"Frank" wrote in message news:njq0k7$olh$1@dont-email.me...
Similar to the heroin problem where current solution is to get out more OD >> kits.
Why don't they just sell methadone over-the-counter...
On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 16:50:17 -0400, Mr. B1ack <nowhere@nada.net>
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:45:27 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:
"Frank" wrote in message news:njq0k7$olh$1@dont-email.me...
Similar to the heroin problem where current solution is to get out more OD >>>> kits.
Why don't they just sell methadone over-the-counter...
People get high on methadone. Unfortunately they
also get very dead on methadone. Janis Joplin
reportedly OD'd on it amongst other notables.
She od'd on heroin.
The
problem is that the dosage range that gets you high
isn't all that far off from the dosage that kills. Heroin
is actually safer in that respect. Fentanyl is another
narrow-range narcotic ... which nailed Prince.
Time to just end the 'drug war'. X-percent are gonna
be stonies pretty much no matter what and that's that.
No point in funding huge crime organizations, corrupting
cops and officials, funding the companies that provide
expensive drug-war-fighting stuff. No point in turning
stonies into criminals who have to skulk in the darkest
corners of society while the drunks are free to stumble
down the street to the nearest bar. No point in fueling
street-level gangs that massacre each other and anyone
who gets in the way like it was the 1920s. No point in
corrupting constitutional protections of due process,
evidence-gathering and rational sentencing either.
There are also some annoying cultural/racial/class bias
issues involved that shouldn't exist.
The real problem is our drug orientated society. Americans are by far
the biggest users of prescription meds in general and opioids in
particular. This modern heroin epidemic isn't driven by "stonies" who
just want to get high, it's driven by pain patients whose
prescriptions have been cut off and resort to black market opioids. Eventually they get to heroin - the mother of all opioids
Most stonies CAN do stuff ... even if it's just working
at the Circle-K ... but the current environment makes
that almost impossible, leaving them nothing but a
life of crime to survive on.
So just DROP the damned drug war. Clean dope in
measured strengths for realistic prices ... and 99%
of the "drug problem" and its ludicrous, pointless,
expense will just disappear. Tax on the sales can go
to programs for people who get tired of being stonies.
So who's FOR the drug war ? Corrupt cops and pols
and mind-everybodys-business neo-puritans For
everyone else the negatives greatly exceed any benifits.
I agree with your assessment of the drug war - it certainly has failed miserably - but there are real problems with simply selling dope over
the counter. For one thing, the number of users would jump sharply.
Opioid addiction would skyrocket.
Our best long term solution is to learn to treat pain and illness
without addictive medications.
Swill
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:45:27 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:
"Frank" wrote in message news:njq0k7$olh$1@dont-email.me...
Similar to the heroin problem where current solution is to get out more OD >>> kits.
Why don't they just sell methadone over-the-counter...
People get high on methadone. Unfortunately they
also get very dead on methadone. Janis Joplin
reportedly OD'd on it amongst other notables.
The
problem is that the dosage range that gets you high
isn't all that far off from the dosage that kills. Heroin
is actually safer in that respect. Fentanyl is another
narrow-range narcotic ... which nailed Prince.
Time to just end the 'drug war'. X-percent are gonna
be stonies pretty much no matter what and that's that.
No point in funding huge crime organizations, corrupting
cops and officials, funding the companies that provide
expensive drug-war-fighting stuff. No point in turning
stonies into criminals who have to skulk in the darkest
corners of society while the drunks are free to stumble
down the street to the nearest bar. No point in fueling
street-level gangs that massacre each other and anyone
who gets in the way like it was the 1920s. No point in
corrupting constitutional protections of due process,
evidence-gathering and rational sentencing either.
There are also some annoying cultural/racial/class bias
issues involved that shouldn't exist.
Most stonies CAN do stuff ... even if it's just working
at the Circle-K ... but the current environment makes
that almost impossible, leaving them nothing but a
life of crime to survive on.
So just DROP the damned drug war. Clean dope in
measured strengths for realistic prices ... and 99%
of the "drug problem" and its ludicrous, pointless,
expense will just disappear. Tax on the sales can go
to programs for people who get tired of being stonies.
So who's FOR the drug war ? Corrupt cops and pols
and mind-everybodys-business neo-puritans For
everyone else the negatives greatly exceed any benifits.
On 6/20/2016 9:45 AM, Governor Swill is a paid Dem operative from
Hotlanta who lives in gay coven.
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:45:27 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:
"Frank" wrote in message news:njq0k7$olh$1@dont-email.me...
Similar to the heroin problem where current solution is to get out more OD >>> kits.
Why don't they just sell methadone over-the-counter...
People get high on methadone. Unfortunately they
also get very dead on methadone. Janis Joplin
reportedly OD'd on it amongst other notables. The
problem is that the dosage range that gets you high
isn't all that far off from the dosage that kills. Heroin
is actually safer in that respect. Fentanyl is another
narrow-range narcotic ... which nailed Prince.
Time to just end the 'drug war'. X-percent are gonna
be stonies pretty much no matter what and that's that.
No point in funding huge crime organizations, corrupting
cops and officials, funding the companies that provide
expensive drug-war-fighting stuff. No point in turning
stonies into criminals who have to skulk in the darkest
corners of society while the drunks are free to stumble
down the street to the nearest bar. No point in fueling
street-level gangs that massacre each other and anyone
who gets in the way like it was the 1920s. No point in
corrupting constitutional protections of due process,
evidence-gathering and rational sentencing either.
There are also some annoying cultural/racial/class bias
issues involved that shouldn't exist.
Most stonies CAN do stuff ... even if it's just working
at the Circle-K ... but the current environment makes
that almost impossible, leaving them nothing but a
life of crime to survive on.
So just DROP the damned drug war. Clean dope in
measured strengths for realistic prices ... and 99%
of the "drug problem" and its ludicrous, pointless,
expense will just disappear. Tax on the sales can go
to programs for people who get tired of being stonies.
So who's FOR the drug war ? Corrupt cops and pols
and mind-everybodys-business neo-puritans For
everyone else the negatives greatly exceed any benifits.
Fight for America! <fight@damn.you> wrote:
On 6/20/2016 9:45 AM, Governor Swill is a paid Dem operative from
Hotlanta who lives in gay coven.
What are you, his roommate?
--
Nothing more fun than fucking with a right winger
Fight for America! <fight@damn.you> wrote:
On 6/20/2016 9:45 AM, Governor Swill is a paid Dem operative from
Hotlanta who lives in gay coven.
What are you, his roommate?
Amen to all of that. Legalize, regulate and tax all of it. If people could >get it legally through a licensed physician, they wouldn't have to go to
some asshole on the street who's just trying to raise money for his own >drugs. People's lives are being ruined for no other reason than they had a >weak moment at some point. What's the difference between the drunk and the >opioid addict when they both pass out in a park? The real answer is,
nothing. But the opioid addict gets a felony conviction and can't get a job >while the drunk gets a pat on the back from his friends.
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