• Putin Says Ukraine War WILL Continue

    From 56g.1173@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 15 00:21:58 2023
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    https://www.euronews.com/2023/12/14/putin-says-no-peace-in-ukraine-until-russias-goals-are-achieved

    The Russian president was speaking at an end of year press
    conference, which was somewhat overshadowed by the peculiar
    disappearance of jailed former opposition leader Alexeï
    Navalny.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has said there will be no
    peace in Ukraine until his goals are achieved - and said
    those objectives remain unchanged.

    Putin was speaking at a year-end news conference on Thursday
    which offered the leader an opportunity to reinforce his
    grip on power.

    Giving rare detail on what Moscow calls its special military
    operation, Putin dismissed the need for a second wave of
    mobilisation of reservists to fight in Ukraine - a move
    that proved deeply unpopular in the past.

    He said there are some 617,000 Russian soldiers currently
    there, including around 244,000 troops who were called
    up to fight alongside professional Russian military forces.

    . . .

    OK ... we're well into this war now. Russia has lost
    a huge amount of soldiers and equipment and money, but
    Putin has NO intention of letting off - he's committed
    to his 'vision'.

    He has re-shaped relations with China, India, NK and Iran.
    Western "sanctions" have barely had an effect.

    Challenge his rule and you DIE/disappear.

    So far nobody has dared stick a shiv in his back, so
    let's not plan for that to happen anytime soon.

    So, on the current track, Russia WILL continue with
    its Ukraine campaign. The ultimate goal will be to
    grab ALL of Ukraine, not just that eastern edge.

    And AFTER success, Russia will proceed to find ways
    to 're-patriate' everything else it owned at the
    height of the Cold War and more. Ukraine is NOT the
    alpha and omega, just the first step. It will always
    have a 'good reason/excuse'.

    The EXPENSE of stopping
    Russian imperialism will be so great that it will
    go largely unopposed. Putin (and likely ultra-
    nationalist successors) don't CARE how many Russian
    soldiers die so long as the 'vision' is realized.
    Russia can and will continue to escalate, build more
    weapons factories, sow systemic and political disruption
    in opposing nations and slowly draw in more allies.

    This is BAD BAD BAD.

    Like the Taliban and VC, constant pressure eventually
    wears down opponents. Russia will always apply such
    pressure, political/economic, until the will and
    resources of its opponents collapse.

    'Democracies' rely on public opinion. They do not
    respond well to "forever wars" and the human and
    economic toll. Eventually they cave, assuming THEY
    will be OK - and fuck anyone else. They will insist
    on appeasement after appeasement, thinking that will
    keep everything safe (for THEM).

    HOW to sustain the will to resist ??? After WW-2 it
    was relatively easy - 'patriotism' and the hangover
    of the NAZI global threat. But that faded a long
    time ago. Shit, half the youth these days seem to
    support bloody terrorists, anarchists and antisemitic
    notions Goebbels would have been proud of.

    Longer-term, this does not look good for "the west".
    Like Rome, we seem to have reached a certain peak
    and then dipped into apathy and antipathy and inward
    focus. The end of western civ SEEMS impossible, everyone
    feels safe.

    Not.

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