Tucker Carlson: Our leaders are lying about Putin's invasion of Ukraine,
and it's insulting
Tucker Carlson is just a...tvee show.
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 08:46:01 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
The notion that the EU provoked the Russian invasion is nuts. Russia
invaded because Putin believes Ukraine is part of Russia.
He wanted to go down in Russian history as the man who reconstituted
the Russian Empire.
Instead he's going down as the cancerous idiot who threw away twenty
years of Russian prosperity.
Swill
I think everyone knows by now in the end Russia will own Ukraine...entirely.
On 1/4/23 8:13 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jan 2023 08:46:01 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:I think everyone knows by now in the end Russia will own Ukraine...entirely.
The notion that the EU provoked the Russian invasion is nuts. RussiaHe wanted to go down in Russian history as the man who reconstituted
invaded because Putin believes Ukraine is part of Russia.
the Russian Empire.
Instead he's going down as the cancerous idiot who threw away twenty
years of Russian prosperity.
Um no ... that's not how it's going. Russia bit off much
more than it could chew and will wind up in the same
confused and dismal state as when the USSR dissolved. Decades
of twilight existence all over again ........
Putin DOES see a Greater Russian Empire as his legacy,
his stake in history. Instead it's going to be a stake
in Russia's heart.
I'd say report that to yer pal Vlad - but he'd have
you pushed out of a window .....
But, don't focus TOO much on Russia ... CHINA is lurking,
planning, in the background. Chaos CAN be exploited.
[...] I suspect the US, UK, eastern Europe, Poland and the
Baltics are committed to little less than the destruction not only of Russia's military machine, but it's ambitions of conquest.
On 1/5/2023 2:55 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
[...]Â I suspect the US, UK, eastern Europe, Poland and the
Baltics are committed to little less than the destruction not only of
Russia's military machine, but it's ambitions of conquest.
Nobody has to be "committed" to that ideal. The Russians are doing
fine and dandy by doing it to themselves with very little outside
help, North Korean support notwithstanding.
I think everyone knows by now in the end Russia will own Ukraine...entirely.
Um no ... that's not how it's going. Russia bit off much
more than it could chew and will wind up in the same
confused and dismal state as when the USSR dissolved. Decades
of twilight existence all over again ........
In article <z_6dnVGU2YoMzCv-nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"26C.Z969" <26C.Z969@noaada.net> wrote:
It's currently looks like Ukraine will restore its 2010 bordersI think everyone knows by now in the end Russia will own Ukraine...entirely.
Um no ... that's not how it's going. Russia bit off much
more than it could chew and will wind up in the same
confused and dismal state as when the USSR dissolved. Decades
of twilight existence all over again ........
long enough to join NATO. If that happens, Russia either lives
with it or dies in thermonuclear fires.
Ukraine will never join NATO. It is against NATO's own charter because >Ukraine will never relinquish Crimea, Donbass and other territories it
has already lost to Russia, and some countries will vehemently oppose >Ukraine's accession because they don't want to bring WWIII with Russia
into NATO along with Ukraine.
Russia is merely protecting itself from NATO aggression. Russia doesn't
have ambition of conquest. Only the US does. The US has been invading
every country under the sun.
It's currently looks like Ukraine will restore its 2010 borders
long enough to join NATO. If that happens, Russia either lives
with it or dies in thermonuclear fires.
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 08:43:52 -0500, wanna stop crying wrote:
Ukraine will never join NATO. It is against NATO's own charter because
Ukraine will never relinquish Crimea, Donbass and other territories it
has already lost to Russia, and some countries will vehemently oppose
Ukraine's accession because they don't want to bring WWIII with Russia
into NATO along with Ukraine.
Bullshit. Every word of it. No matter what land does or doesn't
comprise Ukraine, when this war is over, Ukraine WILL join NATO. The invitation has already been extended to Zelensky and there have been
no objections from any NATO members. The NATO states have been facing
WW III ever since 1949. Why do you think they created NATO in the
first place, fool?
Swill
On 1/6/2023 9:09 AM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 08:43:52 -0500, wanna stop crying wrote:
Ukraine will never join NATO. It is against NATO's own charter because
Ukraine will never relinquish Crimea, Donbass and other territories it
has already lost to Russia, and some countries will vehemently oppose
Ukraine's accession because they don't want to bring WWIII with Russia
into NATO along with Ukraine.
Bullshit. Every word of it. No matter what land does or doesn't
comprise Ukraine, when this war is over, Ukraine WILL join NATO. The
invitation has already been extended to Zelensky and there have been
no objections from any NATO members. The NATO states have been facing
WW III ever since 1949. Why do you think they created NATO in the
first place, fool?
I think the EU has invited Ukraine, not NATO. Also, I thought Zelensky
was prepared to have an security arrangement other than NATO as part of >negotiating the end of the war.
