• FBI Serves Search Warrant On Mar-a-Lago

    From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 9 00:53:53 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    |
    | "What's the difference between this and Watergate?" Donald
    | Trump raged in a statement Monday night after FBI agents.
    |
    | Well, as a Watergate and FBI historian, four things stand
    | out to me:
    |
    | 1) The idea the FBI launched a raid on a former president
    | would have been approved and monitored at the highest level
    | of the Justice Department; hard to even imagine how high
    | the bar of probable cause must've been for the Bureau to
    | initiate such a politically sensitive search....
    |
    | 2) A search warrant means an independent federal judge ALSO
    | signed off on the probable cause and, independently,
    | believes evidence there was likely a crime committed AND
    | that more evidence would be found at Mar-a-Lago. That's
    | huge too.
    |
    | 3) The fact the search apparently didn't leak until
    | basically when word came from Donald Trump himself shows
    | the FBI and the Justice Department conducted this search by
    | the book and a high degree of integrity. No leaks?
    | Impressive. Surely only a small team knew inside DOJ....
    |
    | 4) Taken together, this is one of the most significant,
    | sensitive, and politically explosive actions the US Justice
    | Department and FBI has ever taken--one of a tiny handful of
    | times it's ever investigated a president.
    |
    | Bottom line: The FBI & DOJ must've known they had the goods.
    |
    <https://twitter.com/vermontgmg/status/1556788136507805697>

    --bks

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Mon Aug 8 18:38:20 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <tcsb71$s54$1@panix3.panix.com>,
    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    | "What's the difference between this and Watergate?" Donald
    | Trump raged in a statement Monday night after FBI agents.
    |
    | Well, as a Watergate and FBI historian, four things stand
    | out to me:

    Who went into Watergate with a search warrant? I thought all the
    fuss was because Nixon didn't get a search warrant.

    | 2) A search warrant means an independent federal judge ALSO

    Also any decision by a judge is subject to review and appeal so
    if idjt really thinks this was improper, how is he exercising his
    rights?

    | signed off on the probable cause and, independently,
    | believes evidence there was likely a crime committed AND
    | that more evidence would be found at Mar-a-Lago. That's
    | huge too.

    Ultimately it is up to a petit jury to decide the facts and
    guilt, and this is part of how evidence is gatherred to present
    to the jury. And this is part of sequence of procedures where
    ever more damning evidence must be produced to go forward until
    the last procedure when a jury decides.

    --
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    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ Discordia: not just a religion but also a parody. This post / \
    I am an Andrea Chen sockpuppet. insults Islam. Mohammed

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 9 03:22:29 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 9 Aug 2022 00:53:53 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
    wrote:

    |
    | "What's the difference between this and Watergate?" Donald
    | Trump raged in a statement Monday night after FBI agents.
    |
    | Well, as a Watergate and FBI historian, four things stand
    | out to me:
    |
    | 1) The idea the FBI launched a raid on a former president
    | would have been approved and monitored at the highest level
    | of the Justice Department; hard to even imagine how high
    | the bar of probable cause must've been for the Bureau to
    | initiate such a politically sensitive search....
    |
    | 2) A search warrant means an independent federal judge ALSO
    | signed off on the probable cause and, independently,
    | believes evidence there was likely a crime committed AND
    | that more evidence would be found at Mar-a-Lago. That's
    | huge too.
    |
    | 3) The fact the search apparently didn't leak until
    | basically when word came from Donald Trump himself shows
    | the FBI and the Justice Department conducted this search by
    | the book and a high degree of integrity. No leaks?
    | Impressive. Surely only a small team knew inside DOJ....
    |
    | 4) Taken together, this is one of the most significant,
    | sensitive, and politically explosive actions the US Justice
    | Department and FBI has ever taken--one of a tiny handful of
    | times it's ever investigated a president.
    |
    | Bottom line: The FBI & DOJ must've known they had the goods.
    |
    <https://twitter.com/vermontgmg/status/1556788136507805697>

