• Re: Florida Man Daniel Baker Found Guilty In State Capitol Plot

    From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Anthony Soprano on Sat Nov 20 00:43:27 2021
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    On 11/19/2021 10:10 PM, Anthony Soprano wrote:
    MIAMI.CBSLOCAL.COM
    Florida Man Daniel Baker Found Guilty In State Capitol Plot
    CBSMiami.com Team

    TALLAHASSEE (CBSMiami/NSF) – A Tallahassee man who was arrested in
    January for plotting to violently confront would-be protesters at the
    Florida Capitol was found guilty Thursday on federal charges.

    Daniel Baker, who made online posts about confronting supporters of
    former President Donald Trump during an expected protest at the state Capitol, was convicted on two counts of sending, in interstate
    commerce, a true threat to kidnap or injure.

    READ MORE: Bad Weather Can Mean Bad News For Miami Water & Sewer

    During a trial that lasted about two and a half days, Baker's defense
    argued that the series of social media posts that led to his arrest
    were "jokes." Federal prosecutors set out to prove that "inflammatory rhetoric" Baker posted online constituted a true threat.

    Ultimately, the 12-person jury returned a guilty verdict after roughly
    four hours of deliberation.

    The case centered largely on the content of a flyer that Baker posted
    to Facebook and other social media sites in January, issuing a "call
    to arms" for others to join him and "encircle terrorists who attack
    the Capitol" on President Joe Biden's inauguration day.

    The FBI had been aware of Baker's social media threats since October, according to court documents.

    The posts were made amid heightened security at the state Capitol,
    with Gov. Ron DeSantis mobilizing the Florida National Guard to assist
    state and local law enforcement. But the anticipated protest by Trump supporters never materialized.

    Repeatedly describing himself as a "leftist," Baker testified this
    week that he was attempting to "inspire the community to defend
    itself, to defend the (Florida) Capitol" and the country after Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

    "This is an armed COUP and can only be stopped by an armed community!
    If you're afraid to die fighting the enemy, stay in bed and live," the
    flyer said in part.

    Randolph Murrell, Baker's public defender, described Baker's posts as reckless and careless but argued that Baker thought what he was doing
    was legal and that he wasn't being serious.

    "A lot of these were jokes, a lot of these were clearly over the top," Murrell said in his closing argument.

    Baker, when questioned by Murrell while testifying, said his posts
    were "almost exclusively jokes," aimed at depicting an "ironic parody
    of a left-wing caricature."

    Baker testified that his posts were not aimed at threatening potential right-wing protesters because his Facebook profile was set to private
    and he was only communicating with other "leftists" who he had
    "screened."

    READ MORE: University Of Miami Law Students Help Exonerate Wrongfully Convicted Florida Man

    The defense also attempted to downplay prosecutors' argument that
    Baker was actively recruiting people to join him in taking up arms
    against would-be protesters,

    But the prosecution countered by arguing that a publicly viewable
    Facebook event that Baker created, titled "DEFEND TALLAHASSEE," could reasonably be seen as a threat.

    Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephen Kunz pointed to Baker's prior military training and knowledge of weapons in arguing that Baker "had a means
    to carry out his threats."

    Baker served in the military for roughly a year until 2007, before
    receiving an "other-than-honorable" discharge, according to
    information published by the U.S. Attorney's Office in January. After
    being discharged, Baker joined a group fighting in Syria against ISIS
    and the Turkish government.

    Prosecutors displayed social-media messages sent by Baker, in which he claimed to have killed 16 people during his time fighting in Syria.

    "I made that up. I was just talking big," Baker said when questioned
    about the claim.

    Murrell repeatedly cited Baker's small stature, at 5 feet, 3 inches
    tall and about 130 pounds, saying Baker suffered bullying growing up
    and that he "talks tough to offset his size disadvantage."

    But Assistant U.S. Attorney Lazaro Fields said Baker "knew exactly
    what he was doing because he knew his capabilities."

    Baker appeared to show no emotion following the guilty verdict
    Thursday. Murrell and friends of Baker who testified in his defense
    declined to comment on the verdict outside of the federal courthouse.

