/2024 10:58 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-20, Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote:The actors are *not* in charge of the set, you stupid Nazi little
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting
death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case >> >>>>>>>> against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a
charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him
in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more
than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first
involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest
reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial
case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in >> >>>>>>>> April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis,
decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on
Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge >> >>>>>>>> like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke >> >>>>>>>> Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that
Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved
negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going >> >>>>>>>> to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there
were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have >> >>>>>>>> to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and
not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's
going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >> >>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political
views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should >> >>>>>>> do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >> >>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only
because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known
political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about >> >>>>>> his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of
your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >> >>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Ultimately the buck stops with Alec because he is in charge of the set. >> >>>
person. Where do you *get* that kind of shit, anyway?
Wasn't he the producer?
Exactly.
The producer is a financial position, you stupid fuck. A producer is not the >> person in charge of a movie set.
Alec should have checked the chamber first.
In article <%UbrN.50491$24ld.30884@fx07.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 4:14 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-21, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
On 1/20/24 13:07, Lou Bricano wrote:
On 1/20/2024 10:58 AM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-01-20, Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote:The actors are *not* in charge of the set, you stupid Nazi little
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting >>>>>>>>>> death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case >>>>>>>>>> against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a >>>>>>>>>> charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him >>>>>>>>>> in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more >>>>>>>>>> than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first >>>>>>>>>> involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest >>>>>>>>>> reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial >>>>>>>>>> case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in >>>>>>>>>> April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, >>>>>>>>>> decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on >>>>>>>>>> Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge >>>>>>>>>> like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison. >>>>>>>>>>
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke >>>>>>>>>> Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going >>>>>>>>>> to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there >>>>>>>>>> were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have >>>>>>>>>> to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and >>>>>>>>>> not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's >>>>>>>>>> going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political >>>>>>>>>> views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should >>>>>>>>> do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only
because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known >>>>>>>> political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about >>>>>>>> his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of >>>>>>>> your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Ultimately the buck stops with Alec because he is in charge of the set. >>>>>
person. Where do you *get* that kind of shit, anyway?
Wasn't he the producer?
Exactly.
The producer is a financial position, you stupid fuck. A producer is not the >> person in charge of a movie set.
Alec should have
On 1/21/2024 7:22 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/21/24 08:58, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:Uf2dnaxM8pEtkDD4nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com:
On 1/20/24 21:49, Siri Cruise wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
One never takes someone else's word that a gun has no live
rounds, one always verifies, that is simple firearm safety.
I have no idea how to see a gun has no live rounds. If I were
hired for that job, I would make sure the production knows my
inexperience, and that they have to handhold me.
Ignorance is no excuse. Learning to clear a firearm is a seconds
long process and every actor who handles a gun should be taught
this process.
Do you really think child actors are
going to do this? They handle the guns
the prop director gives them. As do all
actors on all sets.
Remind me to stay far away from you should you ever get a gun.
Because this thread is about Alec Baldwin's responsibility, there
has been nothing said about the culpability of the armorer. When
this first happened, there were several articles published
detailing the practices which should have been followed and were
not. The on set armorer should is culpable, and should be charged
as well (if not already).
Of course the prop manager is "culpable",
as you put it. But that is a civil issue, not
a crime.
And you still haven't told us why this
ACCIDENTAL shooting is any different from
the one that killed Brandon Lee.
I know nothing about Brandon Lee.
Of course you don't. You're stupid. You admit to being stupid. You are *willfully* stupid. You don't admit to the willfulness aspect, but
that doesn't matter, because we can plainly see it.