    --bks

    The Democrats are burning their bridges. This will definitely help to
    get Republicans out to vote in November.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 9 07:11:21 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 9 Aug 2022 00:53:53 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
    wrote:

    |
    | "What's the difference between this and Watergate?" Donald
    | Trump raged in a statement Monday night after FBI agents.
    |
    | Well, as a Watergate and FBI historian, four things stand
    | out to me:
    |
    | 1) The idea the FBI launched a raid on a former president
    | would have been approved and monitored at the highest level
    | of the Justice Department; hard to even imagine how high
    | the bar of probable cause must've been for the Bureau to
    | initiate such a politically sensitive search....
    |
    | 2) A search warrant means an independent federal judge ALSO
    | signed off on the probable cause and, independently,
    | believes evidence there was likely a crime committed AND
    | that more evidence would be found at Mar-a-Lago. That's
    | huge too.
    |
    | 3) The fact the search apparently didn't leak until
    | basically when word came from Donald Trump himself shows
    | the FBI and the Justice Department conducted this search by
    | the book and a high degree of integrity. No leaks?
    | Impressive. Surely only a small team knew inside DOJ....
    |
    | 4) Taken together, this is one of the most significant,
    | sensitive, and politically explosive actions the US Justice
    | Department and FBI has ever taken--one of a tiny handful of
    | times it's ever investigated a president.
    |
    | Bottom line: The FBI & DOJ must've known they had the goods.
    |
    <https://twitter.com/vermontgmg/status/1556788136507805697>

    --bks

    Don't celebrate yet Bradley. This has all the makings of a backfire
    against the current administration. Oh, and release the warrant NOW.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Aug 9 09:30:34 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 13:25:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | 1) The idea the FBI launched a raid on a former president
    | would have been approved and monitored at the highest level
    | of the Justice Department; hard to even imagine how high
    | the bar of probable cause must've been for the Bureau to
    | initiate such a politically sensitive search....
    |
    | 2) A search warrant means an independent federal judge ALSO
    | signed off on the probable cause and, independently,
    | believes evidence there was likely a crime committed AND
    | that more evidence would be found at Mar-a-Lago. That's
    | huge too.
    |
    | 3) The fact the search apparently didn't leak until
    | basically when word came from Donald Trump himself shows
    | the FBI and the Justice Department conducted this search by
    | the book and a high degree of integrity. No leaks?
    | Impressive. Surely only a small team knew inside DOJ....
    |
    | 4) Taken together, this is one of the most significant,
    | sensitive, and politically explosive actions the US Justice
    | Department and FBI has ever taken--one of a tiny handful of
    | times it's ever investigated a president.
    |
    | Bottom line: The FBI & DOJ must've known they had the goods.

    Banana Republic...

    n.b. The Director of the FBI was appointed by Trump.

    --bks

    Yeah, and?

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 9 13:25:46 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | 1) The idea the FBI launched a raid on a former president
    | would have been approved and monitored at the highest level
    | of the Justice Department; hard to even imagine how high
    | the bar of probable cause must've been for the Bureau to
    | initiate such a politically sensitive search....
    |
    | 2) A search warrant means an independent federal judge ALSO
    | signed off on the probable cause and, independently,
    | believes evidence there was likely a crime committed AND
    | that more evidence would be found at Mar-a-Lago. That's
    | huge too.
    |
    | 3) The fact the search apparently didn't leak until
    | basically when word came from Donald Trump himself shows
    | the FBI and the Justice Department conducted this search by
    | the book and a high degree of integrity. No leaks?
    | Impressive. Surely only a small team knew inside DOJ....
    |
    | 4) Taken together, this is one of the most significant,
    | sensitive, and politically explosive actions the US Justice
    | Department and FBI has ever taken--one of a tiny handful of
    | times it's ever investigated a president.
    |
    | Bottom line: The FBI & DOJ must've known they had the goods.

    n.b. The Director of the FBI was appointed by Trump.

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA on Tue Aug 9 13:37:28 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 13:25:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | 1) The idea the FBI launched a raid on a former president
    | would have been approved and monitored at the highest level
    | of the Justice Department; hard to even imagine how high
    | the bar of probable cause must've been for the Bureau to
    | initiate such a politically sensitive search....
    |
    | 2) A search warrant means an independent federal judge ALSO
    | signed off on the probable cause and, independently,
    | believes evidence there was likely a crime committed AND
    | that more evidence would be found at Mar-a-Lago. That's
    | huge too.
    |
    | 3) The fact the search apparently didn't leak until
    | basically when word came from Donald Trump himself shows
    | the FBI and the Justice Department conducted this search by
    | the book and a high degree of integrity. No leaks?
    | Impressive. Surely only a small team knew inside DOJ....
    |
    | 4) Taken together, this is one of the most significant,
    | sensitive, and politically explosive actions the US Justice
    | Department and FBI has ever taken--one of a tiny handful of
    | times it's ever investigated a president.
    |
    | Bottom line: The FBI & DOJ must've known they had the goods.
    ...
    n.b. The Director of the FBI was appointed by Trump.

