• Re: Trump inciting the Jan 6 insurrection riot

    From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Thu Jan 4 09:15:31 2024
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    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote in message news:yHylN.95286$yEgf.91095@fx09.iad...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    Rudy tries to run away from this

    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him..
    even though he's never been convicted in a court of law for insurrection, rebellion given aid or comfort to those that have?

    Rudy now asserts we are not a nation of laws..... but mob rule.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 4 09:17:03 2024
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    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:17a72933f6721e23$2402$2880686$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    Rudy tries to run away from this

    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him..
    even though he's never been convicted in a court of law for insurrection, rebellion given aid or comfort to those that have?

    Rudy now asserts we are not a nation of laws..... but mob rule.

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 4 08:14:09 2024
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    On 1/4/2024 6:15 AM, scooter lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote in message news:yHylN.95286$yEgf.91095@fx09.iad...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    Rudy tries to run away from this

    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him..
    even though he's never been convicted in a court of law for insurrection, rebellion given aid or comfort to those that have?

    Why do you post exactly the same bullshit twice in the same minute, scooter?

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 4 08:13:24 2024
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    On 1/4/2024 6:15 AM, scooter lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote in message news:YCylN.18268$IfLe.5530@fx36.iad...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    That's exactly what Trump said.


    Rudy tries to run away from this

    No, scooter.


    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him

    No, and that's not what's going on with Trump, scooter. Efforts to disqualify Trump are being made pursuant to the Constitution, scooter. And no, scooter, disqualification under 14.3 does not require any criminal conviction for anything.

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 4 08:16:18 2024
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    On 1/4/2024 6:17 AM, scooter lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:17a72933f6721e23$2402$2880686$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    Rudy tries to run away from this

    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him..
    even though he's never been convicted in a court of law for insurrection, rebellion given aid or comfort to those that have?

    That's the third time you posted this idiotic straw man response, scooter. You shouldn't drink this early in the morning, scooter.

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Thu Jan 4 11:49:41 2024
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    On 1/4/2024 11:16 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 1/4/2024 6:17 AM, scooter lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> wrote
    in message
    news:17a72933f6721e23$2402$2880686$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    Rudy tries to run away from this

    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him..
    even though he's never been convicted in a court of law for insurrection,
    rebellion given aid or comfort to those that have?

    That's the third time you posted this

    Because you are too stupid to have gotten it the first two times, Ball.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Scout on Thu Jan 4 09:00:15 2024
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    On 1/4/2024 6:17 AM, Scout wrote:


    Rudy tries to run away from this

    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him..
    even though he's never been convicted in a court of law for insurrection, rebellion given aid or comfort to those that have?

    Rudy argues conviction is not necessary. But, he argues any
    determination of disqualification under 14.3 is subject to the normal
    appeal process which would not permit "because we don't like him." Additionally, Colorado held a trial.

    Rudy may in the end be wrong (SCOTUS will tell us). But, his argument is rational.

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  • From Max Boot@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Thu Jan 4 09:10:07 2024
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    On 1/4/2024 9:00 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 1/4/2024 6:17 AM, scooter lied:


    Rudy tries to run away from this

    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him..
    even though he's never been convicted in a court of law for insurrection,
    rebellion given aid or comfort to those that have?

    Rudy argues conviction is not necessary. But, he argues any determination of disqualification under 14.3 is subject to the normal appeal process which would
    not permit "because we don't like him." Additionally, Colorado held a trial.

    Rudy may in the end be wrong (SCOTUS will tell us). But, his argument is rational.

    It's entirely a waste of time to try to argue the law and the Constitution with scooter, who believes the fifth amendment imposes limits on gun rights (it doesn't), and also that the fifth and sixth amendments together somehow require that a conviction is necessary to invoke 14.3 (they don't). scooter doesn't know
    a fucking thing either about the law or the Constitution.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Thu Jan 4 13:59:13 2024
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    "David Hartung" <junk@LCMS_shitbags.org> wrote in message news:lPAlN.50213$t8cc.24793@fx06.iad...
    On 1/4/2024 6:15 AM, scooter lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote >> in message news:yHylN.95286$yEgf.91095@fx09.iad...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    Rudy tries to run away from this

    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him..
    even though he's never been convicted in a court of law for insurrection,
    rebellion given aid or comfort to those that have?

    Why do you post exactly the same bullshit twice in the same minute,
    scooter?

    You're stupid and slow.. and takes telling you multiple times for there to
    be any hope you might have whatever dim insignificant understanding you are capable of in rare cases.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Thu Jan 4 14:01:15 2024
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    "David Hartung" <junk@LCMS_shitbags.org> wrote in message news:EOAlN.50212$t8cc.36594@fx06.iad...
    On 1/4/2024 6:15 AM, scooter lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote >> in message news:YCylN.18268$IfLe.5530@fx36.iad...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    That's exactly what Trump said.


    Rudy tries to run away from this

    No, scooter.


    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him

    No, and that's not what's going on with Trump, scooter. Efforts to
    disqualify Trump are being made pursuant to the Constitution, scooter.

    No they aren't as I documented quite well and which you dismissed out of
    hand. \


    And no, scooter, disqualification under 14.3 does not require any criminal >conviction for anything.

    So according to you the 5th Amendment no longer applies then?

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 4 11:39:48 2024
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    On 1/4/2024 10:59 AM, scooter lied:


    "David Hartung" <junk@LCMS_shitbags.org> wrote in message news:lPAlN.50213$t8cc.24793@fx06.iad...
    On 1/4/2024 6:15 AM, scooter lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote in
    message news:yHylN.95286$yEgf.91095@fx09.iad...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    Rudy tries to run away from this

    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him.. >>> even though he's never been convicted in a court of law for insurrection, >>> rebellion given aid or comfort to those that have?