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of >>>>> the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case
against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge >>>>> of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in
the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than >>>>> two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first
involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal >>>>> of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case
fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in
April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided >>>>> to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on
Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like >>>>> the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke
Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that
Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved
negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to >>>>> have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were >>>>> live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to >>>>> show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not >>>>> just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to >>>>> be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts
(Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views,
and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts >>>>> wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do >>>> time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because
you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known
political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his >>> politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your
Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of >>>>> the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case >>>>> against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge >>>>> of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in >>>>> the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than >>>>> two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first
involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal >>>>> of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case >>>>> fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in
April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided >>>>> to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on
Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like >>>>> the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke >>>>> Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that
Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved
negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to >>>>> have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were >>>>> live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to >>>>> show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not >>>>> just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to >>>>> be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, >>>>> and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts >>>>> wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do >>>> time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because
you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known
political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his >>> politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your >>> Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore..... and cost someone their life.
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary >>>>>> manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of >>>>>> fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell >>>>>> apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to >>>>>> present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday. >>>>>>
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be
tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts >>>>>> wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you >>>> loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political >>>> persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his >>>> politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi
heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be
tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts >>>>>> wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you
loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his >>>> politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi
heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you know this, anyway?
In article <oywrN.295179$xHn7.167825@fx14.iad>, someone@some_where.now says...
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you know >> this, anyway?
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be
tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts >>>>>>>> wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you
loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his >>>>>> politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi
heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore >>
You always check the chamber first.
You never point a real gun at someone unless you are planning on shooting. Why not use fake guns?
On 1/22/2024 8:33 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <oywrN.295179$xHn7.167825@fx14.iad>, someone@some_where.now says...
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you know
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be
tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you
loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi
heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore >>
this, anyway?
You always check the chamber first.
Who says so? Did Baldwin receive any gun safety instruction?
You never point a real gun at someone unless you are planning on shooting. Why not use fake guns?
Was Baldwin told it was a real gun?
In article <WPwrN.229655$7sbb.171826@fx16.iad>,
mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
On 1/22/2024 8:33 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
In article <oywrN.295179$xHn7.167825@fx14.iad>, someone@some_where.now
says...
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you know
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison. >>>>>>>>>>
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be
tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you
loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi
heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore >>>>
this, anyway?
You always check the chamber first.
Who says so? Did Baldwin receive any gun safety instruction?
He should have.
You never point a real gun at someone unless you are planning on shooting. Why not use fake guns?
Was Baldwin told it was a real gun?
He didn't know?
In article <6axrN.372958$83n7.118138@fx18.iad>,
mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
On 1/22/2024 8:47 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
In article <WPwrN.229655$7sbb.171826@fx16.iad>,
mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
On 1/22/2024 8:33 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
In article <oywrN.295179$xHn7.167825@fx14.iad>, someone@some_where.now >>>>> says...
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison. >>>>>>>>>>>>
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be
tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you
loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi
heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>>>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you know
this, anyway?
You always check the chamber first.
Who says so? Did Baldwin receive any gun safety instruction?
He should have.
Did he? Whose responsibility is that?
Anyone holding a weapon.
You never point a real gun at someone unless you are planning on shooting. Why not use fake guns?
Was Baldwin told it was a real gun?
He didn't know?
Did he?
He should have.
I've handled guns plenty of times. We know *now* it was a real gun, and I am >> certain I would have known it was real even without being told. I would have >> checked. But you don't know that Baldwin knew it was real.
Then he shouldn't have been trusted with it.
You don't know anything that went on on the set. You don't know anything,
period. You don't know how to wipe your own ass ? the orderly has to do it when
he changes your bedpan.
You weren't there either and
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting
death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original
case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a
charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him >>>>>>> in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more >>>>>>> than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first
involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest
reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial
case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in >>>>>>> April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis,
decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on
Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge >>>>>>> like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers,
Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that
Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved
negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going >>>>>>> to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there >>>>>>> were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to
have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and >>>>>>> not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's
going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political
views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and
should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only
because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known
political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all
about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of
your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you
know this, anyway?
On 1/22/2024 8:33 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <oywrN.295179$xHn7.167825@fx14.iad>, someone@some_where.now
says...
