• More people will have died from COVID under Biden than Trump

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 24 04:39:37 2021
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    According to Johns Hopkins Universitys data on COVID-19 deaths, since Jan.
    1, there have been approximately 353,000 deaths from the pandemic. This is about a thousand more COVID-19 deaths than in all of 2020.

    That is to say, more people have died from COVID-19 under President Joe Biden than under former President Donald Trump.

    There are some important details to take into account, however. Trump lacked the benefit of vaccinations until the last month of his presidency, whereas Biden had them from day one. Biden, on the other hand, has had to deal with
    the surge of the delta variant, which spread throughout the country, even
    among the vaccinated.

    Then again, under Biden, the COVID-19 seven-day fatality rate in September
    was higher than last September.

    The coronavirus doesnt really know what year it is, noted Dr. David Dowdy, an associate professor of epidemiology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School
    of Public Health. And the death has largely come in waves.

    In reality, these numbers should not be surprising. The history of pandemics shows that there are multiple waves and variants that frequently lead to a
    lot of people being infected and dying. Biden never had any business
    promising he could beat the virus.

    It is amusing how, in year one of the pandemic, every story about the virus
    was a blame Trump story. Absolutely nothing Biden has done is working, yet Biden really never gets blamed for anything.

    Sure, Trump said a lot of wacky things, but Biden has told many falsehoods about the virus as well. He stated, for example, that "If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in the ICU unit
    and you're not going to die." And then, shortly after those comments, Biden contradicted himself and added that even if vaccinated people do "catch the virus," they are "not likely to get sick."

    Further, when discussing the delta variant, Biden stated that vaccines
    "cover" the delta variant insofar as people will not contract the virus if vaccinated. "You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations, Biden said.

    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about pandemics. They
    are just relaying information from experts who seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    --
    "Two-hundred twenty-thousand Americans dead. Anyone who's responsible
    for that many deaths should not remain as president of the United
    States of America. "
    -- Joe Biden

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Sun Oct 24 06:16:24 2021
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    XPost: alt.politics.usa, sci.med.diseases

    In article <sl36oq$hgn$1@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    That is to say, more people have died from COVID-19 under President Joe Biden than under former President Donald Trump.

    But not yet enough suicide-by-covid rednecks.

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Sun Oct 24 08:30:13 2021
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    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who seem to be either wrong or
    oversimplifying as often as not. That said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sun Oct 24 09:42:04 2021
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    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who
    seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be
    exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


    Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

    That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to noemail@verizon.net on Sun Oct 24 10:53:48 2021
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    On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 09:42:04 -0500, Mitchell Holman
    <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:

    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in >news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts? who
    seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be
    exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


    Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

    That makes America great, again?


    Trump acted to get the vaccine while Biden and Harris said they
    wouldn't get vaccinated.

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Oct 24 09:54:52 2021
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    On 10/24/21 9:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who
    seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be
    exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


    Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

    That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very
    differently than they treated Trump.

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Oct 24 10:56:43 2021
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    On 10/24/21 10:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who
    seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be
    exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


    Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

    That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne


    The CDC, among other 'experts,' said a vaccine could not be developed as quickly as it was. So, there's that. Then there's Fauci, who has
    repeatedly been wrong and changed positions more times than a porn actor.

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sun Oct 24 08:12:13 2021
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    On 10/24/2021 6:30 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about pandemics. They >> are just relaying information from “experts” who seem to be either wrong or
    oversimplifying as often as not. That said, if Biden were held to the same >> standard Trump was, he would be exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


    No.

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sun Oct 24 08:14:15 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/2021 7:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 9:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who
    seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be
    exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


          Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

          That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very differently than
    they treated Trump.

    False.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sun Oct 24 09:30:45 2021
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    In article <spSdnVwSpqQh7uj8nZ2dnUU7-aednZ2d@giganews.com>,
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote:

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very
    differently than they treated Trump.

    Tough shit.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 24 09:30:07 2021
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    In article <sl3s7c$qat$1@dont-email.me>, Yak <yak@inbox.com>
    wrote:

    The CDC, among other 'experts,' said a vaccine could not be developed as quickly as it was. So, there's that.

