• Christ of the Old Testament

    From Kaptain Krunch@21:1/5 to Kurt Kurt on Tue Apr 12 06:19:48 2016
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    In article <8984764f-21fc-4b93-99ca-7313939ae061@googlegroups.com>,
    Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> wrote:

    There are many trees in Paradise, Genesis says, not just the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and the Tree of Life. Jewish/Christian/Mandaean tradition is that the trees are allegory.

    DENIED. Whatever it was (the tree of Knowledge) it killed the entire
    human race except 3 people.

    Ezekiel talks about the Trees, where Eden and the desired Second Temple are a dream vision, all mixed together. It's clearly allegory.

    AGREED

    Philo and the Historical Jesus and the Mandaean followers of John the Baptist list 5 trees. Philo's and the Mandaean list are close to the same. Jesus doesn't list them. Philo says flat out explicitly the Trees are allegory. The Jesus and Mandaean Trees are very similar. Do/did the Mandaeans and did Jesus consider it allegory? Jesus more than the Mandaeans. Hard to say about the Mandaeans, it's secret, they are mad at Jesus for blabbing their secrets.

    WHO CARES about the "historical Jesus"? It is the biblical Jesus that
    is real. PHILO? is that Philo's Deli in Alexandria? He gave up his
    past food job to talk about philosophy. Mandaeans?? They throw part of
    the Bible away because it (the Bible) doesn't appreciate some of the
    things they are doing.

    MORE: Jesus Christ is the Saviour of the World and that is no allegory.
    "God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that
    whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life"
    (John 3 KJV)
    Jimbo

    --

    http://www.olypen.com/gerrit/index.php

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  • From Jeanne Douglas@21:1/5 to Kaptain Krunch on Tue Apr 12 19:34:06 2016
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    In article <pilgrim2-815D75.06194812042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:

    In article <8984764f-21fc-4b93-99ca-7313939ae061@googlegroups.com>,
    Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> wrote:

    There are many trees in Paradise, Genesis says, not just the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and the Tree of Life. Jewish/Christian/Mandaean tradition is that the trees are allegory.

    DENIED. Whatever it was (the tree of Knowledge) it killed the entire
    human race except 3 people.

    Ezekiel talks about the Trees, where Eden and the desired Second Temple are a
    dream vision, all mixed together. It's clearly allegory.

    AGREED

    Philo and the Historical Jesus and the Mandaean followers of John the Baptist
    list 5 trees. Philo's and the Mandaean list are close to the same. Jesus doesn't list them. Philo says flat out explicitly the Trees are allegory. The
    Jesus and Mandaean Trees are very similar. Do/did the Mandaeans and did Jesus
    consider it allegory? Jesus more than the Mandaeans. Hard to say about the Mandaeans, it's secret, they are mad at Jesus for blabbing their secrets.

    WHO CARES about the "historical Jesus"? It is the biblical Jesus that
    is real.

    Prove it.

    --

    JD

    "If ANYONE will not welcome you or listen to
    your words, LEAVE that home or town and shake
    the dust off your feet." Matthew 10:14

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  • From Virgil@21:1/5 to Kaptain Krunch on Tue Apr 12 21:12:16 2016
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    In article <pilgrim2-815D75.06194812042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:



    WHO CARES about the "historical Jesus"?
    It is the biblical Jesus that is real.

    How can the myth be reality if the reality is mythic?
    --
    Virgil
    "Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens." (Schiller)

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  • From Kaptain Krunch@21:1/5 to Virgil on Wed Apr 13 18:48:06 2016
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    In article <VIRGIL-950BD4.21121612042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote:

    In article <pilgrim2-815D75.06194812042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:



    WHO CARES about the "historical Jesus"?
    It is the biblical Jesus that is real.

    How can the myth be reality if the reality is mythic?

    GREAT QUESTION. Here is a great statement. "God so loved the world
    that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him
    should not perish but have everlasting life" (John 3 KJV)
    See how easy it is?
    Jimbo

    --

    http://www.olypen.com/gerrit/index.php

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  • From Jeanne Douglas@21:1/5 to Kaptain Krunch on Thu Apr 14 05:48:35 2016
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    In article <pilgrim2-92BB86.18480613042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:

    In article <VIRGIL-950BD4.21121612042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote:

    In article <pilgrim2-815D75.06194812042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:



    WHO CARES about the "historical Jesus"?
    It is the biblical Jesus that is real.

    How can the myth be reality if the reality is mythic?

    GREAT QUESTION. Here is a great statement. "God so loved the world
    that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him
    should not perish but have everlasting life" (John 3 KJV)

    What does that quote have to do with the question you were asked? And
    what does it have to do with the real world?

    --

    JD

    "If ANYONE will not welcome you or listen to
    your words, LEAVE that home or town and shake
    the dust off your feet." Matthew 10:14

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to Kaptain Krunch on Thu Apr 14 12:17:39 2016
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    On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 18:48:06 -0700, Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:

    In article <VIRGIL-950BD4.21121612042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote:

    In article <pilgrim2-815D75.06194812042016@news.giganews.com>,
    Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> wrote:



    WHO CARES about the "historical Jesus"?
    It is the biblical Jesus that is real.

    How can the myth be reality if the reality is mythic?

    GREAT QUESTION. Here is a great statement. "God so loved the world
    that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him
    should not perish but have everlasting life" (John 3 KJV)
    See how easy it is?
    Jimbo

    Virgil's goose is cooked, carved and consumed.

    the dukester, American-American

    *****
    "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
    Pope Paul VI
    *****

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