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting >>>>>>>>> death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original >>>>>>>>> case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a >>>>>>>>> charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against >>>>>>>>> him in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust?
more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first
involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest
reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial >>>>>>>>> case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed >>>>>>>>> in April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, >>>>>>>>> decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on >>>>>>>>> Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a
charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, >>>>>>>>> Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're
going to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that
there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to >>>>>>>>> have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun >>>>>>>>> and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's >>>>>>>>> going to be
tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political >>>>>>>>> views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and
should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only
because you
loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known
political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all
about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of >>>>>>> your Nazi
heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to
ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think
you know
this, anyway?
You always check the chamber first.
Who says so? Did Baldwin receive any gun safety instruction?
You never point a real gun at someone unless you are planning on
shooting. Why not use fake guns?
Was Baldwin told it was a real gun?
On 1/22/24 10:16, Someone wrote:
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you know >> this, anyway?
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in the
fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in April.
But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke Nikas
and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that Baldwin
fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to >>>>>>>> have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to >>>>>>>> be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts >>>>>>>> wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you
loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his >>>>>> politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your >>>>>> Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore >>
There were several articles publish shortly after the shooting which described
the movie set firearm safety procedures. Read them.
On 1/22/24 10:36, Michael A Terrell wrote:
On 1/22/2024 8:33 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <oywrN.295179$xHn7.167825@fx14.iad>, someone@some_where.now
says...
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you know
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of
the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case >>>>>>>>>> against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in >>>>>>>>>> the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in >>>>>>>>>> April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like
the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison. >>>>>>>>>>
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke >>>>>>>>>> Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to >>>>>>>>>> have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were
live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to
show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not >>>>>>>>>> just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be
tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views, >>>>>>>>>> and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do
time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you
loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi
heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore >>>>
this, anyway?
You always check the chamber first.
Who says so? Did Baldwin receive any gun safety instruction?
He should have and as a producer, he is responsible for such training.
You never point a real gun at someone unless you are planning on shooting. >>> Why not use fake guns?
Was Baldwin told it was a real gun?
As an actor he should have known what he had in his hand
On 1/22/24 10:16, Someone wrote:
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says...
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting
death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original
case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a >>>>>>> charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him >>>>>>> in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more >>>>>>> than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first
involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest
reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial >>>>>>> case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in >>>>>>> April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis,
decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on >>>>>>> Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge >>>>>>> like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison.
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers,
Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going >>>>>>> to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there >>>>>>> were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to
have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and >>>>>>> not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's
going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political
views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and
should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only
because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known
political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all
about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of
your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you know this, anyway?
There were several articles publish shortly after the shooting which described the movie set firearm safety procedures. Read them.
On 1/22/2024 3:14 PM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/22/24 10:36, Michael A Terrell wrote:
On 1/22/2024 8:33 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <oywrN.295179$xHn7.167825@fx14.iad>, someone@some_where.now >>> says...
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting death of
the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original case >>>>>>>>>> against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him in
the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in >>>>>>>>>> April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge like
the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison. >>>>>>>>>>
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, Luke >>>>>>>>>> Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going to
have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there were
live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to have to
show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and not
just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's going to be
tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political views,
and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and should do
time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only because you
loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of your Nazi
heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you know
this, anyway?
You always check the chamber first.
Who says so? Did Baldwin receive any gun safety instruction?
He should have and as a producer, he is responsible for such training.
I already instructed you that a producer is a financial position. He doesn't manage the set.
You never point a real gun at someone unless you are planning on shooting.
Why not use fake guns?
Was Baldwin told it was a real gun?
As an actor he should have known what he had in his hand
Who says so? You have no clue what an actor should or shouldn't know.
Skeeter wrote:
In article <zlWdnTmuKvm6azP4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
junk@nogood.com says...
