• The White House to the left: We told you so on crime

    From Leroy N. Soetoro@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 7 22:10:01 2024
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/23/white-house-oregan-turn-towards- center-00159588

    The defeat of a liberal Portland prosecutor at the hands of a tough-on-
    crime challenger has hardened a view among top White House officials that Democrats need to further distance themselves from their left flank on law-and-order issues.

    In the wake of the voter backlash over public safety in Oregon, Joe
    Biden’s aides this week argued the results served as validation of their long-running concerns that crime and an immigration crisis at the southern border risk overwhelming the president’s case for reelection — especially
    if the broader party is seen as soft on both fronts.

    “Particularly right now, Americans don’t want to feel like things are out
    of control,” said one Biden official, who was granted anonymity to offer
    candid views about tensions within the party. “Well-meaning ideas have
    gone too far, and we need a sensible approach.”

    The White House is banking on the idea that voters will reward them for
    public efforts to crack down on immigration and boost spending on law enforcement — and, perhaps as importantly, that the liberal forces that so effectively moved the party away from those planks in 2020 won’t punish
    the president come November.

    Inside the West Wing, senior counselor Steve Ricchetti has been among the leading voices making this case, while also advocating for more toughness
    on the border, according to the Biden official and one other, both granted anonymity to discuss private conversations.

    But the president has not needed much convincing, the officials said,
    having personally favored an approach that emphasizes more traditional
    support for law enforcement alongside criminal justice reforms. Biden
    spent much of his half century in politics as an ardent advocate for law enforcement and anti-crime measures, a reputation that complicated his
    path to the 2020 Democratic nomination amid scrutiny over his role in
    passing a controversial 1994 crime bill.

    And even as the broader party shifted leftward on issues like police
    funding and immigration during that period, Biden sought to stake out a
    middle ground that often put him out of step with his progressive base — perhaps most notably using his first State of the Union address in 2022 to exhort lawmakers to “fund the police.”

    In recent months, Biden has warned advisers that scenes of chaos at the
    border or crime in cities pose an increasing political danger. They risk turning off the independent and suburban voters, he’s said, who may be
    repulsed by much of Donald Trump’s policies and personality but could be willing to vote for him anyway in the name of public safety.

    The emphasis has angered some Democrats, including lawmakers who believe
    that the president’s approach on immigration will establish a border- enforcement-only posture as the starting ground for any type of
    legislative compromise. Black lawmakers have similarly warned that Biden’s tough-on-crime rhetoric risks harming people of color. It has not gone unnoticed by progressives that much of the sharpening of Biden’s rhetoric
    has taken place after they lost a powerful ally in the West Wing when
    former chief of staff Ron Klain departed.

    But Biden and his senior-most aides are united on the need to push for
    greater border security. And elsewhere in the party, the tack to the
    middle has been welcomed. And the ouster in Portland’s Multnomah County of district attorney Mike Schmidt, one of a wave of progressive reformers
    swept into office following the 2020 murder of George Floyd, is proof
    itself of where the political winds are pointed.

    “We just always have to be focused on quality of life issues,” said Rep.
    Susie Lee (D-Nev.). “And if people don’t feel safe in their community,
    we’d better respond to that.”

    White House officials contend that Biden isn’t just making rhetorical adjustments but has substantive accomplishments to run on, too, pointing
    to statistics showing steep drops in murder rates across the country. On
    an issue where Republicans historically enjoy a sizable advantage, Biden
    aides said, Democrats for once have a story to tell.

    “The narrative about Democrats on crime became deeply distorted after
    Defund the Police became kind of a thing,” said Matt Bennett, executive
    vice president for public affairs at the center-left think tank Third Way.
    “In fact, [Biden] has been very aggressive about funding the police, and
    has flipped around that narrative in ways that I think are really
    helpful.”

    Still, it’s one that has yet to resonate with the public, with polls
    showing voters still unsatisfied with the White House’s handling of both
    crime and the southern border. Turning those perceptions around is a tough task, Democrats said, especially in a modern media environment that often
    skews toward amplifying episodes of chaos and unrest.

    “Crime and immigration, they’re very visual things. All we see is crime
    and murders and shit on the local news,” said one Democrat close to the
    White House, factors that contribute to the broader sense of post-pandemic unease many Biden allies believe is dragging down the president’s approval ratings.

