• Philippines Welcomes Back American Military - Now That China is Near

    From 22T.R732@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 3 22:14:32 2023
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    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052

    The Philippines' government has identified four more military
    bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

    Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
    drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
    the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
    Yankees !".

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  • From Dr. Jade Helm@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 3 22:00:49 2023
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    On 4/3/2023 8:14 PM, 22T.R732 wrote:
    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052

    The Philippines' government has identified four more military
    bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

      Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
      drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
      the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
      Yankees !".

    China has aggressively bullied its way into fishing waters that were historically fished by Vietnam, Cambodia and the Philippines while also claiming off=shore gas and oil fields that are similarly claimed by
    those nations. The Philippines needs the U.S. Navy, especially, to take
    back those areas in the South China sea that China is essentially
    stealing from them.
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 01:51:19 2023
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    On 4/3/2023 10:14 PM, 22T.R732 wrote:
    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052


    The Philippines' government has identified four more military
    bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

      Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
      drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
      the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
      Yankees !".

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 01:54:49 2023
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    On 4/3/2023 10:14 PM, 22T.R732 wrote:
    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052


    The Philippines' government has identified four more military
    bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

      Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
      drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
      the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
      Yankees !".


    Zelensky welcomed the US back in a major way. Ukraine is all fucked up
    because of that. The lesson is, everything the US touched will turn to shit.

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  • From Leper@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 13:18:16 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 4/4/2023 12:54 AM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 10:14 PM, 22T.R732 wrote:
    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052

    The Philippines' government has identified four more military
    bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

      Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
      drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
      the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
      Yankees !".


    Zelensky welcomed the US back in a major way. Ukraine is all fucked up because of that. The lesson is, everything the US touched will turn to
    shit.

    Whoa! You turned to shit without America laying an hand on you.
    There just is not enough toilet paper to quell your personal problem.




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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Dr. Jade Helm on Tue Apr 4 13:15:32 2023
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    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 4/3/2023 11:00 PM, Dr. Jade Helm wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 8:14 PM, 22T.R732 wrote:
    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052

    The Philippines' government has identified four more military
    bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

       Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
       drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
       the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
       Yankees !".

    China has aggressively bullied its way into fishing waters that were historically fished by Vietnam, Cambodia and the Philippines while also claiming off=shore gas and oil fields that are similarly claimed by
    those nations.  The Philippines needs the U.S. Navy, especially, to take back those areas in the South China sea that China is essentially
    stealing from them.

    We need Subic Bay back and in top fighting condition and the Big AFB the
    same. Thank you Jimmy Carter! You lamebrained Democrat for screwing that Security plan from the Teddy Roosevelt administration. Our lack of
    presence is exactly what emboldened the ChiComs to pull the crap they
    are now instigating. Taiwan is in their cross-hairs and they are not
    going to stop without military intervention. The Die is set. Thank you Democrats for another damned war that need not be.

    bnVsbA==

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Tue Apr 4 14:52:10 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 4/4/2023 2:15 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 11:00 PM, Dr. Jade Helm wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 8:14 PM, 22T.R732 wrote:
    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052


    The Philippines' government has identified four more military
    bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

       Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
       drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
       the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
       Yankees !".

    China has aggressively bullied its way into fishing waters that were
    historically fished by Vietnam, Cambodia and the Philippines while
    also claiming off=shore gas and oil fields that are similarly claimed
    by those nations.  The Philippines needs the U.S. Navy, especially,
    to take back those areas in the South China sea that China is
    essentially stealing from them.

    We need Subic Bay back and in top fighting condition and the Big AFB
    the same. Thank you Jimmy Carter! You lamebrained Democrat for
    screwing that
    Security plan from the Teddy Roosevelt administration. Our lack of
    presence is exactly what emboldened the ChiComs to pull the crap they
    are now instigating. Taiwan is in their cross-hairs and they are not
    going to stop without military intervention. The Die is set. Thank you Democrats for another damned war that need not be.


    There is only "one China" recognized by the United States government and
    all governments in the world, and the current "People's Republic of
    China" (PRC) is the official representative of China in the United
    Nations, not "Republic of China" (Taiwan - ROC). The Republic of China's
    UN seat was removed and replaced with a seat for the People's Republic
    of China on 25 October 1971.

    China and the United Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_the_United_Nations

    "China is one of the charter members of the United Nations and is one of
    five permanent members of its Security Council.

    One of the victorious Allies of World War II (the Chinese theatre of
    which was the Second Sino-Japanese War), the Republic of China (ROC)
    joined the UN upon its founding in 1945. The subsequent resumption of
    the Chinese Civil War led to the establishment of the People's Republic
    of China (PRC) in 1949. Nearly all of Mainland China was soon under its control[note 1] and the ROC government retreated to the island of
    Taiwan. The One-China policy advocated by both governments dismantled
    the solution of dual representation but, amid the Cold War and Korean
    War, the United States and its allies opposed the replacement of the ROC
    at the United Nations until 1971, although they were persuaded to
    pressure the government of the ROC to accept international recognition
    of Mongolia's independence in 1961. The United Kingdom, France, and
    other allies of the United States individually shifted their
    recognitions of China to the PRC and Albania brought annual votes to
    replace the ROC with the PRC, but these were defeated since—after
    General Assembly Resolution 1668—a change in recognition required a two-thirds vote.

    Amid the Sino-Soviet split and Vietnam War, United States President
    Richard Nixon entered into negotiations with Chinese Communist Party
    Chairman Mao Zedong, initially through a secret 1971 trip undertaken by
    Henry Kissinger to visit Zhou Enlai. On 25 October 1971, Albania's
    motion to recognize the People's Republic of China as the sole legal
    China was passed as General Assembly Resolution 2758. It was supported
    by most of the communist states (including the Soviet Union) and
    non-aligned countries (such as India), but also by some NATO countries
    such as the United Kingdom and France. After the PRC was seated on 15
    November 1971, Nixon then personally visited mainland China the next
    year, beginning the normalization of PRC-USA relations. Since that time,
    the Republic of China has softened its own One-China Policy and sought international recognition. These moves have been opposed and mostly
    blocked by the People's Republic of China, forcing the Republic of China
    to join international organizations under other names, including
    "Chinese Taipei" at the International Olympic Committee.

    The Republic of China's most recent request for admission was turned
    down in 2007,[1] but a number of European governments—led by the United States—protested to the UN's Office of Legal Affairs to force the global
    body and its secretary-general to stop using the reference "Taiwan is a
    part of China".[2]

    The Republic of China's UN seat was removed and replaced with a seat for
    the People's Republic of China on 25 October 1971.[8]"

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 15:10:10 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 4/4/2023 1:52 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 2:15 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 11:00 PM, Dr. Jade Helm wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 8:14 PM, 22T.R732 wrote:
    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052

    The Philippines' government has identified four more military
    bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

       Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
       drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
       the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
       Yankees !".

    China has aggressively bullied its way into fishing waters that were
    historically fished by Vietnam, Cambodia and the Philippines while
    also claiming off=shore gas and oil fields that are similarly claimed
    by those nations.  The Philippines needs the U.S. Navy, especially,
    to take back those areas in the South China sea that China is
    essentially stealing from them.

    We need Subic Bay back and in top fighting condition and the Big AFB
    the same. Thank you Jimmy Carter! You lamebrained Democrat for
    screwing that
    Security plan from the Teddy Roosevelt administration. Our lack of
    presence is exactly what emboldened the ChiComs to pull the crap they
    are now instigating. Taiwan is in their cross-hairs and they are not
    going to stop without military intervention. The Die is set. Thank you
    Democrats for another damned war that need not be.


    There is only "one China" recognized by the United States government and
    all governments in the world, and the current "People's Republic of
    China" (PRC) is the official representative of China in the United
    Nations, not "Republic of China" (Taiwan - ROC). The Republic of China's
    UN seat was removed and replaced with a seat for the People's Republic
    of China on 25 October 1971.

    China and the United Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_the_United_Nations

    "China is one of the charter members of the United Nations and is one of
    five permanent members of its Security Council.

    One of the victorious Allies of World War II (the Chinese theatre of
    which was the Second Sino-Japanese War), the Republic of China (ROC)
    joined the UN upon its founding in 1945. The subsequent resumption of
    the Chinese Civil War led to the establishment of the People's Republic
    of China (PRC) in 1949. Nearly all of Mainland China was soon under its control[note 1] and the ROC government retreated to the island of
    Taiwan. The One-China policy advocated by both governments dismantled
    the solution of dual representation but, amid the Cold War and Korean
    War, the United States and its allies opposed the replacement of the ROC
    at the United Nations until 1971, although they were persuaded to
    pressure the government of the ROC to accept international recognition
    of Mongolia's independence in 1961. The United Kingdom, France, and
    other allies of the United States individually shifted their
    recognitions of China to the PRC and Albania brought annual votes to
    replace the ROC with the PRC, but these were defeated since—after
    General Assembly Resolution 1668—a change in recognition required a two-thirds vote.