On 1/22/24 10:16, Someone wrote:
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting >>>>>>>>> death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original >>>>>>>>> case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a >>>>>>>>> charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him >>>>>>>>> in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more >>>>>>>>> than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first >>>>>>>>> involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest >>>>>>>>> reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial >>>>>>>>> case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in >>>>>>>>> April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, >>>>>>>>> decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on >>>>>>>>> Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge >>>>>>>>> like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison. >>>>>>>>>
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, >>>>>>>>> Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going >>>>>>>>> to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there >>>>>>>>> were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to >>>>>>>>> have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and >>>>>>>>> not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's >>>>>>>>> going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political >>>>>>>>> views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and >>>>>>>> should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only
because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known >>>>>>> political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all >>>>>>> about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of >>>>>>> your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you >>> know this, anyway?
There were several articles publish shortly after the shooting which
described the movie set firearm safety procedures. Read them.
Anyone knows to check the chamber.
everyone should carry a loaded maskafa when on a movie set
Skeeter wrote:
In article <zlWdnTmuKvm6azP4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
junk@nogood.com says...
On 1/22/24 10:16, Someone wrote:
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting >>>>>>>>>> death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original >>>>>>>>>> case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a >>>>>>>>>> charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him >>>>>>>>>> in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more >>>>>>>>>> than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first >>>>>>>>>> involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest >>>>>>>>>> reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial >>>>>>>>>> case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in >>>>>>>>>> April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, >>>>>>>>>> decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on >>>>>>>>>> Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge >>>>>>>>>> like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison. >>>>>>>>>>
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, >>>>>>>>>> Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going >>>>>>>>>> to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there >>>>>>>>>> were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to >>>>>>>>>> have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and >>>>>>>>>> not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's >>>>>>>>>> going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to
right-wingnuts
(Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political >>>>>>>>>> views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and >>>>>>>>> should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only
because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known >>>>>>>> political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all >>>>>>>> about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of >>>>>>>> your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have
checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to
ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you >>>> know this, anyway?
There were several articles publish shortly after the shooting which
described the movie set firearm safety procedures. Read them.
Anyone knows to check the chamber.everyone should carry a loaded maskafa when on a movie set
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Skeeter wrote:
In article <zlWdnTmuKvm6azP4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
junk@nogood.com says...
On 1/22/24 10:16, Someone wrote:
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting >>>>>>>>>>> death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original >>>>>>>>>>> case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a >>>>>>>>>>> charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him >>>>>>>>>>> in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more >>>>>>>>>>> than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first >>>>>>>>>>> involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest >>>>>>>>>>> reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial >>>>>>>>>>> case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was
dismissed in
April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, >>>>>>>>>>> decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on >>>>>>>>>>> Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a >>>>>>>>>>> charge
like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison. >>>>>>>>>>>
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, >>>>>>>>>>> Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're >>>>>>>>>>> going
to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there >>>>>>>>>>> were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to >>>>>>>>>>> have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and >>>>>>>>>>> not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's >>>>>>>>>>> going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to
right-wingnuts
(Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political >>>>>>>>>>> views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and
right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and >>>>>>>>>> should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal >>>>>>>>> time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only >>>>>>>>> because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known >>>>>>>>> political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all >>>>>>>>> about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of >>>>>>>>> your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have
checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to >>>>>> ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think
you
know this, anyway?
There were several articles publish shortly after the shooting which
described the movie set firearm safety procedures. Read them.
You expect Rudy to actually be interested in the facts, much less bother
to read such facts for himself?
That's funny.
However, I'm sure that anything reported will be claimed by Rudy to be a lie.. so let's take it up a notch and go to a neutral but relevant source.
https://www.actorsequity.org/resources/Producers/safe-and-sanitary/safety-tips-for-use-of-firearms/
Among the gem here we find these specifics.
"Treat all guns as if they are loaded and deadly."
Well that's a rule he ignored.
"Never point a firearm at anyone including yourself. Always cheat the
shot by aiming to the right or left of the target character. If asked to point and shoot directly at a living target, consult with the property
master or armorer for the prescribed safety procedures."
Another rule he violated.
"Check the firearm every time you take possession of it. Before each
use, make sure the gun has been test-fired off stage and then ask to
test fire it yourself. Watch the prop master check the cylinders and
barrel to be sure no foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged inside."
and yet another...
