• abortion

    From Intelligent Party@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 21 23:45:32 2021
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    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    abortion

    90% of abortions take place in the first three months - 13 weeks: https://i.ibb.co/7rQhqTD/US-abortion-by-gestational-2016.jpg .

    99.99% in the first 20 weeks or 4.6 months.
    Abortions after 20 weeks are generally only done in extenuating circumstances.

    So 90% take place in the first trimester or 13 weeks, and 10% more take place in
    the next 7 weeks, or first half of the second trimester.


    The first two trimesters account for 26 weeks. Normal gestation is 40 weeks, or 9
    months plus 1 week.


    If there is a ghost in the fetus after four months, it is like two adults attached.

    If there's NOT a ghost in the fetus, it's immoral to NOT abort, if you DON'T want
    a baby.

    There's life after death, and there's life before life. You didn't come out of a
    zygote. God is light, and within, and One with you. There's ghosts between lifetimes. Most of the time, ghosts don't hang around the living. There's no brain in the first three months. The average abortion costs $300-$800. We could
    pay doctors double in order to encourage them to abort. The total cost is less than $2 Billion; $1,000 x 2,000,000 abortions. With savings on K-12 of 12x$12,000x1.5million = $216 Billion per year. Overpopulation is screwing the planet. We can have a happier world. Stop having children for the children. At
    least unplanned ones. Unplanned childbirth is the scourge of nations. Every sane
    civilization starts with population planning, among these several things.

    Use two or more disparate types of birth control concurrently or you will get pregnant.

    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to abortion be 100%
    fully recognized. Parental consent laws place an "undue burden," on a minor's ability to get an abortion, as a minor has to inform some people who may be at war
    with her. Guardian-Ward = Warden-Ward = Abuser-Abused. I say we're all fraternal
    twins in my household, and we're all each other's children. Yet we're not children. People are meant to be brought up and not belittled. Subjugation of people is hysterical. And there is no punishment. Good kids don't need punishment, and bad kids don't benefit from it. Intelligence and Truth are the head of every individual. Didn't you read Isaiah? "A child shall lead them?" https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+11%3A6-10&version=NKJV

    Parental consent laws are pure illegal and pure evil. Every person has an equal
    right to an abortion, regardless of age, on this planet. Ageism is a crime. In
    the case of parental consent laws, abortion Ageism, is a capital crime. This is
    murder. People have rights, and imposing one's subjective values onto others is
    objectively wrong and immoral. Even if they're your "children." This is done by
    the power of the sword and is crime. And "children" do have a right to privacy.

    Anti-abortion has been winning, and the number of abortions per year, has declined
    by half, from over one million per year, to 626,000.

    90% of abortions take place in the first three months - 13 weeks: https://i.ibb.co/7rQhqTD/US-abortion-by-gestational-2016.jpg .

    99.99% in the first 20 weeks or 4.6 months.
    Abortions after 20 weeks are generally only done in extenuating circumstances.

    So 90% take place in the first trimester or 13 weeks, and 10% more take place in
    the next 7 weeks, or first half of the second trimester.

    Anti-abortion, is thus basically so much malarkey, it is as dumb as the flag burning Amendment. And Marky Mark burned the flag; and it's wasn't hate speech:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2q_b5rhvo

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  • From meercox@21:1/5 to Intelligent Party on Sat May 22 16:23:07 2021
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    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to
    abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters.

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 22 21:17:59 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to
    abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters.

    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe
    medical procedure?

    --
    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    There are four despicable occupations:
    Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
    Pimps
    Priests
    Reporters

    But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

    National Socialist American Worker's Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
    and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
    Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
    including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
    Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
    Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

    Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

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  • From meercox@21:1/5 to Attila on Sun May 23 11:05:06 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to
    abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters.

    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe
    medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical procedure"?

    Are you a nazi?

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 23 16:27:43 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to
    abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters.

    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe
    medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical procedure"?

    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are
    totally different subjects.


    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German and I was not old enough to be anything
    politically when the Nazi political structure was destroyed.

    --
    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    There are four despicable occupations:
    Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
    Pimps
    Priests
    Reporters

    But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

    National Socialist American Worker's Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
    and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
    Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
    including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
    Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
    Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

    Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

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  • From meercox@21:1/5 to Attila on Mon May 24 11:13:54 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On 5/23/2021 2:27 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to
    abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters.

    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe
    medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical procedure"?

    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are
    totally different subjects.

    IDIOTA!!!

    https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5f01266525c76ea4ac2f27c6e6ad744a-620x287.jpg

    https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor-describes-how-post-birth-abortion-would-proceed

    NBC Washington’s Julie Carey asked Northam whether he supported a bill proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran (D), which would allow
    abortions--up to the moment of birth.

    In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be “kept comfortable” and then “resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired” – the implication being that the baby could be left to
    die if the family decided they did not want to keep their child.

    “In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you
    exactly what would happen,” Northam said. “The infant would be
    delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then
    a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”


    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German

    THEN STOP ACTING LIKE ONE, ASSHOLE!

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  • From meercox@21:1/5 to Attila on Mon May 24 12:01:45 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On 5/24/2021 11:36 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 11:13:54 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gmsi$282j$8@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/23/2021 2:27 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to >>>>>>> abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters. >>>>>
    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe
    medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical procedure"?

    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are
    totally different subjects.

    IDIOTA!!!

    https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5f01266525c76ea4ac2f27c6e6ad744a-620x287.jpg

    https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor-describes-how-post-birth-abortion-would-proceed

    NBC Washington’s Julie Carey asked Northam whether he supported a bill
    proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran (D), which would allow
    abortions--up to the moment of birth.

    In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be “kept
    comfortable” and then “resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the >> family desired” – the implication being that the baby could be left to >> die if the family decided they did not want to keep their child.

    “In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you
    exactly what would happen,” Northam said. “The infant would be
    delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be
    resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then
    a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

    Why should the woman be forced against her will to undergo a
    process that could endanger her health and very life while
    there is a simple safe medical procedure to prevent that?

    Giving birth does NOT "endanger her health and very life..."

    You baby-killing ignoranus!



    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German

    THEN STOP ACTING LIKE ONE, ASSHOLE!

    Do you even know what a Nazi was,

    Do you need a Zyklon lung enema, babykiller?

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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 24 13:36:20 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On Mon, 24 May 2021 11:13:54 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gmsi$282j$8@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/23/2021 2:27 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to
    abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters. >>>>
    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe
    medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical procedure"?

    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are
    totally different subjects.

    IDIOTA!!!

    https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5f01266525c76ea4ac2f27c6e6ad744a-620x287.jpg

    https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor-describes-how-post-birth-abortion-would-proceed

    NBC Washingtons Julie Carey asked Northam whether he supported a bill >proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran (D), which would allow
    abortions--up to the moment of birth.

