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On 10/11/2020 8:19 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:

There is no ghost, nor brain, in the human fetus for the first 14 weeks. It is
thus immoral to not abort in the first 14 weeks.

Let us pay any doctor who performs an early term abortion, $1,000 Federal dollars,
so that any woman can just walk in and get an abortion for free, no other insurance needed.

Normal gestation is 40 weeks, giving the fetus 26 weeks, or 6 months to develop,
under this plan. People have memories of the womb five months before birth; it
should thus be considered as if a real baby would die if aborted, after the first
3-4 months. These same people, have memories of the afterlife before being in the
womb. There is life after death, and there is life before life. You didn't come
out of a zygote.

If an adult has a right to separate their accidentally connected body from another
adult, if the other shall die, is how the question should be looked at, in the
second trimester on, though the ghost enters the fetus at various times subsequent
to the first trimester, and in some cases, not until the moment of birth. You
must presume somebody may die after the first trimester, because somebody may.

Anti-abortion has been winning, and there are half as many abortions now, 700,000
per year, as in the 1990's, 1,400,000 per year, and overpopulation is the scourge
of our nation!

There are 1.5 million unplanned children, born every year in America. That is 15
million people per decade, and 60 million people in 40 years. In the 13 years of
K-12, that is 19.5 million people x $12,000 per pupil for K-12 = $234,000,000,000
per year. In 5 years, that's over $1 Trillion extra spent. In a decade, $2 Trillion, in 5 decades, $10 Trillion dollars. On K-12 alone.

It's far cheaper to abort. Let us pay $1,000 Federal dollars, to any doctor who
performs an early term abortion, so that any woman can just walk in and get an
abortion for free, no other insurance needed. There are 2.5 million unplanned
pregnancies per year (not counting nearly 1 million miscarriages), and $1,000 x
2.5 Million = $2.5 Billion per year.

Any sane civilization begins with population planning (and sanitation).

90% of all abortions take place in the first three months, presently, anyway.

There is life after death, and there is life before life. You didn't come out of
a zygote. Let us abort sanely, in the first trimester, before the fetus is a living baby, and make the world a better place.

After the first trimester, you must presume somebody is going to die, because the
fetus may be a living baby, and somebody may die. If an adult was accidentally
attached to you, and would die if you did not let them eat your body for six months, would you let them live?

If two men are accidentally attached, and one will die, if detached, does that one
have the right to eat the other's body for six months before the second detaches
himself from the other? Even if so, abortion should still be looked at this way,
because both individuals are living people, and one will die, and should not be
considered a dead corpse before detachment, thus influencing the second's decision, even if they have a right to do so. Would you jump into an icy cold
river to save a drowning baby, if you knew you might die? Is a similar question,
and letting someone eat your body for six months is onerous, and there's no reason
to presume the mother cares about this stranger baby who is a fetus.

If an adult was accidentally attached to you, and would die, if you did not let
them eat your body, for six months, would you let them live? Appears to be what
the political/legal/moral question comes to. And one might let that person live,
even if they believed in their right to not do so.

But if they thought it was a dead body attached to them, obviously they'd just
abort. But that's not what a baby should be considered after the first trimester,
because it may very well be a living baby. Thus if it's just a dead body attached
to them in the first trimester, and science says there is no brain, and reincarnation memories suggest there is no ghost, then it is immoral not to abort
if you don't want a baby. Just as, reckless unsafe sex is immoral, but we do not
condemn a mother after the fact.

Bump

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