    Yeah, that damn science stuff goes improving itself instead of
    just staying put and no more innovation. What has the twentieth
    century that we didn't already have at fin de siecle.

    And you rage every day that there's a new day. Why can't we
    repeat the same day forever?

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Yak on Sun Oct 24 12:42:31 2021
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    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:sl3s7c$qat$1@dont-email.me:

    On 10/24/21 10:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who
    seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be
    exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


    Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

    That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne


    The CDC, among other 'experts,' said a vaccine could not be developed as quickly as it was. So, there's that. Then there's Fauci, who has
    repeatedly been wrong and changed positions more times than a porn actor.


    Which president installed Fauci as the
    White House expert on Covid back in May of
    2020, again?

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sun Oct 24 12:40:20 2021
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    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:spSdnVwSpqQh7uj8nZ2dnUU7-aednZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 9:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who
    seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be
    exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


    Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

    That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very
    differently than they treated Trump.


    That is to say, Biden treats the media very
    differently than Trump treated the media.

    Remember the Trump Press Sec who went for 9
    months without giving a single press interview?
    The Biden White House holds them EVERY DAY.

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sun Oct 24 10:48:17 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/2021 7:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 9:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who
    seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be
    exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


          Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

          That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very differently than
    they treated Trump.

    As Holman has already instructed you, the press treat Biden differently than they treated Trump because Biden treats the press differently than Trump did. Biden treats the press with the great respect they deserve in a democracy. Biden doesn't cut off reporters and tell them to sit down. Biden doesn't brag about being a "stable genius."

    You can dislike Biden's policies all you want — I dislike a lot of them — but
    Biden's behavior is presidential in a way that Trump's never was. Trump was clearly unfit for the office.

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Oct 24 14:39:11 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/21 1:42 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:sl3s7c$qat$1@dont-email.me:

    On 10/24/21 10:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who >>>>> seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be >>>>> exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


    Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

    That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne


    The CDC, among other 'experts,' said a vaccine could not be developed as
    quickly as it was. So, there's that. Then there's Fauci, who has
    repeatedly been wrong and changed positions more times than a porn actor.


    Which president installed Fauci as the
    White House expert on Covid back in May of
    2020, again?

    Trump. What's your point?

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Sun Oct 24 16:19:53 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/21 12:30 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <sl3s7c$qat$1@dont-email.me>, Yak <yak@inbox.com>
    wrote:

    The CDC, among other 'experts,' said a vaccine could not be developed as
    quickly as it was. So, there's that.

    Yeah, that damn science stuff goes improving itself instead of
    just staying put and no more innovation. What has the twentieth
    century that we didn't already have at fin de siecle.

    So, you admit you were wrong, the CDC was wrong, Fauchi was wrong, the 'experts' were wrong, Trump was right. Have you apologized yet?

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Oct 24 15:46:39 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/21 12:40 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:spSdnVwSpqQh7uj8nZ2dnUU7-aednZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 9:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who >>>>> seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be >>>>> exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


    Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

    Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

    That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very
    differently than they treated Trump.


    That is to say, Biden treats the media very
    differently than Trump treated the media.

    Remember the Trump Press Sec who went for 9
    months without giving a single press interview?
    The Biden White House holds them EVERY DAY.

    If that is what you wish to believe.

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Sun Oct 24 15:50:55 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/21 12:48 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 7:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 9:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who >>>>> seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be >>>>> exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


          Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

          That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very
    differently than they treated Trump.

    As Holman has already instructed you, the press treat Biden differently
    than they treated Trump because Biden treats the press differently than
    Trump did. Biden treats the press with the great respect they deserve in
    a democracy. Biden doesn't cut off reporters and tell them to sit down.
    Biden doesn't brag about being a "stable genius."

    You can dislike Biden's policies all you want — I dislike a lot of them
    — but Biden's behavior is presidential in a way that Trump's never was. Trump was clearly unfit for the office.