    Amid the Sino-Soviet split and Vietnam War, United States President
    Richard Nixon entered into negotiations with Chinese Communist Party
    Chairman Mao Zedong, initially through a secret 1971 trip undertaken by
    Henry Kissinger to visit Zhou Enlai. On 25 October 1971, Albania's
    motion to recognize the People's Republic of China as the sole legal
    China was passed as General Assembly Resolution 2758. It was supported
    by most of the communist states (including the Soviet Union) and
    non-aligned countries (such as India), but also by some NATO countries
    such as the United Kingdom and France. After the PRC was seated on 15 November 1971, Nixon then personally visited mainland China the next
    year, beginning the normalization of PRC-USA relations. Since that time,
    the Republic of China has softened its own One-China Policy and sought international recognition. These moves have been opposed and mostly
    blocked by the People's Republic of China, forcing the Republic of China
    to join international organizations under other names, including
    "Chinese Taipei" at the International Olympic Committee.

    The Republic of China's most recent request for admission was turned
    down in 2007,[1] but a number of European governments—led by the United States—protested to the UN's Office of Legal Affairs to force the global body and its secretary-general to stop using the reference "Taiwan is a
    part of China".[2]

    The Republic of China's UN seat was removed and replaced with a seat for
    the People's Republic of China on 25 October 1971.[8]"

    That was a boondoggle by fucking Democrats you one neuron firing brain
    deprived fool. Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy et al guaranteed Taiwan's independence in order to make it secure and to entice American
    commercial and industrial investment of money,processes and people. And
    we lived up to that promise. To break that promise our morons in charge
    will have shot our own industrial American Giants in the back, along
    with Taiwan's Trust in us. Dishonoring our agreements. If you think
    China is going to stop with Taiwan, you are a bigger idiot then our
    Biden. We had a showdown with China in 1958. We had 5 carrier groups and hundreds of support and landing ships to invade China over their attack
    on the Taiwan Islands of Quemoy and Matsu. They sunk a number of LST's
    that we transferred to the Taiwan Government. So we happily sunk every
    damned Junk, Sampan, military vessel we could find in return. we sent
    daily flights of armed camera plans all over China without interference.
    Our overall loses consisted of 4 fighters lost in all weather operations
    in heavy fog. China blinked and we went home leaving the Straights open peacefully to international trade. President Eisenhower DID NOT BlINK!
    At that time we had Okinawa, Guam and the Philippines as back up. A
    Democrat gave away our treasure of Okinawa(Earned in blood) and also the Philippines that was taken by Teddy Roosevelt in the Spanish American
    war. to be used for a Secure port. To be governed by a US General. First
    was General Pershing. The last was General MacArthur. The Democrats are
    damned good at getting us into war but useless in preventing them with
    long standing Security moves such as Okinawa, Guam, Philippines etc
    Makes one wonder if the ancestors of our Democrats are what destroyed
    the British Empire? Now you can crawl bak into your bunker and ponder
    Canada's role in partnering with America on the Haarp Program. It is
    starting to show a bit of reviving.

    By the way we celebrated at the end of our visit to China by having a
    Helluva party in 1959 in Hawaii becoming the 50th state right after
    Alaska becoming the 49th. God Bless the real America!

    Lets stop this Charade by making Taiwan a member of NATO...Like the Dems
    are doing t Ukraine. Or maybe even a territory of America.

    bnVsbA==

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  • From 26B.X919@21:1/5 to Leper on Tue Apr 4 20:38:40 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 4/4/23 2:18 PM, Leper wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 12:54 AM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 10:14 PM, 22T.R732 wrote:
    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052


    The Philippines' government has identified four more military
    bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

      Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
      drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
      the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
      Yankees !".


    Zelensky welcomed the US back in a major way. Ukraine is all fucked up
    because of that. The lesson is, everything the US touched will turn to
    shit.

    Whoa! You turned to shit without America laying an hand on you.
    There just is not enough toilet paper to quell your personal problem.


    Someday, maybe, Mighty will be a real boy. But for now
    he's still pooping himself and screaming to Mamma to
    wipe his ass and change his diaper.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Tue Apr 4 21:12:33 2023
    XPost: alt.military, alt.politics, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 4/4/2023 4:10 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 1:52 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 2:15 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 11:00 PM, Dr. Jade Helm wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 8:14 PM, 22T.R732 wrote:
    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052


    The Philippines' government has identified four more military
    bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

       Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
       drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
       the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
       Yankees !".

    China has aggressively bullied its way into fishing waters that
    were historically fished by Vietnam, Cambodia and the Philippines
    while also claiming off=shore gas and oil fields that are similarly
    claimed by those nations.  The Philippines needs the U.S. Navy,
    especially, to take back those areas in the South China sea that
    China is essentially stealing from them.

    We need Subic Bay back and in top fighting condition and the Big AFB
    the same. Thank you Jimmy Carter! You lamebrained Democrat for
    screwing that
    Security plan from the Teddy Roosevelt administration. Our lack of
    presence is exactly what emboldened the ChiComs to pull the crap
    they are now instigating. Taiwan is in their cross-hairs and they
    are not going to stop without military intervention. The Die is set.
    Thank you Democrats for another damned war that need not be.


    There is only "one China" recognized by the United States government
    and all governments in the world, and the current "People's Republic
    of China" (PRC) is the official representative of China in the United
    Nations, not "Republic of China" (Taiwan - ROC). The Republic of
    China's UN seat was removed and replaced with a seat for the People's
    Republic of China on 25 October 1971.

    China and the United Nations
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_the_United_Nations

    "China is one of the charter members of the United Nations and is one
    of five permanent members of its Security Council.

    One of the victorious Allies of World War II (the Chinese theatre of
    which was the Second Sino-Japanese War), the Republic of China (ROC)
    joined the UN upon its founding in 1945. The subsequent resumption of
    the Chinese Civil War led to the establishment of the People's
    Republic of China (PRC) in 1949. Nearly all of Mainland China was
    soon under its control[note 1] and the ROC government retreated to
    the island of Taiwan. The One-China policy advocated by both
    governments dismantled the solution of dual representation but, amid
    the Cold War and Korean War, the United States and its allies opposed
    the replacement of the ROC at the United Nations until 1971, although
    they were persuaded to pressure the government of the ROC to accept
    international recognition of Mongolia's independence in 1961. The
    United Kingdom, France, and other allies of the United States
    individually shifted their recognitions of China to the PRC and
    Albania brought annual votes to replace the ROC with the PRC, but
    these were defeated since—after General Assembly Resolution 1668—a
    change in recognition required a two-thirds vote.

    Amid the Sino-Soviet split and Vietnam War, United States President
    Richard Nixon entered into negotiations with Chinese Communist Party
    Chairman Mao Zedong, initially through a secret 1971 trip undertaken
    by Henry Kissinger to visit Zhou Enlai. On 25 October 1971, Albania's
    motion to recognize the People's Republic of China as the sole legal
    China was passed as General Assembly Resolution 2758. It was
    supported by most of the communist states (including the Soviet
    Union) and non-aligned countries (such as India), but also by some
    NATO countries such as the United Kingdom and France. After the PRC
    was seated on 15 November 1971, Nixon then personally visited
    mainland China the next year, beginning the normalization of PRC-USA
    relations. Since that time, the Republic of China has softened its
    own One-China Policy and sought international recognition. These
    moves have been opposed and mostly blocked by the People's Republic
    of China, forcing the Republic of China to join international
    organizations under other names, including "Chinese Taipei" at the
    International Olympic Committee.

    The Republic of China's most recent request for admission was turned
    down in 2007,[1] but a number of European governments—led by the
    United States—protested to the UN's Office of Legal Affairs to force
    the global body and its secretary-general to stop using the reference
    "Taiwan is a part of China".[2]

    The Republic of China's UN seat was removed and replaced with a seat
    for the People's Republic of China on 25 October 1971.[8]"

    That was a boondoggle by fucking Democrats you one neuron firing brain deprived fool. Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy et al guaranteed Taiwan's independence in order to make it secure and to entice American
    commercial and industrial investment of money,processes and people.


    You have a warped sense of history. I don't blame you. Most Americans
    were ignorant of anything happening in the outside world. Please allow
    me to give you some background history of the Republic of China (ROC)
    and the People's Republic of China (PRC).

    Around the time of the 1900s, the whole world was in turmoil and ready
    for a major change. After WWI, many European countries overthrew their
    monarchs and became republics. China overthrew the Qing Dynasty and
    became a republic around that time. The main revolutionary in
    establishing the Republic of China (ROC) was a character called Dr. Sun
    Yat San who was a Chinese American.

    Because the Chinese tradition of presenting a Chinese name is family
    name first, so Dr. Sun Yat-San's family name (last name) is 'Sun'. So
    Mao Tse-Tung's last name is 'Mao', and Chiang Kai-Shek's last name is
    'Chiang'. (Kim Jong-Un's last name is 'Kim'. Korean culture is very
    close to Chinese culture)

    Dr. Sun Yat San died in the 1920s due to bladder cancer, then the
    Communist Party leader, Mao, and the Nationalist Party leader, Chiang,
    were fighting each other to seize power to become the leader of China.

    The US was backing the Nationalist Chiang, and the Soviet Union was
    backing the Communist Mao.

    During WWII, Chiang and Mao were fighting the Japanese instead of
    fighting each other. The rest is history. WWII ended in 1945, and the
    United Nations was established as the new world order. Five countries,
    namely Britain, France, the US, the USSR, and China (Chiang's Republe of
    China - ROC) were the five founding members and the five permanent
    members of the UN Security Council with veto power.

    Mao and Chiang resumed their civil war after WWII. Mao's Communist Party
    won the civil war in 1949. Chiang was defeated militarily and the whole Nationalist regime was relocated to the island of Taiwan with the help
    of the US 7th Fleet.