    In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be kept
    comfortable and then resuscitated if thats what the mother and the
    family desired the implication being that the baby could be left to
    die if the family decided they did not want to keep their child.

    In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you
    exactly what would happen, Northam said. The infant would be
    delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be >resuscitated if thats what the mother and the family desired, and then
    a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.

    Why should the woman be forced against her will to undergo a
    process that could endanger her health and very life while
    there is a simple safe medical procedure to prevent that?



    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German

    THEN STOP ACTING LIKE ONE, ASSHOLE!

    Do you even know what a Nazi was, aside from being a popular
    buzzword?

    --
    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    There are four despicable occupations:
    Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
    Pimps
    Priests
    Reporters

    But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

    National Socialist American Worker's Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
    and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
    Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
    including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
    Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
    Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

    Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Attila@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 24 17:17:26 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On Mon, 24 May 2021 12:01:45 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gpm9$1dgk$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 11:36 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 11:13:54 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gmsi$282j$8@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/23/2021 2:27 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to >>>>>>>> abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters. >>>>>>
    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe
    medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical procedure"?

    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are
    totally different subjects.

    IDIOTA!!!

    https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5f01266525c76ea4ac2f27c6e6ad744a-620x287.jpg

    https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor-describes-how-post-birth-abortion-would-proceed

    NBC Washingtons Julie Carey asked Northam whether he supported a bill
    proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran (D), which would allow
    abortions--up to the moment of birth.

    In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be kept
    comfortable and then resuscitated if thats what the mother and the
    family desired the implication being that the baby could be left to
    die if the family decided they did not want to keep their child.

    In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you
    exactly what would happen, Northam said. The infant would be
    delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be
    resuscitated if thats what the mother and the family desired, and then
    a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.

    Why should the woman be forced against her will to undergo a
    process that could endanger her health and very life while
    there is a simple safe medical procedure to prevent that?

    Giving birth does NOT "endanger her health and very life..."

    You baby-killing ignoranus!

    http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

    : The dangers involved with pregnancy include but are not limited to:
    :
    : Death
    : Abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    : Pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged
    : former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers,
    : associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and
    : reduced quality of life)
    : Scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    : Increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    : Loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Embolism
    :
    : Temporary adverse effects
    :
    : Exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    : altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    : Nausea and vomiting
    : Dizziness and light-headedness
    : Bloating and attendant discomfort
    : Hemmorhoids
    : Cramps
    : Acne and mild skin disorders
    : Skin discoloration, particularly face and abdomen
    : Mild to severe backache and strain
    : Increased headaches
    : Difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    : Increased urination and incontinence
    : Breast pain and discharge
    : Swelling of joints, and attendant discomfort or pain
    : Difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
    : Inability to take regular medications
    : Shortness of breath
    : Higher blood pressure
    : Hair loss
    : Tendency to anemia
    : Infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
    : (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant
    : women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
    : Curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities
    : Hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
    : Extreme pain on delivery
    : Continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period, exacerbated if
    : c-section (major surgery) is required, sometimes taking up to a full
    : year to fully recover
    :
    : Occasional complications and side effects
    :
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Severe scarring requiring later surgery, esp. after additional
    : pregnancies
    : Dropped uterus, esp. with additional pregnancies
    : Pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of
    : pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of
    : pregnancies)
    : Eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of
    : death)
    : Gestational diabetes
    : Placenta previa
    : Anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    : Thrombocytopenic purpura
    : Severe cramping
    : Embolism (blood clots)
    : Medical disability requiring full bed rest, frequently ordered during
    : part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of
    : either mother or baby
    : Torn abdominal muscles
    : Mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    : Serious infection and disease, e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis
    : Hormonal imbalance
    : Ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    : Broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
    : Hemorrhage
    : Refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    : Aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions, e.g. epilepsy is
    : present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug
    : metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the
    : number and frequency of seizures
    : Severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    :
    : Some less common (and serious) complications
    :
    : Peripartum cardiomyopathy
    : Cardiopulmonary arrest
    : Magnesium toxicity
    : Severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    : Massive embolism
    : increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    : Molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a
    : pregnancy-induced cancer)
    : Malignant arrhythmia
    : Circulatory collapse
    : Placental abruption
    :
    :
    :
    Every day in 2017, approximately 810 women died from
    preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mortality




    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German

    THEN STOP ACTING LIKE ONE, ASSHOLE!

    Do you even know what a Nazi was,

    Do you need a Zyklon lung enema, babykiller?

    Not an answer but I didn't expect one.

    I have never killed a baby.

    --
    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    There are four despicable occupations:
    Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
    Pimps
    Priests
    Reporters

    But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

    National Socialist American Worker's Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
    and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
    Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
    including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
    Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
    Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

    Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From meercox@21:1/5 to Attila on Tue May 25 12:21:02 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On 5/24/2021 3:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 12:01:45 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gpm9$1dgk$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 11:36 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 11:13:54 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gmsi$282j$8@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/23/2021 2:27 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to >>>>>>>>> abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters. >>>>>>>
    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe
    medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical procedure"?

    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are
    totally different subjects.

    IDIOTA!!!

    https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5f01266525c76ea4ac2f27c6e6ad744a-620x287.jpg

    https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor-describes-how-post-birth-abortion-would-proceed

    NBC Washington’s Julie Carey asked Northam whether he supported a bill >>>> proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran (D), which would allow
    abortions--up to the moment of birth.

    In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be “kept
    comfortable” and then “resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the
    family desired” – the implication being that the baby could be left to >>>> die if the family decided they did not want to keep their child.

    “In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you >>>> exactly what would happen,” Northam said. “The infant would be
    delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be
    resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then >>>> a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

    Why should the woman be forced against her will to undergo a
    process that could endanger her health and very life while
    there is a simple safe medical procedure to prevent that?

    Giving birth does NOT "endanger her health and very life..."