Alex had 3 chances that he personally had control of as an actor that
would have prevented this tragedy if he had followed any one of these rules
Further as executive producer.. he had the responsibility to insure all
these rules were followed.. and given there was reported to have been 2
prior discharges on set with live ammo.. he should have been making
major changes and personally making sure that he was following those
rules to the letter.
On 1/23/24 06:26, Scout wrote:
"%" <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Skeeter wrote:
In article <zlWdnTmuKvm6azP4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
junk@nogood.com says...
On 1/22/24 10:16, Someone wrote:
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting >>>>>>>>>>>> death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original >>>>>>>>>>>> case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a >>>>>>>>>>>> charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him >>>>>>>>>>>> in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more >>>>>>>>>>>> than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first >>>>>>>>>>>> involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest >>>>>>>>>>>> reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial >>>>>>>>>>>> case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in >>>>>>>>>>>> April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, >>>>>>>>>>>> decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on >>>>>>>>>>>> Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge >>>>>>>>>>>> like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison. >>>>>>>>>>>>
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going >>>>>>>>>>>> to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there >>>>>>>>>>>> were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to >>>>>>>>>>>> have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and >>>>>>>>>>>> not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's >>>>>>>>>>>> going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political >>>>>>>>>>>> views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and >>>>>>>>>>>> right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and >>>>>>>>>>> should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only >>>>>>>>>> because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known >>>>>>>>>> political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all >>>>>>>>>> about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of >>>>>>>>>> your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>>>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you >>>>>> know this, anyway?
There were several articles publish shortly after the shooting which >>>>> described the movie set firearm safety procedures. Read them.
You expect Rudy to actually be interested in the facts, much less bother to >> read such facts for himself?
That's funny.
However, I'm sure that anything reported will be claimed by Rudy to be a lie..
so let's take it up a notch and go to a neutral but relevant source.
https://www.actorsequity.org/resources/Producers/safe-and-sanitary/safety-tips-for-use-of-firearms/
Among the gem here we find these specifics.
"Treat all guns as if they are loaded and deadly."
Well that's a rule he ignored.
"Never point a firearm at anyone including yourself. Always cheat the shot by
aiming to the right or left of the target character. If asked to point and >> shoot directly at a living target, consult with the property master or armorer
for the prescribed safety procedures."
Another rule he violated.
"Check the firearm every time you take possession of it. Before each use, make
sure the gun has been test-fired off stage and then ask to test fire it
yourself. Watch the prop master check the cylinders and barrel to be sure no >> foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged inside."
and yet another...
Alex had 3 chances that he personally had control of as an actor that would >> have prevented this tragedy if he had followed any one of these rules
Further as executive producer.. he had the responsibility to insure all these
rules were followed.. and given there was reported to have been 2 prior
discharges on set with live ammo.. he should have been making major changes >> and personally making sure that he was following those rules to the letter.
What are the chances that Rudy will admit his mistake?
On 1/23/2024 6:01 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/23/24 06:26, Scout wrote:
"%" <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Skeeter wrote:
In article <zlWdnTmuKvm6azP4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
junk@nogood.com says...
On 1/22/24 10:16, Someone wrote:
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting >>>>>>>>>>>>> death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original >>>>>>>>>>>>> case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday >>>>>>>>>>>>> on a
charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case >>>>>>>>>>>>> against him
in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? >>>>>>>>>>>>> more
than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first >>>>>>>>>>>>> involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest >>>>>>>>>>>>> reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial >>>>>>>>>>>>> case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was >>>>>>>>>>>>> dismissed in
April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, >>>>>>>>>>>>> decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin on
Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a >>>>>>>>>>>>> charge
like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt >>>>>>>>>>>>> that
Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're >>>>>>>>>>>>> going
to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that >>>>>>>>>>>>> there
were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to >>>>>>>>>>>>> have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real >>>>>>>>>>>>> gun and
not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's >>>>>>>>>>>>> going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to
right-wingnuts
(Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political >>>>>>>>>>>>> views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and >>>>>>>>>>>> should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal >>>>>>>>>>> time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only >>>>>>>>>>> because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known >>>>>>>>>>> political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all >>>>>>>>>>> about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful
skewering of
your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have >>>>>>>>>> checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose >>>>>>>> to ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you
think you
know this, anyway?