    Mao's Communist army didn't have a viable navy so Mao couldn't pursue
    and rout Chiang out of the island of Taiwan. So Chiang set up shop in
    Taiwan as the legitimate government of whole China and continued to hold
    the seat in the United Nations as the true representative of China.
    Chiang was a puppet of the US and ruled with an iron fist. He ruled as a dictator under martial law, much like the US puppet president 'Ngo Dinh
    Diem' of Vietnam in the 1960s, the US puppet president Ferdinand Marcos
    of the Philippines in the 1960s, and the US puppet president Zelensky in
    the Ukraine now.

    Chiang was hoping the US would use American military might to help him
    fight his way back into China, but the US kept giving Chiang empty
    promises and Chiang's military was too weak to rout Mao's communists out
    of China on its own.

    So after 1945, the US puppet Chiang was the phony Chinese president who
    was voting in the UN Security Council as the legitimate representative
    of China. Eventually every country in the world noticed that it was a
    farce, and the legitimacy of the United Nations was at stake because the
    US was backing a phony as the legitimate holder of the seat of China in
    the United Nations. So in 1971, the US was forced to revert the title to
    Mao's PRC as the legitimate government of China together with the veto
    power in the UN Security Council.

    Chiang's Chinese Nationalist Party never showed any intention of
    becoming 'independent'. Instead, Chiang's Chinese Nationalist Party in
    Taiwan insisted on fighting back into mainland China. It is only after
    the 1990s that Taiwan ROC saw the rise of the PRC militarily and
    economically that it finally realize that fighting back into mainland
    China is a pipe dream and started its deceitful plan of 'independence'.

    China's leadership has always made it clear that China will militarily
    take back Taiwan the day Taiwan declares independence. The stupid twat president in Taiwan is just trying to turn Taiwan into another failed
    state like Zelensky did to Ukraine today by stirring the 'independence'
    shit. The US simply does not have the legitimacy or the military might
    to stop China PRC to take back the sovereignty of Taiwan.



    And we lived up to that promise. To break that promise our morons in
    charge will have shot our own industrial American Giants in the back,
    along with Taiwan's Trust in us. Dishonoring our agreements. If you
    think China is going to stop with Taiwan, you are a bigger idiot then
    our Biden. We had a showdown with China in 1958. We had 5 carrier
    groups and hundreds of support and landing ships to invade China over
    their attack on the Taiwan Islands of Quemoy and Matsu. They sunk a
    number of LST's that we transferred to the Taiwan Government. So we
    happily sunk every
    damned Junk, Sampan, military vessel we could find in return. we sent
    daily flights of armed camera plans all over China without interference.
    Our overall loses consisted of 4 fighters lost in all weather
    operations in heavy fog. China blinked and we went home leaving the
    Straights open peacefully to international trade. President Eisenhower
    DID NOT BlINK!
    At that time we had Okinawa, Guam and the Philippines as back up. A
    Democrat gave away our treasure of Okinawa(Earned in blood) and also
    the Philippines that was taken by Teddy Roosevelt in the Spanish
    American war. to be used for a Secure port. To be governed by a US
    General. First was General Pershing. The last was General MacArthur.
    The Democrats are damned good at getting us into war but useless in preventing them with long standing Security moves such as Okinawa,
    Guam, Philippines etc
    Makes one wonder if the ancestors of our Democrats are what destroyed
    the British Empire? Now you can crawl bak into your bunker and ponder Canada's role in partnering with America on the Haarp Program. It is
    starting to show a bit of reviving.

    By the way we celebrated at the end of our visit to China by having a
    Helluva party in 1959 in Hawaii becoming the 50th state right after
    Alaska becoming the 49th. God Bless the real America!

    Lets stop this Charade by making Taiwan a member of NATO...Like the
    Dems are doing t Ukraine. Or maybe even a territory of America.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 6 05:20:35 2023
    XPost: alt.military, alt.politics, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 4/4/2023 8:12 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 4:10 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 1:52 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 2:15 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 11:00 PM, Dr. Jade Helm wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 8:14 PM, 22T.R732 wrote:
    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052

    The Philippines' government has identified four more military
    bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

       Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
       drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
       the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
       Yankees !".

    China has aggressively bullied its way into fishing waters that
    were historically fished by Vietnam, Cambodia and the Philippines
    while also claiming off=shore gas and oil fields that are similarly
    claimed by those nations.  The Philippines needs the U.S. Navy,
    especially, to take back those areas in the South China sea that
    China is essentially stealing from them.

    We need Subic Bay back and in top fighting condition and the Big AFB
    the same. Thank you Jimmy Carter! You lamebrained Democrat for
    screwing that
    Security plan from the Teddy Roosevelt administration. Our lack of
    presence is exactly what emboldened the ChiComs to pull the crap
    they are now instigating. Taiwan is in their cross-hairs and they
    are not going to stop without military intervention. The Die is set.
    Thank you Democrats for another damned war that need not be.


    There is only "one China" recognized by the United States government
    and all governments in the world, and the current "People's Republic
    of China" (PRC) is the official representative of China in the United
    Nations, not "Republic of China" (Taiwan - ROC). The Republic of
    China's UN seat was removed and replaced with a seat for the People's
    Republic of China on 25 October 1971.

    China and the United Nations
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_the_United_Nations

    "China is one of the charter members of the United Nations and is one
    of five permanent members of its Security Council.

    One of the victorious Allies of World War II (the Chinese theatre of
    which was the Second Sino-Japanese War), the Republic of China (ROC)
    joined the UN upon its founding in 1945. The subsequent resumption of
    the Chinese Civil War led to the establishment of the People's
    Republic of China (PRC) in 1949. Nearly all of Mainland China was
    soon under its control[note 1] and the ROC government retreated to
    the island of Taiwan. The One-China policy advocated by both
    governments dismantled the solution of dual representation but, amid
    the Cold War and Korean War, the United States and its allies opposed
    the replacement of the ROC at the United Nations until 1971, although
    they were persuaded to pressure the government of the ROC to accept
    international recognition of Mongolia's independence in 1961. The
    United Kingdom, France, and other allies of the United States
    individually shifted their recognitions of China to the PRC and
    Albania brought annual votes to replace the ROC with the PRC, but
    these were defeated since—after General Assembly Resolution 1668—a
    change in recognition required a two-thirds vote.

    Amid the Sino-Soviet split and Vietnam War, United States President
    Richard Nixon entered into negotiations with Chinese Communist Party
    Chairman Mao Zedong, initially through a secret 1971 trip undertaken
    by Henry Kissinger to visit Zhou Enlai. On 25 October 1971, Albania's
    motion to recognize the People's Republic of China as the sole legal
    China was passed as General Assembly Resolution 2758. It was
    supported by most of the communist states (including the Soviet
    Union) and non-aligned countries (such as India), but also by some
    NATO countries such as the United Kingdom and France. After the PRC
    was seated on 15 November 1971, Nixon then personally visited
    mainland China the next year, beginning the normalization of PRC-USA
    relations. Since that time, the Republic of China has softened its
    own One-China Policy and sought international recognition. These
    moves have been opposed and mostly blocked by the People's Republic
    of China, forcing the Republic of China to join international
    organizations under other names, including "Chinese Taipei" at the
    International Olympic Committee.

    The Republic of China's most recent request for admission was turned
    down in 2007,[1] but a number of European governments—led by the
    United States—protested to the UN's Office of Legal Affairs to force
    the global body and its secretary-general to stop using the reference
    "Taiwan is a part of China".[2]

    The Republic of China's UN seat was removed and replaced with a seat
    for the People's Republic of China on 25 October 1971.[8]"

    That was a boondoggle by fucking Democrats you one neuron firing brain
    deprived fool. Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy et al guaranteed Taiwan's
    independence in order to make it secure and to entice American
    commercial and industrial investment of money,processes and people.


    You have a warped sense of history. I don't blame you. Most Americans
    were ignorant of anything happening in the outside world. Please allow
    me to give you some background history of the Republic of China (ROC)
    and the People's Republic of China (PRC).

    Around the time of the 1900s, the whole world was in turmoil and ready
    for a major change. After WWI, many European countries overthrew their monarchs and became republics. China overthrew the Qing Dynasty and
    became a republic around that time. The main revolutionary in
    establishing the Republic of China (ROC) was a character called Dr. Sun
    Yat San who was a Chinese American.

    Because the Chinese tradition of presenting a Chinese name is family
    name first, so Dr. Sun Yat-San's family name (last name) is 'Sun'. So
    Mao Tse-Tung's last name is 'Mao', and Chiang Kai-Shek's last name is 'Chiang'. (Kim Jong-Un's last name is 'Kim'. Korean culture is very
    close to Chinese culture)

    Dr. Sun Yat San died in the 1920s due to bladder cancer, then the
    Communist Party leader, Mao, and the Nationalist Party leader, Chiang,
    were fighting each other to seize power to become the leader of China.

    The US was backing the Nationalist Chiang, and the Soviet Union was
    backing the Communist Mao.

    During WWII, Chiang and Mao were fighting the Japanese instead of
    fighting each other. The rest is history. WWII ended in 1945, and the
    United Nations was established as the new world order. Five countries,
    namely Britain, France, the US, the USSR, and China (Chiang's Republe of China - ROC) were the five founding members and the five permanent
    members of the UN Security Council with veto power.

    Mao and Chiang resumed their civil war after WWII. Mao's Communist Party
    won the civil war in 1949. Chiang was defeated militarily and the whole Nationalist regime was relocated to the island of Taiwan with the help
    of the US 7th Fleet.