    Yeah, and?

    And Trump said that Wray was "impeccably qualified."

    --bks

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Aug 9 09:44:49 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 13:37:28 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 13:25:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | 1) The idea the FBI launched a raid on a former president
    | would have been approved and monitored at the highest level
    | of the Justice Department; hard to even imagine how high
    | the bar of probable cause must've been for the Bureau to
    | initiate such a politically sensitive search....
    |
    | 2) A search warrant means an independent federal judge ALSO
    | signed off on the probable cause and, independently,
    | believes evidence there was likely a crime committed AND
    | that more evidence would be found at Mar-a-Lago. That's
    | huge too.
    |
    | 3) The fact the search apparently didn't leak until
    | basically when word came from Donald Trump himself shows
    | the FBI and the Justice Department conducted this search by
    | the book and a high degree of integrity. No leaks?
    | Impressive. Surely only a small team knew inside DOJ....
    |
    | 4) Taken together, this is one of the most significant,
    | sensitive, and politically explosive actions the US Justice
    | Department and FBI has ever taken--one of a tiny handful of
    | times it's ever investigated a president.
    |
    | Bottom line: The FBI & DOJ must've known they had the goods.
    ...
    n.b. The Director of the FBI was appointed by Trump.

    Yeah, and?

    And Trump said that Wray was "impeccably qualified."

    --bks

    Why do you think that's significant?

    BTW, many people though that Gibberish Joe and Cackle Cammy were
    "impeccably qualified," and look how that turned out.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 9 13:49:01 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Well, Trump may have stolen public property, destroyed
    documents, and tried to overthrow the government, but at
    least he didn't get a blowjob; that would have been serious.

    --bks

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Aug 9 10:54:52 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 13:49:01 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Well, Trump may have stolen public property, destroyed
    documents, and tried to overthrow the government, but at
    least he didn't get a blowjob; that would have been serious.

    --bks

    The Democrats are scared shitless of Trump and this fiasco will bot
    help them..

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA on Tue Aug 9 15:38:39 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 13:49:01 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Well, Trump may have stolen public property, destroyed
    documents, and tried to overthrow the government, but at
    least he didn't get a blowjob; that would have been serious.

    The Democrats are scared shitless of Trump and this fiasco will bot
    help them.. ^^^
    |
    Freudian slip by the Russian Troll ------------------------------>

    --bks

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Aug 9 13:17:40 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 13:49:01 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Well, Trump may have stolen public property, destroyed
    documents, and tried to overthrow the government, but at
    least he didn't get a blowjob; that would have been serious.

    --bks

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one, Centurion!

    Swill
    --
    Democrats make me feel ashamed of being American.
    Republicans make me feel ashamed of being human.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Aug 10 07:06:29 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 09 Aug 2022 13:17:11 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 13:37:28 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
    On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 13:25:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>Sherman) wrote:

    | 1) The idea the FBI launched a raid on a former president
    | would have been approved and monitored at the highest level
    | of the Justice Department; hard to even imagine how high
    | the bar of probable cause must've been for the Bureau to
    | initiate such a politically sensitive search....
    |
    | 2) A search warrant means an independent federal judge ALSO
    | signed off on the probable cause and, independently,
    | believes evidence there was likely a crime committed AND
    | that more evidence would be found at Mar-a-Lago. That's
    | huge too.
    |
    | 3) The fact the search apparently didn't leak until
    | basically when word came from Donald Trump himself shows
    | the FBI and the Justice Department conducted this search by
    | the book and a high degree of integrity. No leaks?
    | Impressive. Surely only a small team knew inside DOJ....
    |
    | 4) Taken together, this is one of the most significant,
    | sensitive, and politically explosive actions the US Justice
    | Department and FBI has ever taken--one of a tiny handful of
    | times it's ever investigated a president.
    |
    | Bottom line: The FBI & DOJ must've known they had the goods.
    ...
    n.b. The Director of the FBI was appointed by Trump.

    Yeah, and?

    And Trump said that Wray was "impeccably qualified."

    --bks

    And yet again a Trump ally/appointee has risen above partisanship to
    do the right thing.

    Swill

    Tell us the basis of the need for that warrant and the way it was
    executed. Oh that's right, they wont say...

