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    From Glenn@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 20 12:48:03 2023
    "Biden has acknowledged that when he was vice president, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin. At the time, Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, and at the time, Hunter had a highly lucrative role on the board
    receiving thousands of dollars per month. The then-vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion of critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired."

    Anyone here?

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  • From Abner@21:1/5 to Glenn on Thu Jul 20 15:05:46 2023
    Glenn wrote:
    Anyone here?

    You might want to look at alt.atheism to see what happens when off-topic posts start dominating a newsgroup; it's turned into a real cesspool. Hopefully talk.origins won't also be drowned in off-topic posts ... they've been happening a lot lately,
    unfortunately.

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  • From John Harshman@21:1/5 to Glenn on Thu Jul 20 16:27:58 2023
    On 7/20/23 12:48 PM, Glenn wrote:
    "Biden has acknowledged that when he was vice president, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin. At the time, Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, and at the time, Hunter had a highly lucrative role on the board
    receiving thousands of dollars per month. The then-vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion of critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired."

    Anyone here?

    It's customary when quoting to cite the source, which seems based on
    content to be some crazy right-wing sort. It's also absurdly off-topic
    for TO. The facts are mostly correct, except that Shokin had stopped investigating Burisma, and that was part of the U.S. complaint. The implications are both insulting and unwarranted.

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  • From Nando Ronteltap@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 20 16:50:39 2023
    Sure Shokin stopped investigating Burisma, that's probably a lie.

    All the mainstream media previously lied that Shokin was corrupt, for a case that was already over when Shokin became the top prosecutor. This I researched myself, with the dates. It is just so that the mainstream media are liars.

    And you can see by the way they write about it, that it is all lies. Nobody who is interested in the facts, writes like, this highly self-interested party said such and so, naming some Ukraine government official who is now taking money from the USA for
    war.


    Op vrijdag 21 juli 2023 om 01:30:46 UTC+2 schreef John Harshman:
    On 7/20/23 12:48 PM, Glenn wrote:
    "Biden has acknowledged that when he was vice president, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin. At the time, Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, and at the time, Hunter had a highly lucrative role on the board
    receiving thousands of dollars per month. The then-vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion of critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired."

    Anyone here?

    It's customary when quoting to cite the source, which seems based on
    content to be some crazy right-wing sort. It's also absurdly off-topic
    for TO. The facts are mostly correct, except that Shokin had stopped investigating Burisma, and that was part of the U.S. complaint. The implications are both insulting and unwarranted.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Abner on Fri Jul 21 00:47:20 2023
    Abner <abnerinfinity@gmail.com> wrote:
    Glenn wrote:
    Anyone here?

    You might want to look at alt.atheism to see what happens when off-topic posts start dominating a newsgroup; it's turned into a real cesspool. Hopefully talk.origins won't also be drowned in off-topic posts ...
    they've been happening a lot lately, unfortunately.

    Seems to be Glenn’s sole reason for posting it.

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  • From Glenn@21:1/5 to John Harshman on Thu Jul 20 22:45:05 2023
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 4:30:46 PM UTC-7, John Harshman wrote:
    On 7/20/23 12:48 PM, Glenn wrote:
    "Biden has acknowledged that when he was vice president, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin. At the time, Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, and at the time, Hunter had a highly lucrative role on the board
    receiving thousands of dollars per month. The then-vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion of critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired."

    Anyone here?

    It's customary when quoting to cite the source, which seems based on
    content to be some crazy right-wing sort. It's also absurdly off-topic
    for TO. The facts are mostly correct, except that Shokin had stopped investigating Burisma, and that was part of the U.S. complaint. The implications are both insulting and unwarranted.

    Really? Cite your source?

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  • From Martin Harran@21:1/5 to john.harshman@gmail.com on Fri Jul 21 10:25:54 2023
    On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 16:27:58 -0700, John Harshman
    <john.harshman@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/20/23 12:48 PM, Glenn wrote:
    "Biden has acknowledged that when he was vice president, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin. At the time, Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, and at the time, Hunter had a highly lucrative role on the board
    receiving thousands of dollars per month. The then-vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion of critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired."

    Anyone here?

    It's customary when quoting to cite the source,

    Who needs a cite? Trump said it's true so that should be enough for
    any right thinking person (pun intended).

    which seems based on
    content to be some crazy right-wing sort. It's also absurdly off-topic
    for TO. The facts are mostly correct, except that Shokin had stopped >investigating Burisma, and that was part of the U.S. complaint. The >implications are both insulting and unwarranted.