    So you, a self proclaimed libertarian, prefer an establishment
    politician as President, rather than someone who prefers to call a spade
    a spade. Trump may be lacking in "social graces", but he was a far
    better president than either Biden or Obama, or even GW Bush for that
    matter.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Yak on Sun Oct 24 15:51:55 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/21 1:39 PM, Yak wrote:
    On 10/24/21 1:42 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:sl3s7c$qat$1@dont-email.me:

    On 10/24/21 10:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who >>>>>> seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be >>>>>> exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


           Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

           Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

           Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

           That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne


    The CDC, among other 'experts,' said a vaccine could not be developed as >>> quickly as it was. So, there's that. Then there's Fauci, who has
    repeatedly been wrong and changed positions more times than a porn
    actor.


          Which president installed Fauci as the
    White House expert on Covid back in May of
    2020, again?

    Trump. What's your point?

    He has none.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sun Oct 24 15:51:18 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/2021 1:50 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 12:48 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 7:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 9:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who >>>>>> seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be >>>>>> exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


          Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

          That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very differently >>> than they treated Trump.

    As Holman has already instructed you, the press treat Biden differently than >> they treated Trump because Biden treats the press differently than Trump did.
    Biden treats the press with the great respect they deserve in a democracy. >> Biden doesn't cut off reporters and tell them to sit down. Biden doesn't brag
    about being a "stable genius."

    You can dislike Biden's policies all you want — I dislike a lot of them — but
    Biden's behavior is presidential in a way that Trump's never was. Trump was >> clearly unfit for the office.

    So you, a self proclaimed libertarian, prefer an establishment politician as President, rather than someone who prefers to call a spade a spade.

    I prefer someone who isn't a crook, a bully, a rapist and who cozies up to dictators. Biden beats Trump hands down.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sun Oct 24 15:52:22 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/2021 1:50 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 12:48 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 7:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 9:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who >>>>>> seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That
    said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be >>>>>> exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


          Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

          That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very differently >>> than they treated Trump.

    As Holman has already instructed you, the press treat Biden differently than >> they treated Trump because Biden treats the press differently than Trump did.
    Biden treats the press with the great respect they deserve in a democracy. >> Biden doesn't cut off reporters and tell them to sit down. Biden doesn't brag
    about being a "stable genius."

    You can dislike Biden's policies all you want — I dislike a lot of them — but
    Biden's behavior is presidential in a way that Trump's never was. Trump was >> clearly unfit for the office.

    So you, a self proclaimed libertarian, prefer an establishment politician as President, rather than someone who prefers to call a spade a spade. Trump may be
    lacking in "social graces", but he was a far better president than either Biden
    or Obama,

    No.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Sun Oct 24 20:05:44 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/21 5:51 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 1:50 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 12:48 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 7:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 9:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who >>>>>>> seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That >>>>>>> said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be >>>>>>> exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


          Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

          That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very
    differently than they treated Trump.

    As Holman has already instructed you, the press treat Biden
    differently than they treated Trump because Biden treats the press
    differently than Trump did. Biden treats the press with the great
    respect they deserve in a democracy. Biden doesn't cut off reporters
    and tell them to sit down. Biden doesn't brag about being a "stable
    genius."

    You can dislike Biden's policies all you want — I dislike a lot of
    them — but Biden's behavior is presidential in a way that Trump's
    never was. Trump was clearly unfit for the office.

    So you, a self proclaimed libertarian, prefer an establishment
    politician as President, rather than someone who prefers to call a
    spade a spade.

    I prefer someone who isn't a crook, a bully, a rapist and who cozies up
    to dictators.  Biden beats Trump hands down.

    It appears to me that you are the gullible sort.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Yak on Sun Oct 24 20:49:13 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:sl4f59$qdd$1@dont-email.me:

    On 10/24/21 12:30 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <sl3s7c$qat$1@dont-email.me>, Yak <yak@inbox.com>
    wrote:

    The CDC, among other 'experts,' said a vaccine could not be
    developed as quickly as it was. So, there's that.

    Yeah, that damn science stuff goes improving itself instead of
    just staying put and no more innovation. What has the twentieth
    century that we didn't already have at fin de siecle.

    So, you admit you were wrong, the CDC was wrong, Fauchi was wrong, the 'experts' were wrong, Trump was right. Have you apologized yet?


    Ahem.