    U.S. District Judge Allen Winsor set a sentencing hearing for Baker on
    Aug. 16. Court officials said in January that Baker faced a maximum of
    five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

    When asked Thursday what penalty Baker could face following the trial, Murrell said he hadn't "figured that out yet."

    MORE NEWS: Online Threats Continue At South Florida Schools, Campaign
    Hopes To Make Students Think Twice Before Posting

    Copyright 2021 CBS Local Media. All rights reserved. This material may
    not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The News
    Service of Florida's Ryan Dailey contributed to this report.)


    If you rape my daughter I'll kill you. Threatening to defend people against crime
    is not crime. It's freedom of speech, and the people persecuting this man are guilty for perpetration under color of law. The government should walk softly and
    carry a big stick. It should not get away with such kinds of evil. The charges
    are crime in my mind, and always will be. The government's punishments will convince of nothing but that it is more guilty and criminal. Everything he said
    is semantics and you don't know what he said.

    Advocating crime is 100% legal if it is not imminent lawless action under the Brandenburg test. We demand this man receive $10,000 for every day incarcerated,
    and $1,000 for every day since the deceitful wrongful charges were filed. And the
    1st Amendment does not say except for threats, it says NO LAW!

    WE CONDEMN THE GOVERNMENT, WE CONDEMN THE COURTS, AND IF YOU COME HERE TO ARREST
    ME, YOU'RE COMING TO COMMIT PREMEDITATED MURDER WITH DELIBERATIVE AFORETHOUGHT, BECAUSE YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE! THAT IS A THREAT!

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  • From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Sat Nov 20 00:57:16 2021
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    On 11/20/2021 12:43 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    On 11/19/2021 10:10 PM, Anthony Soprano wrote:
    MIAMI.CBSLOCAL.COM
    Florida Man Daniel Baker Found Guilty In State Capitol Plot
    CBSMiami.com Team

    TALLAHASSEE (CBSMiami/NSF) – A Tallahassee man who was arrested in
    January for plotting to violently confront would-be protesters at the
    Florida Capitol was found guilty Thursday on federal charges.

    Daniel Baker, who made online posts about confronting supporters of
    former President Donald Trump during an expected protest at the state
    Capitol, was convicted on two counts of sending, in interstate
    commerce, a true threat to kidnap or injure.

    READ MORE: Bad Weather Can Mean Bad News For Miami Water & Sewer

    During a trial that lasted about two and a half days, Baker's defense
    argued that the series of social media posts that led to his arrest
    were "jokes." Federal prosecutors set out to prove that "inflammatory
    rhetoric" Baker posted online constituted a true threat.

    Ultimately, the 12-person jury returned a guilty verdict after roughly
    four hours of deliberation.

    The case centered largely on the content of a flyer that Baker posted
    to Facebook and other social media sites in January, issuing a "call
    to arms" for others to join him and "encircle terrorists who attack
    the Capitol" on President Joe Biden's inauguration day.

    The FBI had been aware of Baker's social media threats since October,
    according to court documents.

    The posts were made amid heightened security at the state Capitol,
    with Gov. Ron DeSantis mobilizing the Florida National Guard to assist
    state and local law enforcement. But the anticipated protest by Trump
    supporters never materialized.

    Repeatedly describing himself as a "leftist," Baker testified this
    week that he was attempting to "inspire the community to defend
    itself, to defend the (Florida) Capitol" and the country after Trump
    supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

    "This is an armed COUP and can only be stopped by an armed community!
    If you're afraid to die fighting the enemy, stay in bed and live," the
    flyer said in part.

    Randolph Murrell, Baker's public defender, described Baker's posts as
    reckless and careless but argued that Baker thought what he was doing
    was legal and that he wasn't being serious.

    "A lot of these were jokes, a lot of these were clearly over the top,"
    Murrell said in his closing argument.

    Baker, when questioned by Murrell while testifying, said his posts
    were "almost exclusively jokes," aimed at depicting an "ironic parody
    of a left-wing caricature."

