• COVID-19 death rates have drastically fallen among all age groups - eve

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 26 21:05:02 2020
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    The chances of dying from COVID-19 have fallen precipitously since the
    pandemic began, according to two new peer-reviewed studies.

    One study, from researchers at New York University's Grossman School of Medicine, found that the death rate has gone down substantially among
    all age groups.

    Patients treated by NYU's health system had a 25.6% chance of dying
    when the pandemic began but that number has fallen to 7.6% in recent
    weeks, according to the study, which will be published in the Journal
    of Hospital Medicine next week.

    The researchers identified multiple reasons for the drop, including
    increased experience with the virus among health workers, lower
    hospital capacity, the availability of new treatments, earlier
    intervention, higher community awareness, and "lower viral load
    exposure from increasing mask wearing and social distancing." The
    researchers added that it is also possible that "earlier periods had a
    more virulent circulating strain."

    "Our findings suggest that while COVID-19 remains a terrible disease,
    our efforts to improve treatment are probably working," co-author Leora
    Horwitz said in a statement. "Even in the absence of a silver-bullet
    treatment or vaccine, we are protecting more of our patients through a
    host of small changes."

    While the NYU study only looked at about 5,000 cases in a single health
    system in New York, another analysis by Bilal Mateen, a researcher at
    the Alan Turing Institute in the United Kingdom similarly found that
    the death rate has fallen about 20 percentage points since the pandemic
    began.

    The study, which was released as a preprint before it is set to appear
    in the journal Critical Care Medicine, looked at data from more than
    20,000 hospitalizations in the UK.

    "This trend remains after adjustment for patient demographics and
    comorbidities suggesting this improvement is not due to changing
    patient characteristics," the analysis said. "Possible causes include
    the introduction of effective treatments as part of clinical trials and
    a falling critical care burden."

    To be clear, the death rate is "still higher than many infectious
    diseases, including the flu," Horwitz told NPR. And many patients still
    have severe symptoms months after first testing positive. "It still has
    the potential to be very harmful in terms of long-term consequences for
    many people," she said.

    Horwitz acknowledged that "people who are getting hospitalized now tend
    to be younger" and have fewer health conditions but even when adjusted
    for age and other diseases, the study found that the death rate among
    older patients has dropped by about 18 percentage points.

    "Clearly, there's been something [that's] gone on that's improved the
    risk of individuals who go into these settings with COVID-19," Mateen
    told the outlet.

    Doctors who were not involved in the studies agreed that there were
    numerous reasons for the drop.

    Khalilah Gates, a critical care pulmonologist at Northwestern Memorial
    Hospital in Chicago, told NPR that patients in the early days of the
    pandemic were put on ventilators and breathing machines and perhaps
    offered enrollment into critical trials but "six-plus months into this,
    we kind of have a rhythm, and so it has become an everyday standard
    patient for us at this point in time."

    Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease expert and emergency medicine
    physician at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, added that
    doctors have also learned to quickly identify patients at risk of blood
    clots or "cytokine storms," when the body's immune system attacks
    itself.

    "We know that when people are getting standardized treatment, it makes
    it much easier to deal with the complications that occur because you
    already have protocols in place," he said. "And that's definitely
    what's happened in many hospitals around the country."

    Mateen stressed that hospital capacity has been key in reducing the
    death rate in the UK because when "staff are stretched, mistakes are
    made."

    "It's night and day to take care of someone with a disease you've never
    seen before, than taking care of someone where you've seen hundreds,"
    Horwitz told The Wall Street Journal. "It's also probably that the
    hospitals are not overwhelmed, but that can change."

    Indeed, the number of new cases in the United States hit a record high
    of more than 77,000 on Thursday and hospitalizations hit record highs
    in numerous states like Ohio, Iowa, Utah, and Oklahoma. Hospitals in
    Utah, Wisconsin, Idaho, and others are already nearing full capacity.

    As hospitals in hot spots are stretched thin, Horwitz stressed that
    wearing a mask could mean the difference between life and death.

    A study by researchers at the University of California, San Francisco
    and Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health published in the
    Journal of General Internal Medicine found that masks may reduce the
    amount of the virus the wearer is exposed to, "leading to higher rates
    of mild or asymptomatic infection."

    "Masks, depending on the material and design, filter out a majority of
    viral particles, but not all," the study said. The researchers found
    that in some cases, "if 80% of the population wears a moderately
    effective mask, nearly half of the projected deaths over the next two
    months could be prevented."

    Countries that had high levels of mask-wearing before the pandemic have
    fared better than other nations and subsequent resurgences have been
    less deadly.

