• What if atheists could somehow be prevented from lying?

    From Kaptain Krunch@21:1/5 to me@nothere.biz on Tue Apr 12 02:42:45 2016
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    In article <c9bkp3F1c8qU1@mid.individual.net>,
    felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote:

    On 29-September-2014 11:03 AM, mur@.not. wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:42:23 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
    ..
    "felix_unger" skrev i meddelelsen
    news:c8l6qoF7l3bU1@mid.individual.net...
    On 26-September-2014 8:00 PM, Malte Runz wrote:
    (snip)

    Actually it is you who has to defend the possible existence of
    Dog-heads, Aliens and probings, Atlantis, Bigfoot and so on, in order to >>>> being to claim that simple heresay is evidence for the existence of
    gods.

    There is NO EVIDENCE. So if you are waiting for some evidence from God
    you are making a mistake. God explained thru his servant Paul that he deselected "evidence" and chose another way called TRUST. He chose the "foolishness of preaching" to save them that believe."

    AGAIN "The Jews require a sign and the Greeks seek after wisdom but we
    preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock and unto the
    Greeks foolishness but unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks,
    Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God." (1 Cor 1:22 KJV)
    Jimbo

    so there's NO evidence for Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, UFO's, etc., >>> etc., ...
    That's right. There isn't.
    http://is.gd/jKsoLt

    http://www.ufoevidence.org/

    --

    http://www.olypen.com/gerrit/index.php

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  • From Kaptain Krunch@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 12 02:45:50 2016
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    In article <lur43h$4h6$1@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :
    Would they be able to post at all?

    What lies?

    GREAT QUESTION. "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the
    Christ. He is anti-christ that denieth the father and the son" (1 John
    2)
    Jimbo

    --

    http://www.olypen.com/gerrit/index.php

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  • From Malte Runz@21:1/5 to pilgrim2@polypen.com on Tue Apr 12 12:59:39 2016
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    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 02:42:45 -0700, Kaptain Krunch
    <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:

    In article <c9bkp3F1c8qU1@mid.individual.net>,
    felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote:

    On 29-September-2014 11:03 AM, mur@.not. wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:42:23 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> > wrote:
    ..
    "felix_unger" skrev i meddelelsen
    news:c8l6qoF7l3bU1@mid.individual.net...
    On 26-September-2014 8:00 PM, Malte Runz wrote:
    (snip)

    Actually it is you who has to defend the possible existence of
    Dog-heads, Aliens and probings, Atlantis, Bigfoot and so on, in order to
    being to claim that simple heresay is evidence for the existence of
    gods.

    There is NO EVIDENCE. So if you are waiting for some evidence from God
    you are making a mistake. ...

    (I assume you're responding to my reply to felix_unger)

    I'm not waiting for evidence from God. I don't believe God exists, in
    case you have forgotten.


    ... God explained thru his servant Paul ...

    I couldn't care less about what some guy claimed was revealed to him
    by a god thousands of years ago. Hearsay is not evidence, which was
    what the debate was about.

    (snip)

    --
    Malte Runz

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  • From Jeanne Douglas@21:1/5 to Kaptain Krunch on Tue Apr 12 05:33:19 2016
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    In article <pilgrim2-89BDB5.02455012042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:

    In article <lur43h$4h6$1@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :
    Would they be able to post at all?

    What lies?

    GREAT QUESTION. "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the
    Christ. He is anti-christ that denieth the father and the son" (1 John
    2)

    What does that quote have to do with the real world?

    --

    JD

    "If ANYONE will not welcome you or listen to
    your words, LEAVE that home or town and shake
    the dust off your feet." Matthew 10:14

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to Kaptain Krunch on Wed Apr 13 07:59:12 2016
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    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 02:42:45 -0700, Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:

    In article <c9bkp3F1c8qU1@mid.individual.net>,
    felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote:

    On 29-September-2014 11:03 AM, mur@.not. wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:42:23 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> >> > wrote:
    ..
    "felix_unger" skrev i meddelelsen
    news:c8l6qoF7l3bU1@mid.individual.net...
    On 26-September-2014 8:00 PM, Malte Runz wrote:
    (snip)

    Actually it is you who has to defend the possible existence of
    Dog-heads, Aliens and probings, Atlantis, Bigfoot and so on, in order to
    being to claim that simple heresay is evidence for the existence of
    gods.

