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    From Contact@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Fri Jun 5 18:55:51 2020
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    On 6/5/2020 5:54 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:
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  • From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Sun Jun 7 02:07:26 2020
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    On 5/29/2020 7:44 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    Inputs are based on Yesterday's data (though a weekly or biweekly average would be
    more accurate) from
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
    Click "Yesterday" button

    Spreadsheet: https://docs.zoho.com/embed/cs6eab29f117fec84421c9c13fb84913ab066

    INPUTS:
    Daily New Infection Rate: (1,127/132,999) = .00847 or .847%
    Active Cases: 132,999
    Days from Infection to Recovery: 30 - Assumption (Entered)


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  • From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Sun Jun 7 02:08:00 2020
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    On 5/29/2020 9:29 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    Inputs are based on Yesterday's data (though a weekly or biweekly average would be
    more accurate), from
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
    Click "Yesterday" button

    Spreadsheet: https://docs.zoho.com/embed/cs6eab29f117fec84421c9c13fb84913ab066

    INPUTS:
    Daily New Infection Rate: (25,069/1,169,419) = .021437 or 2.1437%
    Active Cases: 1,169,419
    Days from Infection to Recovery: 30 - Assumption (Entered)


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    In the future, (according to the spreadsheet in 97 days) if Texas has 2,000,000
    Active Cases at 6.5%, and 130,000 New Cases Daily instead of 1,336, its new cases
    will make up a larger percentage of the total new cases of the nation as a whole,
    raising the Nation's Daily New Infection Rate, above the Assumed Recovery Rate of
    3.33%.
    (Recovery rate is a blank assumption, 30 days from infection to recovery, (100%/30
    = 3.33% daily)).

    When looked at for all States, New York was the best, California was about directly in the middle, and Texas was one of the worst. You would have to get a
    weekly or biweekly average to be entirely accurate, and that takes 5-10+ minutes
    time for every State. We can look at every state by the day, and that takes 1-2
    minutes per State. A more expeditious spreadsheet could be developed possibly.

    If you put in today's Texas' numbers, the spreadsheet shows, Texas will have 100,000 Active Cases in 37 days, and 6,500 New Cases Daily.

    This, and if worse going forward, will obviously change the face of the Nation's
    COVID Infection. Whereas 1 month ago, U.S. daily New Cases were 30,000, today
    they are 20,000, and according to Nationwide data, at a 2.14% Daily Infection Rate
    Increase, the spreadsheet shows 10,000 New Cases Daily, in just 38 days.

    If Texas were to go to 100% infected, there would be 1,949,385 Daily New Cases on
    the very last day to reach 29 million cases (day 151) at 6.5%.


    [[(29,671,004 Active Cases on day 151 [Cell G159 is calculated by adding the previous days 28,234,632 active cases to 1,855,015 New Cases Daily on those active
    cases at that rate, and subtracting 418,643, Recovered New Cases from Day 120 [Cell F128], 31 days ago, since the 31st day denotes the situation at the end of
    the 30th day. In actuality, some 42,000 people have already recovered already
    today in Texas on 5/29/2020, as Total Cases today is some 62,000, to some 20,000
    Active, and day 120's 418,643 Cases would also be recovered, as well as every day
    before that. To make the numbers work, the model was not developed that extensively, as it didn't seem worth the cost of time. I'm doing this for free. I
    just added up all those active cases that would have recovered from day 120 and
    before, and it equals 8,626,554. So Texas would never actually have 29,000,000
    ACTIVE Cases before its TOTAL Cases reached its terminal value of 29,000,000 Population. Go figure. (You can about confirm this with Row 153, Column D: 29,878,063 Total Cases, vs. Column G: 22,030,868 Active Cases.)]]

    Web archive of this data/date: https://web.archive.org/web/20200530040751/https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

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  • From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Sun Jun 7 02:09:08 2020
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    On 6/3/2020 10:30 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    you got that right..?


    On 6/3/2020 10:11 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    on May 14th, from a man who tried to focus more on it in January 2020,
    while others paid him little heed:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NDnc8YY674
    "On May 14, 2020 Bright testified before the Health Subcommittee of the House
    Committee on Energy and Commerce. In a written statement issued the day before, he
    warned that 2020 could be "the darkest winter in modern history" if the country
    does not undertake a vigorous response to fight the virus. "Our window of
    opportunity is closing. If we fail to develop a national coordinated response,
    based in science, I fear the pandemic will get far worse and be prolonged, causing
    unprecedented illness and fatalities," he said."

