• DRUGS SHOULD BE MARKETED AS POISON LEGALLY; AS MEDICINE BY PERMISSI

    From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Mon Sep 6 11:22:03 2021
    On 9/4/21 14:29, Intelligent Party wrote:
    Drugs OUGHT *NOT* be marketed as recreation!  Drugs OUGHT *NOT* be
    marketed as party-fun!

    Drugs OUGHT BE marketed as over-the-counter poison, because that's what
    they are!

    Poison!

    Drugs OUGHT BE marketed as over-the-counter MEDICINE by permission
    ONLY!  Like Advil!

    BUT, ALL DRUGS OUGHT TO BE FOR SALE ON DEMAND, SOMEHOW!  THEY OUGHT TO
    BE, AND ANYONE DISAGREEING WITH THIS, IS WRONG!

    WRONG!

    WRONG!

    WRONG!

    GUILTY!

    YOU ARE GUILTY DEA!  YOU ARE GUILTY JUDGE!  GUILTY!  YOU ARE GUILTY POLITICIAN WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME!  YOU ARE GUILTY VOTER WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME!  GUILTY! GUILTY LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO MURDER THE JEWS, AND GUILTY LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO ENSLAVE THE BLACKS!  THE LAW IS REAL.  THE
    LAW IS SCIENCE.  THE LAW IS NOT THE MAKE-BELIEVE OF A DICTATOR, BE HE A VOTER OR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE!  CHOOSE FREEDOM OR BE GUILTY!

    okay, so back to what I was saying anyway,

    You can't LEGALLY sell snake oil as a cure for cancer.  You can only say "snake oil is a cure for cancer," if you *don't* sell it; and you can
    only sell snake oil as the useless snake oil it is! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil

    Capitalism wants to sell you NOTHING: - a Star, land on Mars, Hawaiian
    sea water,
    and Capitalism wants to sell you something, that hurts you - Drugs! Capitalism just wants to profit, hence CONSUMER PROTECTIONS, and
    EMPLOYEE PROTECTIONS - regulation of commerce - have merit!


    But it's my body, my Spraypaint, and my right to huff it!  God damn it!

    God damn it!

    It's my glue!

    MY PROPERTY!!!

    You have a right to possess property.  You don't have a right to larceny
    - that is, intent to deprive another of stolen property.  Hence you do
    not have a right, to knowingly possess stolen property.  Current
    statutes are supposed to be based on such common law, legal principles.
    Not on malarkey.

    Prohibitions of possession, hang on the notion that there is no right to possess property, and this is an abject LIE.


    Also, it'd be drugs which are a mental impediment, and likely to be frivolously used, that would be sold out of sight, out of mind.  All
    drugs ought to be for sale on demand, over the counter, somehow.  AS
    POISON!

    Who passed these drug laws, and infringed upon OUR RIGHT TO SELF-PRESCRIPTION?! Both infringements are ABJECT, HORRIBLE, HORRIFYING; CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.  Our right to self-prescribe is legal and
    just.  Our right to own drugs, and use them, is a fact.  It's my body,
    and my spray paint, and my right to huff it; though I don't.

    Those who passed these drug laws, are mad scientists, crazies and
    criminals, perhaps the self-condemning.  We should not be bound by the idiots of yesterday.
    "The world belongs usufruct to the living." - Thomas Jefferson, 1789


    Drugs with habit potential ought to be distributed in a separate part of
    the store, BEHIND A CURTAIN, or through a SEPARATE NUMBER-ONLY, MARKED ENTRANCE.
    DISTRIBUTING HABITUAL USE DRUGS - OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND, will help
    reduce recidivist use among those willing to stop.

    No one believes that drugs are wrong; because DRUGS ARE NOT WRONG!
    DRUGS ARE BAD!

    Drugs with potential for recreational use, ought to carry instructions, saying: "this is a poisonous drug, not intended for recreational use.
    However if you use recreationally, it is superior to use in this manner:"

    For every day you use a drug, don't use it for three.  If you've been
    using daily, quit for two months, and go back to this max use.  This is
    use, rather than abuse.  Twice per month is better, and is the way most
    sane people party.  If you drink liquor merely three nights per week,
    you will seriously become an alcoholic.  25 million people are
    alcoholics in America and drink 10 or more drinks per day. This is 1/2 a fifth.  140 million more merely use.  More serious alcoholics drink 1 to two fifths per day, that's 25-50 drinks!  A few, a handle, that's 60!