There were several articles publish shortly after the shooting which >>>>>> described the movie set firearm safety procedures. Read them.
You expect Rudy to actually be interested in the facts, much less
bother to read such facts for himself?
That's funny.
However, I'm sure that anything reported will be claimed by Rudy to
be a lie.. so let's take it up a notch and go to a neutral but
relevant source.
https://www.actorsequity.org/resources/Producers/safe-and-sanitary/safety-tips-for-use-of-firearms/
Among the gem here we find these specifics.
"Treat all guns as if they are loaded and deadly."
Well that's a rule he ignored.
"Never point a firearm at anyone including yourself. Always cheat the
shot by aiming to the right or left of the target character. If asked
to point and shoot directly at a living target, consult with the
property master or armorer for the prescribed safety procedures."
Another rule he violated.
"Check the firearm every time you take possession of it. Before each
use, make sure the gun has been test-fired off stage and then ask to
test fire it yourself. Watch the prop master check the cylinders and
barrel to be sure no foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged
inside."
and yet another...
Alex had 3 chances that he personally had control of as an actor that
would have prevented this tragedy if he had followed any one of these
rules
Further as executive producer.. he had the responsibility to insure
all these rules were followed.. and given there was reported to have
been 2 prior discharges on set with live ammo.. he should have been
making major changes and personally making sure that he was following
those rules to the letter.
What are the chances that Rudy will admit his mistake?
I didn't make any mistake on this.
On 1/23/24 10:57, Someone wrote:
On 1/23/2024 6:01 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/23/24 06:26, Scout wrote:
"%" <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Skeeter wrote:
In article <zlWdnTmuKvm6azP4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
junk@nogood.com says...
On 1/22/24 10:16, Someone wrote:
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original >>>>>>>>>>>>>> case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first >>>>>>>>>>>>>> involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial >>>>>>>>>>>>>> case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in
April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge
like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going
to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts
(Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political >>>>>>>>>>>>>> views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and >>>>>>>>>>>>> should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only >>>>>>>>>>>> because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known >>>>>>>>>>>> political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all >>>>>>>>>>>> about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of >>>>>>>>>>>> your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you
know this, anyway?
There were several articles publish shortly after the shooting which >>>>>>> described the movie set firearm safety procedures. Read them.
You expect Rudy to actually be interested in the facts, much less bother to
read such facts for himself?
That's funny.
However, I'm sure that anything reported will be claimed by Rudy to be a >>>> lie.. so let's take it up a notch and go to a neutral but relevant source. >>>>
https://www.actorsequity.org/resources/Producers/safe-and-sanitary/safety-tips-for-use-of-firearms/
Among the gem here we find these specifics.
"Treat all guns as if they are loaded and deadly."
Well that's a rule he ignored.
"Never point a firearm at anyone including yourself. Always cheat the shot >>>> by aiming to the right or left of the target character. If asked to point >>>> and shoot directly at a living target, consult with the property master or >>>> armorer for the prescribed safety procedures."
Another rule he violated.
"Check the firearm every time you take possession of it. Before each use, >>>> make sure the gun has been test-fired off stage and then ask to test fire it
yourself. Watch the prop master check the cylinders and barrel to be sure no
foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged inside."
and yet another...
Alex had 3 chances that he personally had control of as an actor that would
have prevented this tragedy if he had followed any one of these rules
Further as executive producer.. he had the responsibility to insure all >>>> these rules were followed.. and given there was reported to have been 2 >>>> prior discharges on set with live ammo.. he should have been making major >>>> changes and personally making sure that he was following those rules to the
letter.
What are the chances that Rudy will admit his mistake?