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  • From jillery@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 21 07:04:25 2023
    On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 22:45:05 -0700 (PDT), Glenn <GlennSheldon@msn.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 4:30:46?PM UTC-7, John Harshman wrote:
    On 7/20/23 12:48 PM, Glenn wrote:
    "Biden has acknowledged that when he was vice president, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin. At the time, Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, and at the time, Hunter had a highly lucrative role on the board
    receiving thousands of dollars per month. The then-vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion of critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired."

    Anyone here?

    It's customary when quoting to cite the source, which seems based on
    content to be some crazy right-wing sort. It's also absurdly off-topic
    for TO. The facts are mostly correct, except that Shokin had stopped
    investigating Burisma, and that was part of the U.S. complaint. The
    implications are both insulting and unwarranted.

    Really? Cite your source?


    Do you understand what "quote" means?

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    You're entitled to your own opinions.
    You're not entitled to your own facts.

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  • From Glenn@21:1/5 to jillery on Fri Jul 21 11:47:37 2023
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 4:05:47 AM UTC-7, jillery wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 22:45:05 -0700 (PDT), Glenn <GlennS...@msn.com>
    wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 4:30:46?PM UTC-7, John Harshman wrote:
    On 7/20/23 12:48 PM, Glenn wrote:
    "Biden has acknowledged that when he was vice president, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin. At the time, Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, and at the time, Hunter had a highly lucrative role on the board
    receiving thousands of dollars per month. The then-vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion of critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired."

    Anyone here?

    It's customary when quoting to cite the source, which seems based on
    content to be some crazy right-wing sort. It's also absurdly off-topic
    for TO. The facts are mostly correct, except that Shokin had stopped
    investigating Burisma, and that was part of the U.S. complaint. The
    implications are both insulting and unwarranted.

    Really? Cite your source?
    Do you understand what "quote" means?

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassley-releases-unclassified-fbi-form-containing-details-of-biden-criminal-bribery-scheme-with-burisma-ceo#

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  • From jillery@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 21 23:06:47 2023
    On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 11:47:37 -0700 (PDT), Glenn <GlennSheldon@msn.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 4:05:47?AM UTC-7, jillery wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 22:45:05 -0700 (PDT), Glenn <GlennS...@msn.com>
    wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 4:30:46?PM UTC-7, John Harshman wrote:
    On 7/20/23 12:48 PM, Glenn wrote:
    "Biden has acknowledged that when he was vice president, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin. At the time, Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, and at the time, Hunter had a highly lucrative role on the board
    receiving thousands of dollars per month. The then-vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion of critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired."

    Anyone here?

    It's customary when quoting to cite the source, which seems based on
    content to be some crazy right-wing sort. It's also absurdly off-topic >> >> for TO. The facts are mostly correct, except that Shokin had stopped
    investigating Burisma, and that was part of the U.S. complaint. The
    implications are both insulting and unwarranted.

    Really? Cite your source?
    Do you understand what "quote" means?
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassley-releases-unclassified-fbi-form-containing-details-of-biden-criminal-bribery-scheme-with-burisma-ceo#


    So that's a "no". Quelle surprise.

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  • From Glenn@21:1/5 to jillery on Fri Jul 21 23:33:13 2023
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 8:10:47 PM UTC-7, jillery wrote:
    On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 11:47:37 -0700 (PDT), Glenn <GlennS...@msn.com>
    wrote:
    On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 4:05:47?AM UTC-7, jillery wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 22:45:05 -0700 (PDT), Glenn <GlennS...@msn.com>
    wrote:
    On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 4:30:46?PM UTC-7, John Harshman wrote:
    On 7/20/23 12:48 PM, Glenn wrote:
    "Biden has acknowledged that when he was vice president, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin. At the time, Shokin was investigating Burisma Holdings, and at the time, Hunter had a highly lucrative role on the
    board receiving thousands of dollars per month. The then-vice president threatened to withhold $1 billion of critical U.S. aid if Shokin was not fired."

    Anyone here?

    It's customary when quoting to cite the source, which seems based on >> >> content to be some crazy right-wing sort. It's also absurdly off-topic >> >> for TO. The facts are mostly correct, except that Shokin had stopped >> >> investigating Burisma, and that was part of the U.S. complaint. The
    implications are both insulting and unwarranted.

    Really? Cite your source?
    Do you understand what "quote" means?
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassley-releases-unclassified-fbi-form-containing-details-of-biden-criminal-bribery-scheme-with-burisma-ceo#
    So that's a "no". Quelle surprise.
    --
    LMAO!

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