    *Fauci*, not "Fauchi"


    "Learn to spell, retard."
    "Yak", June 15 2019
    http://tinyurl.com/yy6mhget

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Yak on Sun Oct 24 20:52:14 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:sl4f59$qdd$1@dont-email.me:

    On 10/24/21 12:30 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <sl3s7c$qat$1@dont-email.me>, Yak <yak@inbox.com>
    wrote:

    The CDC, among other 'experts,' said a vaccine could not be
    developed as quickly as it was. So, there's that.

    Yeah, that damn science stuff goes improving itself instead of
    just staying put and no more innovation. What has the twentieth
    century that we didn't already have at fin de siecle.

    So, you admit you were wrong, the CDC was wrong, Fauchi was wrong, the 'experts' were wrong, Trump was right. Have you apologized yet?



    What was Trump right about - how
    Covid would "all go away" by May of
    2020?





    Feb. 10 2020

    "Now, the virus that were talking about having
    to do you know, a lot of people think that goes
    away in April with the heat as the heat comes in.
    Typically, that will go away in April."

    March 31 2020

    "Its going to go away, hopefully at the end of
    the month. And, if not, hopefully it will be
    soon after that." Predicted to go away by the
    end of April."

    https://tinyurl.com/yd8d5zlz

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sun Oct 24 18:42:37 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/2021 6:05 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 5:51 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 1:50 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 12:48 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 7:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 9:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from “experts” who >>>>>>>> seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as often as not. That >>>>>>>> said, if Biden were held to the same standard Trump was, he would be >>>>>>>> exposed for his lies and incompetence.

    So very true.


          Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

          That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very differently
    than they treated Trump.

    As Holman has already instructed you, the press treat Biden differently than
    they treated Trump because Biden treats the press differently than Trump >>>> did. Biden treats the press with the great respect they deserve in a
    democracy. Biden doesn't cut off reporters and tell them to sit down. Biden
    doesn't brag about being a "stable genius."

    You can dislike Biden's policies all you want — I dislike a lot of them —
    but Biden's behavior is presidential in a way that Trump's never was. Trump
    was clearly unfit for the office.

    So you, a self proclaimed libertarian, prefer an establishment politician as
    President, rather than someone who prefers to call a spade a spade.

    I prefer someone who isn't a crook, a bully, a rapist and who cozies up to >> dictators.  Biden beats Trump hands down.

    It appears to me that you are the gullible sort.

    No, I am a realist, and you are a doctrinaire, lock-step partisan. You support Trump even though he is a crook, a bully, a rapist and someone who cozies up to vicious dictators, because he is one of your tribe.

    You don't know a fucking thing about politics. It is *only* tribalism with you.
    This is obvious.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sun Oct 24 20:54:58 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:54mdnZNdMKB0n-v8nZ2dnUU7-VfNnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 5:51 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 1:50 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 12:48 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 7:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 9:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from
    “experts” who seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as >>>>>>>> often as not. That said, if Biden were held to the same
    standard Trump was, he would be exposed for his lies and
    incompetence.

    So very true.


          Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

          That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very
    differently than they treated Trump.

    As Holman has already instructed you, the press treat Biden
    differently than they treated Trump because Biden treats the press
    differently than Trump did. Biden treats the press with the great
    respect they deserve in a democracy. Biden doesn't cut off
    reporters and tell them to sit down. Biden doesn't brag about being
    a "stable genius."

    You can dislike Biden's policies all you want — I dislike a lot
    of them — but Biden's behavior is presidential in a way that
    Trump's never was. Trump was clearly unfit for the office.

    So you, a self proclaimed libertarian, prefer an establishment
    politician as President, rather than someone who prefers to call a
    spade a spade.

    I prefer someone who isn't a crook, a bully, a rapist and who cozies
    up to dictators.  Biden beats Trump hands down.

    It appears to me that you are the gullible sort.



    You believe in talking snakes, dragons,
    unicorns, zombies and Ye Floode - and accuse
    OTHERS of being gullible?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Oct 24 18:54:02 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/2021 6:49 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:sl4f59$qdd$1@dont-email.me:

    On 10/24/21 12:30 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <sl3s7c$qat$1@dont-email.me>, Yak <yak@inbox.com>
    wrote:

    The CDC, among other 'experts,' said a vaccine could not be
    developed as quickly as it was. So, there's that.