    You baby-killing ignoranus!

    http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

    : The dangers involved with pregnancy include but are not limited to:
    :
    : Death
    : Abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    : Pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged
    : former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers,
    : associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and
    : reduced quality of life)
    : Scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    : Increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    : Loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Embolism
    :
    : Temporary adverse effects
    :
    : Exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    : altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    : Nausea and vomiting
    : Dizziness and light-headedness
    : Bloating and attendant discomfort
    : Hemmorhoids
    : Cramps
    : Acne and mild skin disorders
    : Skin discoloration, particularly face and abdomen
    : Mild to severe backache and strain
    : Increased headaches
    : Difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    : Increased urination and incontinence
    : Breast pain and discharge
    : Swelling of joints, and attendant discomfort or pain
    : Difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
    : Inability to take regular medications
    : Shortness of breath
    : Higher blood pressure
    : Hair loss
    : Tendency to anemia
    : Infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
    : (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant
    : women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
    : Curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities
    : Hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
    : Extreme pain on delivery
    : Continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period, exacerbated if
    : c-section (major surgery) is required, sometimes taking up to a full
    : year to fully recover
    :
    : Occasional complications and side effects
    :
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Severe scarring requiring later surgery, esp. after additional
    : pregnancies
    : Dropped uterus, esp. with additional pregnancies
    : Pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of
    : pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of
    : pregnancies)
    : Eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of
    : death)
    : Gestational diabetes
    : Placenta previa
    : Anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    : Thrombocytopenic purpura
    : Severe cramping
    : Embolism (blood clots)
    : Medical disability requiring full bed rest, frequently ordered during
    : part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of
    : either mother or baby
    : Torn abdominal muscles
    : Mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    : Serious infection and disease, e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis
    : Hormonal imbalance
    : Ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    : Broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
    : Hemorrhage
    : Refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    : Aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions, e.g. epilepsy is
    : present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug
    : metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the
    : number and frequency of seizures
    : Severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    :
    : Some less common (and serious) complications
    :
    : Peripartum cardiomyopathy
    : Cardiopulmonary arrest
    : Magnesium toxicity
    : Severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    : Massive embolism
    : increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    : Molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a
    : pregnancy-induced cancer)
    : Malignant arrhythmia
    : Circulatory collapse
    : Placental abruption
    :
    :
    :
    Every day in 2017, approximately 810 women died from
    preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mortality

    Which is not even relevant to Northam's talk and kill program.




    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German

    THEN STOP ACTING LIKE ONE, ASSHOLE!

    Do you even know what a Nazi was,

    Do you need a Zyklon lung enema, babykiller?

    Not an answer but I didn't expect one.

    I have never killed a baby.


    By your definition...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 25 14:44:37 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On Tue, 25 May 2021 12:21:02 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jf6d$6e6$5@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 3:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 12:01:45 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gpm9$1dgk$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 11:36 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 11:13:54 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gmsi$282j$8@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/23/2021 2:27 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to >>>>>>>>>> abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters. >>>>>>>>
    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe
    medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical procedure"?

    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are
    totally different subjects.

    IDIOTA!!!

    https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5f01266525c76ea4ac2f27c6e6ad744a-620x287.jpg

    https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor-describes-how-post-birth-abortion-would-proceed

    NBC Washingtons Julie Carey asked Northam whether he supported a bill >>>>> proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran (D), which would allow
    abortions--up to the moment of birth.

    In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be kept
    comfortable and then resuscitated if thats what the mother and the >>>>> family desired the implication being that the baby could be left to >>>>> die if the family decided they did not want to keep their child.

    In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you >>>>> exactly what would happen, Northam said. The infant would be
    delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be >>>>> resuscitated if thats what the mother and the family desired, and then >>>>> a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.

    Why should the woman be forced against her will to undergo a
    process that could endanger her health and very life while
    there is a simple safe medical procedure to prevent that?

    Giving birth does NOT "endanger her health and very life..."

    You baby-killing ignoranus!

    http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

    : The dangers involved with pregnancy include but are not limited to:
    :
    : Death
    : Abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    : Pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged
    : former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers,
    : associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and
    : reduced quality of life)
    : Scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    : Increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    : Loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Embolism
    :
    : Temporary adverse effects
    :
    : Exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    : altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    : Nausea and vomiting
    : Dizziness and light-headedness
    : Bloating and attendant discomfort
    : Hemmorhoids
    : Cramps
    : Acne and mild skin disorders
    : Skin discoloration, particularly face and abdomen
    : Mild to severe backache and strain
    : Increased headaches
    : Difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    : Increased urination and incontinence
    : Breast pain and discharge
    : Swelling of joints, and attendant discomfort or pain
    : Difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
    : Inability to take regular medications
    : Shortness of breath
    : Higher blood pressure
    : Hair loss
    : Tendency to anemia
    : Infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
    : (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant
    : women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
    : Curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities
    : Hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
    : Extreme pain on delivery
    : Continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period, exacerbated if
    : c-section (major surgery) is required, sometimes taking up to a full
    : year to fully recover
    :
    : Occasional complications and side effects
    :
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Severe scarring requiring later surgery, esp. after additional
    : pregnancies
    : Dropped uterus, esp. with additional pregnancies
    : Pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of
    : pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of
    : pregnancies)
    : Eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of
    : death)
    : Gestational diabetes
    : Placenta previa
    : Anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    : Thrombocytopenic purpura
    : Severe cramping
    : Embolism (blood clots)
    : Medical disability requiring full bed rest, frequently ordered during
    : part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of
    : either mother or baby
    : Torn abdominal muscles
    : Mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    : Serious infection and disease, e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis
    : Hormonal imbalance
    : Ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    : Broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
    : Hemorrhage
    : Refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    : Aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions, e.g. epilepsy is
    : present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug
    : metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the
    : number and frequency of seizures
    : Severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    :
    : Some less common (and serious) complications
    :
    : Peripartum cardiomyopathy
    : Cardiopulmonary arrest
    : Magnesium toxicity
    : Severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    : Massive embolism
    : increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    : Molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a
    : pregnancy-induced cancer)
    : Malignant arrhythmia
    : Circulatory collapse
    : Placental abruption
    :
    :
    :
    Every day in 2017, approximately 810 women died from
    preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mortality

    Which is not even relevant to Northam's talk and kill program.

    It is relevant to any politically base program to limit the
    freedom of choice.





    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German

    THEN STOP ACTING LIKE ONE, ASSHOLE!

    Do you even know what a Nazi was,

    Do you need a Zyklon lung enema, babykiller?

    Not an answer but I didn't expect one.

    I have never killed a baby.


    By your definition...

    By anyone's definition.

    --
    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    There are four despicable occupations:
    Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
    Pimps
    Priests
    Reporters

    But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

    National Socialist American Worker's Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
    and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
    Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
    including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
    Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
    Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

    Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From meercox@21:1/5 to Attila on Tue May 25 15:31:16 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On 5/25/2021 12:44 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 25 May 2021 12:21:02 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jf6d$6e6$5@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 3:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 12:01:45 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gpm9$1dgk$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 11:36 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 11:13:54 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gmsi$282j$8@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/23/2021 2:27 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in >>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to >>>>>>>>>>> abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters.

    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe
    medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical procedure"?

    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are
    totally different subjects.