    Why do you post exactly the same bullshit twice in the same minute, scooter?

    You're

    I am your intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior, scooter, you fucking HIV+ weasel.

    You posted exactly the same thing three times. You're stupid, scooter.

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 4 11:40:51 2024
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    On 1/4/2024 10:59 AM, scooter lied:


    "David Hartung" <junk@LCMS_shitbags.org> wrote in message news:mRAlN.50215$t8cc.31567@fx06.iad...
    On 1/4/2024 6:17 AM, scooter lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> wrote in >>> message news:17a72933f6721e23$2402$2880686$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    Rudy tries to run away from this

    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him.. >>> even though he's never been convicted in a court of law for insurrection, >>> rebellion given aid or comfort to those that have?

    That's the third time you posted this idiotic straw man response, scooter. You
    shouldn't drink this early in the morning, scooter.

    So do you understand

    I understand it's a big steaming load of bullshit, scooter, that should not have
    been posted even once.

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 4 11:43:31 2024
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    On 1/4/2024 11:01 AM, scooter lied:


    "David Hartung" <junk@LCMS_shitbags.org> wrote in message news:EOAlN.50212$t8cc.36594@fx06.iad...
    On 1/4/2024 6:15 AM, scooter lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote in
    message news:YCylN.18268$IfLe.5530@fx36.iad...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    That's exactly what Trump said.


    Rudy tries to run away from this

    No, scooter.


    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him

    No, and that's not what's going on with Trump, scooter. Efforts to disqualify
    Trump are being made pursuant to the Constitution, scooter.

    No they aren't

    Yes, scooter, they are. Efforts to disqualify Trump are being made *only* in pursuance of section 3 of the 14th amendment, scooter — not on the basis that we
    "dislike" Trump, although all right-thinking Americans hate his guts and would like to see him dead.


    And no, scooter, disqualification under 14.3 does not require any criminal >> conviction for anything.

    So according to you the 5th Amendment no longer applies then?

    It doesn't apply here, scooter. The fifth amendment in no way says or implies that a criminal conviction is required in order to achieve disqualification pursuant to 14.3. That's just a fact, scooter.

    You have no clue what the fifth amendment means, scooter.

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Rudy on Thu Jan 4 14:56:42 2024
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    On 1/4/24 10:13, Rudy wrote:
    On 1/4/2024 6:15 AM, scooter lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
    wrote in message news:YCylN.18268$IfLe.5530@fx36.iad...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    That's exactly what Trump said.


    Rudy tries to run away from this

    No, scooter.


    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him

    No, and that's not what's going on with Trump, scooter.

    Yes it is.

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Thu Jan 4 13:32:49 2024
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    On 1/4/2024 12:56 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 1/4/24 10:13, Rudy wrote:
    On 1/4/2024 6:15 AM, scooter lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote in
    message news:YCylN.18268$IfLe.5530@fx36.iad...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    That's exactly what Trump said.


    Rudy tries to run away from this

    No, scooter.


    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him

    No, and that's not what's going on with Trump, scooter.

    Yes it is.

    No, it isn't. Although all right-thinking Americans despise Trump, that is not what is driving the effort to disqualify him. The effort to disqualify Trump is based entirely on the Constitution. There was an insurrection — you know this —
    and Trump organized, financed, incited, directed and engaged in it.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Fri Jan 5 12:49:14 2024
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    "David Hartung" <junk@LCMS_shitbags.org> wrote in message news:DTDlN.130552$xHn7.4037@fx14.iad...
    On 1/4/2024 11:01 AM, scooter lied:


    "David Hartung" <junk@LCMS_shitbags.org> wrote in message
    news:EOAlN.50212$t8cc.36594@fx06.iad...
    On 1/4/2024 6:15 AM, scooter lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
    wrote in message news:YCylN.18268$IfLe.5530@fx36.iad...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    That's exactly what Trump said.


    Rudy tries to run away from this

    No, scooter.


    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him

    No, and that's not what's going on with Trump, scooter. Efforts to
    disqualify Trump are being made pursuant to the Constitution, scooter.

    No they aren't

    Yes, scooter, they are. Efforts to disqualify Trump are being made *only*
    in pursuance of section 3 of the 14th amendment, scooter

    So the 5th and 6th Amendment are just eliminated from the Constitution?

    Along with federal law... but after the Constitution who cares about
    something petty like the law.

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 5 10:16:27 2024
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    On 1/5/2024 9:49 AM, scooter lied:


    "David Hartung" <junk@LCMS_shitbags.org> wrote in message news:DTDlN.130552$xHn7.4037@fx14.iad...
    On 1/4/2024 11:01 AM, scooter lied:


    "David Hartung" <junk@LCMS_shitbags.org> wrote in message
    news:EOAlN.50212$t8cc.36594@fx06.iad...
    On 1/4/2024 6:15 AM, scooter lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote
    in message news:YCylN.18268$IfLe.5530@fx36.iad...

    Trump: I'll accept election results 'if I win'

    That's exactly what Trump said.


    Rudy tries to run away from this

    No, scooter.


    So we can just claim someone is disqualified because we don't like him >>>>
    No, and that's not what's going on with Trump, scooter. Efforts to
    disqualify Trump are being made pursuant to the Constitution, scooter.

    No they aren't

    Yes, scooter, they are. Efforts to disqualify Trump are being made *only* in >> pursuance of section 3 of the 14th amendment, scooter

    So the 5th and 6th Amendment are just eliminated from the Constitution?

    They don't apply to 14.3 disqualification, scooter. I've instructed you on that point already. The fifth and sixth amendments don't mean what you stupidly and ignorantly claim they mean, scooter.

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