    Yeah, that damn science stuff goes improving itself instead of
    just staying put and no more innovation. What has the twentieth
    century that we didn't already have at fin de siecle.

    So, you admit you were wrong, the CDC was wrong, Fauchi was wrong, the
    'experts' were wrong, Trump was right. Have you apologized yet?


    Ahem.

    *Fauci*, not "Fauchi"


    "Learn to spell, retard."
    "Yak", June 15 2019
    http://tinyurl.com/yy6mhget


    I think Gak — the retard — was trying to be cute. He was trying to write something like "Fauxi" — get it, huh, do ya, huh, do ya? — but he fucked it up,
    because Gak is a fucking far-right-wingnut retard.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Oct 24 21:16:05 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/21 8:54 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in news:54mdnZNdMKB0n-v8nZ2dnUU7-VfNnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 5:51 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 1:50 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 12:48 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 7:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 9:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about
    pandemics. They are just relaying information from
    “experts” who seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as >>>>>>>>> often as not. That said, if Biden were held to the same
    standard Trump was, he would be exposed for his lies and
    incompetence.

    So very true.


          Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

          Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

          That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very
    differently than they treated Trump.

    As Holman has already instructed you, the press treat Biden
    differently than they treated Trump because Biden treats the press
    differently than Trump did. Biden treats the press with the great
    respect they deserve in a democracy. Biden doesn't cut off
    reporters and tell them to sit down. Biden doesn't brag about being
    a "stable genius."

    You can dislike Biden's policies all you want — I dislike a lot
    of them — but Biden's behavior is presidential in a way that
    Trump's never was. Trump was clearly unfit for the office.

    So you, a self proclaimed libertarian, prefer an establishment
    politician as President, rather than someone who prefers to call a
    spade a spade.

    I prefer someone who isn't a crook, a bully, a rapist and who cozies
    up to dictators.  Biden beats Trump hands down.

    It appears to me that you are the gullible sort.



    You believe in talking snakes, dragons,
    unicorns, zombies and Ye Floode - and accuse
    OTHERS of being gullible?

    As I said, if you are buying what Biden and company are selling, you are gullible.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sun Oct 24 20:42:16 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/2021 7:16 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 8:54 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:54mdnZNdMKB0n-v8nZ2dnUU7-VfNnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 5:51 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 1:50 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 12:48 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 7:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 10/24/21 9:42 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Nc6dnavRQMR7wuj8nZ2dnUU7-QmdnZ2d@giganews.com:

    On 10/24/21 3:39 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    Presidents should be given some leeway when they talk about >>>>>>>>>> pandemics. They are just relaying information from
    “experts” who seem to be either wrong or oversimplifying as >>>>>>>>>> often as not. That said, if Biden were held to the same
    standard Trump was, he would be exposed for his lies and
    incompetence.

    So very true.


           Bush listened to the CDC, took their advice.

           Obama listened to the CDC, took their advice.

           Trump rejected the CDC, said he knew more
    about the subject than them, dithered for months,
    constantly said the pandemic was just about over,
    and now 700,000 Americans are dead.

           That makes America great, again?






    Trump on coronavirus: "People are really surprised
    I understand this stuff. Maybe I have natural ability,"
    he said, referring to a "super-genius" relative who was
    a scientist.
    https://tinyurl.com/vnkrkne

    None of which negates the fact that the Media treats Biden very
    differently than they treated Trump.

    As Holman has already instructed you, the press treat Biden
    differently than they treated Trump because Biden treats the press >>>>>> differently than Trump did. Biden treats the press with the great
    respect they deserve in a democracy. Biden doesn't cut off
    reporters and tell them to sit down. Biden doesn't brag about being >>>>>> a "stable genius."

    You can dislike Biden's policies all you want — I dislike a lot
    of them — but Biden's behavior is presidential in a way that
    Trump's never was. Trump was clearly unfit for the office.

    So you, a self proclaimed libertarian, prefer an establishment
    politician as President, rather than someone who prefers to call a
    spade a spade.

    I prefer someone who isn't a crook, a bully, a rapist and who cozies
    up to dictators.  Biden beats Trump hands down.

    It appears to me that you are the gullible sort.



         You believe in talking snakes, dragons,
    unicorns, zombies and Ye Floode - and accuse
    OTHERS of being gullible?

