• HA Ha ! Crusader Anti-Vape "Expert" Forced To Admit NOBODY Has Died of

    From 68hx.1807@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 3 00:06:24 2024
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13374287/Vaping-reforms-Australian-National-University-Professor-Emily-Banks-makes-shock-admission-parliamentary-inquiry.html

    An anti-vaping professor has been grilled during a senate
    inquiry to provide examples of e-cigarette deaths before
    she eventually admitted the only known deaths is when vape
    batteries exploded.

    Professor Emily Banks was questioned at the senate inquiry
    for the Therapeutic Goods and Other Legislation Amendment
    (Vaping Reforms) Bill on Wednesday.

    The head of the Centre for Public Health Data and Policy
    at Australian National University in Canberra is a leading
    advocate for stricter regulations on vapes due to health
    concerns regarding the popular devices.

    Federal Nationals Senator for Queensland Matt Canavan told
    the inquiry that he is still not sure 'after all these years'
    if anyone had died using a vape in places like the United
    Kingdom or New Zealand.

    'Or even just a severe medical episode. Because I'm trying
    to reach what the threshold is here before we ban something,'
    he said.

    . . .

    Puritan crusaders.

    Odd how they don't give a shit if people smoke
    massive quantities of marijuana - because that'll
    make you STUPID enough to believe lefties :-)

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 2 22:56:24 2024
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    On 5/2/24 21:06, 68hx.1807 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13374287/Vaping-reforms- Australian-National-University-Professor-Emily-Banks-makes-shock- admission-parliamentary-inquiry.html

    An anti-vaping professor has been grilled during a senate
    inquiry to provide examples of e-cigarette deaths before
    she eventually admitted the only known deaths is when vape
    batteries exploded.

    Professor Emily Banks was questioned at the senate inquiry
    for the Therapeutic Goods and Other Legislation Amendment
    (Vaping Reforms) Bill on Wednesday.

    The head of the Centre for Public Health Data and Policy
    at Australian National University in Canberra is a leading
    advocate for stricter regulations on vapes due to health
    concerns regarding the popular devices.

    Federal Nationals Senator for Queensland Matt Canavan told
    the inquiry that he is still not sure 'after all these years'
    if anyone had died using a vape in places like the United
    Kingdom or New Zealand.

    'Or even just a severe medical episode. Because I'm trying
    to reach what the  threshold is here before we ban something,'
    he said.

    . . .

      Puritan crusaders.

      Odd how they don't give a shit if people smoke
      massive quantities of marijuana - because that'll
      make you STUPID enough to believe lefties  :-)

    Since nicotine is a slow killer acting negatively
    on the cardiopulumonary and nervous system. deaths by
    nicotine vaporizing are in the future if they happen at all.
    Meantime youthful addictions to nicotine are very difficult
    to break. My late roomie started when she was 14 YOA and
    died of brain cancer at 75. She had stopped smoking when she
    was in her late 50s or early 60s. But nicotine addiction
    in the young has distressing symptoms of nervous agitation.
    and hostility when deprived of the addictive substance.

    Years ago smoking cannabis was cleared of all charges
    but bronchitis which while inconvenient does not kill one most
    of the time. Some individuals are allergic to the substances
    in cannabis smoke or edible versions. Some young people who may
    be unstable have negative reactions so until you are mature
    enough to know who you are you might lay off the weed.

    As for weed making you suseptible to propaganda you
    might look at legal alcohol use which may make you believe the
    QAnon line of lies. Maybe it destroys those critical brain
    cells?

    Leftist fantasies aside do you think that the working
    people of the USA are fairly treated? That is the whole motivater
    behind the so-called left. Right wing fantasies are exemplified
    by the billionaires who use the GOP to try to destroy the nation.

    bliss-retired old 85.6 yoa nurse

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  • From 68hx.1807@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Fri May 3 21:50:40 2024
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    On 5/3/24 1:56 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 5/2/24 21:06, 68hx.1807 wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13374287/Vaping-reforms-
    Australian-National-University-Professor-Emily-Banks-makes-shock-
    admission-parliamentary-inquiry.html

    An anti-vaping professor has been grilled during a senate
    inquiry to provide examples of e-cigarette deaths before
    she eventually admitted the only known deaths is when vape
    batteries exploded.

    Professor Emily Banks was questioned at the senate inquiry
    for the Therapeutic Goods and Other Legislation Amendment
    (Vaping Reforms) Bill on Wednesday.