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  • From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Sun Jun 7 02:10:07 2020
    XPost: alt.politics.congress, alt.politics.usa.constitution, alt.politics.obama XPost: alt.politics.libertarian, alt.activism.d

    On 6/4/2020 1:31 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    New Cases
    Average Per, Total,
    Week, Day by Week, Cases For Week

    3/1-3/7 13 Per Day, 88 Total for week
    3/8-3/14 35 Per Day, 247 Total for week
    3/15-3/21 162 Per Day, 1,333 Total for week, Stay-At-Home Order
    3/22-3/28 454 Per Day, 3,175 Total for week
    3/29-4/4 1,256 Per Day, 8,795 Total for week
    4/5-4/11 1,194 Per Day, 8,356 Total for week
    4/12-4/18 1,220 Per Day, 8,539 Total for week
    4/19-4/25 1,690 Per Day, 11,831 Total for week
    4/26-5/2 1,636 Per Day, 11,452 Total for week, Decrease
    5/3-5/9 1,866 Per Day, 13,064 Total for week
    5/10-5/16 1,737 Per Day, 12,159 Total for week, Decrease
    5/17-5/23 1,982 Per Day, 13,871 Total for week
    5/24-5/30 2,553 Per Day, 17,873 Total for week

    It seems likely this upward trend will sadly and certainly continue!

    Total,
    13 Weeks 1,215 Per Day, 110,583 Total for 91 Days

    Only Last,
    9 Weeks 1,682 Per Day, 105,940 Total for 63 Days

    Data is from:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_California

    Look, I did this myself. Professionals would have another person double check it.
    If you care, maybe you should, or get an accountant.

    Spreadsheet you can use for projections: https://docs.zoho.com/embed/cs6eab29f117fec84421c9c13fb84913ab066
    You would want to calculate the Rate of Daily New Infections on Active Cases per
    day, for the last week or two, by the day, and average that. Rather than just
    dividing the average per the week, by the current Active. My current data sources
    are insufficient. Wikipedia doesn't even say how many are active. Worldometer
    only has active for California for the current day, no history. I tried https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/tree/master/csse_covid_19_data for "USA
    daily state reports" to construct my own data set, but it doesn't have Recovered
    for California as listed. It does for other States. For California it just has
    all Total, and Active as minus Deaths. Worldometer on the other hand reports about 20% as Recovered, and only 86,421 of 115,119 as Active with 4,287 deaths. I
    emailed them for historical data and source. Suffice to say, there must be no
    analysts analyzing COVID, and all their fancy graphs may be for not. It shouldn't
    be a big deal to get a simple accounting of the facts. But apparently unintelligence is extreme.

    If we do not have a forbearance on all debt and rent, and $1,250 for every man
    woman and child for the time of COVID plus one year following to get the economy
    moving, I predict catastrophe.

    Consider the people with money have little luxury to spend that extra money on,
    and will save it, and you can increase taxes at the top in the future. You have
    no idea what or who needs at the bottom. Someone with a $3,000 per month mortgage
    on top of living expenses, still needs a forbearance or will loose their home.
    They can not go to work or they will die. An Economic Pause, and not a Great Depression is in order, and it is wrong for businesses to fail to COVID, when they
    truly have economically viable assets. That is not the free market, that is madness.

    COVID is not gone, and is not going away without 4-12 months of temperance, but an
    economic meltdown is unnecessary and insane. I suggest keeping all "stay-at-home"
    advice in place, while removing the legal technicalities, except for violating
    other's personal space. Clarify it to be "stay-at-home-from-work."

    Those people demonstrating are demonstrating pretty extreme for a cop who's been
    charged. The L.A. riots many years ago was because they were acquitted. This
    stuff makes no sense, and what are their demands and grievances. Without money
    for everybody and a forbearance I wouldn't be surprised with war in the future. I
    pray I'm wrong. But people deserve money. Demand, Grievance, Target, Objective
    should be the motto of any such interested parties, but people with nothing to
    loose and nothing to live for, don't even care if their war effort is doomed to
    failure. Those who attack are poor. I suggest a different tactic to save our
    United States.

    Suffice to say, things are highly insufficient, and we need things improving, if
    without threats or acts of violence, by the oppressive, or the lawless, not getting worse.

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  • From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Sat Sep 4 12:37:16 2021
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    On 5/23/2021 12:50 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    All a police officer has to do, is ask do if someone has any malintentions with
    these weapons? If "no," they are 100% legal.

    It's just simply not wrong to possess a weapon. It's not wrong as a matter of
    fact and scientific unadulterated truth. Possession of weapons is not wrong. It's
    fact. Those who believe democracy authors the law, don't believe in the law at
    all, so how can they advocate such law? They believe in democracy, but not in the
    law. And why would one believe in democracy, or the republic, and not science,
    truth, god and man?