    "The more virus you get into your body, the more sick you are likely to
    get," said study co-author Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease expert
    at UCSF.

    "Masks can prevent many infections altogether, as was seen in health
    care workers when we moved to universal masking. We're also saying that
    masks, which filter out a majority of viral particles, can lead to a
    less severe infection if you do get one," said Gandhi. "If you get
    infected, but have no symptoms that's the best way you can ever get a
    virus."

    The study compared outbreaks on two cruise ships in the winter. In
    February, 18% of 634 people who tested positive aboard the Diamond
    Princess cruise ship in Japan were asymptomatic. But a cruise ship in Argentina, where workers handed out surgical masks to all passengers
    and N95 masks to all staff after the first passenger tested positive,
    had an 81% asymptomatic rate among 128 people who tested positive.

    Likewise, as hundreds of food processing plant workers died from the coronavirus, plants that distributed masks to workers saw high
    asymptomatic rates. A seafood processing plant in Oregon and a Tyson
    chicken processing plant in Arkansas had 95% asymptomatic rates among
    hundreds of infections after giving workers masks.

    Gandhi said that public health agencies like the Centers for Disease
    Control and Prevention should stress these findings along with the
    current messaging that wearing a mask prevents asymptomatic people from spreading the virus to others.

    "We messaged that mask wearing will protect other people, and that did
    not seem to convince our country as much as we would have hoped," she
    said. "If you think something's going to help you or your family, you
    are going to do it more than if you think you're helping others."

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Tue Oct 27 12:05:07 2020
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    On 10/26/20 8:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    The chances of dying from COVID-19 have fallen precipitously since the pandemic began, according to two new peer-reviewed studies.

    One study, from researchers at New York University's Grossman School of Medicine, found that the death rate has gone down substantially among
    all age groups.

    Patients treated by NYU's health system had a 25.6% chance of dying
    when the pandemic began but that number has fallen to 7.6% in recent
    weeks, according to the study, which will be published in the Journal
    of Hospital Medicine next week.

    The researchers identified multiple reasons for the drop, including
    increased experience with the virus among health workers, lower
    hospital capacity, the availability of new treatments, earlier
    intervention, higher community awareness, and "lower viral load
    exposure from increasing mask wearing and social distancing." The
    researchers added that it is also possible that "earlier periods had a
    more virulent circulating strain."

    "Our findings suggest that while COVID-19 remains a terrible disease,
    our efforts to improve treatment are probably working," co-author Leora Horwitz said in a statement. "Even in the absence of a silver-bullet treatment or vaccine, we are protecting more of our patients through a
    host of small changes."

    While the NYU study only looked at about 5,000 cases in a single health system in New York, another analysis by Bilal Mateen, a researcher at
    the Alan Turing Institute in the United Kingdom similarly found that
    the death rate has fallen about 20 percentage points since the pandemic began.

    The study, which was released as a preprint before it is set to appear
    in the journal Critical Care Medicine, looked at data from more than
    20,000 hospitalizations in the UK.

    "This trend remains after adjustment for patient demographics and comorbidities suggesting this improvement is not due to changing
    patient characteristics," the analysis said. "Possible causes include
    the introduction of effective treatments as part of clinical trials and
    a falling critical care burden."

    To be clear, the death rate is "still higher than many infectious
    diseases, including the flu," Horwitz told NPR. And many patients still
    have severe symptoms months after first testing positive. "It still has
    the potential to be very harmful in terms of long-term consequences for
    many people," she said.

    Horwitz acknowledged that "people who are getting hospitalized now tend
    to be younger" and have fewer health conditions but even when adjusted
    for age and other diseases, the study found that the death rate among
    older patients has dropped by about 18 percentage points.

    "Clearly, there's been something [that's] gone on that's improved the
    risk of individuals who go into these settings with COVID-19," Mateen
    told the outlet.

    Doctors who were not involved in the studies agreed that there were
    numerous reasons for the drop.

    Khalilah Gates, a critical care pulmonologist at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago, told NPR that patients in the early days of the
    pandemic were put on ventilators and breathing machines and perhaps
    offered enrollment into critical trials but "six-plus months into this,
    we kind of have a rhythm, and so it has become an everyday standard
    patient for us at this point in time."

    Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease expert and emergency medicine
    physician at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, added that
    doctors have also learned to quickly identify patients at risk of blood
    clots or "cytokine storms," when the body's immune system attacks
    itself.

    "We know that when people are getting standardized treatment, it makes
    it much easier to deal with the complications that occur because you
    already have protocols in place," he said. "And that's definitely
    what's happened in many hospitals around the country."