    Mao's Communist army didn't have a viable navy so Mao couldn't pursue
    and rout Chiang out of the island of Taiwan. So Chiang set up shop in
    Taiwan as the legitimate government of whole China and continued to hold
    the seat in the United Nations as the true representative of China.
    Chiang was a puppet of the US and ruled with an iron fist. He ruled as a dictator under martial law, much like the US puppet president 'Ngo Dinh
    Diem' of Vietnam in the 1960s, the US puppet president Ferdinand Marcos
    of the Philippines in the 1960s, and the US puppet president Zelensky in
    the Ukraine now.

    Chiang was hoping the US would use American military might to help him
    fight his way back into China, but the US kept giving Chiang empty
    promises and Chiang's military was too weak to rout Mao's communists out
    of China on its own.

    So after 1945, the US puppet Chiang was the phony Chinese president who
    was voting in the UN Security Council as the legitimate representative
    of China. Eventually every country in the world noticed that it was a
    farce, and the legitimacy of the United Nations was at stake because the
    US was backing a phony as the legitimate holder of the seat of China in
    the United Nations. So in 1971, the US was forced to revert the title to Mao's PRC as the legitimate government of China together with the veto
    power in the UN Security Council.

    Chiang's Chinese Nationalist Party never showed any intention of
    becoming 'independent'. Instead, Chiang's Chinese Nationalist Party in
    Taiwan insisted on fighting back into mainland China. It is only after
    the 1990s that Taiwan ROC saw the rise of the PRC militarily and
    economically that it finally realize that fighting back into mainland
    China is a pipe dream and started its deceitful plan of 'independence'.

    China's leadership has always made it clear that China will militarily
    take back Taiwan the day Taiwan declares independence. The stupid twat president in Taiwan is just trying to turn Taiwan into another failed
    state like Zelensky did to Ukraine today by stirring the 'independence'
    shit. The US simply does not have the legitimacy or the military might
    to stop China PRC to take back the sovereignty of Taiwan.

    All territories can be taken by force. Taiwan sure as Hell is
    sovereign! But only to itself. Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam were once all
    slave territories of China during the dynasty wars. Today China is hated
    by all of them. Your one neuron firing brain should study the history of
    the entire world before you mouth off about one greedy countries daydreams.



    And we lived up to that promise. To break that promise our morons in
    charge will have shot our own industrial American Giants in the back,
    along with Taiwan's Trust in us. Dishonoring our agreements. If you
    think China is going to stop with Taiwan, you are a bigger idiot then
    our Biden. We had a showdown with China in 1958. We had 5 carrier
    groups and hundreds of support and landing ships to invade China over
    their attack on the Taiwan Islands of Quemoy and Matsu. They sunk a
    number of LST's that we transferred to the Taiwan Government. So we
    happily sunk every
    damned Junk, Sampan, military vessel we could find in return. we sent
    daily flights of armed camera plans all over China without interference.
    Our overall loses consisted of 4 fighters lost in all weather
    operations in heavy fog. China blinked and we went home leaving the
    Straights open peacefully to international trade. President Eisenhower
    DID NOT BlINK!
    At that time we had Okinawa, Guam and the Philippines as back up. A
    Democrat gave away our treasure of Okinawa(Earned in blood) and also
    the Philippines that was taken by Teddy Roosevelt in the Spanish
    American war. to be used for a Secure port. To be governed by a US
    General. First was General Pershing. The last was General MacArthur.
    The Democrats are damned good at getting us into war but useless in
    preventing them with long standing Security moves such as Okinawa,
    Guam, Philippines etc
    Makes one wonder if the ancestors of our Democrats are what destroyed
    the British Empire? Now you can crawl bak into your bunker and ponder
    Canada's role in partnering with America on the Haarp Program. It is
    starting to show a bit of reviving.

    By the way we celebrated at the end of our visit to China by having a
    Helluva party in 1959 in Hawaii becoming the 50th state right after
    Alaska becoming the 49th. God Bless the real America!

    Lets stop this Charade by making Taiwan a member of NATO...Like the
    Dems are doing t Ukraine. Or maybe even a territory of America.

    I flipped cigarette butts on the waters of the South China seas after we
    sunk any god damned Chinese warship that challenged us in 1958.
    President Eisenhower stated America's support of Taiwan....Loud and
    clear. We landed US Marines on Matsu/Quemoy to stop any invasion from
    the Chicoms. An Ex-governor of our state passed a couple of years ago
    and was a Marine that was wounded there. If China cannot reconcile with America, we WILL kick their ass. Same for you commy cocksukers that keep
    trying to destroy all that is good in the world.


    bnVsbA==

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Thu Apr 6 08:42:16 2023
    XPost: alt.military, alt.politics, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 4/6/2023 6:20 AM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 8:12 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 4:10 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 1:52 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 2:15 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 11:00 PM, Dr. Jade Helm wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 8:14 PM, 22T.R732 wrote:
    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052


    The Philippines' government has identified four more military
    bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

       Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
       drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
       the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
       Yankees !".

    China has aggressively bullied its way into fishing waters that
    were historically fished by Vietnam, Cambodia and the Philippines
    while also claiming off=shore gas and oil fields that are
    similarly claimed by those nations.  The Philippines needs the
    U.S. Navy, especially, to take back those areas in the South
    China sea that China is essentially stealing from them.

    We need Subic Bay back and in top fighting condition and the Big
    AFB the same. Thank you Jimmy Carter! You lamebrained Democrat for
    screwing that
    Security plan from the Teddy Roosevelt administration. Our lack of
    presence is exactly what emboldened the ChiComs to pull the crap
    they are now instigating. Taiwan is in their cross-hairs and they
    are not going to stop without military intervention. The Die is
    set. Thank you Democrats for another damned war that need not be.


    There is only "one China" recognized by the United States
    government and all governments in the world, and the current
    "People's Republic of China" (PRC) is the official representative
    of China in the United Nations, not "Republic of China" (Taiwan -
    ROC). The Republic of China's UN seat was removed and replaced with
    a seat for the People's Republic of China on 25 October 1971.

    China and the United Nations
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_the_United_Nations

    "China is one of the charter members of the United Nations and is
    one of five permanent members of its Security Council.

    One of the victorious Allies of World War II (the Chinese theatre
    of which was the Second Sino-Japanese War), the Republic of China
    (ROC) joined the UN upon its founding in 1945. The subsequent
    resumption of the Chinese Civil War led to the establishment of the
    People's Republic of China (PRC) in 1949. Nearly all of Mainland
    China was soon under its control[note 1] and the ROC government
    retreated to the island of Taiwan. The One-China policy advocated
    by both governments dismantled the solution of dual representation
    but, amid the Cold War and Korean War, the United States and its
    allies opposed the replacement of the ROC at the United Nations
    until 1971, although they were persuaded to pressure the government
    of the ROC to accept international recognition of Mongolia's
    independence in 1961. The United Kingdom, France, and other allies
    of the United States individually shifted their recognitions of
    China to the PRC and Albania brought annual votes to replace the
    ROC with the PRC, but these were defeated since—after General
    Assembly Resolution 1668—a change in recognition required a
    two-thirds vote.

    Amid the Sino-Soviet split and Vietnam War, United States President
    Richard Nixon entered into negotiations with Chinese Communist
    Party Chairman Mao Zedong, initially through a secret 1971 trip
    undertaken by Henry Kissinger to visit Zhou Enlai. On 25 October
    1971, Albania's motion to recognize the People's Republic of China
    as the sole legal China was passed as General Assembly Resolution
    2758. It was supported by most of the communist states (including
    the Soviet Union) and non-aligned countries (such as India), but
    also by some NATO countries such as the United Kingdom and France.
    After the PRC was seated on 15 November 1971, Nixon then personally
    visited mainland China the next year, beginning the normalization
    of PRC-USA relations. Since that time, the Republic of China has
    softened its own One-China Policy and sought international
    recognition. These moves have been opposed and mostly blocked by
    the People's Republic of China, forcing the Republic of China to
    join international organizations under other names, including
    "Chinese Taipei" at the International Olympic Committee.

    The Republic of China's most recent request for admission was
    turned down in 2007,[1] but a number of European governments—led by
    the United States—protested to the UN's Office of Legal Affairs to
    force the global body and its secretary-general to stop using the
    reference "Taiwan is a part of China".[2]

    The Republic of China's UN seat was removed and replaced with a
    seat for the People's Republic of China on 25 October 1971.[8]"

    That was a boondoggle by fucking Democrats you one neuron firing
    brain deprived fool. Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy et al guaranteed
    Taiwan's independence in order to make it secure and to entice
    American commercial and industrial investment of money,processes and
    people.


    You have a warped sense of history. I don't blame you. Most Americans
    were ignorant of anything happening in the outside world. Please
    allow me to give you some background history of the Republic of China
    (ROC) and the People's Republic of China (PRC).

    Around the time of the 1900s, the whole world was in turmoil and
    ready for a major change. After WWI, many European countries
    overthrew their monarchs and became republics. China overthrew the
    Qing Dynasty and became a republic around that time. The main
    revolutionary in establishing the Republic of China (ROC) was a
    character called Dr. Sun Yat San who was a Chinese American.