    "Thug life" is what anti-gunners validly have a grievance against. "Thug life"
    writes songs about blowing each other away, echoing their un-civilization, whilst
    glorifying it. So the valid grievance would be to persecute gangsters who have
    guns, if malintent is what it is. Then, it's not legal to be in a gang, and you
    could persecute gangsters period for their malintent, but you could persecute gangsters who have guns all the more. But if people don't have malintentions,
    possession of weapons is not illegal. They can be very upstanding advocates of
    liberty, respect and justice, and have all the guns in the world - in their car.
    It's like bolt cutters and lock picking sets are 100% legal, unless one's caught
    with them in a "Catsuit" at 1:00am or there's suspicion of malintention. Gainfully
    employed people don't commit petty burglary, and their bolt cutters and lock picking sets are generally not suspicious. Same with terrorists and gasoline. We
    all have gasoline, but terrorists are suspected of malintention, while good people
    drive around with extra gasoline cans on the back of their Jeeps. So if you agree
    with this legal theory of malintention by itself being enough to condemn for crime. Otherwise there's nothing at all, and you'll have to find holistic solutions, - increase the wealth, decrease the population, share the poverty equally.

    Massacres have nothing to do with it, are 100% a red herring, are committed by
    poor unemployed upset students, and the like, and merely require a crowd. 100% of
    the people who commit massacres have no criminal record and got their guns before
    mal-activity. Once one commits a massacre, there's not a second offense. Guns,
    vehicles, knives will all do the same for massacres. It's crap to say it's okay
    to ban guns for massacres, because that's a non-argument. It's crap to say it's
    okay to ban guns for no reason, as it's crap to say, it's a crime to be Jewish. It
    truly is prejudice and abhorrent. People who enforce such laws are scum. And I
    don't agree to give my name to buy a gun.

    There is not a right to ban guns for no reason, or because people who bear guns
    are different than you.

    The rules of self-defense and engagement, need to be better identified, but fearing a big man is what fearing a gun is, and anyone can throw rocks at anyone's
    head.

    People do keep and bear guns for sport and hobby. There's nothing wrong with being an aficionado, an enthusiast, or a gun lover. When to use the gun, against
    another person, is the question. Not because they threw popcorn or water on you.



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  • From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Sat Sep 4 12:38:05 2021
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    On 6/26/2021 12:59 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    Re: COVID - It's Your Right To Congregation Is Preeminent, And That Involves Assembly, Church, The Capitol Demonstration And Public Property


    It's not like you have freedom of Assembly except as prescribed by law.

    It's not like the Constitution is just saying your right to freedom of speech and
    your right to bear arms are just a good idea.

    The Constitution is saying you are right, you are legal, and they are wrong, and
    they are illegal, if they prohibit you.

    Yes, you have a right Thanksgiving Dinner too.

    So you fucking monkeys are just going to commit ridiculous acts, and spread COVID,
    and not be on your own recognizances, like people recycle and stand in line without being controlled and coerced to?

    Regulation of commerce - employee and consumer protections, has merit, and is the
    way to control. This also includes product labeling/marketing/advertising control, quality control, and perhaps product bundling. It doesn't include prohibition when there's not a substitute product.

    So do you think you monkeys would be able to only associate only with intimate,
    repetitive, friends and relatives, during COVID, and not throw the gala wedding
    party even if it wasn't commercially provided.

    The stupidest thing would be to be in a room with someone you're not going to talk
    to, for non-essential activities.

    But isn't all valid work essential!? What are we doing it for otherwise?

    Whenever someone speaks to you, they're spewing tiny specks of spit in your face.


    Who has to perfect the law? The person with the valid social grievance, or the
    person with the valid liberty?




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  • From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Thu Oct 21 14:17:46 2021
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    On 5/23/2021 12:50 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    All a police officer has to do, is ask do if someone has any malintentions with
    these weapons? If "no," they are 100% legal.

    It's just simply not wrong to possess a weapon. It's not wrong as a matter of
    fact and scientific unadulterated truth. Possession of weapons is not wrong. It's
    fact. Those who believe democracy authors the law, don't believe in the law at
    all, so how can they advocate such law? They believe in democracy, but not in the
    law. And why would one believe in democracy, or the republic, and not science,
    truth, god and man?