    Drugs are actually A SOCIAL IMPEDIMENT, and A MENTAL IMPEDIMENT.
    There's a marginal benefit, such as there is to riding roller coasters.
    But who rides roller coasters more than four times per year?  And who thought roller coasters, or a movie, were very social?!

    Additionally, drugs use up all your good feelings at once, or numb your
    bad feelings!

    Classes of drugs in my mind:

    1.Alcohol - Beer, Wine, Liquor.
    2.Marijuana - like Beer.
    3.Cocaine - like Liquor; Liquor is a dangerous drug.


    Alcohol is the dangerous drug. No matter the concentration.
    By action it belongs with opiates. Limiting your use is the
    best way to avoid addiction.

    You do not mention Tobacco and nicotine which are dangerous
    and highly poisonous drugs, very addictive by any route. A
    water extract of tobacco can be used as an insecticide and
    a single cigarette probably contains enough for serious harm
    to a human being.

    Cocaine depending on form and dosage is not addictive but
    again addictive personalities get addicted.
    Coco tea which contains along with cocaine many other
    substances found in the coco leaf.
    Marijuana which contains THC and other substances can
    be quite habituating but it does not mess up your breathing
    reflexes as do alcohol and opiates along with a lot of the
    modern tranquilizers and barbituates.
    A note in Europe a few years like 20 or so back it
    was common in Europe to mix hashish a derivative of marijuana
    with tobacco. Then the addiction was ascribed to hashish when
    it was related to tobacco.
    I used to write to people a lot about that.

    Aspirin is dangerous to many people and if overdoses are
    taken can lead to gastric bleeding and to sensitivity to future
    use of salicyclates of which it is one.

    Then there is Caffeine which I cannot use in useful
    amounts but which is a drug with specific effects and which in
    combination with tobacco can cause serious problems.

    Chocolate contains very little caffeine, some theobromine
    and lots of calories. I use it a fair amount.


    For spirituality or meditation, non-addictive:
    4.Psychedelics - Mushrooms, Ayuhauasca, DMT, Salvia, Acid.

    Study Meditation before you use such. Do some
    reading in scriptures of your religion. You fail
    to mention Lysergic Acid Di-ethyamide using acid which
    is not a proper name. You leave out Mescaline which
    can be derived from San Pedro cactus by water extraction.
    Don't use peyote which is endangered due to hippie harvesting
    in the deserts of the Southwest and in Mexico.


    On the line or over:
    5.Ecstasy - Molly.

    Well pure Ecstasy is not too bad but all street drugs
    are not subject to true and reliable quality control.

    6.Amphetamines - Speed, Crystal Meth.

    Dextroamphetamine su;phate is not particular addiction but
    if you have an addictive personality you will probably get addicted.
    Smoking or shooting up with this stuff is self-destructive.


    Batshit crazy:
    7.PCP - Angel Dust.
    8.Opiates - Codeine, Morphine, Oxycontin, Heroin, Fentanyl.

    Not so bad if you have pain but only when you have
    serious physical pain.


    9.Benzodiazapines/Barbituates - Valium - not a party drug.

    "Uppers and downers are bad for you" to quote a song from the
    late 1960s
    10.Huffing - 20 paints and solvents.

    Deprive your brain cells of oxygen and can cause
    long term changes.

    You don't want to inhale nor inject potent drugs.  Hence Crack is way
    worse than Cocaine, and belongs in the batshit crazy category.

    Crack, Crystal Meth, Fentanyl, Heroin, are products of the Drug War. Prohibition moves potency.  Alcohol prohibition moved liqour, not beer
    and wine.  These drugs wouldn't be for sale as more than insane
    novelties, like Everclear, if Cocaine, and Speed, and Morphine were available.  No one drinks Everclear, nor 151 Rum.

    I used to drink 151 but I stopped when my throat was
    sore. That is why I stopped smoking cannabis or its derivatives.

