• Eight European nations pause AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccinations a

    From Malte Runz@21:1/5 to spam_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au on Mon Mar 15 19:36:21 2021
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    On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 09:22:05 +1100, "Andrew W"
    <spam_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

    "Andrew" wrote in message news:f%b3I.57959$W%q8.2605@fx36.ams4...

    "Andrew W" <spam_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message >>news:s2i5hb$4ga$1@dont-email.me...

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-11-europe-pauses-astrazeneca-coronavirus-vaccinations-blood-clots.html


    At least eight countries in Europe have suspended all administration of
    Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) vaccines from AstraZeneca and
    the University of Oxford after dozens of recipients developed “serious”
    blood clots post-injection.

    The European Medicines Agency (EMA), Europe’s equivalent of the U.S. Food >>> and Drug Administration (FDA), confirmed that no fewer
    than 30 patients who received AstraZeneca’s China virus jab suffered this >>> adverse outcome. At least one of the cases, in Denmark,
    resulted in death.

    “This AstraZeneca story isn’t getting enough attention,” tweeted
    ForexLive. “It’s going to undermine vaccine takeup. If people are
    dying it’s a disaster for the company too.”

    It is apparent from this tweet that ForexLive is more concerned about the >>> profits of AstraZeneca than it is about people’s lives.
    ForexLive is also more worried about other people refusing vaccination
    based on the news than it is about the people who already
    did get vaccinated and are now suffering.

    Denmark, Norway, Estonia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Latvia, Italy and
    Iceland have halted administration of the vaccine due to this
    deadly side effect. At least two cases of blood clots were reported in
    Austria as well, however that country is still
    administering the vaccine, at least for now.

    Do you know of any reports of adverse effects from the Russian, or Chinese >>vaxxes?

    I haven't heard much from those two countries but I do believe that the >Russian vaccine at least is most likely not from the big drug companies and >is a more natural type of therapy. ...

    You have absolutely no information to base your opinion on, other than
    your bias against any- and everything coming from "big drug
    companies".

    And what is "a more natural type of therapy" anyway? Remote healing?


    ... Some other countries are doing the same
    with success and little side effects if any.

    When you administer more than 5 million doses of a vaccine you're
    bound to have examples of correlation between receiving a vaccine and
    a medical incident immediately afterwards. Proving a causal relation
    is a different thing. Maybe the people died because they were wearing
    leather shoes that day. Ever think of that?

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    Malte Runz

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  • From Andrew W@21:1/5 to Malte Runz on Tue Mar 16 09:02:08 2021
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    "Malte Runz" wrote in message news:88av4gtejp7h3p97gn3kctcmsb769a630h@4ax.com...

    On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 09:22:05 +1100, "Andrew W" ><spam_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

    "Andrew" wrote in message news:f%b3I.57959$W%q8.2605@fx36.ams4...

    "Andrew W" <spam_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message >>>news:s2i5hb$4ga$1@dont-email.me...

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-11-europe-pauses-astrazeneca-coronavirus-vaccinations-blood-clots.html


    At least eight countries in Europe have suspended all administration of >>>> Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) vaccines from AstraZeneca and
    the University of Oxford after dozens of recipients developed “serious”
    blood clots post-injection.

    The European Medicines Agency (EMA), Europe’s equivalent of the U.S. >>>> Food
    and Drug Administration (FDA), confirmed that no fewer
    than 30 patients who received AstraZeneca’s China virus jab suffered >>>> this
    adverse outcome. At least one of the cases, in Denmark,
    resulted in death.

    “This AstraZeneca story isn’t getting enough attention,” tweeted >>>> ForexLive. “It’s going to undermine vaccine takeup. If people are
    dying it’s a disaster for the company too.”

    It is apparent from this tweet that ForexLive is more concerned about
    the
    profits of AstraZeneca than it is about people’s lives.
    ForexLive is also more worried about other people refusing vaccination >>>> based on the news than it is about the people who already
    did get vaccinated and are now suffering.

    Denmark, Norway, Estonia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Latvia, Italy and
    Iceland have halted administration of the vaccine due to this
    deadly side effect. At least two cases of blood clots were reported in >>>> Austria as well, however that country is still
    administering the vaccine, at least for now.

    Do you know of any reports of adverse effects from the Russian, or >>>Chinese
    vaxxes?

    I haven't heard much from those two countries but I do believe that the >>Russian vaccine at least is most likely not from the big drug companies
    and
    is a more natural type of therapy. ...

    You have absolutely no information to base your opinion on, other than
    your bias against any- and everything coming from "big drug
    companies".

    And what is "a more natural type of therapy" anyway? Remote healing?


    ... Some other countries are doing the same
    with success and little side effects if any.

    When you administer more than 5 million doses of a vaccine you're
    bound to have examples of correlation between receiving a vaccine and
    a medical incident immediately afterwards.