    "Thug life" is what anti-gunners validly have a grievance against. "Thug life"
    writes songs about blowing each other away, echoing their un-civilization, whilst
    glorifying it. So the valid grievance would be to persecute gangsters who have
    guns, if malintent is what it is. Then, it's not legal to be in a gang, and you
    could persecute gangsters period for their malintent, but you could persecute gangsters who have guns all the more. But if people don't have malintentions,
    possession of weapons is not illegal. They can be very upstanding advocates of
    liberty, respect and justice, and have all the guns in the world - in their car.
    It's like bolt cutters and lock picking sets are 100% legal, unless one's caught
    with them in a "Catsuit" at 1:00am or there's suspicion of malintention. Gainfully
    employed people don't commit petty burglary, and their bolt cutters and lock picking sets are generally not suspicious. Same with terrorists and gasoline. We
    all have gasoline, but terrorists are suspected of malintention, while good people
    drive around with extra gasoline cans on the back of their Jeeps. So if you agree
    with this legal theory of malintention by itself being enough to condemn for crime. Otherwise there's nothing at all, and you'll have to find holistic solutions, - increase the wealth, decrease the population, share the poverty equally.

    Massacres have nothing to do with it, are 100% a red herring, are committed by
    poor unemployed upset students, and the like, and merely require a crowd. 100% of
    the people who commit massacres have no criminal record and got their guns before
    mal-activity. Once one commits a massacre, there's not a second offense. Guns,
    vehicles, knives will all do the same for massacres. It's crap to say it's okay
    to ban guns for massacres, because that's a non-argument. It's crap to say it's
    okay to ban guns for no reason, as it's crap to say, it's a crime to be Jewish. It
    truly is prejudice and abhorrent. People who enforce such laws are scum. And I
    don't agree to give my name to buy a gun.

    There is not a right to ban guns for no reason, or because people who bear guns
    are different than you.

    The rules of self-defense and engagement, need to be better identified, but fearing a big man is what fearing a gun is, and anyone can throw rocks at anyone's
    head.

    People do keep and bear guns for sport and hobby. There's nothing wrong with being an aficionado, an enthusiast, or a gun lover. When to use the gun, against
    another person, is the question. Not because they threw popcorn or water on you.



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  • From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Thu Oct 21 14:18:21 2021
    XPost: alt.politics.congress, alt.politics.usa.constitution, alt.politics.obama XPost: alt.politics.libertarian, alt.activism.d

    On 6/26/2021 12:24 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    Selling Contagious Poison, As Food And Recreation, Is My Big Question To America

    Consumers are not even warned?

    Employees are not even informed the job is to get COVID?

    Waiters don't produce equity. After the service is over there is nothing to show
    for it.

    Rather than "Non-Essential Services," "Commercial Entertainment Services" should
    be eliminated.

    People TOIL for others entertainment, and amusement? Work is CREATED this way?

    We let people take this big risk for entertainment which doesn't create any equity?

    At least people in a movie, create a movie we have for 100 years.

    "Commercial Entertainment Services:" I am talking about Broadway, Circuses, Vegas
    Shows, The Opera, Waiters, and Whores.

    If there is a substitute product, such as take-out for dine-in, then total prohibition may be alright. We should endeavor to not create an illegal market,
    but whores don't produce anything. Sex and property are the mountain between us.
    So the lack of a substitute product seems to go to just whores, and I'm not saying
    we should or shouldn't have them, but I don't agree with punishment.

    Health Clubs are not even close to the same basket as "Commercial Entertainment
    Services."

    Then there's haircuts, pedicures, and gardeners. The work they provide doesn't
    last for long.

    I think I may never hire another waiter in my life. That's not the sort of job I
    like to provide. I understand the Restaurant industry is huge. It is also apparently a huge waste. Do you want to finance more kitchens for quality take-out, or more Restaurants? We can only spend so much, and we don't have property at the bottom. Waiters, rather, should be producing equity, or going to
    school for free. Waiters could be allowed to spend the same without working, and
    it wouldn't do anything at all to the economy, people would just not 'enjoy' waiters.

    The governments would pull poisonous lettuce off the shelves, but there would be
    other lettuce for sale. They pulled Tryptophan, which killed several people, off
    the shelves for ten years, without a substitute product; do you think that was
    wrong? COVID is not just poisonous food for sale at Restaurants; COVID is contagious poisonous food for sale at restaurants. The government prohibits poisonous drugs to be sold as recreational party-fun. COVID is not just poison
    sold as recreational party-fun; COVID is contagious poison sold as recreational
    party-fun.