    Baker testified that his posts were not aimed at threatening potential
    right-wing protesters because his Facebook profile was set to private
    and he was only communicating with other "leftists" who he had
    "screened."

    READ MORE: University Of Miami Law Students Help Exonerate Wrongfully
    Convicted Florida Man

    The defense also attempted to downplay prosecutors' argument that
    Baker was actively recruiting people to join him in taking up arms
    against would-be protesters,

    But the prosecution countered by arguing that a publicly viewable
    Facebook event that Baker created, titled "DEFEND TALLAHASSEE," could
    reasonably be seen as a threat.


    How is it we don't have a right to self-defense? This shit is so stupid!


    Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephen Kunz pointed to Baker's prior military
    training and knowledge of weapons in arguing that Baker "had a means
    to carry out his threats."

    Baker served in the military for roughly a year until 2007, before
    receiving an "other-than-honorable" discharge, according to
    information published by the U.S. Attorney's Office in January. After
    being discharged, Baker joined a group fighting in Syria against ISIS
    and the Turkish government.

    Prosecutors displayed social-media messages sent by Baker, in which he
    claimed to have killed 16 people during his time fighting in Syria.

    "I made that up. I was just talking big," Baker said when questioned
    about the claim.

    Murrell repeatedly cited Baker's small stature, at 5 feet, 3 inches
    tall and about 130 pounds, saying Baker suffered bullying growing up
    and that he "talks tough to offset his size disadvantage."

    But Assistant U.S. Attorney Lazaro Fields said Baker "knew exactly
    what he was doing because he knew his capabilities."

    Baker appeared to show no emotion following the guilty verdict
    Thursday. Murrell and friends of Baker who testified in his defense
    declined to comment on the verdict outside of the federal courthouse.

    U.S. District Judge Allen Winsor set a sentencing hearing for Baker on
    Aug. 16. Court officials said in January that Baker faced a maximum of
    five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

    When asked Thursday what penalty Baker could face following the trial,
    Murrell said he hadn't "figured that out yet."

    MORE NEWS: Online Threats Continue At South Florida Schools, Campaign
    Hopes To Make Students Think Twice Before Posting

    Copyright 2021 CBS Local Media. All rights reserved. This material may
    not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The News
    Service of Florida's Ryan Dailey contributed to this report.)


    If you rape my daughter I'll kill you. Threatening to defend people against crime
    is not crime. It's freedom of speech, and the people persecuting this man are
    guilty for perpetration under color of law. The government should walk softly and
    carry a big stick. It should not get away with such kinds of evil. The charges
    are crime in my mind, and always will be. The government's punishments will convince of nothing but that it is more guilty and criminal. Everything he said
    is semantics and you don't know what he said.

    Advocating crime is 100% legal if it is not imminent lawless action under the Brandenburg test. We demand this man receive $10,000 for every day incarcerated,
    and $1,000 for every day since the deceitful wrongful charges were filed. And the
    1st Amendment does not say except for threats, it says NO LAW!

    WE CONDEMN THE GOVERNMENT, WE CONDEMN THE COURTS, AND IF YOU COME HERE TO ARREST
    ME, YOU'RE COMING TO COMMIT PREMEDITATED MURDER WITH DELIBERATIVE AFORETHOUGHT,
    BECAUSE YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE! THAT IS A THREAT!



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  • From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Sat Nov 20 01:21:40 2021
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    On 11/20/2021 12:57 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    On 11/20/2021 12:43 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    On 11/19/2021 10:10 PM, Anthony Soprano wrote:
    MIAMI.CBSLOCAL.COM
    Florida Man Daniel Baker Found Guilty In State Capitol Plot
    CBSMiami.com Team

    TALLAHASSEE (CBSMiami/NSF) – A Tallahassee man who was arrested in
    January for plotting to violently confront would-be protesters at the
    Florida Capitol was found guilty Thursday on federal charges.

    Daniel Baker, who made online posts about confronting supporters of
    former President Donald Trump during an expected protest at the state
    Capitol, was convicted on two counts of sending, in interstate
    commerce, a true threat to kidnap or injure.