    There is NO EVIDENCE. So if you are waiting for some evidence from God
    you are making a mistake. God explained thru his servant Paul that he >deselected "evidence" and chose another way called TRUST. He chose the >"foolishness of preaching" to save them that believe."

    AGAIN "The Jews require a sign and the Greeks seek after wisdom but we
    preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock and unto the
    Greeks foolishness but unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, >Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God." (1 Cor 1:22 KJV)
    Jimbo

    Yep.

    the dukester, American-American

    *****
    "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
    Pope Paul VI
    *****

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  • From Virgil@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 13 09:55:14 2016
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    They have no need to, so most of them don't!
    --
    Virgil
    "Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens." (Schiller)

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to Virgil on Wed Apr 13 15:07:04 2016
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    XPost: alt.christnet

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 09:55:14 -0600, Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote:

    They have no need to, so most of them don't!

    Well, it is true that no atheist can tell a lie from a lie.

    the dukester, American-American

    *****
    "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
    Pope Paul VI
    *****

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  • From Virgil@21:1/5 to duke on Wed Apr 13 19:02:25 2016
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    XPost: alt.christnet

    In article <5m9tgbt92l963a5ujv81tbtj0fg7o6t6tv@4ax.com>,
    duke <duck32@cox.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 09:55:14 -0600, Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote:

    They have no need to, so most of them don't!

    Well, it is true

    As soon as ducksoup says that, I immediately check to be sure he doesn't
    have his hand on my wallet.
    --
    Virgil
    "Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens." (Schiller)

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  • From Oxyaena@21:1/5 to Kaptain Krunch on Wed Apr 13 21:14:47 2016
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    XPost: alt.christnet

    Kaptain Krunch wrote:
    In article <lur43h$4h6$1@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :
    Would they be able to post at all?

    What lies?

    GREAT QUESTION. "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the
    Christ. He is anti-christ that denieth the father and the son" (1 John
    2)
    Jimbo

    John differs so much from the other gospels some consider it to have
    been written by a Gnostic than a Jew, considering that the Gospel of
    John has literally hundreds of examples of Gnostic influences on the
    writings penned by the author, whom also presumably wrote the Book of Revelations, which is literally a twelve hour acid trip through Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven all at once. No, seriously, the Book of
    Revelations is like having a guy translate it from English into Farsi,
    then into Hebrew, then into Basque, then to have it translated back into English by a guy who spoke only Chinese.

    The author of John presumably had a bias against Jews, considering he
    treats the Jews a bit less mercifully than, say, the Synoptic Gospels.
    The Synoptic Gospels are so much alike, they had to all be based off of
    Mark, which in turn was based off of another, lost gospel called the "Q Gospel", which contained a lot of Jesus's supposed sayings.

    Considering that the use of hallucinogens was a common feature of
    religious ceremonies, it wouldn't be surprising if the author of
    Revelations was seriously dosed up on Acid or something. When Moses saw
    the burning bush, don't you think it would've occurred to him to lay off
    the ganja?

    --
    "I would rather betray the whole world than let the whole world betray
    me." - Cao Cao

    http://oxyaena.org/

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  • From Kaptain Krunch@21:1/5 to Oxyaena on Wed Apr 13 19:00:27 2016
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    XPost: alt.christnet

    In article <nemqu8$8kk$1@news.albasani.net>,
    Oxyaena <oxyaena@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Kaptain Krunch wrote:
    In article <lur43h$4h6$1@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :
    Would they be able to post at all?

    What lies?

    GREAT QUESTION. "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ. He is anti-christ that denieth the father and the son" (1 John
    2)
    Jimbo

    John differs so much from the other gospels some consider it to have
    been written by a Gnostic than a Jew, considering that the Gospel of
    John has literally hundreds of examples of Gnostic influences on the
    writings penned by the author, whom also presumably wrote the Book of Revelations, which is literally a twelve hour acid trip through Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven all at once. No, seriously, the Book of
    Revelations is like having a guy translate it from English into Farsi,
    then into Hebrew, then into Basque, then to have it translated back into English by a guy who spoke only Chinese.