    Because the Chinese tradition of presenting a Chinese name is family
    name first, so Dr. Sun Yat-San's family name (last name) is 'Sun'. So
    Mao Tse-Tung's last name is 'Mao', and Chiang Kai-Shek's last name is
    'Chiang'. (Kim Jong-Un's last name is 'Kim'. Korean culture is very
    close to Chinese culture)

    Dr. Sun Yat San died in the 1920s due to bladder cancer, then the
    Communist Party leader, Mao, and the Nationalist Party leader,
    Chiang, were fighting each other to seize power to become the leader
    of China.

    The US was backing the Nationalist Chiang, and the Soviet Union was
    backing the Communist Mao.

    During WWII, Chiang and Mao were fighting the Japanese instead of
    fighting each other. The rest is history. WWII ended in 1945, and the
    United Nations was established as the new world order. Five
    countries, namely Britain, France, the US, the USSR, and China
    (Chiang's Republe of China - ROC) were the five founding members and
    the five permanent members of the UN Security Council with veto power.

    Mao and Chiang resumed their civil war after WWII. Mao's Communist
    Party won the civil war in 1949. Chiang was defeated militarily and
    the whole Nationalist regime was relocated to the island of Taiwan
    with the help of the US 7th Fleet.

    Mao's Communist army didn't have a viable navy so Mao couldn't pursue
    and rout Chiang out of the island of Taiwan. So Chiang set up shop in
    Taiwan as the legitimate government of whole China and continued to
    hold the seat in the United Nations as the true representative of
    China. Chiang was a puppet of the US and ruled with an iron fist. He
    ruled as a dictator under martial law, much like the US puppet
    president 'Ngo Dinh Diem' of Vietnam in the 1960s, the US puppet
    president Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines in the 1960s, and the
    US puppet president Zelensky in the Ukraine now.

    Chiang was hoping the US would use American military might to help
    him fight his way back into China, but the US kept giving Chiang
    empty promises and Chiang's military was too weak to rout Mao's
    communists out of China on its own.

    So after 1945, the US puppet Chiang was the phony Chinese president
    who was voting in the UN Security Council as the legitimate
    representative of China. Eventually every country in the world
    noticed that it was a farce, and the legitimacy of the United Nations
    was at stake because the US was backing a phony as the legitimate
    holder of the seat of China in the United Nations. So in 1971, the US
    was forced to revert the title to Mao's PRC as the legitimate
    government of China together with the veto power in the UN Security
    Council.

    Chiang's Chinese Nationalist Party never showed any intention of
    becoming 'independent'. Instead, Chiang's Chinese Nationalist Party
    in Taiwan insisted on fighting back into mainland China. It is only
    after the 1990s that Taiwan ROC saw the rise of the PRC militarily
    and economically that it finally realize that fighting back into
    mainland China is a pipe dream and started its deceitful plan of
    'independence'.

    China's leadership has always made it clear that China will
    militarily take back Taiwan the day Taiwan declares independence. The
    stupid twat president in Taiwan is just trying to turn Taiwan into
    another failed state like Zelensky did to Ukraine today by stirring
    the 'independence' shit. The US simply does not have the legitimacy
    or the military might to stop China PRC to take back the sovereignty
    of Taiwan.

    All territories can be taken  by force. Taiwan sure as Hell is
    sovereign! But only to itself.

    You should Google your shit before you spout your BS. Taiwan island's
    old name was "Formosa", which is Portuguese language, and then it was
    shortly ruled by Japan because the old Chinese Qing Dynasty was not a
    sea power.

    Cambodia,


    You should Google your shit before you spout your BS. Cambodia had not
    be a Chinese "slave power". Cambodia has its own spoken and written
    language which is completely different from the Chinese language. In
    fact, Cambodia was a British colony before WWII. That tells you how
    powerful the British Empire once was.


    Thailand,

    You should Google your shit before you spout your BS. Thailand has its
    own written and spoken languish and had never been a colony of any country.


    Vietnam

    You should Google your shit before you spout your BS. Vietnam has its
    own spoken and written language. Vietnam has Chinese cultural influence
    because Vietnam is a coastal country very close to China (the old Silk
    Road was the reason), but Vietnam was never ruled by China. The Chinese cultural influence is evident in Vietnamese names like "Ho Chi Minh"
    which resemble Chinese names. Vietnam was a French colony before WWII.

    were once all slave territories of China during the dynasty wars.

    I have just dispelled your BS.

    Today China is hated by all of them. Your one neuron firing brain
    should study the history of the entire world before you mouth off
    about one greedy countries daydreams.

    You are describing the greedy USA.




    And we lived up to that promise. To break that promise our morons in
    charge will have shot our own industrial American Giants in the
    back, along with Taiwan's Trust in us. Dishonoring our agreements.
    If you think China is going to stop with Taiwan, you are a bigger
    idiot then our Biden. We had a showdown with China in 1958. We had 5
    carrier groups and hundreds of support and landing ships to invade
    China over their attack on the Taiwan Islands of Quemoy and Matsu.
    They sunk a number of LST's that we transferred to the Taiwan
    Government. So we happily sunk every
    damned Junk, Sampan, military vessel we could find in return. we
    sent daily flights of armed camera plans all over China without
    interference.
    Our overall loses consisted of 4 fighters lost in all weather
    operations in heavy fog. China blinked and we went home leaving the
    Straights open peacefully to international trade. President
    Eisenhower DID NOT BlINK!
    At that time we had Okinawa, Guam and the Philippines as back up. A
    Democrat gave away our treasure of Okinawa(Earned in blood) and also
    the Philippines that was taken by Teddy Roosevelt in the Spanish
    American war. to be used for a Secure port. To be governed by a US
    General. First was General Pershing. The last was General MacArthur.
    The Democrats are damned good at getting us into war but useless in
    preventing them with long standing Security moves such as Okinawa,
    Guam, Philippines etc
    Makes one wonder if the ancestors of our Democrats are what
    destroyed the British Empire? Now you can crawl bak into your bunker
    and ponder Canada's role in partnering with America on the Haarp
    Program. It is starting to show a bit of reviving.

    By the way we celebrated at the end of our visit to China by having
    a Helluva party in 1959 in Hawaii becoming the 50th state right
    after Alaska becoming the 49th. God Bless the real America!

    Lets stop this Charade by making Taiwan a member of NATO...Like the
    Dems are doing t Ukraine. Or maybe even a territory of America.

    I flipped cigarette butts on the waters of the South China seas after
    we sunk any god damned Chinese warship that challenged us in 1958.

    The British Empire once kicked your arse. Our Redcoats once smashed all
    the way into Washington to teach you a lesson. But that's faded glory,
    much like you are now.

    President Eisenhower stated America's support of Taiwan....Loud and
    clear.

    China has a bigger navy than the US now. You'd better Google. China can
    kick your arse in the South China Sea. I hope your idiots in the
    Pentagon won't ask to be humiliated. Empires rise and fall. You are
    following the footsteps of the old British Empire. Nothing is forever.
    Face reality.

    We landed US Marines on Matsu/Quemoy to stop any invasion from the
    Chicoms. An Ex-governor of our state passed a couple of years ago and
    was a Marine that was wounded there. If China cannot reconcile with
    America, we WILL kick their ass. Same for you commy cocksukers that
    keep trying to destroy all that is good in the world.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 7 03:42:17 2023
    XPost: alt.military, alt.politics, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 4/6/2023 7:42 AM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/6/2023 6:20 AM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 8:12 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 4:10 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 1:52 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 2:15 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 11:00 PM, Dr. Jade Helm wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 8:14 PM, 22T.R732 wrote:
    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052

    The Philippines' government has identified four more military
    bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

       Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
       drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
       the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
       Yankees !".

    China has aggressively bullied its way into fishing waters that
    were historically fished by Vietnam, Cambodia and the Philippines >>>>>>> while also claiming off=shore gas and oil fields that are
    similarly claimed by those nations.  The Philippines needs the
    U.S. Navy, especially, to take back those areas in the South
    China sea that China is essentially stealing from them.

    We need Subic Bay back and in top fighting condition and the Big
    AFB the same. Thank you Jimmy Carter! You lamebrained Democrat for >>>>>> screwing that
    Security plan from the Teddy Roosevelt administration. Our lack of >>>>>> presence is exactly what emboldened the ChiComs to pull the crap
    they are now instigating. Taiwan is in their cross-hairs and they
    are not going to stop without military intervention. The Die is
    set. Thank you Democrats for another damned war that need not be.


    There is only "one China" recognized by the United States
    government and all governments in the world, and the current
    "People's Republic of China" (PRC) is the official representative
    of China in the United Nations, not "Republic of China" (Taiwan -
    ROC). The Republic of China's UN seat was removed and replaced with
    a seat for the People's Republic of China on 25 October 1971.

    China and the United Nations
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_the_United_Nations

    "China is one of the charter members of the United Nations and is
    one of five permanent members of its Security Council.

    One of the victorious Allies of World War II (the Chinese theatre
    of which was the Second Sino-Japanese War), the Republic of China
    (ROC) joined the UN upon its founding in 1945. The subsequent
    resumption of the Chinese Civil War led to the establishment of the
    People's Republic of China (PRC) in 1949. Nearly all of Mainland
    China was soon under its control[note 1] and the ROC government
    retreated to the island of Taiwan. The One-China policy advocated
    by both governments dismantled the solution of dual representation
    but, amid the Cold War and Korean War, the United States and its
    allies opposed the replacement of the ROC at the United Nations
    until 1971, although they were persuaded to pressure the government
    of the ROC to accept international recognition of Mongolia's
    independence in 1961. The United Kingdom, France, and other allies
    of the United States individually shifted their recognitions of
    China to the PRC and Albania brought annual votes to replace the
    ROC with the PRC, but these were defeated since—after General
    Assembly Resolution 1668—a change in recognition required a
    two-thirds vote.