    IDIOTA!!!

    https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5f01266525c76ea4ac2f27c6e6ad744a-620x287.jpg

    https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor-describes-how-post-birth-abortion-would-proceed

    NBC Washington’s Julie Carey asked Northam whether he supported a bill >>>>>> proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran (D), which would allow
    abortions--up to the moment of birth.

    In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be “kept
    comfortable” and then “resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the
    family desired” – the implication being that the baby could be left to
    die if the family decided they did not want to keep their child.

    “In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you >>>>>> exactly what would happen,” Northam said. “The infant would be >>>>>> delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be >>>>>> resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then
    a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

    Why should the woman be forced against her will to undergo a
    process that could endanger her health and very life while
    there is a simple safe medical procedure to prevent that?

    Giving birth does NOT "endanger her health and very life..."

    You baby-killing ignoranus!

    http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

    : The dangers involved with pregnancy include but are not limited to:
    :
    : Death
    : Abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    : Pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged
    : former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers,
    : associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and
    : reduced quality of life)
    : Scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    : Increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    : Loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Embolism
    :
    : Temporary adverse effects
    :
    : Exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    : altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    : Nausea and vomiting
    : Dizziness and light-headedness
    : Bloating and attendant discomfort
    : Hemmorhoids
    : Cramps
    : Acne and mild skin disorders
    : Skin discoloration, particularly face and abdomen
    : Mild to severe backache and strain
    : Increased headaches
    : Difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    : Increased urination and incontinence
    : Breast pain and discharge
    : Swelling of joints, and attendant discomfort or pain
    : Difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
    : Inability to take regular medications
    : Shortness of breath
    : Higher blood pressure
    : Hair loss
    : Tendency to anemia
    : Infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
    : (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant
    : women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
    : Curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities
    : Hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
    : Extreme pain on delivery
    : Continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period, exacerbated if
    : c-section (major surgery) is required, sometimes taking up to a full
    : year to fully recover
    :
    : Occasional complications and side effects
    :
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Severe scarring requiring later surgery, esp. after additional
    : pregnancies
    : Dropped uterus, esp. with additional pregnancies
    : Pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of >>> : pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of
    : pregnancies)
    : Eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of
    : death)
    : Gestational diabetes
    : Placenta previa
    : Anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    : Thrombocytopenic purpura
    : Severe cramping
    : Embolism (blood clots)
    : Medical disability requiring full bed rest, frequently ordered during
    : part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of
    : either mother or baby
    : Torn abdominal muscles
    : Mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    : Serious infection and disease, e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis
    : Hormonal imbalance
    : Ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    : Broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
    : Hemorrhage
    : Refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    : Aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions, e.g. epilepsy is >>> : present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug
    : metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the
    : number and frequency of seizures
    : Severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    :
    : Some less common (and serious) complications
    :
    : Peripartum cardiomyopathy
    : Cardiopulmonary arrest
    : Magnesium toxicity
    : Severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    : Massive embolism
    : increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    : Molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a
    : pregnancy-induced cancer)
    : Malignant arrhythmia
    : Circulatory collapse
    : Placental abruption
    :
    :
    :
    Every day in 2017, approximately 810 women died from
    preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mortality

    Which is not even relevant to Northam's talk and kill program.

    It is relevant to any politically base program to limit the
    freedom of choice.

    Murder =/ "choice".





    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German

    THEN STOP ACTING LIKE ONE, ASSHOLE!

    Do you even know what a Nazi was,

    Do you need a Zyklon lung enema, babykiller?

    Not an answer but I didn't expect one.

    I have never killed a baby.


    By your definition...

    By anyone's definition.

    Not Ralph Northam's.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 25 21:12:03 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On Tue, 25 May 2021 15:31:16 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jqb3$2u23$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/25/2021 12:44 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 25 May 2021 12:21:02 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jf6d$6e6$5@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 3:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 12:01:45 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gpm9$1dgk$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 11:36 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 11:13:54 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gmsi$282j$8@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/23/2021 2:27 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in >>>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to >>>>>>>>>>>> abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters.

    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe
    medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical procedure"? >>>>>>>>
    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are
    totally different subjects.

    IDIOTA!!!

    https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5f01266525c76ea4ac2f27c6e6ad744a-620x287.jpg

    https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor-describes-how-post-birth-abortion-would-proceed

    NBC Washingtons Julie Carey asked Northam whether he supported a bill >>>>>>> proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran (D), which would allow
    abortions--up to the moment of birth.

    In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be kept
    comfortable and then resuscitated if thats what the mother and the >>>>>>> family desired the implication being that the baby could be left to >>>>>>> die if the family decided they did not want to keep their child. >>>>>>>
    In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you >>>>>>> exactly what would happen, Northam said. The infant would be
    delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be >>>>>>> resuscitated if thats what the mother and the family desired, and then >>>>>>> a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.

    Why should the woman be forced against her will to undergo a
    process that could endanger her health and very life while
    there is a simple safe medical procedure to prevent that?

    Giving birth does NOT "endanger her health and very life..."

    You baby-killing ignoranus!

    http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

    : The dangers involved with pregnancy include but are not limited to:
    :
    : Death
    : Abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    : Pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged
    : former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers,
    : associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and
    : reduced quality of life)
    : Scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    : Increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    : Loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Embolism
    :
    : Temporary adverse effects
    :
    : Exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    : altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    : Nausea and vomiting
    : Dizziness and light-headedness
    : Bloating and attendant discomfort
    : Hemmorhoids
    : Cramps
    : Acne and mild skin disorders
    : Skin discoloration, particularly face and abdomen
    : Mild to severe backache and strain
    : Increased headaches
    : Difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    : Increased urination and incontinence
    : Breast pain and discharge
    : Swelling of joints, and attendant discomfort or pain
    : Difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
    : Inability to take regular medications
    : Shortness of breath
    : Higher blood pressure
    : Hair loss
    : Tendency to anemia
    : Infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
    : (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant
    : women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases) >>>> : Curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities
    : Hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
    : Extreme pain on delivery
    : Continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period, exacerbated if >>>> : c-section (major surgery) is required, sometimes taking up to a full >>>> : year to fully recover
    :
    : Occasional complications and side effects
    :
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Severe scarring requiring later surgery, esp. after additional
    : pregnancies
    : Dropped uterus, esp. with additional pregnancies
    : Pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of >>>> : pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of
    : pregnancies)
    : Eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of >>>> : death)
    : Gestational diabetes
    : Placenta previa
    : Anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    : Thrombocytopenic purpura
    : Severe cramping
    : Embolism (blood clots)
    : Medical disability requiring full bed rest, frequently ordered during >>>> : part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of
    : either mother or baby
    : Torn abdominal muscles
    : Mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    : Serious infection and disease, e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis
    : Hormonal imbalance
    : Ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    : Broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
    : Hemorrhage
    : Refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    : Aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions, e.g. epilepsy is >>>> : present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug
    : metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the
    : number and frequency of seizures
    : Severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    :
    : Some less common (and serious) complications
    :
    : Peripartum cardiomyopathy
    : Cardiopulmonary arrest
    : Magnesium toxicity
    : Severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    : Massive embolism
    : increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    : Molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a
    : pregnancy-induced cancer)
    : Malignant arrhythmia
    : Circulatory collapse
    : Placental abruption
    :
    :
    :
    Every day in 2017, approximately 810 women died from
    preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mortality

    Which is not even relevant to Northam's talk and kill program.