    Selling contagious poison, as food and recreation, is my big question to America.
    And taking such a big health risk, for entertainment, which doesn't produce any
    equity. But actually my question is why have such "Commercial Entertainment Services" work, allowed in the first place. That's what we want to trade? So the
    waiter can go out to eat, if there ever is a post-COVID? It's not going to make
    us rich. Instead he could produce, and buy, a nicer dinning room table. Rather
    than endless toil.
    (And porn-stars, unlike whores, yet like a table producer, and like a movie star,
    produce a product. Still, the general principle of employment law, is the work
    ought not be unnecessarily dangerous, unnecessarily unsanitary, unnecessarily injurious, nor unnecessarily painful. So, as to professional sports, they only
    sort of produce a product. I doubt they'll start playing flag football in place
    of NFL, or get rid of boxing anytime soon, but the purpose of Ultimate Fighting
    was supposedly to figure out which martial art works best; and have they figured
    that out?, and do we really need Ultimate Fighting? They can keep the bull-fighting in Mexico, or else we'll have dog fighting and cock fighting and
    other such stuff soon here. (Animal cruelty, is not a legal persuasion.) And yet
    these Sports barely produce a product, too; like you watch reruns of the NFL or
    Olympics much. If you want to play High School for free, or intramural, that's
    another matter. But the two issues are: employed to commit self-harm; and, working for other's amusement producing no equity.)

    Making salaries more equitable, could be another way to address the matter. Based
    on the above, you couldn't ever have a servant for a Birthday party, nor a Wedding. Yet still, do you need one? But having to pay more equitably, that is
    every person more equal consumption, for an hour worked; could mean not frivolously employing a waiter, vs. not paying an NFL star to risk his life. While
    we all need to hold equity and savings, we could all consume the same, but some
    person owns the Empire State Building.
    But even with slave labor, Waiters don't build the economy, and a lot of what is
    going on right now *is* about building the economy. At least slaves would build
    real equity. Waiters will not. So while one way of solving the problem could be
    paying more equal consumption per hour worked, thus we would not frivolously employ, nor compel risk taking, for pay, nor high pay, we do need, at the same
    time, to hold capital savings in private hands.

    All the above said; working to commit the self harm of risking COVID, and building
    no equity, while doing so, both at the same time, is really the big issue here.
    There's no argument in my mind that it's ludicrous. Even so, people need jobs,
    but it would be/should be, COVID that put them out of a job, but I guess people
    merely take risks for money, which is serious, when they have no other option.

    It's more the fruits of our Capital, that produces, than our labor. Maybe ex-waiters, and the like, should just have free cash to spend, to a degree. With
    still more incentive than that, to earn, as we need to finance Capital and Intellectual Capital - School, to make the Country yet wealthier.... Perhaps money
    if you're trying to get to School, or are going to school. The Macro-Economy is
    at stake here.

    A movie theater can be run by a few people, serving hundreds. And let's not confuse Commercial Entertainment *Services*, with Commercial Entertainment *Capital*. We do want Big Screen T.V.'s right? For if we went to prohibiting
    Capital, it could be anything... from Children's Toys to Christmas Trees. Anything
    that you enjoy. Still, jewelry made out of Gold is a colossal waste. People die
    mining Gold all day. Costume jewelry may be a sufficient substitute product. (In
    Russia, the waste of the likes of the Faberge Eggs - extremely expensive art -
    contributed the Russian civil war, and over half a century of Marxist Communism,
    which caused the Cold War.)

    Selling contagious poison, as food and recreation, while building no equity, is
    yet my big question to America. The more we study and think about this issue the
    richer we may become. COVID is a new and fairly unstudied topic. As the more you
    analyze, the more you know how to allocate, and the richer you become. What do
    logic, reason, and intelligence ultimately and further dictate? To know, we have
    to think. This is a question so far, if it's not clear.


    "Those who remember always that they know nothing, and who have become willing to
    learn everything, will learn it.
    ...Think not you understand anything until you pass the test of perfect peace" - A
    Course in Miracles

    "My fellow Americans, you're owed nothing less than the truth." - President Joe
    Biden, - March 11, 2021


    How is there non-essential work being done, ever. While "work from home if you
    can" is a great law, and taking all consumer and employee precautions, and protection, is imperative; isn't all work essential?

    Rather than "Non-Essential Services," "Commercial Entertainment Services" and perhaps "Commercial Entertainment Real Estate," should be eliminated.

    If the movie theater were a "public" structure, that could be reserved to show
    your rented movie to hundreds, at least we would be able to use the structure over
    and over, vs. building a movie theater or a football stadium instead of housing.
    Yet the people providing the "non-essential entertainment service" produce no equity whatsoever, and after the waiter's work is done, he goes home having produced NOTHING. No dinning room table to last years. A mere food store in the
    movie theater is notwithstanding.