    Amid the Sino-Soviet split and Vietnam War, United States President
    Richard Nixon entered into negotiations with Chinese Communist
    Party Chairman Mao Zedong, initially through a secret 1971 trip
    undertaken by Henry Kissinger to visit Zhou Enlai. On 25 October
    1971, Albania's motion to recognize the People's Republic of China
    as the sole legal China was passed as General Assembly Resolution
    2758. It was supported by most of the communist states (including
    the Soviet Union) and non-aligned countries (such as India), but
    also by some NATO countries such as the United Kingdom and France.
    After the PRC was seated on 15 November 1971, Nixon then personally
    visited mainland China the next year, beginning the normalization
    of PRC-USA relations. Since that time, the Republic of China has
    softened its own One-China Policy and sought international
    recognition. These moves have been opposed and mostly blocked by
    the People's Republic of China, forcing the Republic of China to
    join international organizations under other names, including
    "Chinese Taipei" at the International Olympic Committee.

    The Republic of China's most recent request for admission was
    turned down in 2007,[1] but a number of European governments—led by >>>>> the United States—protested to the UN's Office of Legal Affairs to >>>>> force the global body and its secretary-general to stop using the
    reference "Taiwan is a part of China".[2]

    The Republic of China's UN seat was removed and replaced with a
    seat for the People's Republic of China on 25 October 1971.[8]"

    That was a boondoggle by fucking Democrats you one neuron firing
    brain deprived fool. Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy et al guaranteed
    Taiwan's independence in order to make it secure and to entice
    American commercial and industrial investment of money,processes and
    people.


    You have a warped sense of history. I don't blame you. Most Americans
    were ignorant of anything happening in the outside world. Please
    allow me to give you some background history of the Republic of China
    (ROC) and the People's Republic of China (PRC).

    Around the time of the 1900s, the whole world was in turmoil and
    ready for a major change. After WWI, many European countries
    overthrew their monarchs and became republics. China overthrew the
    Qing Dynasty and became a republic around that time. The main
    revolutionary in establishing the Republic of China (ROC) was a
    character called Dr. Sun Yat San who was a Chinese American.

    Because the Chinese tradition of presenting a Chinese name is family
    name first, so Dr. Sun Yat-San's family name (last name) is 'Sun'. So
    Mao Tse-Tung's last name is 'Mao', and Chiang Kai-Shek's last name is
    'Chiang'. (Kim Jong-Un's last name is 'Kim'. Korean culture is very
    close to Chinese culture)

    Dr. Sun Yat San died in the 1920s due to bladder cancer, then the
    Communist Party leader, Mao, and the Nationalist Party leader,
    Chiang, were fighting each other to seize power to become the leader
    of China.

    The US was backing the Nationalist Chiang, and the Soviet Union was
    backing the Communist Mao.

    During WWII, Chiang and Mao were fighting the Japanese instead of
    fighting each other. The rest is history. WWII ended in 1945, and the
    United Nations was established as the new world order. Five
    countries, namely Britain, France, the US, the USSR, and China
    (Chiang's Republe of China - ROC) were the five founding members and
    the five permanent members of the UN Security Council with veto power.

    Mao and Chiang resumed their civil war after WWII. Mao's Communist
    Party won the civil war in 1949. Chiang was defeated militarily and
    the whole Nationalist regime was relocated to the island of Taiwan
    with the help of the US 7th Fleet.

    Mao's Communist army didn't have a viable navy so Mao couldn't pursue
    and rout Chiang out of the island of Taiwan. So Chiang set up shop in
    Taiwan as the legitimate government of whole China and continued to
    hold the seat in the United Nations as the true representative of
    China. Chiang was a puppet of the US and ruled with an iron fist. He
    ruled as a dictator under martial law, much like the US puppet
    president 'Ngo Dinh Diem' of Vietnam in the 1960s, the US puppet
    president Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines in the 1960s, and the
    US puppet president Zelensky in the Ukraine now.

    Chiang was hoping the US would use American military might to help
    him fight his way back into China, but the US kept giving Chiang
    empty promises and Chiang's military was too weak to rout Mao's
    communists out of China on its own.

    So after 1945, the US puppet Chiang was the phony Chinese president
    who was voting in the UN Security Council as the legitimate
    representative of China. Eventually every country in the world
    noticed that it was a farce, and the legitimacy of the United Nations
    was at stake because the US was backing a phony as the legitimate
    holder of the seat of China in the United Nations. So in 1971, the US
    was forced to revert the title to Mao's PRC as the legitimate
    government of China together with the veto power in the UN Security
    Council.

    Chiang's Chinese Nationalist Party never showed any intention of
    becoming 'independent'. Instead, Chiang's Chinese Nationalist Party
    in Taiwan insisted on fighting back into mainland China. It is only
    after the 1990s that Taiwan ROC saw the rise of the PRC militarily
    and economically that it finally realize that fighting back into
    mainland China is a pipe dream and started its deceitful plan of
    'independence'.

    China's leadership has always made it clear that China will
    militarily take back Taiwan the day Taiwan declares independence. The
    stupid twat president in Taiwan is just trying to turn Taiwan into
    another failed state like Zelensky did to Ukraine today by stirring
    the 'independence' shit. The US simply does not have the legitimacy
    or the military might to stop China PRC to take back the sovereignty
    of Taiwan.

    All territories can be taken  by force. Taiwan sure as Hell is
    sovereign! But only to itself.

    You should Google your shit before you spout your BS. Taiwan island's
    old name was "Formosa", which is Portuguese language, and then it was
    shortly ruled by Japan because the old Chinese Qing Dynasty was not a
    sea power.

    Cambodia,


    You should Google your shit before you spout your BS. Cambodia had not language which is completely different from the Chinese language. In
    fact, Cambodia was a British colony before WWII. That tells you how
    powerful the British Empire once was.


    Thailand,

    You should Google your shit before you spout your BS. Thailand has its
    own written and spoken languish and had never been a colony of any country.


    Vietnam

    You should Google your shit before you spout your BS. Vietnam has its
    own spoken and written language. Vietnam has Chinese cultural influence because Vietnam is a coastal country very close to China (the old Silk
    Road was the reason), but Vietnam was never ruled by China. The Chinese cultural influence is evident in Vietnamese names like "Ho Chi Minh"
    which resemble Chinese names. Vietnam was a French colony before WWII.

    were once all slave territories of China during the dynasty wars.

    I have just dispelled your BS.

    Today China is hated by all of them. Your one neuron firing brain
    should study the history of the entire world before you mouth off
    about one greedy countries daydreams.

    You are describing the greedy USA.




    And we lived up to that promise. To break that promise our morons in
    charge will have shot our own industrial American Giants in the
    back, along with Taiwan's Trust in us. Dishonoring our agreements.
    If you think China is going to stop with Taiwan, you are a bigger
    idiot then our Biden. We had a showdown with China in 1958. We had 5
    carrier groups and hundreds of support and landing ships to invade
    China over their attack on the Taiwan Islands of Quemoy and Matsu.
    They sunk a number of LST's that we transferred to the Taiwan
    Government. So we happily sunk every
    damned Junk, Sampan, military vessel we could find in return. we
    sent daily flights of armed camera plans all over China without
    interference.
    Our overall loses consisted of 4 fighters lost in all weather
    operations in heavy fog. China blinked and we went home leaving the
    Straights open peacefully to international trade. President
    Eisenhower DID NOT BlINK!
    At that time we had Okinawa, Guam and the Philippines as back up. A
    Democrat gave away our treasure of Okinawa(Earned in blood) and also
    the Philippines that was taken by Teddy Roosevelt in the Spanish
    American war. to be used for a Secure port. To be governed by a US
    General. First was General Pershing. The last was General MacArthur.
    The Democrats are damned good at getting us into war but useless in
    preventing them with long standing Security moves such as Okinawa,
    Guam, Philippines etc
    Makes one wonder if the ancestors of our Democrats are what
    destroyed the British Empire? Now you can crawl bak into your bunker
    and ponder Canada's role in partnering with America on the Haarp
    Program. It is starting to show a bit of reviving.

    By the way we celebrated at the end of our visit to China by having
    a Helluva party in 1959 in Hawaii becoming the 50th state right
    after Alaska becoming the 49th. God Bless the real America!

    Lets stop this Charade by making Taiwan a member of NATO...Like the
    Dems are doing t Ukraine. Or maybe even a territory of America.

    I flipped cigarette butts on the waters of the South China seas after
    we sunk any god damned Chinese warship that challenged us in 1958.

    The British Empire once kicked your arse. Our Redcoats once smashed all
    the way into Washington to teach you a lesson. But that's faded glory,
    much like you are now.

    You seem to forget that our Ancestors sent King Georges Elite troops
    packing much earlier. In fact the very same bloodline French gave us a
    bit of a hand and then took over part of Canada. As for the demise of
    the British Empire, Don't you think that was from too many of you
    buttfucking each other rather then paying attention to business. India
    bitch slapped you folks right back to your inconsequential Islands.
    Tiny Ireland has the Mighty English crapping their britches for centuries.
    That was basically because nobody was interested in a meaningless war.
    If Teddy Roosevelt had his way, Canada would be a vassal state of
    America. You of course would be a permanent inmate at some Institute for
    the criminally insane. Neutered and declawed of course.