    READ MORE: Bad Weather Can Mean Bad News For Miami Water & Sewer

    During a trial that lasted about two and a half days, Baker's defense
    argued that the series of social media posts that led to his arrest
    were "jokes." Federal prosecutors set out to prove that "inflammatory
    rhetoric" Baker posted online constituted a true threat.

    Ultimately, the 12-person jury returned a guilty verdict after roughly
    four hours of deliberation.

    The case centered largely on the content of a flyer that Baker posted
    to Facebook and other social media sites in January, issuing a "call
    to arms" for others to join him and "encircle terrorists who attack
    the Capitol" on President Joe Biden's inauguration day.

    The FBI had been aware of Baker's social media threats since October,
    according to court documents.

    The posts were made amid heightened security at the state Capitol,
    with Gov. Ron DeSantis mobilizing the Florida National Guard to assist
    state and local law enforcement. But the anticipated protest by Trump
    supporters never materialized.

    Repeatedly describing himself as a "leftist," Baker testified this
    week that he was attempting to "inspire the community to defend
    itself, to defend the (Florida) Capitol" and the country after Trump
    supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

    "This is an armed COUP and can only be stopped by an armed community!
    If you're afraid to die fighting the enemy, stay in bed and live," the
    flyer said in part.

    Randolph Murrell, Baker's public defender, described Baker's posts as
    reckless and careless but argued that Baker thought what he was doing
    was legal and that he wasn't being serious.

    "A lot of these were jokes, a lot of these were clearly over the top,"
    Murrell said in his closing argument.

    Baker, when questioned by Murrell while testifying, said his posts
    were "almost exclusively jokes," aimed at depicting an "ironic parody
    of a left-wing caricature."

    Baker testified that his posts were not aimed at threatening potential
    right-wing protesters because his Facebook profile was set to private
    and he was only communicating with other "leftists" who he had
    "screened."

    READ MORE: University Of Miami Law Students Help Exonerate Wrongfully
    Convicted Florida Man

    The defense also attempted to downplay prosecutors' argument that
    Baker was actively recruiting people to join him in taking up arms
    against would-be protesters,

    But the prosecution countered by arguing that a publicly viewable
    Facebook event that Baker created, titled "DEFEND TALLAHASSEE," could
    reasonably be seen as a threat.


    How is it we don't have a right to self-defense? This shit is so stupid!


    Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephen Kunz pointed to Baker's prior military
    training and knowledge of weapons in arguing that Baker "had a means
    to carry out his threats."

    Baker served in the military for roughly a year until 2007, before
    receiving an "other-than-honorable" discharge, according to
    information published by the U.S. Attorney's Office in January. After
    being discharged, Baker joined a group fighting in Syria against ISIS
    and the Turkish government.

    Prosecutors displayed social-media messages sent by Baker, in which he
    claimed to have killed 16 people during his time fighting in Syria.

    "I made that up. I was just talking big," Baker said when questioned
    about the claim.

    Murrell repeatedly cited Baker's small stature, at 5 feet, 3 inches
    tall and about 130 pounds, saying Baker suffered bullying growing up
    and that he "talks tough to offset his size disadvantage."

    But Assistant U.S. Attorney Lazaro Fields said Baker "knew exactly
    what he was doing because he knew his capabilities."

    Baker appeared to show no emotion following the guilty verdict
    Thursday. Murrell and friends of Baker who testified in his defense
    declined to comment on the verdict outside of the federal courthouse.

    U.S. District Judge Allen Winsor set a sentencing hearing for Baker on
    Aug. 16. Court officials said in January that Baker faced a maximum of
    five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

    When asked Thursday what penalty Baker could face following the trial,
    Murrell said he hadn't "figured that out yet."

    MORE NEWS: Online Threats Continue At South Florida Schools, Campaign
    Hopes To Make Students Think Twice Before Posting

    Copyright 2021 CBS Local Media. All rights reserved. This material may
    not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The News
    Service of Florida's Ryan Dailey contributed to this report.)