    So "Public" Entertainment Real Estate," is that still bad? So, do we want "Entertainment Real Estate" at all?

    1. Real Property, 2. Personal Property, 3. Consumption.
    Service is a Consumption, unless it produces Personal Property (or Real Property).
    Consumption is all gone once the work's done. A gardener's work lasts a couple
    weeks. I guess you have memories of a waiter's service.

    Plus, is it really anyone's passion to be a waiter? How about a masseuse, or a
    whore, or are those even more important than haircuts as healthcare, but do people
    want to do it, how about to be in a show, on Broadway or in a play? It's their
    passion? You think it's not work? People should wake up happy every day to work.
    Are these people happy? Don't we want to eliminate _work_? Life is about art,
    and science, and friends.

    Should _art_ be all hobby? You can cook for your friends. Not be enslaved for
    other's entertainment and amusement.


    "The foundation of empire is art and science. Remove them or degrade them, and
    the empire is no more.
    Empire follows art and not vice versa as Englishmen suppose." - William Blake

    "Sex and art are the same thing." - Pablo Picasso

    Left Brain/Right Brain = Science/Art

    "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant.
    We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift."
    - Albert Einstein

    "Beauty is truth, truth beauty,"—that is all Ye know on earth, and all ye need to
    know." - John Keats

    ... if you have industry and science and you're rich!


    Yet,
    "Love is your power, which... gives you everything."
    - Jesus Christ, A Course in Miracles, Chapter 7, Section 6




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  • From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Thu Oct 21 14:19:00 2021
    XPost: alt.politics.congress, alt.politics.usa.constitution, alt.politics.obama XPost: alt.politics.libertarian, alt.activism.d

    On 6/18/2021 3:27 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    DIRECT BIDEN TO MAKE THE MINIMUM WAGE *MEDIAN* $15 NATIONWIDE (In 2009 Chained
    Dollars)

    This coincides with Trump's notion of 65% per capita GDP, of each of the 3,000
    counties.

    This will be 50% of the per capita GDP, AFTER TAXES, of each of the 3,000 Counties.

    Or else, better yet; determine the real 50% per Capita GDP, AFTER TAXES, of each
    of the 3,000 Counties (including state and local taxes).

    Raise by 5% of the County’s per capita GDP every three months, or $1 every three
    months, whichever is higher.


    United States per capita GDP varies,
    from $31,881 in Mississippi, to $65,545 in Massachusetts (In 2009 Chained Dollars):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP_per_capita
    [The U.S. Department of Commerce uses 2009 as a base year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chained_dollars]

    Miss. at $31,881 * 65% = $20,722.65, /2080hours = $9.96/hr under this notion. Mass. at $65,545 * 65% = $42,604.25, /2080hours = $20.48/hr under this notion.

    Between the 3,000 Counties, the per capita GDP disparity, is even greater, than
    between the States.

    Underemployment masks true unemployment.

    Take 1-2 years to raise, so as not to shock. (COVID just shocked, and they didn't
    give a sh*t at all).

    So, every 3 months, raise the minimum wage 5% of the County's per capita GDP, or
    $1, whichever is higher, until it reaches 65% of the County's per capita GDP, or
    $65% of the lowest State's GDP, whichever is higher. Or determine the 50% thing.


    Trump and Hilary discussed raising the minimum wage, in debate in 2016, Trump was
    thinking of 65% of per capita GDP of the County, while Hilary said $12 per hour.
    Trump and Biden just discussed it in debate Oct 22, 2020. While Biden says he
    supports a $15 Federal Minimum Wage, Trump says $15 would be ruinous in some Counties. Trump should have gone with the prior notion of 65% per capita GDP of
    the County:
    Trump and Biden in Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axBYd5X1vEY
    Trump saying at least $10 Nationwide, in 2016, he never passed this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJoFHS44rII

    $15/hr would be too high in Mississippi, and too low in Massachusetts.
    $15/hr * 2080hours = $31,200, which would be 97.86% of per capita GDP in Mississippi, and 47.60% of per capita GDP in Massachusetts (in 2009 chained dollars). Yet we want 65% per capita GDP everywhere. And to make it higher, you
    would have to limit spending at the top (which is a separate idea). We have to
    protect capital savings.


    Twenty-one States, have a State or Federal, minimum wage of $7.25/hr = $15,080/yr.

    Five of those States, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Tennessee, have no State minimum wage, yet only the Federal of $7.25/hr = $15,080/yr.