    The author of John presumably had a bias against Jews, considering he
    treats the Jews a bit less mercifully than, say, the Synoptic Gospels.
    The Synoptic Gospels are so much alike, they had to all be based off of
    Mark, which in turn was based off of another, lost gospel called the "Q Gospel", which contained a lot of Jesus's supposed sayings.

    Considering that the use of hallucinogens was a common feature of
    religious ceremonies, it wouldn't be surprising if the author of
    Revelations was seriously dosed up on Acid or something. When Moses saw
    the burning bush, don't you think it would've occurred to him to lay off
    the ganja?

    DENIED. Actually the above is your business and not mine. If you have
    done your homework who am I to dispute?
    Jimbo

    --

    http://www.olypen.com/gerrit/index.php

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to Virgil on Thu Apr 14 12:45:51 2016
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    XPost: alt.christnet

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 19:02:25 -0600, Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote:

    In article <5m9tgbt92l963a5ujv81tbtj0fg7o6t6tv@4ax.com>,
    duke <duck32@cox.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 09:55:14 -0600, Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote:

    They have no need to, so most of them don't!

    Well, it is true

    As soon as ducksoup says that, I immediately check to be sure he doesn't
    have his hand on my wallet.

    What did you find?

    the dukester, American-American

    *****
    "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
    Pope Paul VI
    *****

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  • From Oxyaena@21:1/5 to Kaptain Krunch on Wed Apr 13 23:15:35 2016
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, sci.skeptic
    XPost: alt.christnet

    Kaptain Krunch wrote:
    In article <nemqu8$8kk$1@news.albasani.net>,
    Oxyaena <oxyaena@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Kaptain Krunch wrote:
    In article <lur43h$4h6$1@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :
    Would they be able to post at all?

    What lies?

    GREAT QUESTION. "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the
    Christ. He is anti-christ that denieth the father and the son" (1 John
    2)
    Jimbo

    John differs so much from the other gospels some consider it to have
    been written by a Gnostic than a Jew, considering that the Gospel of
    John has literally hundreds of examples of Gnostic influences on the
    writings penned by the author, whom also presumably wrote the Book of
    Revelations, which is literally a twelve hour acid trip through Hell,
    Purgatory, and Heaven all at once. No, seriously, the Book of
    Revelations is like having a guy translate it from English into Farsi,
    then into Hebrew, then into Basque, then to have it translated back into
    English by a guy who spoke only Chinese.

    The author of John presumably had a bias against Jews, considering he
    treats the Jews a bit less mercifully than, say, the Synoptic Gospels.
    The Synoptic Gospels are so much alike, they had to all be based off of
    Mark, which in turn was based off of another, lost gospel called the "Q
    Gospel", which contained a lot of Jesus's supposed sayings.

    Considering that the use of hallucinogens was a common feature of
    religious ceremonies, it wouldn't be surprising if the author of
    Revelations was seriously dosed up on Acid or something. When Moses saw
    the burning bush, don't you think it would've occurred to him to lay off
    the ganja?

    DENIED. Actually the above is your business and not mine. If you have
    done your homework who am I to dispute?
    Jimbo

    Some people have actually thought that the Book of Revelations shouldn't
    be considered canon, as far back as Gregory the Great there were doubts
    as to Revelations' canonicity. But alas, I am not the arbiter of whether
    a book is canon or not. Save that to the Clergy, not me.

    There's also the Apocrypha, which is of dubious status, the Apocrypha
    isn't in the Masoretic text but in the Septuagint, some Bibles have it
    (the King James Version did until 1769, when Oxford standardized it, the
    Church of England prints still contain the Apocrypha, the Latin Vulgate contains some of the Apocrypha). I`m not that knowledgeable regarding
    the Apocrypha, I have to do more research on that.