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  • From AlleyCat@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Aug 12 19:03:10 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 8/9/2022 4:11 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On 9 Aug 2022 00:53:53 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
    wrote:

    |
    | "What's the difference between this and Watergate?" Donald
    | Trump raged in a statement Monday night after FBI agents.
    |
    | Well, as a Watergate and FBI historian, four things stand
    | out to me:
    |
    | 1) The idea the FBI launched a raid on a former president
    | would have been approved and monitored at the highest level
    | of the Justice Department; hard to even imagine how high
    | the bar of probable cause must've been for the Bureau to
    | initiate such a politically sensitive search....
    |
    | 2) A search warrant means an independent federal judge ALSO
    | signed off on the probable cause and, independently,
    | believes evidence there was likely a crime committed AND
    | that more evidence would be found at Mar-a-Lago. That's
    | huge too.
    |
    | 3) The fact the search apparently didn't leak until
    | basically when word came from Donald Trump himself shows
    | the FBI and the Justice Department conducted this search by
    | the book and a high degree of integrity. No leaks?
    | Impressive. Surely only a small team knew inside DOJ....
    |
    | 4) Taken together, this is one of the most significant,
    | sensitive, and politically explosive actions the US Justice
    | Department and FBI has ever taken--one of a tiny handful of
    | times it's ever investigated a president.
    |
    | Bottom line: The FBI & DOJ must've known they had the goods.
    |
    <https://twitter.com/vermontgmg/status/1556788136507805697>

    --bks

    Don't celebrate yet Bradley. This has all the makings of a backfire
    against the current administration. Oh, and release the warrant NOW.

    It has been released, but Trump could have released it at any time. Why didn't he?

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 16 13:07:44 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    | ...
    | DOJ only needs to identify a single classified document to
    | charge the former President under the Espionage Act. And
    | given the way that Trump is ginning up outrage and attacks
    | on FBI agents (which the government cited in explaining the
    | need to keep the affidavit sealed), charging him with a
    | single count indictment describing (hypothetically) the
    | nuclear codes might be a good way to shut everyone up. They
    | could use that to offer Trump a plea deal to lesser charges
    | while they catalog other documents that each could bear a
    | separate 10-year sentence.
    | ... <https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/16/trumps-latest-tirade-proves-any-temporary-restraining-order-may-come-too-late/>

    |
    | Administration sources familiar with the investigation tell
    | ABC News the amount and the sensitivity of confidential,
    | secret and top-secret documents allegedly discovered in the
    | Mar-a-Lago search raise critical national security
    | questions that must be urgently addressed.
    |
    | Those officials say law enforcement and security officials
    | must now try to track the chain of custody of the material
    | and try to determine if any of the material was compromised.
    | ... <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-search-mar-lago-raises-critical-national-security/story?id=88381428>

    --bks

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to Sherman on Tue Aug 16 09:33:38 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:07:44 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | DOJ only needs to identify a single classified document to
    | charge the former President under the Espionage Act. And
    | given the way that Trump is ginning up outrage and attacks
    | on FBI agents (which the government cited in explaining the
    | need to keep the affidavit sealed), charging him with a
    | single count indictment describing (hypothetically) the
    | nuclear codes might be a good way to shut everyone up. They
    | could use that to offer Trump a plea deal to lesser charges
    | while they catalog other documents that each could bear a
    | separate 10-year sentence.
    | ...
    <https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/16/trumps-latest-tirade-proves-any-temporary-restraining-order-may-come-too-late/>

    |
    | Administration sources familiar with the investigation tell
    | ABC News the amount and the sensitivity of confidential,
    | secret and top-secret documents allegedly discovered in the
    | Mar-a-Lago search raise critical national security
    | questions that must be urgently addressed.
    |
    | Those officials say law enforcement and security officials
    | must now try to track the chain of custody of the material
    | and try to determine if any of the material was compromised.
    | ...
    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-search-mar-lago-raises-critical-national-security/story?id=88381428>

    --bks


    More unamed "sources."