    President Eisenhower stated America's support of Taiwan....Loud and
    clear.

    China has a bigger navy than the US now. You'd better Google. China can
    kick your arse in the South China Sea. I hope your idiots in the
    Pentagon won't ask to be humiliated. Empires rise and fall. You are
    following the footsteps of the old British Empire. Nothing is forever.
    Face reality.


    If that was so, Why have they not done so?
    If trade though those waters ceases, China will have 1.4 Billion
    unemployed, hungry and very pissed off citizens. Right now they are
    employing their own citizens to tear down the New unoccupied cities
    They built to make-do jobs. Has it occurred to you that many of your new citizens are Chinese leaving China? Many Chinese are also moving to the Philippines and elsewhere. You of course hang out here in hopes of
    getting a pass to move to America.

    We landed US Marines on Matsu/Quemoy to stop any invasion from the
    Chicoms. An Ex-governor of our state passed a couple of years ago and
    was a Marine that was wounded there. If China cannot reconcile with
    America, we WILL kick their ass. Same for you commy cocksukers that
    keep trying to destroy all that is good in the world.

    The History of that region of the world began long before the Brits got involved in the 1800's. China subjugated damned near every Asian based
    country before and during the Dynasty wars. The very name "Vietnam"
    means Kings land or property...Referring to the Emperor of China. The
    land of Cam became Cambodia after it broke free. Ancient Mongolia went
    after China's assets in a big way. Every hear of the great wall of
    China, Dumb ass? I guess that one neuron firing mind of yours just isn't
    up to snuff.
    Not only are you vastly ignorant of the History of the Asian rim, but
    are an annoyance to the world. Have you considered returning to whatever
    planet of insanity that bred you?



    bnVsbA==

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+YjiBNaWdodHkgV2FubmFiZ@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Fri Apr 7 11:53:16 2023
    XPost: alt.military, alt.politics, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.politics.usa

    On 4/7/2023 4:42 AM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/6/2023 7:42 AM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/6/2023 6:20 AM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 8:12 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 4:10 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 1:52 PM, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
    On 4/4/2023 2:15 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 11:00 PM, Dr. Jade Helm wrote:
    On 4/3/2023 8:14 PM, 22T.R732 wrote:
    https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-gives-us-access-to-strategic-military-bases/a-65219052


    The Philippines' government has identified four more military >>>>>>>>> bases that the US could access. Two locations are close to
    Taiwan and the disputed South China Sea islands.

    Despite opposition from China, the Philippines on Monday
    announced the location of four additional bases that United
    States military forces could access in the Southeast Asian
    nation.

    . . .

       Looks like WE'RE BACK in a major way. Past govts
       drove the USA away, off to Guam, but NOW with
       the Reds breathing on them ...... "Welcome Back
       Yankees !".

    China has aggressively bullied its way into fishing waters that >>>>>>>> were historically fished by Vietnam, Cambodia and the
    Philippines while also claiming off=shore gas and oil fields
    that are similarly claimed by those nations.  The Philippines >>>>>>>> needs the U.S. Navy, especially, to take back those areas in
    the South China sea that China is essentially stealing from them. >>>>>>>
    We need Subic Bay back and in top fighting condition and the Big >>>>>>> AFB the same. Thank you Jimmy Carter! You lamebrained Democrat
    for screwing that
    Security plan from the Teddy Roosevelt administration. Our lack
    of presence is exactly what emboldened the ChiComs to pull the
    crap they are now instigating. Taiwan is in their cross-hairs
    and they are not going to stop without military intervention.
    The Die is set. Thank you Democrats for another damned war that
    need not be.


    There is only "one China" recognized by the United States
    government and all governments in the world, and the current
    "People's Republic of China" (PRC) is the official representative
    of China in the United Nations, not "Republic of China" (Taiwan -
    ROC). The Republic of China's UN seat was removed and replaced
    with a seat for the People's Republic of China on 25 October 1971. >>>>>>
    China and the United Nations
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_the_United_Nations

    "China is one of the charter members of the United Nations and is
    one of five permanent members of its Security Council.

    One of the victorious Allies of World War II (the Chinese theatre
    of which was the Second Sino-Japanese War), the Republic of China
    (ROC) joined the UN upon its founding in 1945. The subsequent
    resumption of the Chinese Civil War led to the establishment of
    the People's Republic of China (PRC) in 1949. Nearly all of
    Mainland China was soon under its control[note 1] and the ROC
    government retreated to the island of Taiwan. The One-China
    policy advocated by both governments dismantled the solution of
    dual representation but, amid the Cold War and Korean War, the
    United States and its allies opposed the replacement of the ROC
    at the United Nations until 1971, although they were persuaded to
    pressure the government of the ROC to accept international
    recognition of Mongolia's independence in 1961. The United
    Kingdom, France, and other allies of the United States
    individually shifted their recognitions of China to the PRC and
    Albania brought annual votes to replace the ROC with the PRC, but
    these were defeated since—after General Assembly Resolution
    1668—a change in recognition required a two-thirds vote.

    Amid the Sino-Soviet split and Vietnam War, United States
    President Richard Nixon entered into negotiations with Chinese
    Communist Party Chairman Mao Zedong, initially through a secret
    1971 trip undertaken by Henry Kissinger to visit Zhou Enlai. On
    25 October 1971, Albania's motion to recognize the People's
    Republic of China as the sole legal China was passed as General
    Assembly Resolution 2758. It was supported by most of the
    communist states (including the Soviet Union) and non-aligned
    countries (such as India), but also by some NATO countries such
    as the United Kingdom and France. After the PRC was seated on 15
    November 1971, Nixon then personally visited mainland China the
    next year, beginning the normalization of PRC-USA relations.
    Since that time, the Republic of China has softened its own
    One-China Policy and sought international recognition. These
    moves have been opposed and mostly blocked by the People's
    Republic of China, forcing the Republic of China to join
    international organizations under other names, including "Chinese
    Taipei" at the International Olympic Committee.

    The Republic of China's most recent request for admission was
    turned down in 2007,[1] but a number of European governments—led >>>>>> by the United States—protested to the UN's Office of Legal
    Affairs to force the global body and its secretary-general to
    stop using the reference "Taiwan is a part of China".[2]

    The Republic of China's UN seat was removed and replaced with a
    seat for the People's Republic of China on 25 October 1971.[8]"

    That was a boondoggle by fucking Democrats you one neuron firing
    brain deprived fool. Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy et al guaranteed
    Taiwan's independence in order to make it secure and to entice
    American commercial and industrial investment of money,processes
    and people.


    You have a warped sense of history. I don't blame you. Most
    Americans were ignorant of anything happening in the outside world.
    Please allow me to give you some background history of the Republic
    of China (ROC) and the People's Republic of China (PRC).

    Around the time of the 1900s, the whole world was in turmoil and
    ready for a major change. After WWI, many European countries
    overthrew their monarchs and became republics. China overthrew the
    Qing Dynasty and became a republic around that time. The main
    revolutionary in establishing the Republic of China (ROC) was a
    character called Dr. Sun Yat San who was a Chinese American.

    Because the Chinese tradition of presenting a Chinese name is
    family name first, so Dr. Sun Yat-San's family name (last name) is
    'Sun'. So Mao Tse-Tung's last name is 'Mao', and Chiang Kai-Shek's
    last name is 'Chiang'. (Kim Jong-Un's last name is 'Kim'. Korean
    culture is very close to Chinese culture)

    Dr. Sun Yat San died in the 1920s due to bladder cancer, then the
    Communist Party leader, Mao, and the Nationalist Party leader,
    Chiang, were fighting each other to seize power to become the
    leader of China.

    The US was backing the Nationalist Chiang, and the Soviet Union was
    backing the Communist Mao.

    During WWII, Chiang and Mao were fighting the Japanese instead of
    fighting each other. The rest is history. WWII ended in 1945, and
    the United Nations was established as the new world order. Five
    countries, namely Britain, France, the US, the USSR, and China
    (Chiang's Republe of China - ROC) were the five founding members
    and the five permanent members of the UN Security Council with veto
    power.

    Mao and Chiang resumed their civil war after WWII. Mao's Communist
    Party won the civil war in 1949. Chiang was defeated militarily and
    the whole Nationalist regime was relocated to the island of Taiwan
    with the help of the US 7th Fleet.

    Mao's Communist army didn't have a viable navy so Mao couldn't
    pursue and rout Chiang out of the island of Taiwan. So Chiang set
    up shop in Taiwan as the legitimate government of whole China and
    continued to hold the seat in the United Nations as the true
    representative of China. Chiang was a puppet of the US and ruled
    with an iron fist. He ruled as a dictator under martial law, much
    like the US puppet president 'Ngo Dinh Diem' of Vietnam in the
    1960s, the US puppet president Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines
    in the 1960s, and the US puppet president Zelensky in the Ukraine now. >>>>
    Chiang was hoping the US would use American military might to help
    him fight his way back into China, but the US kept giving Chiang
    empty promises and Chiang's military was too weak to rout Mao's
    communists out of China on its own.

    So after 1945, the US puppet Chiang was the phony Chinese president
    who was voting in the UN Security Council as the legitimate
    representative of China. Eventually every country in the world
    noticed that it was a farce, and the legitimacy of the United
    Nations was at stake because the US was backing a phony as the
    legitimate holder of the seat of China in the United Nations. So in
    1971, the US was forced to revert the title to Mao's PRC as the
    legitimate government of China together with the veto power in the
    UN Security Council.