    It is relevant to any politically base program to limit the
    freedom of choice.

    Murder =/ "choice".

    Murder is a specific legal term requiring a specific act
    which is defined as murder by local law. It is not murder
    anywhere in the US.






    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German

    THEN STOP ACTING LIKE ONE, ASSHOLE!

    Do you even know what a Nazi was,

    Do you need a Zyklon lung enema, babykiller?

    Not an answer but I didn't expect one.

    I have never killed a baby.


    By your definition...

    By anyone's definition.

    Not Ralph Northam's.

    Nor your's I would expect but that doesn't matter.

    --
    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    There are four despicable occupations:
    Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
    Pimps
    Priests
    Reporters

    But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

    National Socialist American Worker's Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
    and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
    Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
    including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
    Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
    Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

    Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From meercox@21:1/5 to Attila on Thu May 27 11:03:56 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On 5/25/2021 7:12 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 25 May 2021 15:31:16 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jqb3$2u23$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/25/2021 12:44 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 25 May 2021 12:21:02 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jf6d$6e6$5@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 3:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 12:01:45 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gpm9$1dgk$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 11:36 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 11:13:54 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gmsi$282j$8@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/23/2021 2:27 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in >>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in >>>>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to >>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters.

    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe >>>>>>>>>>> medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical procedure"? >>>>>>>>>
    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are
    totally different subjects.

    IDIOTA!!!

    https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5f01266525c76ea4ac2f27c6e6ad744a-620x287.jpg

    https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor-describes-how-post-birth-abortion-would-proceed

    NBC Washington’s Julie Carey asked Northam whether he supported a bill
    proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran (D), which would allow >>>>>>>> abortions--up to the moment of birth.

    In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be “kept >>>>>>>> comfortable” and then “resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the
    family desired” – the implication being that the baby could be left to
    die if the family decided they did not want to keep their child. >>>>>>>>
    “In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you >>>>>>>> exactly what would happen,” Northam said. “The infant would be >>>>>>>> delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be >>>>>>>> resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then
    a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.” >>>>>>>
    Why should the woman be forced against her will to undergo a
    process that could endanger her health and very life while
    there is a simple safe medical procedure to prevent that?

    Giving birth does NOT "endanger her health and very life..."

    You baby-killing ignoranus!

    http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

    : The dangers involved with pregnancy include but are not limited to: >>>>> :
    : Death
    : Abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    : Pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged
    : former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers,
    : associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and
    : reduced quality of life)
    : Scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    : Increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    : Loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Embolism
    :
    : Temporary adverse effects
    :
    : Exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    : altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    : Nausea and vomiting
    : Dizziness and light-headedness
    : Bloating and attendant discomfort
    : Hemmorhoids
    : Cramps
    : Acne and mild skin disorders
    : Skin discoloration, particularly face and abdomen
    : Mild to severe backache and strain
    : Increased headaches
    : Difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    : Increased urination and incontinence
    : Breast pain and discharge
    : Swelling of joints, and attendant discomfort or pain
    : Difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
    : Inability to take regular medications
    : Shortness of breath
    : Higher blood pressure
    : Hair loss
    : Tendency to anemia
    : Infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
    : (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant
    : women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases) >>>>> : Curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities >>>>> : Hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
    : Extreme pain on delivery
    : Continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period, exacerbated if >>>>> : c-section (major surgery) is required, sometimes taking up to a full >>>>> : year to fully recover
    :
    : Occasional complications and side effects
    :
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Severe scarring requiring later surgery, esp. after additional
    : pregnancies
    : Dropped uterus, esp. with additional pregnancies
    : Pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of >>>>> : pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of
    : pregnancies)
    : Eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of >>>>> : death)
    : Gestational diabetes
    : Placenta previa
    : Anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    : Thrombocytopenic purpura
    : Severe cramping
    : Embolism (blood clots)
    : Medical disability requiring full bed rest, frequently ordered during >>>>> : part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of >>>>> : either mother or baby
    : Torn abdominal muscles
    : Mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    : Serious infection and disease, e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis >>>>> : Hormonal imbalance
    : Ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    : Broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
    : Hemorrhage
    : Refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    : Aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions, e.g. epilepsy is >>>>> : present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug
    : metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the
    : number and frequency of seizures
    : Severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    :
    : Some less common (and serious) complications
    :
    : Peripartum cardiomyopathy
    : Cardiopulmonary arrest
    : Magnesium toxicity
    : Severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    : Massive embolism
    : increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    : Molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a
    : pregnancy-induced cancer)
    : Malignant arrhythmia
    : Circulatory collapse
    : Placental abruption
    :
    :
    :
    Every day in 2017, approximately 810 women died from
    preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mortality

    Which is not even relevant to Northam's talk and kill program.

    It is relevant to any politically base program to limit the
    freedom of choice.

    Murder =/ "choice".

    Murder is a specific legal term requiring a specific act
    which is defined as murder by local law. It is not murder
    anywhere in the US.






    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German

    THEN STOP ACTING LIKE ONE, ASSHOLE!

    Do you even know what a Nazi was,

    Do you need a Zyklon lung enema, babykiller?

    Not an answer but I didn't expect one.

    I have never killed a baby.


    By your definition...

    By anyone's definition.

    Not Ralph Northam's.

    Nor your's I would expect but that doesn't matter.


    Why would it, I'm not a corrupted lawmaker in blackafce coming up with
    reasons to kill the newly born after all.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Attila@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 27 15:16:48 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On Thu, 27 May 2021 11:03:56 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8oje2$8jd$2@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/25/2021 7:12 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 25 May 2021 15:31:16 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jqb3$2u23$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/25/2021 12:44 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 25 May 2021 12:21:02 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jf6d$6e6$5@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 3:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 12:01:45 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gpm9$1dgk$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 11:36 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 11:13:54 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gmsi$282j$8@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/23/2021 2:27 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in >>>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in >>>>>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to
    abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters.