    If you rape my daughter I'll kill you. Threatening to defend people against crime
    is not crime. It's freedom of speech, and the people persecuting this man are
    guilty for perpetration under color of law. The government should walk softly and
    carry a big stick. It should not get away with such kinds of evil. The charges
    are crime in my mind, and always will be. The government's punishments will >> convince of nothing but that it is more guilty and criminal. Everything he said
    is semantics and you don't know what he said.

    Advocating crime is 100% legal if it is not imminent lawless action under the
    Brandenburg test. We demand this man receive $10,000 for every day incarcerated,
    and $1,000 for every day since the deceitful wrongful charges were filed. And the
    1st Amendment does not say except for threats, it says NO LAW!

    WE CONDEMN THE GOVERNMENT, WE CONDEMN THE COURTS, AND IF YOU COME HERE TO ARREST
    ME, YOU'RE COMING TO COMMIT PREMEDITATED MURDER WITH DELIBERATIVE AFORETHOUGHT,
    BECAUSE YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE! THAT IS A THREAT!



    I WENT TO PRISON FOR A THREAT! WHAT I SAID WAS: IF YOU RAPE MY DAUGHTER I'LL KILL
    YOU!!!!!!!!
    AND YOU'LL DIE!!!!!!!!!!

    Like there's a point? Like it matters if we're right or wrong? Do we have ultimate power or are we powerless? Wrongful condemnation is what it is!

    Like the drug war!

    FUCK THEM!

    MURDERERS!!

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  • From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Sat Nov 20 01:37:34 2021
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    On 11/20/2021 1:21 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    On 11/20/2021 12:57 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    On 11/20/2021 12:43 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    On 11/19/2021 10:10 PM, Anthony Soprano wrote:
    MIAMI.CBSLOCAL.COM
    Florida Man Daniel Baker Found Guilty In State Capitol Plot
    CBSMiami.com Team

    TALLAHASSEE (CBSMiami/NSF) – A Tallahassee man who was arrested in
    January for plotting to violently confront would-be protesters at the
    Florida Capitol was found guilty Thursday on federal charges.

    Daniel Baker, who made online posts about confronting supporters of
    former President Donald Trump during an expected protest at the state
    Capitol, was convicted on two counts of sending, in interstate
    commerce, a true threat to kidnap or injure.

    READ MORE: Bad Weather Can Mean Bad News For Miami Water & Sewer

    During a trial that lasted about two and a half days, Baker's defense
    argued that the series of social media posts that led to his arrest
    were "jokes." Federal prosecutors set out to prove that "inflammatory
    rhetoric" Baker posted online constituted a true threat.

    Ultimately, the 12-person jury returned a guilty verdict after roughly >>>> four hours of deliberation.

    The case centered largely on the content of a flyer that Baker posted
    to Facebook and other social media sites in January, issuing a "call
    to arms" for others to join him and "encircle terrorists who attack
    the Capitol" on President Joe Biden's inauguration day.

    The FBI had been aware of Baker's social media threats since October,
    according to court documents.

    The posts were made amid heightened security at the state Capitol,
    with Gov. Ron DeSantis mobilizing the Florida National Guard to assist >>>> state and local law enforcement. But the anticipated protest by Trump
    supporters never materialized.

    Repeatedly describing himself as a "leftist," Baker testified this
    week that he was attempting to "inspire the community to defend
    itself, to defend the (Florida) Capitol" and the country after Trump
    supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

    "This is an armed COUP and can only be stopped by an armed community!
    If you're afraid to die fighting the enemy, stay in bed and live," the >>>> flyer said in part.

    Randolph Murrell, Baker's public defender, described Baker's posts as
    reckless and careless but argued that Baker thought what he was doing
    was legal and that he wasn't being serious.

    "A lot of these were jokes, a lot of these were clearly over the top," >>>> Murrell said in his closing argument.

    Baker, when questioned by Murrell while testifying, said his posts
    were "almost exclusively jokes," aimed at depicting an "ironic parody
    of a left-wing caricature."