I didn't make any mistake on this.
Obviously you did.
On 1/23/24 06:26, Scout wrote:
"%" <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5dqdnWzg_Y-EmTL4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Skeeter wrote:
In article <zlWdnTmuKvm6azP4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
junk@nogood.com says...
On 1/22/24 10:16, Someone wrote:
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting >>>>>>>>>>>> death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original >>>>>>>>>>>> case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a >>>>>>>>>>>> charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him >>>>>>>>>>>> in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more >>>>>>>>>>>> than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off.
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first >>>>>>>>>>>> involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest >>>>>>>>>>>> reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial >>>>>>>>>>>> case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in >>>>>>>>>>>> April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, >>>>>>>>>>>> decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on >>>>>>>>>>>> Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge >>>>>>>>>>>> like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison. >>>>>>>>>>>>
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going >>>>>>>>>>>> to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there >>>>>>>>>>>> were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to >>>>>>>>>>>> have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and >>>>>>>>>>>> not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's >>>>>>>>>>>> going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts >>>>>>>>>>>> (Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political >>>>>>>>>>>> views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and >>>>>>>>>>>> right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and >>>>>>>>>>> should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time. >>>>>>>>>>
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only >>>>>>>>>> because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known >>>>>>>>>> political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all >>>>>>>>>> about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of >>>>>>>>>> your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked >>>>>>>>> the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you >>>>>> know this, anyway?
There were several articles publish shortly after the shooting which >>>>> described the movie set firearm safety procedures. Read them.
You expect Rudy to actually be interested in the facts, much less bother to >> read such facts for himself?
That's funny.
However, I'm sure that anything reported will be claimed by Rudy to be a lie..
so let's take it up a notch and go to a neutral but relevant source.
https://www.actorsequity.org/resources/Producers/safe-and-sanitary/safety-tips-for-use-of-firearms/
Among the gem here we find these specifics.
"Treat all guns as if they are loaded and deadly."
Well that's a rule he ignored.
"Never point a firearm at anyone including yourself. Always cheat the shot by
aiming to the right or left of the target character. If asked to point and >> shoot directly at a living target, consult with the property master or armorer
for the prescribed safety procedures."
Another rule he violated.
"Check the firearm every time you take possession of it. Before each use, make
sure the gun has been test-fired off stage and then ask to test fire it
yourself. Watch the prop master check the cylinders and barrel to be sure no >> foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged inside."
and yet another...
Alex had 3 chances that he personally had control of as an actor that would >> have prevented this tragedy if he had followed any one of these rules
Further as executive producer..
What are the chances that Rudy will admit his mistake?
On 1/23/2024 6:01 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/23/24 06:26, Scout wrote:
"%" <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5dqdnWzg_Y-EmTL4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Skeeter wrote:
In article <zlWdnTmuKvm6azP4nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
junk@nogood.com says...
On 1/22/24 10:16, Someone wrote:
On 1/22/2024 4:21 AM, scooter lied:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoh2lm$3pavv$2@dont-email.me...
On 1/20/2024 11:37 AM, Skeeter wrote:
In article <0eTqN.116695$q3F7.77627@fx45.iad>, lb@cap.con says... >>>>>>>>>>
On 1/20/2024 3:00 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 1/19/24 23:14, Lou Bricano wrote:
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted the actor in the shooting >>>>>>>>>>>> death of the
cinematographer on the film ?Rust,? months after the original >>>>>>>>>>>> case against
him was dismissed.
By Julia Jacobs
Jan. 19, 2024
A grand jury in New Mexico indicted Alec Baldwin on Friday on a >>>>>>>>>>>> charge of
involuntary manslaughter, reviving the criminal case against him >>>>>>>>>>>> in the fatal
shooting of a cinematographer on the set of the film ?Rust? more >>>>>>>>>>>> than two
years ago when a gun he was rehearsing with went off. >>>>>>>>>>>>
The indictment, which came exactly one year after the first >>>>>>>>>>>> involuntary
manslaughter case against him was announced, was the latest >>>>>>>>>>>> reversal of
fortune for Mr. Baldwin. The local district attorney?s initial >>>>>>>>>>>> case fell
apart and the initial charge against Mr. Baldwin was dismissed in
April. But
a new prosecution team, Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis, >>>>>>>>>>>> decided to
present the case to a grand jury, which indicted Mr. Baldwin on >>>>>>>>>>>> Friday.