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Aug 16 13:46:48 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
    news:tdg4qv$72$2@reader2.panix.com:

    | ...
    | DOJ only needs to identify a single classified document to
    | charge the former President under the Espionage Act. And
    | given the way that Trump is ginning up outrage and attacks
    | on FBI agents (which the government cited in explaining the
    | need to keep the affidavit sealed), charging him with a
    | single count indictment describing (hypothetically) the
    | nuclear codes might be a good way to shut everyone up. They
    | could use that to offer Trump a plea deal to lesser charges
    | while they catalog other documents that each could bear a
    | separate 10-year sentence.
    | ...
    <https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/16/trumps-latest-tirade-proves-any- temporary-restraining-order-may-come-too-late/>

    |
    | Administration sources familiar with the investigation tell
    | ABC News the amount and the sensitivity of confidential,
    | secret and top-secret documents allegedly discovered in the
    | Mar-a-Lago search raise critical national security
    | questions that must be urgently addressed.
    |
    | Those officials say law enforcement and security officials
    | must now try to track the chain of custody of the material
    | and try to determine if any of the material was compromised.
    | ...
    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-search-mar-lago-raises-critical-na tional-security/story?id=88381428>

    --bks


    The important part is not the search warrant,
    which just describes what the authorities were
    looking for. Of vital importance is the inventory
    receipt which shows what they FOUND. If they are
    in fact highly classified nuclear weapons data
    they will of course not be released to the public,
    it is enough they are identified.

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA on Tue Aug 16 10:29:00 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 09:33:38 -0400, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:07:44 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | DOJ only needs to identify a single classified document to
    | charge the former President under the Espionage Act. And
    | given the way that Trump is ginning up outrage and attacks
    | on FBI agents (which the government cited in explaining the
    | need to keep the affidavit sealed), charging him with a
    | single count indictment describing (hypothetically) the
    | nuclear codes might be a good way to shut everyone up. They
    | could use that to offer Trump a plea deal to lesser charges
    | while they catalog other documents that each could bear a
    | separate 10-year sentence.
    | ... >><https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/16/trumps-latest-tirade-proves-any-temporary-restraining-order-may-come-too-late/>

    |
    | Administration sources familiar with the investigation tell
    | ABC News the amount and the sensitivity of confidential,
    | secret and top-secret documents allegedly discovered in the
    | Mar-a-Lago search raise critical national security
    | questions that must be urgently addressed.
    |
    | Those officials say law enforcement and security officials
    | must now try to track the chain of custody of the material
    | and try to determine if any of the material was compromised.
    | ... >><https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-search-mar-lago-raises-critical-national-security/story?id=88381428>

    --bks


    More unamed "sources."

    Remember that phrase next time you post some right wing screed in
    here.

    Swill
    --
    "Every investigation thus far makes one conclusion abundantly clear:
    Secretary Clinton's fundamental lack of judgment and wanton disregard
    for protecting and keeping information confidential raises continued
    questions about the exposure of our nation's diplomatic and national
    security secrets,"
    Kevin McCarthy (R) commenting on the Mar a Lago search August 09, 2022

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  • From BeamMeUpScotty@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Tue Aug 16 07:42:29 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 8/16/2022 6:33 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:07:44 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | DOJ only needs to identify a single classified document to
    | charge the former President under the Espionage Act. And
    | given the way that Trump is ginning up outrage and attacks
    | on FBI agents (which the government cited in explaining the
    | need to keep the affidavit sealed), charging him with a
    | single count indictment describing (hypothetically) the
    | nuclear codes might be a good way to shut everyone up. They
    | could use that to offer Trump a plea deal to lesser charges
    | while they catalog other documents that each could bear a
    | separate 10-year sentence.
    | ...
    <https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/16/trumps-latest-tirade-proves-any-temporary-restraining-order-may-come-too-late/>

    |
    | Administration sources familiar with the investigation tell
    | ABC News the amount and the sensitivity of confidential,
    | secret and top-secret documents allegedly discovered in the
    | Mar-a-Lago search raise critical national security
    | questions that must be urgently addressed.
    |
    | Those officials say law enforcement and security officials
    | must now try to track the chain of custody of the material
    | and try to determine if any of the material was compromised.
    | ...
    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-search-mar-lago-raises-critical-national-security/story?id=88381428>

    --bks


    More unamed "sources."

    They are reliable. Your pal Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness even relies on them:

    EXCLUSIVE: The FBI seized boxes containing records covered by
    attorney-client privilege and potentially executive privilege during
    its raid of former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home, sources familiar
    with the investigation told Fox News, adding that the Justice
    Department opposed Trump lawyers' request for the appointment of an
    independent, special master to review the records.

    Sources familiar with the investigation told Fox News Saturday that
    the former president’s team was informed that boxes labeled A-14,
    A-26, A-43, A-13, A-33, and a set of documents—all seen on the final
    page of the FBI’s property receipt —contained information covered by
    attorney-client privilege.