    Sixteen of those States, have a State Minimum wage equal to the Federal of $7.25/hr = $15,080/yr: Idaho, Utah, Colorado, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, North
    Dakota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Indiana, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Virginia,
    North Carolina, and Georgia.

    The Federal Minimum Wage of $15,080, is 47.3% of per capita GDP in Mississippi,
    and 23% of per capita GDP in Massachusetts (in 2009 chained dollars). Yet we want
    65% per capita GDP everywhere. And to make it higher, you would have to limit
    spending at the top (which is a separate idea). We have to protect capital savings.

    It's like if you were trying to make the minimum wage in Mexico, the same as in
    the United States; it wouldn't fly.
    Mexico's Per Capita GDP is $10,405, (Mexico's GDP _PPP_ is $21,362). (Likewise Mississippi's GDP _PPP_ may be higher than $31,881).

    We have to protect capital savings. But we can't build an economy by not having
    an economy. There will never be an economy for the slaves, if they don't build
    one through spending anything, relative to the existent capital. We will never
    allocate resources correctly, and build the economy where we need to, if we don't
    start at the bottom. We need to build the economy from the ground up.

    I envision a much brighter future, for America, if we raise the minimum wage, as I
    indicate. Look into the future, and see what you see. I'm an economist. Trust me.

    Also, a low minimum wage is apparently correlated with a higher State prison population:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_incarceration_and_correctional_supervision_rate


    The punishment for crime in most of the fifty U.S. States, is either slavery, or a
    dungeon, and that is abomination.


    *NOTE, these numbers are actually not adjusted for inflation. There is 2.5% inflation per year; 25% inflation per decade. They have been discussing raising
    the minimum wage for some time. Based on inflation, it would be as if Biden were
    saying 'make the minimum wage $19.50 nationwide,' and $13 per hour in Mississippi,
    and $26 per hour in Massachusetts. Inflation is exponential.

    The $13 is Hilary's $12 now, (Donald's $10(?)) with the inflation. Hilary's already inflated 20% from the $9.96 listed at the beginning of this post. That's
    how it would be $13, if for the whole nation. The bare minimum; but not high enough, except in Mississippi.
    If you go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP_per_capita
    and compare Mississippi 2009 chained GDP to (scroll down) 2019 Mississippi GDP,
    you have $40,464/$31,881 = 1.269 = 27% increase over 2009. United States total =
    $65,281/$50,577 = 1.29 = 29% increase over 2009. Massachusetts $86,942/$65,545 =
    1.32 = 32% increase over 2009. [So those previously calculated minimum wage percentages are even lower].

    So I conclude, that the answer is:

    Every 3 months, raise the minimum wage 5% of the County's per capita GDP, or $1,
    whichever is higher, until it reaches 65% of the County's per capita GDP, or $65%
    of the lowest State's GDP, whichever is higher. Not to be higher than 65% of the
    highest State's GDP, and not to be affected by new States admitted to the Union,
    except as determined by Congress (New States will use States already previously
    part of the Union, unless otherwise determined by Congress, and States can have
    higher minimum wages themselves).

    (So if your County's per capita GDP, is lower than the per capita GDP of the State
    of Mississippi, you use Mississippi's per capita GDP.)

    (The State Government can still make the State minimum wage higher, if it wants).

    Keep in mind there will be no money for retards under this plan. The jobs that
    they ever could have worked will be eliminated. However, I do not envision an
    increase in unemployment. Rather, I believe raising the minimum wage will significantly stimulate the economy. I envision a much more robust economic future for the United States.


    Also, if the per capita GDP of Washington D.C. is really $200,000 as Wikipedia
    indicates, then this is why we also use just 65% of the highest State's GDP whichever is _lower_, for both Washington D.C. and any Counties who's GDP's are
    higher than the highest State's GDP. At the moment New York State, $90,043 = $58,527 /2080= $28/hr would be the highest minimum wage in the Country, for Counties both in and out of New York State, who's 65% per capita GDP is as high or
    higher than $28/hr. Rather than indicating a $130,000, $62.50 minimum wage in Washington D.C.

    Also, a useful link may be: Wikipedia "List of United States Counties by per capita income" This is not per capita GDP, but per capita income. I presume they're using debt or asset spending to make per capita GDP higher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_counties_by_per_capita_income
    [Data for the 50 states and the District of Columbia is from the 2009–2013 American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates:
    Data on the District of Columbia does not seem accurate or correlated in this page: $45,290.]

    As for the 5% or $1 raise every three months; Start with the State’s minimum wage
    if it is higher than the Federal of $7.25.



