• Re: Colorado Tries To Put Trump Off The Ballot

    From 53h.1948@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Wed Dec 20 10:13:37 2023
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    On 12/20/2023 10:02 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 12/20/23 09:49, 53h.1948 wrote:
    On 12/19/2023 10:42 PM, 56g.1173 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12883351/Colorado-Supreme-Court-rules-Trump-DISQUALIFIED-president.html

    Colorado Supreme Court rules Trump is DISQUALIFIED from
    running for president and removed from the state ballot
    under the 14th Amendment for 'engaging in an insurrection'

    . . .

       THIS is how bad Colorado has become

    No, this is how *great* Colorado has become.



       Sorry, Trump has not been convicted of "insurrection"

    No need for that based on the plain text of section 3 of the 14th amendment.

    That text does not deny one of due process.

    No, it doesn't. And the finding in Colorado that Trump engaged in insurrection did *not* deny him due process.

    Trump is not legally guilty of insurrection until he has been tried and convicted.

    You're a fucking idiot. A criminal conviction is not required.

    Trump received due process in the *civil* trial in Colorado.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to 58h.1349@ztq7.net on Wed Dec 20 14:25:19 2023
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    "53h.1948" <58h.1349@ztq7.net> wrote in message news:l9GgN.57471$Ama9.51297@fx12.iad...
    On 12/20/2023 10:02 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 12/20/23 09:49, 53h.1948 wrote:
    On 12/19/2023 10:42 PM, 56g.1173 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12883351/Colorado-Supreme-Court-rules-Trump-DISQUALIFIED-president.html

    Colorado Supreme Court rules Trump is DISQUALIFIED from
    running for president and removed from the state ballot
    under the 14th Amendment for 'engaging in an insurrection'

    . . .

    THIS is how bad Colorado has become

    No, this is how *great* Colorado has become.



    Sorry, Trump has not been convicted of "insurrection"

    No need for that based on the plain text of section 3 of the 14th
    amendment.

    That text does not deny one of due process.

    No, it doesn't. And the finding in Colorado that Trump engaged in insurrection did *not* deny him due process.

    Sure it does. It presupposes something that hasn't been proven.



    Trump is not legally guilty of insurrection until he has been tried and
    convicted.

    You're a fucking idiot. A criminal conviction is not required.

    So much for the presumption of innocence.. now you're guilty until proven innocent.



    Trump received due process in the *civil* trial in Colorado.

    Civil trial does not establish the facts necessary to deny him his right to
    run for office.

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  • From 53h.1948@21:1/5 to Scout on Wed Dec 20 11:32:48 2023
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    On 12/20/2023 11:25 AM, Scout wrote:


    "53h.1948" <58h.1349@ztq7.net> wrote in message news:l9GgN.57471$Ama9.51297@fx12.iad...
    On 12/20/2023 10:02 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 12/20/23 09:49, 53h.1948 wrote:
    On 12/19/2023 10:42 PM, 56g.1173 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12883351/Colorado-Supreme-Court-rules-Trump-DISQUALIFIED-president.html

    Colorado Supreme Court rules Trump is DISQUALIFIED from
    running for president and removed from the state ballot
    under the 14th Amendment for 'engaging in an insurrection'

    . . .

       THIS is how bad Colorado has become

    No, this is how *great* Colorado has become.



       Sorry, Trump has not been convicted of "insurrection"

    No need for that based on the plain text of section 3 of the 14th amendment.

    That text does not deny one of due process.

    No, it doesn't. And the finding in Colorado that Trump engaged in insurrection
    did *not* deny him due process.

    Sure it does.

    No, it doesn't.

    It presupposes something that hasn't been proven.

    The judge made a finding she was entitled to make under state law.




    Trump is not legally guilty of insurrection until he has been tried and
    convicted.

    You're a fucking idiot. A criminal conviction is not required.

    So much for the presumption of innocence.

    "Innocence" has no bearing on a civil proceeding.




    Trump received due process in the *civil* trial in Colorado.

    Civil trial does not establish the facts necessary to deny him his right to run
    for office.

    He doesn't have a "right" to run for office. He has to be eligible for the office, and the judge found that he is not. He received due process in that civil trial.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 20 14:27:31 2023
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    In article <l9GgN.57471$Ama9.51297@fx12.iad>, 58h.1349@ztq7.net says...

    On 12/20/2023 10:02 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 12/20/23 09:49, 53h.1948 wrote:
    On 12/19/2023 10:42 PM, 56g.1173 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12883351/Colorado-Supreme-Court-rules-Trump-DISQUALIFIED-president.html

    Colorado Supreme Court rules Trump is DISQUALIFIED from
    running for president and removed from the state ballot
    under the 14th Amendment for 'engaging in an insurrection'

    . . .

       THIS is how bad Colorado has become

    No, this is how *great* Colorado has become.



       Sorry, Trump has not been convicted of "insurrection"

    No need for that based on the plain text of section 3 of the 14th amendment.

    That text does not deny one of due process.

    No, it doesn't. And the finding in Colorado that Trump engaged in insurrection
    did *not* deny him due process.

    Trump is not legally guilty of insurrection until he has been tried and convicted.

    You're a fucking idiot. A criminal conviction is not required.

    Trump received due process in the *civil* trial in Colorado.

    It will never make it past the supreme court.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 20 15:00:55 2023
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    In article <AjHgN.92864$83n7.36261@fx18.iad>, 58h.1349@ztq7.net says...

    On 12/20/2023 11:25 AM, Scout wrote:


    "53h.1948" <58h.1349@ztq7.net> wrote in message news:l9GgN.57471$Ama9.51297@fx12.iad...
    On 12/20/2023 10:02 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 12/20/23 09:49, 53h.1948 wrote:
    On 12/19/2023 10:42 PM, 56g.1173 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12883351/Colorado-Supreme-Court-rules-Trump-DISQUALIFIED-president.html

    Colorado Supreme Court rules Trump is DISQUALIFIED from
    running for president and removed from the state ballot
    under the 14th Amendment for 'engaging in an insurrection'

    . . .

       THIS is how bad Colorado has become

    No, this is how *great* Colorado has become.



       Sorry, Trump has not been convicted of "insurrection"

    No need for that based on the plain text of section 3 of the 14th amendment.

    That text does not deny one of due process.

    No, it doesn't. And the finding in Colorado that Trump engaged in insurrection
    did *not* deny him due process.

    Sure it does.

    No, it doesn't.

    It presupposes something that hasn't been proven.

    The judge made a finding she was entitled to make under state law.

    Which will fail under national law.




    Trump is not legally guilty of insurrection until he has been tried and >>> convicted.

    You're a fucking idiot. A criminal conviction is not required.

    So much for the presumption of innocence.

    "Innocence" has no bearing on a civil proceeding.

    Nor any other hearing run by liberals.




    Trump received due process in the *civil* trial in Colorado.

    Civil trial does not establish the facts necessary to deny him his right to run
    for office.

    He doesn't have a "right" to run for office. He has to be eligible for the office, and the judge found that he is not. He received due process in that civil trial.


    It will never make it thru the supreme court. They don't believe in
    guilty until proven innocent.

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