"Let me just say it comes from many various areas of biology: embryology, the fossil record, morphology, genetics, biogeography. All these different areas come together to show that evolution, in fact, is true. As true as anything is in science."
https://ffrf.org/publications/freethought-today/item/28552-evolution-and-atheism-best-friends-forever-jerry-coyne
And for those here that say atheism comes more from criticism of religion than evolution:
'Here's my thesis for the evening: The fact of evolution is not only inherently atheistic, it is inherently anti-theistic. It goes against the notion that there is a god.
Accepting evolution and science tends to promote the acceptance of atheism."
Coyne isn't just some round about nutjob atheist like most here, so he should be taken seriously. Consider the definition and use of the word 'evolution' and that it is atheistic, even inherently anti-theistic. Why would such an atheist lie?
On 7/22/23 2:57 PM, Glenn wrote:
"Let me just say it comes from many various areas of biology:
embryology, the fossil record, morphology, genetics, biogeography. All
these different areas come together to show that evolution, in fact, is
true. As true as anything is in science."
https://ffrf.org/publications/freethought-today/item/28552-evolution-and-atheism-best-friends-forever-jerry-coyne
And for those here that say atheism comes more from criticism of religion than evolution:
'Here's my thesis for the evening: The fact of evolution is not only
inherently atheistic, it is inherently anti-theistic. It goes against
the notion that there is a god.
Accepting evolution and science tends to promote the acceptance of atheism." >>
Coyne isn't just some round about nutjob atheist like most here, so he
should be taken seriously. Consider the definition and use of the word
'evolution' and that it is atheistic, even inherently anti-theistic. Why
would such an atheist lie?
What makes you think Coyne isn't a nutjob? Why can't he be mistaken
rather than lying? You're making a lot of unwarranted assumptions here.
John Harshman <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/22/23 2:57 PM, Glenn wrote:
"Let me just say it comes from many various areas of biology:
embryology, the fossil record, morphology, genetics, biogeography. All
these different areas come together to show that evolution, in fact, is >> true. As true as anything is in science."
https://ffrf.org/publications/freethought-today/item/28552-evolution-and-atheism-best-friends-forever-jerry-coyne
And for those here that say atheism comes more from criticism of religion than evolution:
'Here's my thesis for the evening: The fact of evolution is not only
inherently atheistic, it is inherently anti-theistic. It goes against
the notion that there is a god.
Accepting evolution and science tends to promote the acceptance of atheism."
Coyne isn't just some round about nutjob atheist like most here, so he
should be taken seriously. Consider the definition and use of the word
'evolution' and that it is atheistic, even inherently anti-theistic. Why >> would such an atheist lie?
What makes you think Coyne isn't a nutjob? Why can't he be mistaken
rather than lying? You're making a lot of unwarranted assumptions here.
Weirdest thing is that truth be told Glenn and Coyne are probably pretty close on culture war issues, especially when it comes to how trans people should be regarded.
As for atheism it was my taking the Judaic and Christian parts of the scriptures seriously that turned me more toward atheism than an understanding of evolutionary biology *per se* and I have thought Coyne too harsh on accommodationists and so-called faithiests and had too much a bee in his bonnet toward Templeton (they did bankroll interesting stuff like free will symposia at FSU).
But that’s not really my beef with recent Coyne crap. He’s jumped the shark
in a way that would make Desantis proud as an ally.
On 7/22/23 2:57 PM, Glenn wrote:
"Let me just say it comes from many various areas of biology: embryology, the fossil record, morphology, genetics, biogeography. All these different areas come together to show that evolution, in fact, is true. As true as anything is in science."
https://ffrf.org/publications/freethought-today/item/28552-evolution-and-atheism-best-friends-forever-jerry-coyne
And for those here that say atheism comes more from criticism of religion than evolution:
'Here's my thesis for the evening: The fact of evolution is not only inherently atheistic, it is inherently anti-theistic. It goes against the notion that there is a god.
Accepting evolution and science tends to promote the acceptance of atheism."
Coyne isn't just some round about nutjob atheist like most here, so he should be taken seriously. Consider the definition and use of the word 'evolution' and that it is atheistic, even inherently anti-theistic. Why would such an atheist lie?
What makes you think Coyne isn't a nutjob? Why can't he be mistaken
rather than lying? You're making a lot of unwarranted assumptions here.
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 7:05:48 PM UTC-7, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
John Harshman <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/22/23 2:57 PM, Glenn wrote:Weirdest thing is that truth be told Glenn and Coyne are probably pretty
"Let me just say it comes from many various areas of biology:
embryology, the fossil record, morphology, genetics, biogeography. All >>>> these different areas come together to show that evolution, in fact, is >>>> true. As true as anything is in science."
https://ffrf.org/publications/freethought-today/item/28552-evolution-and-atheism-best-friends-forever-jerry-coyne
And for those here that say atheism comes more from criticism of
religion than evolution:
'Here's my thesis for the evening: The fact of evolution is not only
inherently atheistic, it is inherently anti-theistic. It goes against
the notion that there is a god.
Accepting evolution and science tends to promote the acceptance of atheism."
Coyne isn't just some round about nutjob atheist like most here, so he >>>> should be taken seriously. Consider the definition and use of the word >>>> 'evolution' and that it is atheistic, even inherently anti-theistic. Why >>>> would such an atheist lie?
What makes you think Coyne isn't a nutjob? Why can't he be mistaken
rather than lying? You're making a lot of unwarranted assumptions here.
close on culture war issues, especially when it comes to how trans people
should be regarded.