    Baker testified that his posts were not aimed at threatening potential >>>> right-wing protesters because his Facebook profile was set to private
    and he was only communicating with other "leftists" who he had
    "screened."

    READ MORE: University Of Miami Law Students Help Exonerate Wrongfully
    Convicted Florida Man

    The defense also attempted to downplay prosecutors' argument that
    Baker was actively recruiting people to join him in taking up arms
    against would-be protesters,

    But the prosecution countered by arguing that a publicly viewable
    Facebook event that Baker created, titled "DEFEND TALLAHASSEE," could
    reasonably be seen as a threat.


    How is it we don't have a right to self-defense? This shit is so stupid!


    Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephen Kunz pointed to Baker's prior military >>>> training and knowledge of weapons in arguing that Baker "had a means
    to carry out his threats."

    Baker served in the military for roughly a year until 2007, before
    receiving an "other-than-honorable" discharge, according to
    information published by the U.S. Attorney's Office in January. After
    being discharged, Baker joined a group fighting in Syria against ISIS
    and the Turkish government.

    Prosecutors displayed social-media messages sent by Baker, in which he >>>> claimed to have killed 16 people during his time fighting in Syria.

    "I made that up. I was just talking big," Baker said when questioned
    about the claim.

    Murrell repeatedly cited Baker's small stature, at 5 feet, 3 inches
    tall and about 130 pounds, saying Baker suffered bullying growing up
    and that he "talks tough to offset his size disadvantage."

    But Assistant U.S. Attorney Lazaro Fields said Baker "knew exactly
    what he was doing because he knew his capabilities."

    Baker appeared to show no emotion following the guilty verdict
    Thursday. Murrell and friends of Baker who testified in his defense
    declined to comment on the verdict outside of the federal courthouse.

    U.S. District Judge Allen Winsor set a sentencing hearing for Baker on >>>> Aug. 16. Court officials said in January that Baker faced a maximum of >>>> five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

    When asked Thursday what penalty Baker could face following the trial, >>>> Murrell said he hadn't "figured that out yet."

    MORE NEWS: Online Threats Continue At South Florida Schools, Campaign
    Hopes To Make Students Think Twice Before Posting

    Copyright 2021 CBS Local Media. All rights reserved. This material may >>>> not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The News
    Service of Florida's Ryan Dailey contributed to this report.)


    If you rape my daughter I'll kill you. Threatening to defend people against crime
    is not crime. It's freedom of speech, and the people persecuting this man are
    guilty for perpetration under color of law. The government should walk softly and
    carry a big stick. It should not get away with such kinds of evil. The charges
    are crime in my mind, and always will be. The government's punishments will
    convince of nothing but that it is more guilty and criminal. Everything he said
    is semantics and you don't know what he said.

    Advocating crime is 100% legal if it is not imminent lawless action under the
    Brandenburg test. We demand this man receive $10,000 for every day incarcerated,
    and $1,000 for every day since the deceitful wrongful charges were filed. And the
    1st Amendment does not say except for threats, it says NO LAW!

    WE CONDEMN THE GOVERNMENT, WE CONDEMN THE COURTS, AND IF YOU COME HERE TO ARREST
    ME, YOU'RE COMING TO COMMIT PREMEDITATED MURDER WITH DELIBERATIVE AFORETHOUGHT,
    BECAUSE YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE! THAT IS A THREAT!



    I WENT TO PRISON FOR A THREAT! WHAT I SAID WAS: IF YOU RAPE MY DAUGHTER I'LL KILL
    YOU!!!!!!!!
    AND YOU'LL DIE!!!!!!!!!!

    Like there's a point? Like it matters if we're right or wrong? Do we have ultimate power or are we powerless? Wrongful condemnation is what it is!

    Like the drug war!

    FUCK THEM!

    MURDERERS!!



    So don't you people condemn murderers and demand justice?

    Or you have no notion?

    And you're saying we can't talk about violence against them if they won't bring the government to justice huh? Like they have any legitimacy at all??

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