    People know nothing about drugs.  About weapons.  About sex.  About
    living in a vehicle or tent.  AND JUDGE.  AND HIRE MURDERERS, TO MURDER
    ALL FOUR!

    That depends on the persons you are talking about.
    More people now than ever before know about Sex and Drugs.
    More people not than for many years know about living in tents
    and weapons.


    THEY ARE WRONG.
    THEY ARE ILLEGAL.
    FUCK THAT.
    FUCK THEM.

    BRING THE USA TO JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It is a big nation and won't fit in the defendants space.
    We are slowly reforming it and young people will have to continue
    to work at that for the next Century probably. I was born in
    1937 the year that Cannabis products were illegalized because no
    one was paying attention to the doctors and science. I have tried
    to work on this for the last 60 years or so since I read the book
    by Mezz Mezzrow a Jewish Jazz Musician and dealer to the jazz
    babies of the 1930s "Really The Blues"

    Adopt a calmer tone with less use of endless Upper case
    letter and explantion points. Point out how people will benefit
    by not treating the homeless and drug users(not abusers) as their
    fellow human beings.

    bliss - a retired nurse in San Francisco

    "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
    It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
    the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
    It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
    --from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Sun Oct 10 18:09:09 2021
    Well you are wrong in many respects but not as wrong as
    you could be,

    You forget to mention Aspirin which is a very common drug that
    is favored by some suicidal people.
    Of course I have a hate on aspirin since I OD while feverish\
    and ended up sensitive to it. But it is very dangerous far more so
    than cannabis in most forms

    But you leave out the true gateway drug to all the huffing
    and vaping and that is TOBACCO, super addictive and deadly eventually.





    o Monday

    Hydrochorothiazi
    On 10/10/21 14:07, Intelligent Party wrote:
    Drugs OUGHT *NOT* be marketed as recreation!  Drugs OUGHT *NOT* be
    marketed as party-fun!

    Drugs OUGHT BE marketed as over-the-counter poison, because that's what
    they are!

    Poison!

    Drugs OUGHT BE marketed as over-the-counter MEDICINE by permission
    ONLY!  Like Advil!

    BUT, ALL DRUGS OUGHT TO BE FOR SALE ON DEMAND, SOMEHOW!  THEY OUGHT TO
    BE, AND ANYONE DISAGREEING WITH THIS, IS WRONG!

    WRONG!

    WRONG!

    WRONG!

    GUILTY!

    YOU ARE GUILTY DEA!  YOU ARE GUILTY JUDGE!  GUILTY!  YOU ARE GUILTY POLITICIAN WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME!  YOU ARE GUILTY VOTER WHO DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME!  GUILTY! GUILTY LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO MURDER THE JEWS, AND GUILTY LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO ENSLAVE THE BLACKS!  THE LAW IS REAL.  THE
    LAW IS SCIENCE.  THE LAW IS NOT THE MAKE-BELIEVE OF A DICTATOR, BE HE A VOTER OR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE!  CHOOSE FREEDOM OR BE GUILTY!

    okay, so back to what I was saying anyway,

    You can't LEGALLY sell snake oil as a cure for cancer.  You can only say "snake oil is a cure for cancer," if you *don't* sell it; and you can
    only sell snake oil as the useless snake oil it is! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil

    Capitalism wants to sell you NOTHING: - a Star, land on Mars, Hawaiian
    sea water,
    and Capitalism wants to sell you something, that hurts you - Drugs! Capitalism just wants to profit, hence CONSUMER PROTECTIONS, and
    EMPLOYEE PROTECTIONS - regulation of commerce - have merit!


    But it's my body, my Spraypaint, and my right to huff it!  God damn it!

    God damn it!

    It's my glue!

    MY PROPERTY!!!

    You have a right to possess property.  You don't have a right to larceny
    - that is, intent to deprive another of stolen property.  Hence you do
    not have a right, to knowingly possess stolen property.  Current
    statutes are supposed to be based on such common law, legal principles.
    Not on malarkey.

    Prohibitions of possession, hang on the notion that there is no right to possess property, and this is an abject LIE.


    Also, it'd be drugs which are a mental impediment, and likely to be frivolously used, that should be sold out of sight, out of mind.  All
    drugs ought to be for sale on demand, over the counter, somehow.  AS
    POISON!