    There were some mistranslations in the King James Version, as well as
    some non-included material, either because the translators thought said material was irrelevant or that the materials (such as the Dead Sea
    Scrolls, which contain some marked differences from the modern Masoretic
    text) weren't available to them. Honestly, you can believe what you want
    as long as you don't shove it down my throat. Some atheists try to do
    the same when I criticize Dawkins.

    One particular error is Moses's horns, which in reality were "rays of
    light" in the original text, but the words sounded similar to "horns",
    and that explains that particular error, which is the translators' faults.



    --
    "I would rather betray the whole world than let the whole world betray
    me." - Cao Cao

    http://oxyaena.org/

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  • From Virgil@21:1/5 to duke on Thu Apr 14 12:05:37 2016
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    XPost: alt.christnet

    In article <lplvgbtr55ehsd8mrpjddtjidmnm5obci4@4ax.com>,
    duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 19:02:25 -0600, Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote:

    In article <5m9tgbt92l963a5ujv81tbtj0fg7o6t6tv@4ax.com>,
    duke <duck32@cox.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 09:55:14 -0600, Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote:

    They have no need to, so most of them don't!

    Well, it is true

    As soon as ducksoup says that, I immediately check to be sure he doesn't >have his hand on my wallet.

    What did you find?

    the dukester, American-American

    Metaphorically, at least, your hands on veryone's wallets.
    --
    Virgil
    "Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens." (Schiller)

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  • From Virgil@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 14 12:12:56 2016
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    XPost: alt.christnet

    In article <d1mvgb15glftr3nu2ohfcjj184l6ohdbi9@4ax.com>, mur@. wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:02:07 -0600, Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> wrote:

    In article <pilgrim2-89BDB5.02455012042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:

    In article <lur43h$4h6$1@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :
    Would they be able to post at all?

    What lies?

    GREAT QUESTION. "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the
    Christ

    That assumes without evidence that there is any such thing as a "Christ"

    You have no idea if the author had evidence or not. You appear to have strong faith he did not, but your own faith is all you've got and I have no reason to put any faith in your faith being correct.

    Until the author defines or explains what he means by "being the Christ", nobody but that author can know what that author means by it.

    By the way, just what is "Christ" in your lexicon?

    LOL... You claimed there is no evidence for something and then reveal
    that
    you don't even know what is being referred to by the term.

    Do you know? It is not something in everyone's lexicon. ANd I strongly
    suspect that it has many different meanings for those for whom it has
    any meaning.
    --
    Virgil
    "Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens." (Schiller)

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  • From Kaptain Krunch@21:1/5 to felix on Sun Apr 17 14:24:22 2016
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    XPost: alt.christnet

    In article <dng8vsF4ajpU1@mid.individual.net>,
    felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

    On 15-April-2016 4:12 AM, Virgil wrote:
    In article <d1mvgb15glftr3nu2ohfcjj184l6ohdbi9@4ax.com>, mur@. wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:02:07 -0600, Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> wrote: >>
    In article <pilgrim2-89BDB5.02455012042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:

    In article <lur43h$4h6$1@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :
    Would they be able to post at all?
    What lies?
    GREAT QUESTION. "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the >>>> Christ
    That assumes without evidence that there is any such thing as a "Christ" >> You have no idea if the author had evidence or not. You appear to have
    strong faith he did not, but your own faith is all you've got and I have no
    reason to put any faith in your faith being correct.
    Until the author defines or explains what he means by "being the Christ", nobody but that author can know what that author means by it.
    By the way, just what is "Christ" in your lexicon?
    LOL... You claimed there is no evidence for something and then reveal >> that
    you don't even know what is being referred to by the term.
    Do you know? It is not something in everyone's lexicon. And I strongly suspect that it has many different meanings for those for whom it has
    any meaning.