    ~ Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness — 14 Aug 2022

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/c/I1-pfGSDN_A/m/PuAUdH51BQAJ

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Tue Aug 16 09:42:27 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    In article <tdg4qv$72$2@reader2.panix.com>,
    bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:

    | secret and top-secret documents allegedly discovered in the
    | Mar-a-Lago search raise critical national security
    | questions that must be urgently addressed.

    Biden will do nothing because he doesn't want to prosecuted for
    whatever it is he's done after he leaves office

    --
    :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ Discordia: not just a religion but also a parody. This post / \
    I am an Andrea Chen sockpuppet. insults Islam. Mohammed

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA on Wed Aug 17 07:12:29 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 09:33:38 -0400, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:07:44 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | DOJ only needs to identify a single classified document to
    | charge the former President under the Espionage Act. And
    | given the way that Trump is ginning up outrage and attacks
    | on FBI agents (which the government cited in explaining the
    | need to keep the affidavit sealed), charging him with a
    | single count indictment describing (hypothetically) the
    | nuclear codes might be a good way to shut everyone up. They
    | could use that to offer Trump a plea deal to lesser charges
    | while they catalog other documents that each could bear a
    | separate 10-year sentence.
    | ... >><https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/16/trumps-latest-tirade-proves-any-temporary-restraining-order-may-come-too-late/>

    |
    | Administration sources familiar with the investigation tell
    | ABC News the amount and the sensitivity of confidential,
    | secret and top-secret documents allegedly discovered in the
    | Mar-a-Lago search raise critical national security
    | questions that must be urgently addressed.
    |
    | Those officials say law enforcement and security officials
    | must now try to track the chain of custody of the material
    | and try to determine if any of the material was compromised.
    | ... >><https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-search-mar-lago-raises-critical-national-security/story?id=88381428>

    --bks


    More unamed "sources."

    It's all Bradley has. Post after post of propaganda.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to BLUE-GIRL-BLOWS-AND-SUCKS@ideocracy on Wed Aug 17 07:14:12 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 07:42:29 -0700, BeamMeUpScotty <BLUE-GIRL-BLOWS-AND-SUCKS@ideocracy.gov> wrote:

    On 8/16/2022 6:33 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:07:44 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | DOJ only needs to identify a single classified document to
    | charge the former President under the Espionage Act. And
    | given the way that Trump is ginning up outrage and attacks
    | on FBI agents (which the government cited in explaining the
    | need to keep the affidavit sealed), charging him with a
    | single count indictment describing (hypothetically) the
    | nuclear codes might be a good way to shut everyone up. They
    | could use that to offer Trump a plea deal to lesser charges
    | while they catalog other documents that each could bear a
    | separate 10-year sentence.
    | ...
    <https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/16/trumps-latest-tirade-proves-any-temporary-restraining-order-may-come-too-late/>

    |
    | Administration sources familiar with the investigation tell
    | ABC News the amount and the sensitivity of confidential,
    | secret and top-secret documents allegedly discovered in the
    | Mar-a-Lago search raise critical national security
    | questions that must be urgently addressed.
    |
    | Those officials say law enforcement and security officials
    | must now try to track the chain of custody of the material
    | and try to determine if any of the material was compromised.
    | ...
    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-search-mar-lago-raises-critical-national-security/story?id=88381428>

    --bks


    More unamed "sources."

    They are reliable. Your pal Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness even relies on them:

    EXCLUSIVE: The FBI seized boxes containing records covered by
    attorney-client privilege and potentially executive privilege during
    its raid of former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home, sources familiar
    with the investigation told Fox News, adding that the Justice
    Department opposed Trump lawyers' request for the appointment of an
    independent, special master to review the records.

    Sources familiar with the investigation told Fox News Saturday that
    the former president’s team was informed that boxes labeled A-14,
    A-26, A-43, A-13, A-33, and a set of documents—all seen on the final
    page of the FBI’s property receipt —contained information covered by
    attorney-client privilege.

