• Re: San Francisco 'doom loop' canned, but even opposition group?s 'posi

    From Harris Slut@21:1/5 to Karney on Mon Aug 28 01:46:33 2023
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    Karney <nowomr@protonmail.com> wrote in
    news:ucesj3$12fi0$5@dont-email.me:

    Democrats are too stupid to see the error of their ways.

    The sold-out planned ‘‘doom loop” tour of drug-infested San Francisco was canceled, and community leaders tried to hold a “positive walk” instead —
    only to still stroll past addicts getting high and homeless camps.

    Curious tourists and locals had shelled out $30 a pop on Eventbrite for a weekend tour promising an up-close-and-personal experience with San
    Francisco, “the model of urban decay” — complete with walks past its
    “open-air drug markets and vacant office and retail spaces.

    But the tour’s guide, only listed as “SF Anonymous Insider,” failed to
    show at Saturday’s event, claiming he was afraid to carry it out because
    of all the controversy around it.

    “Unfortunately, the substantial media interest means that it is not
    possible to preserve my anonymity while publicly posting the tour’s time
    and meeting location,” he wrote in a message to customers, according to
    the San Francisco Chronicle.

    Community activist Del Seymour and others with the nonprofit Code
    Tenderloin — who had gathered at the tour’s designated starting point to protest the event — then led about 70 people on an nearly 2-mile “anti-
    doom loop tour” through areas such as City Hall, Union Square, Mid-Market
    and the Tenderloin District.

    One of their stops, the Civic Center district, was eerily empty except for half-baked drug addicts bent over after taking a hit on fentanyl and other drugs.

    As the tour group walked past shuttered stores such as the Whole Foods
    grocery store on Market Street, drug deals were happening in broad
    daylight.

    A homeless man yelled at some in the group as they passed by the
    encampments.

    Some of the homeless men and women laying on the street corners looked up
    in confusion as the tour group walked past them.

    Serena, a group member who brought snacks and water in her bag, stopped to
    give some of the homeless men and a woman some of her food.

    The woman, who was passed out on the ground, was so high on drugs that she couldn’t even lift her head to say thank you.

    Another man took a long deep breath out of a pipe and blew smoke into the
    air.

    He grabbed one of the snacks Serena offered.

    “It’s hard because housing here has turned into a crisis,” Serena told The Post. “It feels like City Hall isn’t listening to the community and this
    is the fall out of the broken systems that we are seeing.”

    During the two-hour tour, Seymour talked about various programs available
    in the Tenderloin, including subsidized low-income housing where families
    pay only $400 for a three-bedroom apartment that normally would rent for
    $5,000 to $8,000 a month.

    Seymour also pointed to the various services available to the homeless in
    the area, including free meals and housing, but also told The Post part of
    the struggle involves getting those who need help to recognize they need
    it.

    “If I’m unhoused and have mental challenges, you can’t just spend 30
    seconds and then walk away after I say no,” he said. “You need to sit down
    with me and talk to me in a gentlemanly manner. It might take an hour, it
    may take two, but you have to give me that time and build that trust with
    me so we can make some sort of compromise.”

    As for the “doom loop” tour, the activist said, “I fell out of the chair laughing because of the meanness that people in San Francisco have to even suggest something like this.

    “This is not healthy or helpful at all for our people,” he said. “We don’t
    want to live in the situation we are living in. We want to do something
    about it, but you can’t do something about it when people beat you down.”

    Dany Vallerand said she initially wanted to take the advertised “doom
    loop” tour because she usually didn’t feel comfortable going through the
    area on her own.

    “I just thought it would be very interesting, and I hoped the money would
    go to a good cause, like some charity,” she told The Post. “I was hoping
    to explore the Tenderloin in a way that I normally wouldn’t feel
    comfortable doing on my own and accompanied by other people with a
    different point of view.”

    Vallerand said that while she was “perfectly happy” to take the anti-doom
    loop tour instead, she noted the economic downtown of San Francisco has affected many residents such as herself, as flagship businesses have left
    the area and property value going down.

    Vallerand said she recently sold her condo $150,000 below her asking
    price.

    “It is very hard to see it happening here,” she said.

    More than 20 businesses, including Nordstrom, Whole Foods and Old Navy,
    have left the area since January 2022.

    While locals such as Vallerand decided to take the opposition tour, others
    who signed up for the original “doom loop” version were disappointed they didn’t get what they paid for and left.

    But Serena said she decided to participate in the “positive” tour because
    the initial Eventbrite listing offended her.

    “They wanted to showcase the doom of the Tenderloin, and to me, it sounded
    very f–ked up,” said Serena, who did not want to provide her last name. “I can’t believe it sold out.”

    https://nypost.com/2023/08/27/san-francisco-doom-loop-tour-a-bust-but- even-opposition-groups-positive-walk-cant-dodge-open-drug-use-homeless/

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Harris Slut on Sun Aug 27 20:12:45 2023
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    On 8/27/23 16:46, Harris Slut wrote:
    Community activist Del Seymour

    Often called the Mayor of the Tenderloin.
    A lot of the people passed out on the streets are alcohol users.
    Many of the people in the Tenderloin are the ones not visible except as they move thru the crowd of incapacitated substance users.
    The reason that Fentanyl is so popular is because it is easier
    to move into the nation being much more compact than heroin.
    So the Prohibition of Drugs, in particular opiates led from smoking opium to shooting first morphine and then heroin to escape
    the discomfort of real life. Of course when it was passed in 1916
    as the Harrison Narcotics Act it made junkies out of all those medically addicted veterans of America's wars. Previously medically addicted
    individuals has gotten treated at doctors' offices with a shot of morphine.
    So the Prohibition of Drugs led directly to the scene of of
    wasted lives seen on the streets of every large city with roots deep
    in the rural areas where work can be very hard and proper anti-drug
    education as with sexual education is completely neglected.

    Before what we call "Modern times" every small town had laws
    against carrying guns in public but about 50 or 60 years ago those
    under the influence of the National Rifle Association of which I
    was a life time member and its rich supporters who made and sold
    firearms those laws intended for peace-keeping. In the 1930s we
    were smart enough to outlaw Thompson Sub-machine guns but presently
    while those laws remain in force we are too dumb to outlaw "bump stocks"
    and those weapons easily converted to auto-fire.

    When i was young and dumb I thought outlawing the Tommie guns
    was bad but with recent history my young self stands against the
    present along with me older and wiser but a gun owner and if the
    occasion arises a gun user. I hope that things never get bad enough
    that I have to carry around town openly or concealed.

    I am an American born in 1937 and living in San Francisco for
    the healthful climate since 1967.

    bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco

    "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
    It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
    the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
    It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
    --from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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