    As I said,

    No — as you lied.

    You believe in provable bullshit.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Mon Oct 25 06:37:21 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/24/21 9:52 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:sl4f59$qdd$1@dont-email.me:

    On 10/24/21 12:30 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <sl3s7c$qat$1@dont-email.me>, Yak <yak@inbox.com>
    wrote:

    The CDC, among other 'experts,' said a vaccine could not be
    developed as quickly as it was. So, there's that.

    Yeah, that damn science stuff goes improving itself instead of
    just staying put and no more innovation. What has the twentieth
    century that we didn't already have at fin de siecle.

    So, you admit you were wrong, the CDC was wrong, Fauchi was wrong, the
    'experts' were wrong, Trump was right. Have you apologized yet?



    What was Trump right about - how
    Covid would "all go away" by May of
    2020?

    That a vaccine would be developed quicker than *you* ever thought. You
    know, the vaccine *you* took. Have *you* thanked Trump yet?





    Feb. 10 2020

    "Now, the virus that we�re talking about having
    to do � you know, a lot of people think that goes
    away in April with the heat � as the heat comes in.
    Typically, that will go away in April."

    March 31 2020

    "It�s going to go away, hopefully at the end of
    the month. And, if not, hopefully it will be
    soon after that." Predicted to go away by the
    end of April."

    https://tinyurl.com/yd8d5zlz


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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Mon Oct 25 08:10:55 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con> wrote in
    news:_6odJ.25070$Sja8.5077@fx35.iad:

    On 10/24/2021 6:49 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:sl4f59$qdd$1@dont-email.me:

    On 10/24/21 12:30 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <sl3s7c$qat$1@dont-email.me>, Yak <yak@inbox.com>
    wrote:

    The CDC, among other 'experts,' said a vaccine could not be
    developed as quickly as it was. So, there's that.

    Yeah, that damn science stuff goes improving itself instead of
    just staying put and no more innovation. What has the twentieth
    century that we didn't already have at fin de siecle.

    So, you admit you were wrong, the CDC was wrong, Fauchi was wrong,
    the 'experts' were wrong, Trump was right. Have you apologized yet?


    Ahem.

    *Fauci*, not "Fauchi"


    "Learn to spell, retard."
    "Yak", June 15 2019
    http://tinyurl.com/yy6mhget


    I think Gak — the retard — was trying to be cute. He was trying
    to write something like "Fauxi" — get it, huh, do ya, huh, do ya?
    — but he fucked it up, because Gak is a fucking far-right-wingnut
    retard.



    Yak is the first to leap on the spelling
    errors of others even as he posts spelling
    errors of his own.

    Conservative hypocrisy on display.......

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Mon Oct 25 09:16:02 2021
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.miserable-failure, alt.politics.usa XPost: sci.med.diseases

    On 10/25/21 9:10 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con> wrote in
    news:_6odJ.25070$Sja8.5077@fx35.iad:

    On 10/24/2021 6:49 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:sl4f59$qdd$1@dont-email.me:

    On 10/24/21 12:30 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <sl3s7c$qat$1@dont-email.me>, Yak <yak@inbox.com>
    wrote:

    The CDC, among other 'experts,' said a vaccine could not be
    developed as quickly as it was. So, there's that.

    Yeah, that damn science stuff goes improving itself instead of
    just staying put and no more innovation. What has the twentieth
    century that we didn't already have at fin de siecle.

    So, you admit you were wrong, the CDC was wrong, Fauchi was wrong,
    the 'experts' were wrong, Trump was right. Have you apologized yet?


    Ahem.

    *Fauci*, not "Fauchi"


    "Learn to spell, retard."
    "Yak", June 15 2019
    http://tinyurl.com/yy6mhget


    I think Gak — the retard — was trying to be cute. He was trying
    to write something like "Fauxi" — get it, huh, do ya, huh, do ya?
    — but he fucked it up, because Gak is a fucking far-right-wingnut
    retard.



    Yak is the first to leap on the spelling
    errors of others even as he posts spelling
    errors of his own.

    Not quite, as evidenced by you having to go back two years to find even
    one instance of it. But, keep running with that one if it gets you
    through the day.

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