    ~ Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness — 14 Aug 2022

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/c/I1-pfGSDN_A/m/PuAUdH51BQAJ

    It's so adorable that Rudely is this obsessed with me. Poor pathetic
    weasle...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BeamMeUpScotty@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Aug 17 07:49:14 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 8/17/2022 4:14 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 07:42:29 -0700, BeamMeUpScotty <BLUE-GIRL-BLOWS-AND-SUCKS@ideocracy.gov> wrote:

    On 8/16/2022 6:33 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:07:44 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | DOJ only needs to identify a single classified document to
    | charge the former President under the Espionage Act. And
    | given the way that Trump is ginning up outrage and attacks
    | on FBI agents (which the government cited in explaining the
    | need to keep the affidavit sealed), charging him with a
    | single count indictment describing (hypothetically) the
    | nuclear codes might be a good way to shut everyone up. They
    | could use that to offer Trump a plea deal to lesser charges
    | while they catalog other documents that each could bear a
    | separate 10-year sentence.
    | ...
    <https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/16/trumps-latest-tirade-proves-any-temporary-restraining-order-may-come-too-late/>

    |
    | Administration sources familiar with the investigation tell
    | ABC News the amount and the sensitivity of confidential,
    | secret and top-secret documents allegedly discovered in the
    | Mar-a-Lago search raise critical national security
    | questions that must be urgently addressed.
    |
    | Those officials say law enforcement and security officials
    | must now try to track the chain of custody of the material
    | and try to determine if any of the material was compromised.
    | ...
    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-search-mar-lago-raises-critical-national-security/story?id=88381428>

    --bks


    More unamed "sources."

    They are reliable. Your pal Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness even relies on them:

    EXCLUSIVE: The FBI seized boxes containing records covered by
    attorney-client privilege and potentially executive privilege during
    its raid of former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home, sources familiar >> with the investigation told Fox News, adding that the Justice
    Department opposed Trump lawyers' request for the appointment of an
    independent, special master to review the records.

    Sources familiar with the investigation told Fox News Saturday that
    the former president’s team was informed that boxes labeled A-14,
    A-26, A-43, A-13, A-33, and a set of documents—all seen on the final >> page of the FBI’s property receipt —contained information covered by >> attorney-client privilege.

    ~ Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness — 14 Aug 2022

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/c/I1-pfGSDN_A/m/PuAUdH51BQAJ

    It's so adorable [sic] that

    What's pathetic is that you have pissed and moaned literally thousands of times that "source say = BS," then you post a story based on unnamed sources.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 17 16:25:22 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    Here's an interesting story on Scooter Libby and the MWD (Magic Wand Documents). https://abcnews.go.com/US/trumps-claims-experts-magic-wand-president-declassify-documents/story?id=88466588

    Swill
    --
    "Every investigation thus far makes one conclusion abundantly clear:
    Secretary Clinton's fundamental lack of judgment and wanton disregard
    for protecting and keeping information confidential raises continued
    questions about the exposure of our nation's diplomatic and national
    security secrets,"
    Kevin McCarthy (R) commenting on the Mar a Lago search August 09, 2022

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to HARTUNG-IS-A-FAT-FUCK@ideocracy.gov on Thu Aug 18 07:00:00 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 07:49:14 -0700, BeamMeUpScotty <HARTUNG-IS-A-FAT-FUCK@ideocracy.gov> wrote:

    On 8/17/2022 4:14 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 07:42:29 -0700, BeamMeUpScotty
    <BLUE-GIRL-BLOWS-AND-SUCKS@ideocracy.gov> wrote:

    On 8/16/2022 6:33 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:07:44 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | DOJ only needs to identify a single classified document to
    | charge the former President under the Espionage Act. And
    | given the way that Trump is ginning up outrage and attacks
    | on FBI agents (which the government cited in explaining the
    | need to keep the affidavit sealed), charging him with a
    | single count indictment describing (hypothetically) the
    | nuclear codes might be a good way to shut everyone up. They
    | could use that to offer Trump a plea deal to lesser charges
    | while they catalog other documents that each could bear a
    | separate 10-year sentence.
    | ...
    <https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/16/trumps-latest-tirade-proves-any-temporary-restraining-order-may-come-too-late/>

    |
    | Administration sources familiar with the investigation tell
    | ABC News the amount and the sensitivity of confidential,
    | secret and top-secret documents allegedly discovered in the
    | Mar-a-Lago search raise critical national security
    | questions that must be urgently addressed.
    |
    | Those officials say law enforcement and security officials
    | must now try to track the chain of custody of the material
    | and try to determine if any of the material was compromised.
    | ...
    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-search-mar-lago-raises-critical-national-security/story?id=88381428>

    --bks


    More unamed "sources."