    Mateen stressed that hospital capacity has been key in reducing the
    death rate in the UK because when "staff are stretched, mistakes are
    made."

    "It's night and day to take care of someone with a disease you've never
    seen before, than taking care of someone where you've seen hundreds,"
    Horwitz told The Wall Street Journal. "It's also probably that the
    hospitals are not overwhelmed, but that can change."

    Indeed, the number of new cases in the United States hit a record high
    of more than 77,000 on Thursday and hospitalizations hit record highs
    in numerous states like Ohio, Iowa, Utah, and Oklahoma. Hospitals in
    Utah, Wisconsin, Idaho, and others are already nearing full capacity.

    As hospitals in hot spots are stretched thin, Horwitz stressed that
    wearing a mask could mean the difference between life and death.

    A study by researchers at the University of California, San Francisco
    and Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health published in the
    Journal of General Internal Medicine found that masks may reduce the
    amount of the virus the wearer is exposed to, "leading to higher rates
    of mild or asymptomatic infection."

    "Masks, depending on the material and design, filter out a majority of
    viral particles, but not all," the study said. The researchers found
    that in some cases, "if 80% of the population wears a moderately
    effective mask, nearly half of the projected deaths over the next two
    months could be prevented."

    Countries that had high levels of mask-wearing before the pandemic have
    fared better than other nations and subsequent resurgences have been
    less deadly.

    "The more virus you get into your body, the more sick you are likely to
    get," said study co-author Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease expert
    at UCSF.

    "Masks can prevent many infections altogether, as was seen in health
    care workers when we moved to universal masking. We're also saying that masks, which filter out a majority of viral particles, can lead to a
    less severe infection if you do get one," said Gandhi. "If you get
    infected, but have no symptoms – that's the best way you can ever get a virus."

    The study compared outbreaks on two cruise ships in the winter. In
    February, 18% of 634 people who tested positive aboard the Diamond
    Princess cruise ship in Japan were asymptomatic. But a cruise ship in Argentina, where workers handed out surgical masks to all passengers
    and N95 masks to all staff after the first passenger tested positive,
    had an 81% asymptomatic rate among 128 people who tested positive.

    Likewise, as hundreds of food processing plant workers died from the coronavirus, plants that distributed masks to workers saw high
    asymptomatic rates. A seafood processing plant in Oregon and a Tyson
    chicken processing plant in Arkansas had 95% asymptomatic rates among hundreds of infections after giving workers masks.

    Gandhi said that public health agencies like the Centers for Disease
    Control and Prevention should stress these findings along with the
    current messaging that wearing a mask prevents asymptomatic people from spreading the virus to others.

    "We messaged that mask wearing will protect other people, and that did
    not seem to convince our country as much as we would have hoped," she
    said. "If you think something's going to help you or your family, you
    are going to do it more than if you think you're helping others."

    Based upon this, it may be time for me to reevaluate my position on masks.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to d_hartung@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 28 06:23:33 2020
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    On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 12:05:07 -0500, David Hartung
    <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/26/20 8:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    The chances of dying from COVID-19 have fallen precipitously since the
    pandemic began, according to two new peer-reviewed studies.

    One study, from researchers at New York University's Grossman School of
    Medicine, found that the death rate has gone down substantially among
    all age groups.

    Patients treated by NYU's health system had a 25.6% chance of dying
    when the pandemic began but that number has fallen to 7.6% in recent
    weeks, according to the study, which will be published in the Journal
    of Hospital Medicine next week.

    The researchers identified multiple reasons for the drop, including
    increased experience with the virus among health workers, lower
    hospital capacity, the availability of new treatments, earlier
    intervention, higher community awareness, and "lower viral load
    exposure from increasing mask wearing and social distancing." The
    researchers added that it is also possible that "earlier periods had a
    more virulent circulating strain."

    "Our findings suggest that while COVID-19 remains a terrible disease,
    our efforts to improve treatment are probably working," co-author Leora
    Horwitz said in a statement. "Even in the absence of a silver-bullet
    treatment or vaccine, we are protecting more of our patients through a
    host of small changes."

    While the NYU study only looked at about 5,000 cases in a single health
    system in New York, another analysis by Bilal Mateen, a researcher at
    the Alan Turing Institute in the United Kingdom similarly found that
    the death rate has fallen about 20 percentage points since the pandemic
    began.

    The study, which was released as a preprint before it is set to appear
    in the journal Critical Care Medicine, looked at data from more than
    20,000 hospitalizations in the UK.

    "This trend remains after adjustment for patient demographics and
    comorbidities suggesting this improvement is not due to changing
    patient characteristics," the analysis said. "Possible causes include
    the introduction of effective treatments as part of clinical trials and
    a falling critical care burden."