    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe >>>>>>>>>>>> medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical procedure"? >>>>>>>>>>
    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are
    totally different subjects.

    IDIOTA!!!

    https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5f01266525c76ea4ac2f27c6e6ad744a-620x287.jpg

    https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor-describes-how-post-birth-abortion-would-proceed

    NBC Washingtons Julie Carey asked Northam whether he supported a bill
    proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran (D), which would allow >>>>>>>>> abortions--up to the moment of birth.

    In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be kept >>>>>>>>> comfortable and then resuscitated if thats what the mother and the >>>>>>>>> family desired the implication being that the baby could be left to
    die if the family decided they did not want to keep their child. >>>>>>>>>
    In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you >>>>>>>>> exactly what would happen, Northam said. The infant would be >>>>>>>>> delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be >>>>>>>>> resuscitated if thats what the mother and the family desired, and then
    a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. >>>>>>>>
    Why should the woman be forced against her will to undergo a
    process that could endanger her health and very life while
    there is a simple safe medical procedure to prevent that?

    Giving birth does NOT "endanger her health and very life..."

    You baby-killing ignoranus!

    http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

    : The dangers involved with pregnancy include but are not limited to: >>>>>> :
    : Death
    : Abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    : Pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged >>>>>> : former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers,
    : associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and
    : reduced quality of life)
    : Scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    : Increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    : Loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Embolism
    :
    : Temporary adverse effects
    :
    : Exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    : altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    : Nausea and vomiting
    : Dizziness and light-headedness
    : Bloating and attendant discomfort
    : Hemmorhoids
    : Cramps
    : Acne and mild skin disorders
    : Skin discoloration, particularly face and abdomen
    : Mild to severe backache and strain
    : Increased headaches
    : Difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    : Increased urination and incontinence
    : Breast pain and discharge
    : Swelling of joints, and attendant discomfort or pain
    : Difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
    : Inability to take regular medications
    : Shortness of breath
    : Higher blood pressure
    : Hair loss
    : Tendency to anemia
    : Infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
    : (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant >>>>>> : women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases) >>>>>> : Curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities >>>>>> : Hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
    : Extreme pain on delivery
    : Continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period, exacerbated if >>>>>> : c-section (major surgery) is required, sometimes taking up to a full >>>>>> : year to fully recover
    :
    : Occasional complications and side effects
    :
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Severe scarring requiring later surgery, esp. after additional
    : pregnancies
    : Dropped uterus, esp. with additional pregnancies
    : Pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of >>>>>> : pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of
    : pregnancies)
    : Eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of >>>>>> : death)
    : Gestational diabetes
    : Placenta previa
    : Anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    : Thrombocytopenic purpura
    : Severe cramping
    : Embolism (blood clots)
    : Medical disability requiring full bed rest, frequently ordered during >>>>>> : part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of >>>>>> : either mother or baby
    : Torn abdominal muscles
    : Mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    : Serious infection and disease, e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis >>>>>> : Hormonal imbalance
    : Ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    : Broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
    : Hemorrhage
    : Refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    : Aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions, e.g. epilepsy is >>>>>> : present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug
    : metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the >>>>>> : number and frequency of seizures
    : Severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    :
    : Some less common (and serious) complications
    :
    : Peripartum cardiomyopathy
    : Cardiopulmonary arrest
    : Magnesium toxicity
    : Severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    : Massive embolism
    : increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    : Molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a
    : pregnancy-induced cancer)
    : Malignant arrhythmia
    : Circulatory collapse
    : Placental abruption
    :
    :
    :
    Every day in 2017, approximately 810 women died from
    preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mortality >>>>>
    Which is not even relevant to Northam's talk and kill program.

    It is relevant to any politically base program to limit the
    freedom of choice.

    Murder =/ "choice".

    Murder is a specific legal term requiring a specific act
    which is defined as murder by local law. It is not murder
    anywhere in the US.






    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German

    THEN STOP ACTING LIKE ONE, ASSHOLE!

    Do you even know what a Nazi was,

    Do you need a Zyklon lung enema, babykiller?

    Not an answer but I didn't expect one.

    I have never killed a baby.


    By your definition...

    By anyone's definition.

    Not Ralph Northam's.

    Nor your's I would expect but that doesn't matter.


    Why would it, I'm not a corrupted lawmaker in blackafce coming up with >reasons to kill the newly born after all.

    There is one final argument. If you don't want an abortion
    don't have one. No one is forcing you.

    --
    Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
    Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

    There are four despicable occupations:
    Politicians - By far worse than all the others.
    Pimps
    Priests
    Reporters

    But there is nothing more loathsome than a liberal!

    National Socialist American Worker's Party
    (NSAWP) formally known as the Democrat Party
    and now headed by Biden the Bastard and his
    Two Bitches and supported by the Sluts and Pimps
    including Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
    Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
    Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler.

    Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From meercox@21:1/5 to Attila on Fri May 28 11:31:50 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    On 5/27/2021 1:16 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 27 May 2021 11:03:56 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8oje2$8jd$2@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/25/2021 7:12 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 25 May 2021 15:31:16 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jqb3$2u23$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/25/2021 12:44 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 25 May 2021 12:21:02 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jf6d$6e6$5@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 3:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 12:01:45 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gpm9$1dgk$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 11:36 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 11:13:54 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in >>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id <s8gmsi$282j$8@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/23/2021 2:27 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in >>>>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
    We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a minor's right to
    abortion be 100% fully recognized.

    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in shark waters.

    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe >>>>>>>>>>>>> medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical procedure"? >>>>>>>>>>>
    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are >>>>>>>>>>> totally different subjects.

    IDIOTA!!!

    https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5f01266525c76ea4ac2f27c6e6ad744a-620x287.jpg

    https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor-describes-how-post-birth-abortion-would-proceed

    NBC Washington’s Julie Carey asked Northam whether he supported a bill
    proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran (D), which would allow >>>>>>>>>> abortions--up to the moment of birth.

    In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be “kept >>>>>>>>>> comfortable” and then “resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the
    family desired” – the implication being that the baby could be left to
    die if the family decided they did not want to keep their child. >>>>>>>>>>
    “In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you
    exactly what would happen,” Northam said. “The infant would be >>>>>>>>>> delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be >>>>>>>>>> resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then
    a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.” >>>>>>>>>
    Why should the woman be forced against her will to undergo a >>>>>>>>> process that could endanger her health and very life while
    there is a simple safe medical procedure to prevent that?

    Giving birth does NOT "endanger her health and very life..."