    They are reliable. Your pal Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness even relies on them:

    EXCLUSIVE: The FBI seized boxes containing records covered by
    attorney-client privilege and potentially executive privilege during >>> its raid of former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home, sources familiar >>> with the investigation told Fox News, adding that the Justice
    Department opposed Trump lawyers' request for the appointment of an
    independent, special master to review the records.

    Sources familiar with the investigation told Fox News Saturday that
    the former president’s team was informed that boxes labeled A-14,
    A-26, A-43, A-13, A-33, and a set of documents—all seen on the final >>> page of the FBI’s property receipt —contained information covered by >>> attorney-client privilege.

    ~ Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness — 14 Aug 2022

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/c/I1-pfGSDN_A/m/PuAUdH51BQAJ

    It's so adorable [sic] that

    What's pathetic is that you have pissed and moaned literally thousands of times
    that "source say = BS," then you post a story based on unnamed sources.

    You know Rudely that treatment is available for obsesive disorders.
    Seek help. No one cares about you - we sit and laugh at your pathetic existance.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BeamMeUpScotty@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Aug 18 07:04:30 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On 8/18/2022 4:00 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 07:49:14 -0700, BeamMeUpScotty <HARTUNG-IS-A-FAT-FUCK@ideocracy.gov> wrote:

    On 8/17/2022 4:14 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 07:42:29 -0700, BeamMeUpScotty
    <BLUE-GIRL-BLOWS-AND-SUCKS@ideocracy.gov> wrote:

    On 8/16/2022 6:33 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:07:44 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
    Sherman) wrote:

    | ...
    | DOJ only needs to identify a single classified document to
    | charge the former President under the Espionage Act. And
    | given the way that Trump is ginning up outrage and attacks
    | on FBI agents (which the government cited in explaining the
    | need to keep the affidavit sealed), charging him with a
    | single count indictment describing (hypothetically) the
    | nuclear codes might be a good way to shut everyone up. They
    | could use that to offer Trump a plea deal to lesser charges
    | while they catalog other documents that each could bear a
    | separate 10-year sentence.
    | ...
    <https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/16/trumps-latest-tirade-proves-any-temporary-restraining-order-may-come-too-late/>

    |
    | Administration sources familiar with the investigation tell
    | ABC News the amount and the sensitivity of confidential,
    | secret and top-secret documents allegedly discovered in the
    | Mar-a-Lago search raise critical national security
    | questions that must be urgently addressed.
    |
    | Those officials say law enforcement and security officials
    | must now try to track the chain of custody of the material
    | and try to determine if any of the material was compromised.
    | ...
    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-search-mar-lago-raises-critical-national-security/story?id=88381428>

    --bks


    More unamed "sources."

    They are reliable. Your pal Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness even relies on them:

    EXCLUSIVE: The FBI seized boxes containing records covered by
    attorney-client privilege and potentially executive privilege during >>>> its raid of former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home, sources familiar
    with the investigation told Fox News, adding that the Justice
    Department opposed Trump lawyers' request for the appointment of an >>>> independent, special master to review the records.

    Sources familiar with the investigation told Fox News Saturday that >>>> the former president’s team was informed that boxes labeled A-14, >>>> A-26, A-43, A-13, A-33, and a set of documents—all seen on the final
    page of the FBI’s property receipt —contained information covered by
    attorney-client privilege.

    ~ Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness — 14 Aug 2022

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/c/I1-pfGSDN_A/m/PuAUdH51BQAJ

    It's so adorable [sic] that

    What's pathetic is that you have pissed and moaned literally thousands of times
    that "source say = BS," then you post a story based on unnamed sources.

    You know Prof. Canoza that

    you are a little nugget of dog shit. Yes, I know that. We all know it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to BLUE-GIRL-HAS-NO-IRON@ideocracy.gov on Thu Aug 18 11:44:38 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics

    On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 07:04:30 -0700, BeamMeUpScotty <BLUE-GIRL-HAS-NO-IRON@ideocracy.gov> wrote:

    I am a little nugget of dog shit. Yes, I know that. We all know it.

    If you'd stop forging and stop assuming you're right and everybody
    else is wrong, you could become a valuable member of this forum.

    As it stands though, you have less value than used toilet paper.

    Swill
    --
    "Every investigation thus far makes one conclusion abundantly clear:
    Secretary Clinton's fundamental lack of judgment and wanton disregard
    for protecting and keeping information confidential raises continued
    questions about the exposure of our nation's diplomatic and national
    security secrets,"
    Kevin McCarthy (R) commenting on the Mar a Lago search August 09, 2022

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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