    To be clear, the death rate is "still higher than many infectious
    diseases, including the flu," Horwitz told NPR. And many patients still
    have severe symptoms months after first testing positive. "It still has
    the potential to be very harmful in terms of long-term consequences for
    many people," she said.

    Horwitz acknowledged that "people who are getting hospitalized now tend
    to be younger" and have fewer health conditions but even when adjusted
    for age and other diseases, the study found that the death rate among
    older patients has dropped by about 18 percentage points.

    "Clearly, there's been something [that's] gone on that's improved the
    risk of individuals who go into these settings with COVID-19," Mateen
    told the outlet.

    Doctors who were not involved in the studies agreed that there were
    numerous reasons for the drop.

    Khalilah Gates, a critical care pulmonologist at Northwestern Memorial
    Hospital in Chicago, told NPR that patients in the early days of the
    pandemic were put on ventilators and breathing machines and perhaps
    offered enrollment into critical trials but "six-plus months into this,
    we kind of have a rhythm, and so it has become an everyday standard
    patient for us at this point in time."

    Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease expert and emergency medicine
    physician at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, added that
    doctors have also learned to quickly identify patients at risk of blood
    clots or "cytokine storms," when the body's immune system attacks
    itself.

    "We know that when people are getting standardized treatment, it makes
    it much easier to deal with the complications that occur because you
    already have protocols in place," he said. "And that's definitely
    what's happened in many hospitals around the country."

    Mateen stressed that hospital capacity has been key in reducing the
    death rate in the UK because when "staff are stretched, mistakes are
    made."

    "It's night and day to take care of someone with a disease you've never
    seen before, than taking care of someone where you've seen hundreds,"
    Horwitz told The Wall Street Journal. "It's also probably that the
    hospitals are not overwhelmed, but that can change."

    Indeed, the number of new cases in the United States hit a record high
    of more than 77,000 on Thursday and hospitalizations hit record highs
    in numerous states like Ohio, Iowa, Utah, and Oklahoma. Hospitals in
    Utah, Wisconsin, Idaho, and others are already nearing full capacity.

    As hospitals in hot spots are stretched thin, Horwitz stressed that
    wearing a mask could mean the difference between life and death.

    A study by researchers at the University of California, San Francisco
    and Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health published in the
    Journal of General Internal Medicine found that masks may reduce the
    amount of the virus the wearer is exposed to, "leading to higher rates
    of mild or asymptomatic infection."

    "Masks, depending on the material and design, filter out a majority of
    viral particles, but not all," the study said. The researchers found
    that in some cases, "if 80% of the population wears a moderately
    effective mask, nearly half of the projected deaths over the next two
    months could be prevented."

    Countries that had high levels of mask-wearing before the pandemic have
    fared better than other nations and subsequent resurgences have been
    less deadly.

    "The more virus you get into your body, the more sick you are likely to
    get," said study co-author Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease expert
    at UCSF.

    "Masks can prevent many infections altogether, as was seen in health
    care workers when we moved to universal masking. We're also saying that
    masks, which filter out a majority of viral particles, can lead to a
    less severe infection if you do get one," said Gandhi. "If you get
    infected, but have no symptoms that's the best way you can ever get a
    virus."

    The study compared outbreaks on two cruise ships in the winter. In
    February, 18% of 634 people who tested positive aboard the Diamond
    Princess cruise ship in Japan were asymptomatic. But a cruise ship in
    Argentina, where workers handed out surgical masks to all passengers
    and N95 masks to all staff after the first passenger tested positive,
    had an 81% asymptomatic rate among 128 people who tested positive.

    Likewise, as hundreds of food processing plant workers died from the
    coronavirus, plants that distributed masks to workers saw high
    asymptomatic rates. A seafood processing plant in Oregon and a Tyson
    chicken processing plant in Arkansas had 95% asymptomatic rates among
    hundreds of infections after giving workers masks.

    Gandhi said that public health agencies like the Centers for Disease
    Control and Prevention should stress these findings along with the
    current messaging that wearing a mask prevents asymptomatic people from
    spreading the virus to others.

    "We messaged that mask wearing will protect other people, and that did
    not seem to convince our country as much as we would have hoped," she
    said. "If you think something's going to help you or your family, you
    are going to do it more than if you think you're helping others."

    Based upon this, it may be time for me to reevaluate my position on masks.


    Personally I've never accepted the claim that masks were effective. No
    one has ever done a real, direct study that show they work. In fact,
    it's starting to look like wearing masks may actually be *bad* for
    you.

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