    Who passed these drug laws, and infringed upon OUR RIGHT TO SELF-PRESCRIPTION?! Both infringements are ABJECT, HORRIBLE, HORRIFYING; CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.  Our right to self-prescribe is legal and
    just.  Our right to own drugs, and use them, is a fact.  It's my body,
    and my spray paint, and my right to huff it; though I don't.

    Those who passed these drug laws, are mad scientists, crazies and
    criminals, perhaps the self-condemning.  We should not be bound by the idiots of yesterday.
    "The world belongs usufruct to the living." - Thomas Jefferson, 1789


    Drugs with habit potential ought to be distributed in a separate part of
    the store, BEHIND A CURTAIN, or through a SEPARATE NUMBER-ONLY, MARKED ENTRANCE.
    DISTRIBUTING HABITUAL USE DRUGS - OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND, will help
    reduce recidivist use among those willing to stop.

    No one believes that drugs are wrong; because DRUGS ARE NOT WRONG!
    DRUGS ARE BAD!

    Drugs with potential for recreational use, ought to carry instructions, saying: "this is a poisonous drug, not intended for recreational use.
    However if you use recreationally, it is superior to use in this manner:"

    For every day you use a drug, don't use it for three.  If you've been
    using daily, quit for two months, and go back to this max use.  This is
    use, rather than abuse.  Twice per month is better, and is the way most
    sane people party.  If you drink liquor merely three nights per week,
    you will seriously become an alcoholic.  25 million people are
    alcoholics in America and drink 10 or more drinks per day. This is 1/2 a fifth.  140 million more merely use.  More serious alcoholics drink 1 to two fifths per day, that's 25-50 drinks!  A few, a handle, that's 60!

    Drugs are actually A SOCIAL IMPEDIMENT, and A MENTAL IMPEDIMENT.
    There's a marginal benefit, such as there is to riding roller coasters.
    But who rides roller coasters more than four times per year?  And who thought roller coasters, or a movie, were very social?!

    Additionally, drugs use up all your good feelings at once, or numb your
    bad feelings!

    Classes of drugs in my mind:

    1.Alcohol - Beer, Wine, Liquor.
    2.Marijuana - like Beer.
    3.Cocaine - like Liquor; Liquor is a dangerous drug.

    For spirituality or meditation, non-addictive:
    4.Psychedelics - Mushrooms, Ayuhauasca, DMT, Salvia, Acid.

    On the line or over:
    5.Ecstasy - Molly.
    6.Amphetamines - Speed, Crystal Meth.

    Batshit crazy:
    7.PCP - Angel Dust.
    8.Opiates - Codeine, Morphine, Oxycontin, Heroin, Fentanyl. 9.Benzodiazapines/Barbituates - Valium - not a party drug.
    10.Huffing - 20 paints and solvents.

    You don't want to inhale nor inject potent drugs.  Hence Crack is way
    worse than Cocaine, and belongs in the batshit crazy category.

    Crack, Crystal Meth, Fentanyl, Heroin, are products of the Drug War. Prohibition moves potency.  Alcohol prohibition moved liqour, not beer
    and wine.  These drugs wouldn't be for sale as more than insane
    novelties, like Everclear, if Cocaine, and Speed, and Morphine were available.  No one drinks Everclear, nor 151 Rum.

    People know nothing about drugs.  About weapons.  About sex.  About
    living in a vehicle or tent.  AND JUDGE.  AND HIRE MURDERERS, TO MURDER
    ALL FOUR!

    THEY ARE WRONG.
    THEY ARE ILLEGAL.
    FUCK THAT.
    FUCK THEM.

    BRING THE USA TO JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What do think is happening to the USA now with a large proportion of the population thinking that Tump won in 2020?
    This is the result of all the lying done to the people by every
    administration since WW II and before.



    bliss - Your tag lines (k) were stolen!
    (more) There is a puff of smoke!

    Quaff a potion of See Invisible.
    Smeagol is at it again.
    Quaff a potion of Speed.
    Pretend you haven't seen him.
    Wait a turn until he tries for these lines.
    Then smite him with your enchanted dagger...

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