• Oregon's drug recriminalization bill sails through key committee, heads

    From P. Coonan@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 2 19:15:02 2024
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    Who saw that coming?

    A bill rolling back Oregon’s pioneering drug decriminalization law is
    moving forward in the Legislature, after getting broad support from
    lawmakers in both parties.

    In a brief hearing on Tuesday evening, a special committee passed out
    House Bill 4002 in a 10-2 vote. That outcome bodes well for the bill’s
    chances in the full House of Representatives, where it could get a vote
    later this week.

    The vote held little of the passionate debate that has characterized
    discussion of the state’s addiction crisis and how to respond to it. Over hourslong hearings that began last fall, the committee has heard pleas
    from family members of drug users, police, business owners, advocates, attorneys and others to address the alarming impacts of fentanyl in the
    state. Often those testifying disagreed on the best course of action.

    On Tuesday, members of the special Joint Committee on Addiction and
    Community Safety Response were measured and in agreement that they needed
    to act — even if they weren’t aligned on the particulars.

    “Everybody gave a little bit in this process,” said Sen. Tim Knopp, R-
    Bend, the Senate minority leader. “We always said that we wanted to have a bipartisan product and I think this is our best opportunity.”

    The bill lawmakers landed on would end the state’s three-year experiment
    with decriminalization, in which being caught with small amounts of
    illicit drugs has been punishable by a ticket. The bill would instead make
    such low-level possession a misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in
    jail.

    Democrats who crafted the proposal say they’ve built in multiple
    opportunities for drug users to opt in to treatment in order to dodge
    criminal consequences and have their records automatically expunged.
    They’ve sold the bill as a way to give law enforcement more authority to
    combat public drug use, while at the same time prioritizing public health strategies.

    “The ability to make this an unclassified misdemeanor has given us
    flexibility to send a message to our courts and our law enforcement
    partners, our [district attorneys] and our public defenders about what our expectation is,” said state Rep. Jason Kropf, D-Bend, a committee co-chair
    and an architect of the bill.

    https://www.opb.org/article/2024/02/27/oregons-drug-recriminalization- bill-sails-through-key-committee-heads-for-house-vote/

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  • From 63h.1504@21:1/5 to P. Coonan on Sat Mar 2 16:13:09 2024
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    On 3/2/24 2:15 PM, P. Coonan wrote:
    Who saw that coming?

    A bill rolling back Oregon’s pioneering drug decriminalization law is moving forward in the Legislature, after getting broad support from
    lawmakers in both parties.

    Republicans should run their high and moral PRO-legalization
    rhetoric on a loop until November ... ending each add with
    a "So What Happened ?" message :-)

    Same for the rhetoric from the 'sanctuary' cities.

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  • From Mikey@21:1/5 to P. Coonan on Sun Mar 3 01:00:04 2024
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Oh, this law will not change anything. The Soro's DA's will
    not prosecute any one despite what this law says.

    On 2024-03-02, P. Coonan <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
    Who saw that coming?

    A bill rolling back OregonÂ’s pioneering drug decriminalization law is
    moving forward in the Legislature, after getting broad support from
    lawmakers in both parties.

    In a brief hearing on Tuesday evening, a special committee passed out
    House Bill 4002 in a 10-2 vote. That outcome bodes well for the billÂ’s chances in the full House of Representatives, where it could get a vote
    later this week.

    The vote held little of the passionate debate that has characterized discussion of the stateÂ’s addiction crisis and how to respond to it. Over hourslong hearings that began last fall, the committee has heard pleas
    from family members of drug users, police, business owners, advocates, attorneys and others to address the alarming impacts of fentanyl in the state. Often those testifying disagreed on the best course of action.

    On Tuesday, members of the special Joint Committee on Addiction and
    Community Safety Response were measured and in agreement that they needed
    to act — even if they weren’t aligned on the particulars.

    “Everybody gave a little bit in this process,” said Sen. Tim Knopp, R- Bend, the Senate minority leader. “We always said that we wanted to have a bipartisan product and I think this is our best opportunity.”

    The bill lawmakers landed on would end the stateÂ’s three-year experiment with decriminalization, in which being caught with small amounts of
    illicit drugs has been punishable by a ticket. The bill would instead make such low-level possession a misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail.

    Democrats who crafted the proposal say theyÂ’ve built in multiple opportunities for drug users to opt in to treatment in order to dodge criminal consequences and have their records automatically expunged.
    TheyÂ’ve sold the bill as a way to give law enforcement more authority to combat public drug use, while at the same time prioritizing public health strategies.

    “The ability to make this an unclassified misdemeanor has given us flexibility to send a message to our courts and our law enforcement
    partners, our [district attorneys] and our public defenders about what our expectation is,” said state Rep. Jason Kropf, D-Bend, a committee co-chair and an architect of the bill.

    https://www.opb.org/article/2024/02/27/oregons-drug-recriminalization- bill-sails-through-key-committee-heads-for-house-vote/

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Mikey on Sat Mar 2 21:26:59 2024
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    On 3/2/24 17:00, Mikey wrote:
    Oh, this law will not change anything. The Soro's DA's will
    not prosecute any one despite what this law says.


    I think prohibition is wrong but there must be
    rules but unless they become laws no one pays attention.

    Now Soros has nothing to do with any of this and reveals
    Mikey as a right wing nut job and conspiracy theorist.
    Unless of course he is a Left Wing Nut Job and Con man.

    [big snip of original post]

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  • From Mikey@21:1/5 to Bobbie Sellers on Thu Mar 7 02:00:04 2024
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    On 2024-03-03, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
    On 3/2/24 17:00, Mikey wrote:
    Oh, this law will not change anything. The Soro's DA's will
    not prosecute any one despite what this law says.


    I think prohibition is wrong but there must be
    rules but unless they become laws no one pays attention.

    Now Soros has nothing to do with any of this and reveals
    Mikey as a right wing nut job and conspiracy theorist.
    Unless of course he is a Left Wing Nut Job and Con man.


    Yeah, He didn't give tens of thousands of dollars to
    liberal DA's elections so that they would be elected and violent
    people would get off with no prison time?

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Mikey on Wed Mar 6 19:45:13 2024
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    On 3/6/24 18:00, Mikey wrote:
    On 2024-03-03, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
    On 3/2/24 17:00, Mikey wrote:
    Oh, this law will not change anything. The Soro's DA's will
    not prosecute any one despite what this law says.


    I think prohibition is wrong but there must be
    rules but unless they become laws no one pays attention.

    Now Soros has nothing to do with any of this and reveals
    Mikey as a right wing nut job and conspiracy theorist.
    Unless of course he is a Left Wing Nut Job and Con man.


    Yeah, He didn't give tens of thousands of dollars to
    liberal DA's elections so that they would be elected and violent
    people would get off with no prison time?


    I really doubt he did that. Can you pull up the campaign
    Finance recordcs and direct me to that site where it says that
    Soros whose affairs are most dealt with by his son presently I
    believe.

    I really doubt that Soros, a rich man is interested in
    the undermining of law and order. But some people are interested
    in the spread of conspiracy theories and not academically because
    it supports their other ideas. There are rich men who are interested
    in the undermining of law and order because they wish to end the
    people's electoral process and become dictators in the USA.
    Elon Mush is one who is not so much interested in free speech
    as in silencing his critics.

    Anyway this is off topic for the talk.politics.drugs
    newsgroups as it approaches political matters to do with other
    than drugs.


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