• Re: Blue state lawmakers pass drug possession bill in rush to avoid dec

    From Baxter@21:1/5 to Anthony Soprano on Sat Nov 25 21:51:24 2023
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    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in news:ksev0vFoq1nU1@mid.individual.net:

    On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:30:53 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:

    "This bill is not designed to fill our jails, it’s designed to fill
    our treatment centers," Gov. Jay Inslee, a Democrat, said in a
    statement. "And the investments we’re making will create treatment >>resources in small townships and big cities. This is a statewide
    solution to a statewide problem."

    Do you know that the recovery rate for drug and alcohol treatment
    centers
    is less then 10%? So 90% of the money given to 'treatment centers' is
    just being pissed away.

    So you'd rather spend it on jails - and destroy lives?!

    But do post your reference(s) - because I'm finding completely different numbers:
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    Drug Addiction Recovery Statistics

    The Butler Center for Research at Hazelden Betty Ford Foundation
    reports that roughly 89 percent of patients who complete alcohol rehab
    are still sober one month after discharge.
    An estimated 76 percent of alcohol rehab patients who successfully
    complete treatment report still being sober at three months, roughly 69
    percent are still sober at six months, and a little more than 70 percent
    are still sober at nine months.
    Between 85 percent and 95 percent of all people who successfully
    complete drug rehab report still being abstinent from all drugs nine
    months after discharge.
    Roughly 80 percent of patients report benefiting from improved
    quality of life and health after completing drug and alcohol rehab.
    Florida has the highest success rates of drug rehab compared to all
    other states. A little more than 70 percent of people who receive
    addiction treatment in Florida successfully complete their treatment
    programs.
    An estimated 43 percent of all people who go to drug rehab
    successfully complete their treatment programs, while another 16 percent
    are transferred to other rehab centers for additional treatment.
    Rehab success rates for those who complete drug and alcohol
    detoxification are a combined 68 percent.
    An estimated 41 percent of people who receive medication-assisted
    treatment (MAT) for opioid detox successfully complete treatment and
    achieve abstinence.
    Of those who successfully complete MAT for opioid dependence, around
    13 percent receive outpatient treatment.
    The highest percentage of drug rehabilitation success rates for
    outpatient treatment involve admissions for alcohol and marijuana
    addiction. More than 45 percent of adults age 18 and older who
    successfully complete outpatient drug rehab are admitted for alcohol
    abuse, while more than 36 percent of adults are admitted for marijuana
    abuse.
    A little more than 40 percent of people who successfully finish
    outpatient drug rehab had initially decided on their own to seek
    treatment and become sober.
    Around 67 percent of people who successfully complete outpatient drug
    rehab programs have their treatment costs covered by Medicaid, Medicare,
    and other government sources.
    People who successfully complete outpatient MAT for opioid dependence
    stay at a drug rehab for an average of 113 days.
    People who successfully complete outpatient treatment for any
    substance use disorder stay at a drug rehab for an average of 81 days.
    Those who successfully finish intensive outpatient programs for any substance use disorder stay at a drug rehab for an average of 53 days.
    Alcohol makes up the highest percentage of admissions to drug rehab
    centers at 33 percent, followed by opioids at 34 percent, marijuana at 13 percent, stimulants at 11 percent, and cocaine at 5 percent.
    Between 40 percent and 60 percent of patients who suffer from drug
    use disorders end up relapsing when treatment is discontinued. However,
    these relapse rates are significantly lower than those for other chronic diseases such as hypertension and asthma.

    https://www.legacytreatment.org/blog/rehab-success-rate-statistics/

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Anthony Soprano on Sun Nov 26 13:17:45 2023
    XPost: or.politics, alt.politics.obama, alt.politics.democrats
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 11/26/2023 1:16 PM, Anthony Soprano wrote:
    On 11/26/2023 10:44 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/25/2023 11:08 AM, Anthony Soprano wrote:
    On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:30:53 -0000 (UTC), "Leroy N. Soetoro"
    <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:

    "This bill is not designed to fill our jails, it’s designed to fill our >>>> treatment centers," Gov. Jay Inslee, a Democrat, said in a statement. "And >>>> the investments we’re making will create treatment resources in small >>>> townships and big cities. This is a statewide solution to a statewide
    problem."

    Do you know that the recovery rate for drug and alcohol treatment centers >>> is less then 10%?

    No, and you don't know that, either. You pulled that number out of your gaping
    HIV-oozing asshole.

    I don't know what the rate is, and pretty obviously it isn't 100%, but it is >> extremely doubtful it's as low as your shitty fake number.

    My bullshit lies all start here.

    Indeed.

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