    THE GLADSTONE quote did not copy over to this post. Great Quote: "As
    long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world" -William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain

    ETERNAL HATRED is the Mecca/Medina religion.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ

    --

    http://www.olypen.com/gerrit/index.php

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  • From felix@21:1/5 to Virgil on Sun Apr 17 11:55:46 2016
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    XPost: alt.christnet

    On 15-April-2016 4:12 AM, Virgil wrote:
    In article <d1mvgb15glftr3nu2ohfcjj184l6ohdbi9@4ax.com>, mur@. wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:02:07 -0600, Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> wrote: >>
    In article <pilgrim2-89BDB5.02455012042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:

    In article <lur43h$4h6$1@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :
    Would they be able to post at all?
    What lies?
    GREAT QUESTION. "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the
    Christ
    That assumes without evidence that there is any such thing as a "Christ"
    You have no idea if the author had evidence or not. You appear to have >> strong faith he did not, but your own faith is all you've got and I have no >> reason to put any faith in your faith being correct.
    Until the author defines or explains what he means by "being the Christ", nobody but that author can know what that author means by it.
    By the way, just what is "Christ" in your lexicon?
    LOL... You claimed there is no evidence for something and then reveal >> that
    you don't even know what is being referred to by the term.
    Do you know? It is not something in everyone's lexicon. And I strongly suspect that it has many different meanings for those for whom it has
    any meaning.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ

    --
    "As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world" -William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
    http://www.siotw.org/
    http://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/

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  • From mur@.@21:1/5 to Virgil on Sat Apr 30 22:47:13 2016
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    XPost: alt.christnet

    On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 12:12:56 -0600, Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote:

    In article <d1mvgb15glftr3nu2ohfcjj184l6ohdbi9@4ax.com>, mur@. wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:02:07 -0600, Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> wrote: >>
    In article <pilgrim2-89BDB5.02455012042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:

    In article <lur43h$4h6$1@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :
    Would they be able to post at all?

    What lies?

    GREAT QUESTION. "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the
    Christ

    That assumes without evidence that there is any such thing as a "Christ"

    You have no idea if the author had evidence or not. You appear to have >> strong faith he did not, but your own faith is all you've got and I have no >> reason to put any faith in your faith being correct.

    Until the author defines or explains what he means by "being the Christ", >nobody but that author can know what that author means by it.

    Except for you who somehow knows there's no evidence.

    By the way, just what is "Christ" in your lexicon?

    LOL... You claimed there is no evidence for something and then reveal
    that
    you don't even know what is being referred to by the term.

    Do you know? It is not something in everyone's lexicon. ANd I strongly >suspect that it has many different meanings for those for whom it has
    any meaning.

    So you somehow know there's no evidence for any of the meanings, or at least
    you'd like people to think you somehow can know it.

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  • From Virgil@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 30 21:46:27 2016
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, sci.skeptic
    XPost: alt.christnet

    In article <chraib1n190cns1s39ivk1vnf6fh5lq8kk@4ax.com>, mur@. wrote:

    On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 12:12:56 -0600, Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote:

    In article <d1mvgb15glftr3nu2ohfcjj184l6ohdbi9@4ax.com>, mur@. wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:02:07 -0600, Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> wrote: >>
    In article <pilgrim2-89BDB5.02455012042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:

    In article <lur43h$4h6$1@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :
    Would they be able to post at all?

    What lies?

    GREAT QUESTION. "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the >> >> Christ

    That assumes without evidence that there is any such thing as a "Christ" >>
    You have no idea if the author had evidence or not. You appear to have >> strong faith he did not, but your own faith is all you've got and I have >> no
    reason to put any faith in your faith being correct.

    Until the author defines or explains what he means by "being the Christ", >nobody but that author can know what that author means by it.

    Except for you who somehow knows there's no evidence.

    What evidence other than claims of beleif exist?
    I do not know of any that, when analysed carefully enough, are any more
    than mere claims of belief.

    By the way, just what is "Christ" in your lexicon?

    LOL... You claimed there is no evidence for something and then reveal >> that
    you don't even know what is being referred to by the term.

    Do you know? It is not something in everyone's lexicon. ANd I strongly >suspect that it has many different meanings for those for whom it has
    any meaning.

    So you somehow know there's no evidence for any of the meanings, or at
    least
    you'd like people to think you somehow can know it.

    I certainly do not know myself of any such evidence,
    and you certainly have not provided me with any.
    --
    Virgil
    "Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens." (Schiller)

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