As for atheism it was my taking the Judaic and Christian parts of the
scriptures seriously that turned me more toward atheism than an
understanding of evolutionary biology *per se* and I have thought Coyne too >> harsh on accommodationists and so-called faithiests and had too much a bee >> in his bonnet toward Templeton (they did bankroll interesting stuff like
free will symposia at FSU).
But that’s not really my beef with recent Coyne crap. He’s jumped the shark
in a way that would make Desantis proud as an ally.
Nothing here in response to the OP. Maybe Coyne dislikes hot wings too.
Who cares what you claim turned you toward atheism?
[ … ]
But that’s not really my beef with recent Coyne crap. He’s jumped the shark
in a way that would make Desantis proud as an ally.
On 2023-07-23 02:01:53 +0000, *Hemidactylus* said:
[ … ]
But that’s not really my beef with recent Coyne crap. He’s jumped the sharkI got fed up with Jerry Coyne several years ago when he made it plain
in a way that would make Desantis proud as an ally.
that he thinks that Palestinians have no right to exist and that
everything Israel does is good.
"Let me just say it comes from many various areas of biology: embryology, the fossil record, morphology, genetics, biogeography. All these different areas come together to show that evolution, in fact, is true. As true as anything is in science."
https://ffrf.org/publications/freethought-today/item/28552-evolution-and-atheism-best-friends-forever-jerry-coyne
And for those here that say atheism comes more from criticism of religion than evolution:
'Here's my thesis for the evening: The fact of evolution is not only inherently atheistic, it is inherently anti-theistic. It goes against the notion that there is a god.
Accepting evolution and science tends to promote the acceptance of atheism."
Coyne isn't just some round about nutjob atheist like most here, so he should be taken seriously. Consider the definition and use of the word 'evolution' and that it is atheistic, even inherently anti-theistic. Why would such an atheist lie?
On 7/23/23 12:51 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
On 2023-07-23 02:01:53 +0000, *Hemidactylus* said:
[ … ]
But that’s not really my beef with recent Coyne crap. He’s jumped the >>> shark
in a way that would make Desantis proud as an ally.
I got fed up with Jerry Coyne several years ago when he made it plain
that he thinks that Palestinians have no right to exist and that
everything Israel does is good.
I don't think he's a nutjob, however.
I liked his book Why Evolution is True more than I liked Richard
Dawkins's book on the same subject published at about the same time.
Jerry can be a nutjob and still do good science and write good books.
Think of Linus Pauling and vitamin C. Never read Why Evolution is True,
but Speciation is brilliant. Still, he has quite a few wacko opinions.
On 2023-07-23 02:01:53 +0000, *Hemidactylus* said:
[ … ]
But that’s not really my beef with recent Coyne crap. He’s jumped the
shark
in a way that would make Desantis proud as an ally.
I got fed up with Jerry Coyne several years ago when he made it plain
that he thinks that Palestinians have no right to exist and that
everything Israel does is good.
I don't think he's a nutjob, however.
I liked his book Why Evolution is True more than I liked Richard
Dawkins's book on the same subject published at about the same time.
On 7/23/23 12:51 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
On 2023-07-23 02:01:53 +0000, *Hemidactylus* said:
[ … ]
But that’s not really my beef with recent Coyne crap. He’s jumped the >>> shark
in a way that would make Desantis proud as an ally.
I got fed up with Jerry Coyne several years ago when he made it plain
that he thinks that Palestinians have no right to exist and that
everything Israel does is good.
I don't think he's a nutjob, however.
I liked his book Why Evolution is True more than I liked Richard
Dawkins's book on the same subject published at about the same time.
Jerry can be a nutjob and still do good science and write good books.
Think of Linus Pauling and vitamin C. Never read Why Evolution is True,
but Speciation is brilliant. Still, he has quite a few wacko opinions.
John Harshman <john.harshman@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/22/23 2:57 PM, Glenn wrote:Weirdest thing is that truth be told Glenn and Coyne are probably pretty close on culture war issues, especially when it comes to how trans people should be regarded.
"Let me just say it comes from many various areas of biology:
embryology, the fossil record, morphology, genetics, biogeography. All
these different areas come together to show that evolution, in fact, is
true. As true as anything is in science."
https://ffrf.org/publications/freethought-today/item/28552-evolution-and-atheism-best-friends-forever-jerry-coyne
And for those here that say atheism comes more from criticism of religion than evolution:
'Here's my thesis for the evening: The fact of evolution is not only
inherently atheistic, it is inherently anti-theistic. It goes against
the notion that there is a god.
Accepting evolution and science tends to promote the acceptance of atheism."
Coyne isn't just some round about nutjob atheist like most here, so he
should be taken seriously. Consider the definition and use of the word
'evolution' and that it is atheistic, even inherently anti-theistic. Why >>> would such an atheist lie?
What makes you think Coyne isn't a nutjob? Why can't he be mistaken
rather than lying? You're making a lot of unwarranted assumptions here.
As for atheism it was my taking the Judaic and Christian parts of the scriptures seriously that turned me more toward atheism than an
understanding of evolutionary biology *per se* and I have thought Coyne too harsh on accommodationists and so-called faithiests and had too much a bee
in his bonnet toward Templeton (they did bankroll interesting stuff like
free will symposia at FSU).
But that’s not really my beef with recent Coyne crap. He’s jumped the shark
in a way that would make Desantis proud as an ally.
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