    You baby-killing ignoranus!

    http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

    : The dangers involved with pregnancy include but are not limited to: >>>>>>> :
    : Death
    : Abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    : Pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged >>>>>>> : former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers,
    : associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and >>>>>>> : reduced quality of life)
    : Scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    : Increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    : Loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Embolism
    :
    : Temporary adverse effects
    :
    : Exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    : altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    : Nausea and vomiting
    : Dizziness and light-headedness
    : Bloating and attendant discomfort
    : Hemmorhoids
    : Cramps
    : Acne and mild skin disorders
    : Skin discoloration, particularly face and abdomen
    : Mild to severe backache and strain
    : Increased headaches
    : Difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    : Increased urination and incontinence
    : Breast pain and discharge
    : Swelling of joints, and attendant discomfort or pain
    : Difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
    : Inability to take regular medications
    : Shortness of breath
    : Higher blood pressure
    : Hair loss
    : Tendency to anemia
    : Infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease >>>>>>> : (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant >>>>>>> : women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases) >>>>>>> : Curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities >>>>>>> : Hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression >>>>>>> : Extreme pain on delivery
    : Continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period, exacerbated if >>>>>>> : c-section (major surgery) is required, sometimes taking up to a full >>>>>>> : year to fully recover
    :
    : Occasional complications and side effects
    :
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Severe scarring requiring later surgery, esp. after additional >>>>>>> : pregnancies
    : Dropped uterus, esp. with additional pregnancies
    : Pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of
    : pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of >>>>>>> : pregnancies)
    : Eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of >>>>>>> : death)
    : Gestational diabetes
    : Placenta previa
    : Anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    : Thrombocytopenic purpura
    : Severe cramping
    : Embolism (blood clots)
    : Medical disability requiring full bed rest, frequently ordered during >>>>>>> : part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of >>>>>>> : either mother or baby
    : Torn abdominal muscles
    : Mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    : Serious infection and disease, e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis >>>>>>> : Hormonal imbalance
    : Ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    : Broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
    : Hemorrhage
    : Refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    : Aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions, e.g. epilepsy is
    : present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug >>>>>>> : metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the >>>>>>> : number and frequency of seizures
    : Severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    :
    : Some less common (and serious) complications
    :
    : Peripartum cardiomyopathy
    : Cardiopulmonary arrest
    : Magnesium toxicity
    : Severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    : Massive embolism
    : increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    : Molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a
    : pregnancy-induced cancer)
    : Malignant arrhythmia
    : Circulatory collapse
    : Placental abruption
    :
    :
    :
    Every day in 2017, approximately 810 women died from
    preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mortality >>>>>>
    Which is not even relevant to Northam's talk and kill program.

    It is relevant to any politically base program to limit the
    freedom of choice.

    Murder =/ "choice".

    Murder is a specific legal term requiring a specific act
    which is defined as murder by local law. It is not murder
    anywhere in the US.






    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German

    THEN STOP ACTING LIKE ONE, ASSHOLE!

    Do you even know what a Nazi was,

    Do you need a Zyklon lung enema, babykiller?

    Not an answer but I didn't expect one.

    I have never killed a baby.


    By your definition...

    By anyone's definition.

    Not Ralph Northam's.

    Nor your's I would expect but that doesn't matter.


    Why would it, I'm not a corrupted lawmaker in blackafce coming up with
    reasons to kill the newly born after all.

    There is one final argument. If you don't want an abortion
    don't have one. No one is forcing you.


    No beef with that.

    But sitting and talking about the newly born and whether it will die in
    mere minutes is twisted and awful beyond belief!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From a322x1n@21:1/5 to meercox on Fri May 28 22:55:13 2021
    XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics
    XPost: az.politics, alt.abortion

    meercox <cox@net.her> wrote in news:s8r9e5$2efs$10@neodome.net:

    On 5/27/2021 1:16 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 27 May 2021 11:03:56 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8oje2$8jd$2@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/25/2021 7:12 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 25 May 2021 15:31:16 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jqb3$2u23$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/25/2021 12:44 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 25 May 2021 12:21:02 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jf6d$6e6$5@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 3:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 12:01:45 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8gpm9$1dgk$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 11:36 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 11:13:54 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in >>>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id <s8gmsi$282j$8@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/23/2021 2:27 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.abortion with message-id
    <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net> wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.abortion with message-id
    <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net> wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minor's right to abortion be 100% fully recognized. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shark waters.

    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe >>>>>>>>>>>>>> medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical
    procedure"?

    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are >>>>>>>>>>>> totally different subjects.

    IDIOTA!!!

    https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5f0126652 >>>>>>>>>>> 5c76ea4ac2f27c6e6ad744a-620x287.jpg

    https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor >>>>>>>>>>> -describes-how-post-birth-abortion-would-proceed

    NBC Washington’s Julie Carey asked Northam whether he
    supported a bill proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran >>>>>>>>>>> (D), which would allow abortions--up to the moment of birth. >>>>>>>>>>>
    In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be >>>>>>>>>>> “kept comfortable” and then “resuscitated if that’s >>>>>>>>>>> what the mother and the family desired” – the
    implication being that the baby could be left to
    die if the family decided they did not want to keep their >>>>>>>>>>> child.

    “In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I >>>>>>>>>>> can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam said. >>>>>>>>>>> “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept >>>>>>>>>>> comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s >>>>>>>>>>> what the mother and the family desired, and then
    a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the
    mother.”

    Why should the woman be forced against her will to undergo a >>>>>>>>>> process that could endanger her health and very life while >>>>>>>>>> there is a simple safe medical procedure to prevent that?

    Giving birth does NOT "endanger her health and very life..." >>>>>>>>>
    You baby-killing ignoranus!