    The head of the Centre for Public Health Data and Policy
    at Australian National University in Canberra is a leading
    advocate for stricter regulations on vapes due to health
    concerns regarding the popular devices.

    Federal Nationals Senator for Queensland Matt Canavan told
    the inquiry that he is still not sure 'after all these years'
    if anyone had died using a vape in places like the United
    Kingdom or New Zealand.

    'Or even just a severe medical episode. Because I'm trying
    to reach what the  threshold is here before we ban something,'
    he said.

    . . .

       Puritan crusaders.

       Odd how they don't give a shit if people smoke
       massive quantities of marijuana - because that'll
       make you STUPID enough to believe lefties  :-)

        Since nicotine is a slow killer acting negatively
    on the cardiopulumonary and nervous system. deaths by
    nicotine vaporizing are in the future if they happen at all.

    Mostly there will be a lot more 'environmental'/lifestyle
    challenges - I'm old now, I know - actual nicotine damage
    will be a minor part of the equation in almost all cases.

    Meantime youthful addictions to nicotine are very difficult
    to break. My late roomie started when she was 14 YOA and
    died of brain cancer at 75. She had stopped smoking when she
    was in her late 50s or early 60s.  But nicotine addiction
    in the young has distressing symptoms of nervous agitation.
    and hostility when deprived of the addictive substance.

    Hard to draw population-scale stats from ONE case, and
    do note that lots of people who never smoked anything
    get brain cancers. It's more a genetic lottery. SOMETHING
    is gonna get you ... and for x-percent it's going to be
    some kind of cancer.

    DO note recent crowing by the Brits about their "personalized"
    m-RNA melanoma treatment (which could become quite cheap if
    done on a larger scale). There's a similar glioma approach
    with ultra-impressive results in some cases. M-RNA research
    has been HEAVILY funded since Covid - and it's now looking
    to be a magic bullet against a lot of cancers, maybe all.

        Years ago smoking cannabis was cleared of all charges
    but bronchitis which while inconvenient does not kill one most
    of the time.  Some individuals are allergic to the substances
    in cannabis smoke or edible versions. Some young people who may
    be unstable have negative reactions so until you are mature
    enough to know who you are you might lay off the weed.

    Look ... NOBODY is gonna "wait until they are mature" to
    get buzzed - they'll go straight at it before they've
    got grass on the lawn. This is the fact.

    Marijuana, even pure THCs, are not "harmless". Weed has
    as many nasty things, maybe more, than tobacco. THC
    makes a lot of people just stupid or worse (had to quit
    it in my late teens because of the 'just stupid' aspect).

    In short NOTHING is "harmless" - except maybe the water
    at military bases eh ? What "harms" is, again, rather
    individual. Some can kinda bathe in dioxin and such and
    live to 100 - others can barely smell glyphosphate and
    get horribly sick. Once again, 'genetic lottery' (and
    perhaps some co-factors).

    Sorry, but the Rest Of Us are NOT gonna give up all
    the niceties and perks of modern life just because
    *somebody* gets sick from it. Oh, and look into the
    lifespan of medieval peasants before you embrace the
    "modern-free" model .....

        As for weed making you suseptible to propaganda you
    might look at legal alcohol use which may make you believe the
    QAnon line of lies.  Maybe it destroys those critical brain
    cells?

    Nicotine makes you a bit sharper. Alcohol generally
    makes people more skeptical, more willing to laugh
    at 'authorities'. Too much weed just seems to make
    people dull and gullible. Been there, seen it all
    since the 60s. You don't wanna know how old I was
    when someone gifted me a tab of acid (happy to get
    it, but lucky I split it !)

    Hey, it was the Age Of Aquarius ... :-)

    As for QAnon ... there IS a percentage who are just
    generally gullible for Vast Konspiracy Theories. Dunno
    why - but it's so common through history that it's bound
    to be genetic, a "human thing". Religious/political/
    philosophical/economic/satanic/UFO True Believers fully
    populate our past and present and, alas, often steer
    events.

        Leftist fantasies aside do you think that the working
    people of the USA are fairly treated? That is the whole motivater
    behind the so-called left. Right wing fantasies are exemplified
    by the billionaires who use the GOP to try to destroy the nation.

        bliss-retired old 85.6 yoa nurse

    Not QUITE as old - but old enough to have Seen It :-)

    And yea, the left/right/xian/islam/etc stuff is HYPED
    by a relative handful of power-seekers. It's a game.
    They exploit the abovementioned gullibility thing.
    Again, nothing NEW.

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