In article <z_6dnVGU2YoMzCv-nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"26C.Z969" <26C.Z969@noaada.net> wrote:
I think everyone knows by now in the end Russia will own Ukraine...entirely.
Um no ... that's not how it's going. Russia bit off much
more than it could chew and will wind up in the same
confused and dismal state as when the USSR dissolved. Decades
of twilight existence all over again ........
It's currently looks like Ukraine will restore its 2010 borders
long enough to join NATO. If that happens, Russia either lives
with it or dies in thermonuclear fires.
On 1/6/2023 9:09 AM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 08:43:52 -0500, wanna stop crying wrote:
Ukraine will never join NATO. It is against NATO's own charter because
Ukraine will never relinquish Crimea, Donbass and other territories it
has already lost to Russia, and some countries will vehemently oppose
Ukraine's accession because they don't want to bring WWIII with Russia
into NATO along with Ukraine.
Bullshit. Every word of it. No matter what land does or doesn't
comprise Ukraine, when this war is over, Ukraine WILL join NATO. The
invitation has already been extended to Zelensky and there have been
no objections from any NATO members. The NATO states have been facing
WW III ever since 1949. Why do you think they created NATO in the
first place, fool?
Swill
I think the EU has invited Ukraine, not NATO. Also, I thought Zelensky
was prepared to have an security arrangement other than NATO as part of negotiating the end of the war.
On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 wannabe smarter than a cantaloupe wrote:
Russia is merely protecting itself from NATO aggression. Russia doesn't
have ambition of conquest. Only the US does. The US has been invading
every country under the sun.
What NATO aggression? Cite one, single instance of NATO invading
Russia and annexing it's land.
On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 wannabe smarter than a cantaloupe wrote:
Russia is merely protecting itself from NATO aggression. Russia doesn't >>have ambition of conquest. Only the US does. The US has been invading
every country under the sun.
What NATO aggression? Cite one, single instance of NATO invading
Russia and annexing it's land.
governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2023 wannabe smarter than a cantaloupe wrote:
Russia is merely protecting itself from NATO aggression. Russia doesn't
have ambition of conquest. Only the US does. The US has been invading
every country under the sun.
What NATO aggression? Cite one, single instance of NATO invading
Russia and annexing it's land.
Well, there was, you know, that, uh, and there was also this other,
um, 'member?
On 1/5/23 11:44 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
In article <z_6dnVGU2YoMzCv-nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"26C.Z969" <26C.Z969@noaada.net> wrote:
I think everyone knows by now in the end Russia will own Ukraine...entirely.
Um no ... that's not how it's going. Russia bit off much
more than it could chew and will wind up in the same
confused and dismal state as when the USSR dissolved. Decades
of twilight existence all over again ........
It's currently looks like Ukraine will restore its 2010 borders
long enough to join NATO. If that happens, Russia either lives
with it or dies in thermonuclear fires.
Putin looks to be dead - by natural or other causes -
very soon. I *think* his crusade will die with him,
for NOW anyway.
Oh, and those thermonuclear fires burn us ALL - to ashes.
Can't go there.
On 1/6/23 4:21 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 1/6/2023 9:09 AM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 08:43:52 -0500, wanna stop crying wrote:
Ukraine will never join NATO. It is against NATO's own charter because >>>> Ukraine will never relinquish Crimea, Donbass and other territories it >>>> has already lost to Russia, and some countries will vehemently oppose
Ukraine's accession because they don't want to bring WWIII with Russia >>>> into NATO along with Ukraine.
Bullshit. Every word of it. No matter what land does or doesn't
comprise Ukraine, when this war is over, Ukraine WILL join NATO. The
invitation has already been extended to Zelensky and there have been
no objections from any NATO members. The NATO states have been facing
WW III ever since 1949. Why do you think they created NATO in the
first place, fool?
I think the EU has invited Ukraine, not NATO. Also, I thought Zelensky
was prepared to have an security arrangement other than NATO as part of
negotiating the end of the war.
That's my understanding.
Actual NATO membership could
push even a Putin-less Russia too far - it'd be like
Canada joining in a defense pact with China.
Then we'd all die - 300,000 years of human endeavor
WASTED.
What NATO aggression? Cite one, single instance of NATO invading
Russia and annexing it's land.
Well, there was, you know, that, uh, and there was also this other,
um, 'member?
Bullshit. Every word of it. No matter what land does or doesn't
comprise Ukraine, when this war is over, Ukraine WILL join NATO. The
invitation has already been extended to Zelensky and there have been
no objections from any NATO members. The NATO states have been facing
That's my understanding. Actual NATO membership could
push even a Putin-less Russia too far - it'd be like
Then we'd all die - 300,000 years of human endeavor
WASTED.
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