• Re: Oregon Legislature approves bill to re-criminalize certain drug pos

    From 63h.1504@21:1/5 to Leroy N. Soetoro on Mon Mar 4 15:54:07 2024
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    On 3/4/24 3:32 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/01/politics/oregon-legislature-drug-bill-re- criminalize/index.html

    Lawmakers in Oregon have overwhelmingly passed a bill that would make possession of a small amount of certain drugs a misdemeanor in the state, moving to re-criminalize substances like fentanyl roughly three years
    after the state became the first in the nation to de-criminalize the possession and personal use of all drugs.

    Problem - what do you DO with all those (and it will
    be a HUGE ongoing number) arrested ??? Many HAVE
    NOTHING, can't pay fines or whatever. Jail/camps/gulags
    COST LOTS OF TAXPAYER MONEY to maintain and BET they'd
    turn into a horrific scene the Media would go nuts over.

    Note that criminalization also increases the STAKES for
    junkies - who will become more violent, more likely to
    steal big and maybe eliminate witnesses.

    While it's understood WHY these pin-headed Wokies were
    in a panic to reverse their idiotic law (the GOP
    should exploit that in endless mocking election ads) it
    is likely TOO LATE since so MANY junkies moved to the
    state and especially Portland. You asked for them,
    you GOT them.

    "Dope" is a 6/dozen kind of thing. Can't win for losing.

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 4 17:02:42 2024
    On 3/4/24 12:54, 63h.1504 wrote:
    On 3/4/24 3:32 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/01/politics/oregon-legislature-drug-bill-re-
    criminalize/index.html

    Lawmakers in Oregon have overwhelmingly passed a bill that would make
    possession of a small amount of certain drugs a misdemeanor in the state,
    moving to re-criminalize substances like fentanyl roughly three years
    after the state became the first in the nation to de-criminalize the
    possession and personal use of all drugs.

      Problem - what do you DO with all those (and it will
      be a HUGE ongoing number) arrested ??? Many HAVE
      NOTHING, can't pay fines or whatever. Jail/camps/gulags
      COST LOTS OF TAXPAYER MONEY to maintain and BET they'd
      turn into a horrific scene the Media would go nuts over.

      Note that criminalization also increases the STAKES for
      junkies - who will become more violent, more likely to
      steal big and maybe eliminate witnesses.

      While it's understood WHY these pin-headed Wokies were
      in a panic to reverse their idiotic law (the GOP
      should exploit that in endless mocking election ads) it
      is likely TOO LATE since so MANY junkies moved to the
      state and especially Portland. You asked for them,
      you GOT them.

      "Dope" is a 6/dozen kind of thing. Can't win for losing.

    But the law did not not stop people from using opiates
    after it was made illegal for doctors to maintenance therapy
    with injectable morphine in 1916 with the Harrison Narcotics
    Act. Maintenance therapy had been used since the Civil War to
    ease pain of war injuries. This permitted the afflicted to
    pursue their normal activities. After the HNA was passed the
    war heroes and otherwise afflicted were labeled "junkies" and
    had to spend their time trying to get medicated. Further the
    smugglers realized that more compact drugs were easier to
    smuggle and went from morphine to heroin, now finally to
    fentanyl which is much more powerful than heroin.

    We need to re-engage maintenance therapy and stop
    having labeling the afflicted as "junkies".

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