    Chiang's Chinese Nationalist Party never showed any intention of
    becoming 'independent'. Instead, Chiang's Chinese Nationalist Party
    in Taiwan insisted on fighting back into mainland China. It is only
    after the 1990s that Taiwan ROC saw the rise of the PRC militarily
    and economically that it finally realize that fighting back into
    mainland China is a pipe dream and started its deceitful plan of
    'independence'.

    China's leadership has always made it clear that China will
    militarily take back Taiwan the day Taiwan declares independence.
    The stupid twat president in Taiwan is just trying to turn Taiwan
    into another failed state like Zelensky did to Ukraine today by
    stirring the 'independence' shit. The US simply does not have the
    legitimacy or the military might to stop China PRC to take back the
    sovereignty of Taiwan.

    All territories can be taken  by force. Taiwan sure as Hell is
    sovereign! But only to itself.

    You should Google your shit before you spout your BS. Taiwan island's
    old name was "Formosa", which is Portuguese language, and then it was
    shortly ruled by Japan because the old Chinese Qing Dynasty was not a
    sea power.

    Cambodia,


    You should Google your shit before you spout your BS. Cambodia had
    not language which is completely different from the Chinese language.
    In fact, Cambodia was a British colony before WWII. That tells you
    how powerful the British Empire once was.


    Thailand,

    You should Google your shit before you spout your BS. Thailand has
    its own written and spoken languish and had never been a colony of
    any country.


    Vietnam

    You should Google your shit before you spout your BS. Vietnam has its
    own spoken and written language. Vietnam has Chinese cultural
    influence because Vietnam is a coastal country very close to China
    (the old Silk Road was the reason), but Vietnam was never ruled by
    China. The Chinese cultural influence is evident in Vietnamese names
    like "Ho Chi Minh" which resemble Chinese names. Vietnam was a French
    colony before WWII.

    were once all slave territories of China during the dynasty wars.

    I have just dispelled your BS.

    Today China is hated by all of them. Your one neuron firing brain
    should study the history of the entire world before you mouth off
    about one greedy countries daydreams.

    You are describing the greedy USA.




    And we lived up to that promise. To break that promise our morons
    in charge will have shot our own industrial American Giants in the
    back, along with Taiwan's Trust in us. Dishonoring our agreements.
    If you think China is going to stop with Taiwan, you are a bigger
    idiot then our Biden. We had a showdown with China in 1958. We had
    5 carrier groups and hundreds of support and landing ships to
    invade China over their attack on the Taiwan Islands of Quemoy and
    Matsu. They sunk a number of LST's that we transferred to the
    Taiwan Government. So we happily sunk every
    damned Junk, Sampan, military vessel we could find in return. we
    sent daily flights of armed camera plans all over China without
    interference.
    Our overall loses consisted of 4 fighters lost in all weather
    operations in heavy fog. China blinked and we went home leaving
    the Straights open peacefully to international trade. President
    Eisenhower DID NOT BlINK!
    At that time we had Okinawa, Guam and the Philippines as back up.
    A Democrat gave away our treasure of Okinawa(Earned in blood) and
    also the Philippines that was taken by Teddy Roosevelt in the
    Spanish American war. to be used for a Secure port. To be governed
    by a US General. First was General Pershing. The last was General
    MacArthur. The Democrats are damned good at getting us into war
    but useless in preventing them with long standing Security moves
    such as Okinawa, Guam, Philippines etc
    Makes one wonder if the ancestors of our Democrats are what
    destroyed the British Empire? Now you can crawl bak into your
    bunker and ponder Canada's role in partnering with America on the
    Haarp Program. It is starting to show a bit of reviving.

    By the way we celebrated at the end of our visit to China by
    having a Helluva party in 1959 in Hawaii becoming the 50th state
    right after Alaska becoming the 49th. God Bless the real America!

    Lets stop this Charade by making Taiwan a member of NATO...Like
    the Dems are doing t Ukraine. Or maybe even a territory of America.

    I flipped cigarette butts on the waters of the South China seas
    after we sunk any god damned Chinese warship that challenged us in
    1958.

    The British Empire once kicked your arse. Our Redcoats once smashed
    all the way into Washington to teach you a lesson. But that's faded
    glory, much like you are now.

    You seem to forget that our Ancestors sent King Georges Elite troops
    packing much earlier. In fact the very same bloodline French gave us a
    bit of a hand and then took over part of Canada. As for the demise of
    the British Empire, Don't you think that was from too many of you
    buttfucking each other rather then paying attention to business. India
    bitch slapped you folks right back to your inconsequential Islands.
    Tiny Ireland has the Mighty English crapping their britches for
    centuries.
    That was basically because nobody was interested in a meaningless war.
    If Teddy Roosevelt had his way, Canada would be a vassal state of
    America. You of course would be a permanent inmate at some Institute
    for the criminally insane. Neutered and declawed of course.


    President Eisenhower stated America's support of Taiwan....Loud and
    clear.

    China has a bigger navy than the US now. You'd better Google. China
    can kick your arse in the South China Sea. I hope your idiots in the
    Pentagon won't ask to be humiliated. Empires rise and fall. You are
    following the footsteps of the old British Empire. Nothing is
    forever. Face reality.


    If that was so, Why have they not done so?

    The US is a big consumer market. You don't kill your customers if you
    don't need to.

    If trade though those waters ceases, China will have 1.4 Billion
    unemployed, hungry and very pissed off citizens.


    That was exactly what the US was trying to do after Mao routed the US
    puppet Chiang regime to Taiwan island in 1949. But Mao's "Little Red
    Book" turned China around. Get your copy so you can turn the declining
    US empire around:

    Mao's Little Red Book https://www.amazon.com/Quotations-Chairman-Mao-Tse-Tung-Little/dp/1790752809/

    Right now they are employing their own citizens to tear down the New unoccupied cities
    They built to make-do jobs.

    You have been reading too much from your government rumour mills like
    Radio Free Europe and Voice of America. Your CIA's bullshit can rot your
    brain.

    Has it occurred to you that many of your new citizens are Chinese
    leaving China?

    There are lots of Chinese in Africa to explore trade with that continent
    too, while the Americans did nothing but start wars and invade other
    countries.

    China steps up African economic, trade ties to compete with US’ ‘game changing’ moves https://www.scmp.com/economy/global-economy/article/3212256/china-steps-african-economic-trade-ties-compete-us-game-changing-moves



    Many Chinese are also moving to the Philippines and elsewhere. You of
    course hang out here in hopes of getting a pass to move to America.

    I used to drive down to Seattle (back when I lived in Vancouver) and
    Buffalo for shopping and sightseeing. I haven't done that for almost 30
    years now. The US is dirty and crime-ridden. Only Mexico is worse than
    the US, but the US is gaining on Mexico for drugs and crimes. LOL


    We landed US Marines on Matsu/Quemoy to stop any invasion from the
    Chicoms. An Ex-governor of our state passed a couple of years ago
    and was a Marine that was wounded there. If China cannot reconcile
    with America, we WILL kick their ass. Same for you commy cocksukers
    that keep trying to destroy all that is good in the world.

    The History of that region of the world began long before the Brits
    got involved in the 1800's. China subjugated damned near every Asian
    based country before and during the Dynasty wars. The very name
    "Vietnam" means Kings land or property...Referring to the Emperor of
    China.


    I found this Vietnamese website registered as a Canadian internet
    domain. It could be run by real Vietnamese Canadians. Maybe you can
    spend some time in understanding the real meaning of the country name
    "Viet Nam" that you spent a good part of your youth trying to invade and subjugate:

    What Does Vietnam Mean in English? https://vietnamdaily.ca/language/what-does-vietnam-mean-in-english/


    The land of Cam became Cambodia after it broke free.

    You are totally fucked up in the history of that region. I was wrong
    about Cambodia being a British colony. It actually was a French colony
    as a part of the French Indochina. (apparently "Indochina" meant to be "India-China" in French).

    Cambodia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodia


    Ancient Mongolia went after China's assets in a big way.

    There were two ancient Chinese dynasties that was established by
    "foreigners" at the time, namely the Mongols and the Manchus. The Mongol
    period was called "Yuan Dynasty" (during the time of Genghis Khan), and
    the Manchu period was called "Qing Dynasty" (the last Chinese dynasty
    and the last Chinese emperor before China became a republic).

    Yuan Dynasty (1271 to 1368)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuan_dynasty

    Qing Dynasty (1636–1912)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_dynasty


    Every hear of the great wall of China

    The purpose of the Great Wall of China is a big misconception by Western countries, thinking that it was a wall to prevent invasion by the
    barbarians from the north (e.g. Mongols and others).

    In fact, if you think carefully, the real purpose of the wall was a
    highway to facilitate the Silk Road trade. Camel caravans and oxcarts
    moved merchandise between the Middle East and the Chinese capitals in
    the east.

    The wall was built in sections over two thousand years. No emperor would
    expend such great amount of material and manpower if it wasn't because
    it was financed by trade. (The same reason monumental projects like the
    Suez Canal and the Panama Canal were built to facilitate international
    trade).



    I guess that one neuron firing mind of yours just isn't up to snuff.
    Not only are you vastly ignorant of the History of the Asian rim, but
    are an annoyance to the world. Have you considered returning to
    whatever planet of insanity that bred you?



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