In New Mexico, an involuntary manslaughter conviction on a charge
like the
one Mr. Baldwin faces can carry up to 18 months in prison. >>>>>>>>>>>>
?We look forward to our day in court,? Mr. Baldwin?s lawyers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Luke Nikas and
Alex Spiro, said in a statement on Friday.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/arts/alec-baldwin-charged-involuntary-manslaughter.html
I don't have strong feelings about this. There is no doubt that >>>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin fired
the gun that killed the woman. I think showing that he behaved >>>>>>>>>>>> negligently is
going to be a very high burden for the prosecution. They're going
to have to
show that Baldwin ought to have had reason to believe that there >>>>>>>>>>>> were live
bullets in the gun, but even more than that, they're going to >>>>>>>>>>>> have to show
that Baldwin ought to have known that the gun was a real gun and >>>>>>>>>>>> not just a
prop, i.e., incapable of firing a live bullet. I think that's >>>>>>>>>>>> going to be tough.
This topic only gets much traction in Usenet due to right-wingnuts
(Trumpswabs) harboring hatred for Baldwin over his political >>>>>>>>>>>> views, and his
brilliant mockery of Trump on SNL. Take those away, and >>>>>>>>>>>> right-wingnuts
wouldn't even be talking about this.
There is no doubt that Baldwin is guilty of manslaughter and >>>>>>>>>>> should do time.
There very much is doubt, and I expect he'll do no or minimal time.
This is not about political partisanship,
Yes, it is. You Nazis say he's guilty and should do time only >>>>>>>>>> because you loathe
his politics. If he weren't famous or if he wasn't a well-known >>>>>>>>>> political
persona, you wouldn't be following this story at all. It's all >>>>>>>>>> about his
politics, and his hilarious and extremely successful skewering of >>>>>>>>>> your Nazi heroes.
No one is "following". It's all over the news. He should have checked
the chamber first. It's common gun knowledge.
Who put the bullets in the gun?
Which is why we have the safety rules that Alex willfully chose to ignore
What published safety rule did he ignore, scooter? How do you think you
know this, anyway?
There were several articles publish shortly after the shooting which >>>>> described the movie set firearm safety procedures. Read them.
You expect Rudy to actually be interested in the facts, much less bother to
read such facts for himself?
That's funny.
However, I'm sure that anything reported will be claimed by Rudy to be a lie..
so let's take it up a notch and go to a neutral but relevant source.
https://www.actorsequity.org/resources/Producers/safe-and-sanitary/safety-tips-for-use-of-firearms/
Among the gem here we find these specifics.
"Treat all guns as if they are loaded and deadly."
Well that's a rule he ignored.
"Never point a firearm at anyone including yourself. Always cheat the shot by
aiming to the right or left of the target character. If asked to point and >> shoot directly at a living target, consult with the property master or armorer
for the prescribed safety procedures."
Another rule he violated.
"Check the firearm every time you take possession of it. Before each use, make
sure the gun has been test-fired off stage and then ask to test fire it
yourself. Watch the prop master check the cylinders and barrel to be sure no
foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged inside."
and yet another...
Alex had 3 chances that he personally had control of as an actor that would
have prevented this tragedy if he had followed any one of these rules
Further as executive producer..
Baldwin is not, of course, the executive producer. scooter made that shit up.
What are the chances that Rudy will admit his mistake?
I didn't make any mistake. Baldwin is not the executive producer. He is one of
several producers ? not executive producer. I already instructed you, you fuckwit, that a producer is only a financial backer ? no executive authority.
You *work* at being a stupid fuckwit, and by golly, you succeed.
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