    Finally, TRANSFER FREE CASH of 50% of the after tax minimum wage on a monthly basis. This is 25% per capita GDP; to everyone over 18 years of age. The net of
    the free cash plus earnings, cannot be higher than the full time minimum wage. The
    amount of free cash shall be reduced until recipient's earnings and free receipts
    amount to full time minimum wage, of 50% per capita GDP after taxes.

    Part time jobs are the only mal-point there, but workers don't really have control
    over hours worked, and so it's not really a point.

    TRANSFER FREE CASH of 25% of the after tax minimum wage on a monthly basis. This
    is 12.5% per capita GDP; to everyone under 18. The net of the free cash plus earnings cannot be higher than the full time minimum wage. The amount of free
    cash shall be reduced until recipient's earnings and free receipts amount to full
    time minimum wage, of 50% per capita GDP after taxes.

    So far, under this plan, there is no different minimum wage for people under 18.
    If there were, that would either get them less pay, or jobs easier, or some of both.

    You can get 3 months forward and 3 months back, each, maybe; 6 months upfront if
    needed. Amount is determined by residence declared in the highest County be Per
    Capita GDP, so people have more money if they move, to a more expensive part of
    the Country.


    The point is not to spend nor to save, but to spend exactly the right amount, and
    on the right things (and to save exactly the right amount). Building the bottom in
    consumer products requires spending money. 1. Consumption, 2. Personal Property,
    3. Real Property. Otherwise we will never build the Supermarkets and Stores which
    provide these products and what people want. It's all a question of what to finance. Due to COVID more spending at Amazon.com has built Amazon.com more, and
    will allow Amazon.com to reduce prices. Building these companies is in the interests of the American people, as these companies can then have economies of
    scale like Walmart. Average costs are reduced when quantities increase, and fixed
    costs stay the same. But the free market must determine which companies to build.

    Fiscal Spending can merely increase inflation and the interest rates, and these
    will only go up if we reach maximum output. We need to stimulate the economy to
    make up for the lost businesses to COVID. But we can only finance so much ultimately, and what is it that we want to finance? Even so, the economy hasn't
    been at maximum output since 2000*. Also, waiters don't produce anything, and
    would be better off building and buying dinning room tables rather than working
    as, and buying, waiters.

    Other things we can spend on/finance include:
    Transportation
    Education
    Housing
    Water
    Power

    Needs are (in no particular order):
    1. Energy, 2.Communication, 3.Food, 4.Housing, 5.Transportation, 6.Medical & Dental, 7.Education, 8.Sanitation

    1.Real Property, 2.Personal Property, 3.Consumption

    Not sufficiently developed nor therefore commoditized:
    1. Mattresses, 2. Shoes(athletic, boots, supportive dress), 3. Housing, 4. Vehicles 5. Electricity.

    And of NEGLIGIBLE cost, YET MANDATORY!:
    Free Abortions - in the first trimester /14 weeks; there is no ghost in the fetus,
    and with no parental consent - this is mandatory.
    Free Sanitation - Dumpsters and Porta Potties for the homeless - this is mandatory.

    San Diego has free trash pickup for a large percentage of its residents. Maybe
    ALL dumpster services should be paid for by the Government. Otherwise it's the
    difficulty of charging homeowners for dumpsters while those living in vehicles can
    still have free access to dumpsters. Porta Potties are not an issue in this way.

    "Since 1986, the city has collected trash from single-family homes but not apartments, condos, private streets or gated communities. Residents of multi-family units and their landlords have to contract with private companies to
    handle their trash." https://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/government/the-san-diego-garbage-law-thats-fueled-a-century-of-trash-talk/


    One's right to park a bus in a residential neighborhood, and live in it nationwide; if there is no notice not to park in front of, nor directly across
    from, someone's house, as view could be blocked, nor block business signs. A bus
    or RV is a wall of car. A vehicle with a kitchen, bathroom, and bed, is the minimum acceptable housing. But a shelter is a row of beds for no more than three
    nights, and tent is miserable, but provides more privacy than a shelter. Some
    tent dwellers have cars a few blocks away.
    Everyone produces 1/2 bag of trash per day, whether they live in a vehicle, a tent, or a home.
    Stop cities from betraying the public trust by having preferential parking where
    it is not needed - as they may rush to use this method to ban RV's.

    (*rates were up from 2005-2007 tho) https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/interest-rate https://www.jpmorganchase.com/about/our-business/historical-prime-rate




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  • From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Thu Oct 21 16:00:25 2021
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    On 10/17/2021 4:08 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    and second two years, at a four year public university, free!


    And federal funds rate for student loans past that.




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