    Biden advisers insist there is still time to make inroads with Americans
    on both fronts, and that even minor gains could prove critical in a tight presidential race. The February special election of Rep. Tom Suozzi (D-
    N.Y.), who ran on strengthening border security and law enforcement, has reinforced the belief their message can break through.

    “President Biden is leading with values that unite the American people
    across partisan and ideological lines, and which are delivering results, including the lowest violent crime rate in almost 50 years,” White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said in a statement, noting that the drop was “a reversal of the spiking violent crime rate he inherited.”

    The White House, to that end, has battered Republicans in recent days over their abandonment of a bipartisan border security bill that would’ve
    imposed strict new limits on immigration.

    The legislation, which Senate Democrats are forcing a vote on for the
    second time this week, has fueled blowback among progressive and Latino lawmakers who blasted its “extreme and unworkable enforcement-only
    policies.”

    But Biden has fully embraced the measure, repeatedly emphasizing the tough restrictions it’d put in place and criticizing Republicans for stalling
    the bill solely to avoid handing him an election-year victory. The White
    House is also preparing an executive order on immigration as a fallback,
    in a long-germinating display of his commitment to a border crackdown.

    The president has also made a point of voicing support for law enforcement
    in recent weeks. He refused to criticize police conducting mass arrests of pro-Palestinian protesters on college campuses, even as he backed the
    right to peacefully protest. And he’s repeatedly touted a plan to invest
    $37 billion in crime provision — a proposal that has little shot at being
    taken up in Congress, but that officials have used aggressively to counter
    GOP attacks on crime. Big city mayors have taken notice.

    “Democrats are smart to take the more practical approach now,” said New
    York City Mayor Eric Adams. “And that does not mean we have to abandon our principles, just that we must remember our roots: working people who just
    want their families to be safe and have a high quality of life.”

    Adams’ election in 2021 was treated, at the time, as an early indication
    of a Democratic voter course correction on the issue of crime. But for at
    least the next six months, Democrats across the spectrum appear largely
    willing to accept this trend, even if some on the left oppose Biden’s individual policies. Crime is indeed down from a year ago, and the strain
    at the border has eased for now, alleviating some of the pressure
    Democrats typically face in an election year.

    There is also deep-seated fear throughout the party of the alternative: A
    Trump presidency that has made clear it would prioritize mass deportations
    and sharp shifts away from the progress Biden has made on other criminal justice issues like gun violence prevention.

    “In some cases, progressives are suffering setbacks because people are frustrated in those particular locales with notions of policy. In some
    cases, progressives are winning,” said Paul Maslin, a longtime Democratic pollster. “But the truth is, we need both our bases and the middle, and we don’t have the luxury of picking one or the other.”

    Nick Reisman and Nick Wu contributed to this report.



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    No collusion - Special Counsel Robert Swan Mueller III, March 2019.
    Officially made Nancy Pelosi a two-time impeachment loser.

    Thank you for cleaning up the disaster of the 2008-2017 Obama / Biden
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    Under Barack Obama's leadership, the United States of America became the
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    President Trump boosted the economy, reduced illegal invasions, appointed dozens of judges and three SCOTUS justices.

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  • From sellers@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 10 20:13:51 2024
    XPost: "or.politics alt.crime alt.politics.conservative. talk.politics.guns. soc.politics"

    Well I though you were reasonable until I read your tags.

    We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so that
    stupid people won't be offended.

    Some intelligent folks are offended as well.


    Durham Report: The FBI has an integrity problem. It has none.

    More than felonious #45. More than Mitch McConnell, Marjorie Taylor
    Greene, Lyndsay Graham, Jim Jordan and a host of other members
    of the Freedom Caucus. Much more than Matt Gaetz who chases
    teenagers for sexual purposes.


    No collusion - Special Counsel Robert Swan Mueller III, March 2019.

    Report redacted by the Trump appointed Attorney General.

    Officially made Nancy Pelosi a two-time impeachment loser.

    Yes and that is the fault of the GOP voting the party line instead
    of paying attention to the crimes going on under Trump's direction.
    He stiffed the taxpayers over the charges to his hotels for the
    Secret Servicemen who were forced to stay in his hotels at an
    extravagant cost.