    Doctors have an oath, “first, do no harm”. A properly tested vaccine shouldn't cause any disabilities or deaths. Obviously it wasn't tested. They lied and you believed them.


    Proving a causal relation
    is a different thing. Maybe the people died because they were wearing
    leather shoes that day. Ever think of that?


    No, you are completely ignorant of the subject, just listening to the drug companies, their mouthpiece the MSM, and their pier reviewers and paid
    testers.
    You only question one side. It seems you are prejudiced against the little people and only want to rely on big name authorities for all convenient
    truths.

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  • From Malte Runz@21:1/5 to spam_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au on Tue Mar 16 11:20:28 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.politics.usa.misc, talk.politics.medicine

    On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 09:02:08 +1100, "Andrew W"
    <spam_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

    "Malte Runz" wrote in message >news:88av4gtejp7h3p97gn3kctcmsb769a630h@4ax.com...

    On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 09:22:05 +1100, "Andrew W" >><spam_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

    "Andrew" wrote in message news:f%b3I.57959$W%q8.2605@fx36.ams4...

    "Andrew W" <spam_ajwerner@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message >>>>news:s2i5hb$4ga$1@dont-email.me...

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-11-europe-pauses-astrazeneca-coronavirus-vaccinations-blood-clots.html


    At least eight countries in Europe have suspended all administration of >>>>> Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) vaccines from AstraZeneca and
    the University of Oxford after dozens of recipients developed “serious” >>>>> blood clots post-injection.

    The European Medicines Agency (EMA), Europe’s equivalent of the U.S. >>>>> Food
    and Drug Administration (FDA), confirmed that no fewer
    than 30 patients who received AstraZeneca’s China virus jab suffered >>>>> this
    adverse outcome. At least one of the cases, in Denmark,
    resulted in death.

    “This AstraZeneca story isn’t getting enough attention,” tweeted
    ForexLive. “It’s going to undermine vaccine takeup. If people are
    dying it’s a disaster for the company too.”

    It is apparent from this tweet that ForexLive is more concerned about >>>>> the
    profits of AstraZeneca than it is about people’s lives.
    ForexLive is also more worried about other people refusing vaccination >>>>> based on the news than it is about the people who already
    did get vaccinated and are now suffering.

    Denmark, Norway, Estonia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Latvia, Italy and
    Iceland have halted administration of the vaccine due to this
    deadly side effect. At least two cases of blood clots were reported in >>>>> Austria as well, however that country is still
    administering the vaccine, at least for now.

    Do you know of any reports of adverse effects from the Russian, or >>>>Chinese
    vaxxes?

    I haven't heard much from those two countries but I do believe that the >>>Russian vaccine at least is most likely not from the big drug companies >>>and
    is a more natural type of therapy. ...

    You have absolutely no information to base your opinion on, other than
    your bias against any- and everything coming from "big drug
    companies".

    And what is "a more natural type of therapy" anyway? Remote healing?


    ... Some other countries are doing the same
    with success and little side effects if any.

    When you administer more than 5 million doses of a vaccine you're
    bound to have examples of correlation between receiving a vaccine and
    a medical incident immediately afterwards.


    Doctors have an oath, “first, do no harm”. A properly tested vaccine >shouldn't cause any disabilities or deaths. ...

    There is always a risk that individuals will have individual reaction
    to having something injected into their system. The only completely
    side-effect free product is homeopathic remedies, and we all know why.


    ... Obviously it wasn't tested. ...

    Of course it was. The information is available, and you can "do your
    own research".

    You could start here:
    https://tinyurl.com/8axcfkjd
    but then again, I know you'll dismiss it all off-handedly with a 'they
    are part of Big They and only the gullible masses will trust anything
    they say!'.


    ... They
    lied and you believed them.

    Prove that they lied.



    Proving a causal relation
    is a different thing. Maybe the people died because they were wearing >>leather shoes that day. Ever think of that?


    No, you are completely ignorant of the subject, ...

    I bet I know more about all this than you do. How many articles and
    papers on the subject have you read that didn't claim in the headline
    that 'vaccines are evil and kill people!'? You talk about "a more
    natural type of therapy" above, but you have no explanation as to what
    it is. It's all buzz words, and it's all you have. That and 'Big
    Pharma bad!!!!'.


    ... just listening to the drug
    companies, their mouthpiece the MSM, and their pier reviewers and paid >testers.

    I don't know how much the volunteers were paid. Do you?

    You only question one side. ...

    You consistently reject everything coming from one side and accept
    everything coming from the other. You're the one who is totally
    biased.


    ... It seems you are prejudiced against the little
    people ...

    Do you see yourself as one of "the little people"? That could explain
    a lot, actually.

    ... and only want to rely on big name authorities for all convenient
    truths.

    Boy, do you love to blow your strawman in public!

    --
    Malte Runz

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