    Thank you for cleaning up the disaster of the 2008-2017 Obama / Biden
    fiasco, President Trump.

    Trump had nothing to clean up and he never did. You should thank Obama
    and Biden for helping to clean up the Bush mortgage disaster which broke
    a lot of people who thought they were well off.

    Bush in his rash actions about Iraq and Afghanistan destroyed the surplus
    that Bill Clinton had created but Clinton messed up with removing restrictions on financial matters which resulted in the debacle under Bush.


    Under Barack Obama's leadership, the United States of America became the
    The World According To Garp. Obama sold out heterosexuals for Hollywood queer liberal democrat donors.

    But Moscow Mitch McConnell showed his racist behind when he said that
    he would make Obama a single term president as soon as he won his
    first election.

    Maybe he did but I voted for him and think he is a well-intention ed man.
    And we have MAGA Queers who voted against their best interests as do
    most of the MAGA who are probably skilled workers of one kind or another.
    Most of them are Cis-Gendered Heterosexuals though and seem enchanted
    by DJT's insane charisma.


    President Trump boosted the economy, reduced illegal invasions, appointed dozens of judges and three SCOTUS justices.

    Baloney. with his tax cuts for the wealthy he destroyed the Government
    economy, surrended to the Taliban in Afghanistan, appointed dozens of
    judges whom he thought would support him in any event but some are
    honest. He appointed SCOUSA judges who he believed would support
    him and his confederates with a return to pre-Roe standards of care for pregnant women. That was with the collusion of Moscow Mitch in the
    Senate. MM denied Obama an appointment of Merrick Garland who
    was a conservative Democrat.

    Now women who risk dying in pregnancy when they have complications
    are being denied Health Care in some of their home states. Some
    women will die because the doctors are afraid of the law and fear
    it will be invoked if they remove a dead fetus from the womb.

    He continually sucked up to vicious dictators all over the world and schemed
    to cut the voting rights of American Citizens that is why after 4 years of
    his mismanagement and lying to the American people about Covid-19 enough
    of us got out and voted him out. Trump is a Felon and a Loser. Just like
    the Confederacy and its Generals, who swore Oaths to protect and defend
    the U.S.Constitution and broke them for the sole purpose of maintaining
    chattel slavery.

    What do you mean by illegal invasions? Immigration by Asylum Seekers?
    If so they were not illegal invasions. But fentanyl use and deaths started soaring under Trump so i doubt his under-staffed and somewhat racist
    border patrol-persons were catching much of the drugs smuggled into
    the USA which is an illegal invasion. Asylum seekers by the way are
    covered by Treaty Law which supersedes the US Constitution and
    any law made by lesser authority.

    Trump is a weak man's idea of a strong man and lies spill from
    his mouth every day. He lied to the American people about
    Covid-19 and killed at least hundreds of thousands of foolish
    people who thought he was an honest man. He has no medical
    degrees and he gave medical advice, promoting quack cures from
    which he must have been profiting. He sequestered the Personal
    Protective Equipment urgently needed by the hospitals to keep
    the medical personnel well as they were taking care of the
    desperately ill Covid-19 patients. He did one good thing by
    throwing money which he understood to be the universal remedy
    at the problem which resulted in the rapid production of the
    vaccines which he then deprecated to his ever loyal audience
    causing many of them to die..

    Biden is doing things that help the workers of the nation,
    bringing real jobs back from overseas and that means that
    the future of the USA will be brighter if we survive the Fascist
    urge of the MAGA and the denial of Climate Change.

    Oh and #45 the Felon screwed with environmental regulation
    during his disastrous term. He reversed things that Richard
    Nixon that old power hungry man had done that were good
    for the environment.

    He also inadvertently told a truth the other night at a
    rally when he said, "I don't care about you." I care
    about your vote". He is another power hungry man
    now hoping to stay out of Jail by being re-elected
    and even hoping for a third term. The Republicans
    after FDR's last win got the Amendment through
    the States that bars more than 2 Terms for a
    President but Trump wants to be a dictator.
    He idolizes Hitler but he doesn't have the wit
    to write a book in Jail as Adolph did.

    And you sir are either a propagandist or perhaps
    a fool if you believe that things were good
    under #45.

    bliss in San Francisco

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