    http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml

    : The dangers involved with pregnancy include but are not
    : limited to:
    :
    : Death
    : Abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    : Pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of
    : middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former
    : child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal
    : incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life)
    : Scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    : Increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    : Loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Embolism
    :
    : Temporary adverse effects
    :
    : Exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    : altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    : Nausea and vomiting
    : Dizziness and light-headedness
    : Bloating and attendant discomfort
    : Hemmorhoids
    : Cramps
    : Acne and mild skin disorders
    : Skin discoloration, particularly face and abdomen
    : Mild to severe backache and strain
    : Increased headaches
    : Difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    : Increased urination and incontinence
    : Breast pain and discharge
    : Swelling of joints, and attendant discomfort or pain
    : Difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
    : Inability to take regular medications
    : Shortness of breath
    : Higher blood pressure
    : Hair loss
    : Tendency to anemia
    : Infection including from serious and potentially fatal
    : disease (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with
    : non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and
    : certain other diseases) Curtailment of ability to participate >>>>>>>> : in some sports and activities Hormonal mood changes,
    : including normal post-partum depression Extreme pain on
    : delivery Continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery
    : period, exacerbated if c-section (major surgery) is required, >>>>>>>> : sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover
    :
    : Occasional complications and side effects
    :
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Severe scarring requiring later surgery, esp. after
    : additional pregnancies
    : Dropped uterus, esp. with additional pregnancies
    : Pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common
    : complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and
    : affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
    : Eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high >>>>>>>> : risk of death)
    : Gestational diabetes
    : Placenta previa
    : Anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    : Thrombocytopenic purpura
    : Severe cramping
    : Embolism (blood clots)
    : Medical disability requiring full bed rest, frequently
    : ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to >>>>>>>> : months for health of either mother or baby
    : Torn abdominal muscles
    : Mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    : Serious infection and disease, e.g. increased risk of
    : tuberculosis Hormonal imbalance
    : Ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    : Broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
    : Hemorrhage
    : Refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    : Aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions, e.g.
    : epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the
    : pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all >>>>>>>> : the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures
    : Severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    :
    : Some less common (and serious) complications
    :
    : Peripartum cardiomyopathy
    : Cardiopulmonary arrest
    : Magnesium toxicity
    : Severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    : Massive embolism
    : increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    : Molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a
    : pregnancy-induced cancer)
    : Malignant arrhythmia
    : Circulatory collapse
    : Placental abruption
    :
    Every day in 2017, approximately 810 women died from
    preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mortal >>>>>>>> ity

    Which is not even relevant to Northam's talk and kill program.

    It is relevant to any politically base program to limit the
    freedom of choice.

    Murder =/ "choice".

    Murder is a specific legal term requiring a specific act
    which is defined as murder by local law. It is not murder
    anywhere in the US.

    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German

    THEN STOP ACTING LIKE ONE, ASSHOLE!

    Do you even know what a Nazi was,

    Do you need a Zyklon lung enema, babykiller?

    Not an answer but I didn't expect one.

    I have never killed a baby.


    By your definition...

    By anyone's definition.

    Not Ralph Northam's.

    Nor your's I would expect but that doesn't matter.

    Why would it, I'm not a corrupted lawmaker in blackafce coming up
    with reasons to kill the newly born after all.

    There is one final argument. If you don't want an abortion
    don't have one. No one is forcing you.

    No beef with that.

    But sitting and talking about the newly born and whether it will die
    in mere minutes is twisted and awful beyond belief!

    FACT: Baby, bad. Abortion, good.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From meercox@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 29 17:28:01 2021
    XPost: az.politics, tx.politics, alt.abortion

    On 5/28/2021 4:55 PM, a322x1n wrote:
    meercox <cox@net.her> wrote in news:s8r9e5$2efs$10@neodome.net:

    On 5/27/2021 1:16 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Thu, 27 May 2021 11:03:56 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8oje2$8jd$2@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/25/2021 7:12 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 25 May 2021 15:31:16 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jqb3$2u23$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/25/2021 12:44 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Tue, 25 May 2021 12:21:02 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in
    alt.abortion with message-id <s8jf6d$6e6$5@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 3:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 12:01:45 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in >>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id <s8gpm9$1dgk$3@neodome.net>
    wrote:

    On 5/24/2021 11:36 AM, Attila wrote:
    On Mon, 24 May 2021 11:13:54 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> in >>>>>>>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id <s8gmsi$282j$8@neodome.net> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 5/23/2021 2:27 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:06 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.abortion with message-id
    <s8e21v$2dk6$29@neodome.net> wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 7:17 PM, Attila wrote:
    On Sat, 22 May 2021 16:23:07 -0600, meercox <cox@net.her> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.abortion with message-id
    <s8c08c$1090$1@neodome.net> wrote:

    On 5/22/2021 12:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We demand parental consent laws be stopped and a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minor's right to abortion be 100% fully recognized. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I demand you be flayed until bloody and then dropped in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shark waters.

    Why not treat abortion for what it is - a minor and safe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> medical procedure?


    Why euphemize murder and infanticide as a "medical >>>>>>>>>>>>>> procedure"?

    Because they have nothing to do with abortion. They are >>>>>>>>>>>>> totally different subjects.

    IDIOTA!!!

    https://madworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5f0126652 >>>>>>>>>>>> 5c76ea4ac2f27c6e6ad744a-620x287.jpg

    https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor >>>>>>>>>>>> -describes-how-post-birth-abortion-would-proceed

    NBC Washington’s Julie Carey asked Northam whether he >>>>>>>>>>>> supported a bill proposed by Virginia Delegate Kathy Tran >>>>>>>>>>>> (D), which would allow abortions--up to the moment of birth. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    In response, Northam said that a baby born alive could be >>>>>>>>>>>> “kept comfortable” and then “resuscitated if that’s >>>>>>>>>>>> what the mother and the family desired” – the
    implication being that the baby could be left to
    die if the family decided they did not want to keep their >>>>>>>>>>>> child.

    “In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I >>>>>>>>>>>> can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam said. >>>>>>>>>>>> “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept >>>>>>>>>>>> comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s >>>>>>>>>>>> what the mother and the family desired, and then
    a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the >>>>>>>>>>>> mother.”

    Why should the woman be forced against her will to undergo a >>>>>>>>>>> process that could endanger her health and very life while >>>>>>>>>>> there is a simple safe medical procedure to prevent that? >>>>>>>>>>
    Giving birth does NOT "endanger her health and very life..." >>>>>>>>>>
    You baby-killing ignoranus!

    http://www.indiaparenting.com/pregnancy/data/preg16_00.shtml >>>>>>>>>
    : The dangers involved with pregnancy include but are not
    : limited to:
    :
    : Death
    : Abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    : Pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of
    : middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former >>>>>>>>> : child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal
    : incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life)
    : Scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    : Increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    : Loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis) >>>>>>>>> : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Embolism
    :
    : Temporary adverse effects
    :
    : Exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    : altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    : Nausea and vomiting
    : Dizziness and light-headedness
    : Bloating and attendant discomfort
    : Hemmorhoids
    : Cramps
    : Acne and mild skin disorders
    : Skin discoloration, particularly face and abdomen
    : Mild to severe backache and strain
    : Increased headaches
    : Difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    : Increased urination and incontinence
    : Breast pain and discharge
    : Swelling of joints, and attendant discomfort or pain
    : Difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
    : Inability to take regular medications
    : Shortness of breath
    : Higher blood pressure
    : Hair loss
    : Tendency to anemia
    : Infection including from serious and potentially fatal
    : disease (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with >>>>>>>>> : non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and >>>>>>>>> : certain other diseases) Curtailment of ability to participate >>>>>>>>> : in some sports and activities Hormonal mood changes,
    : including normal post-partum depression Extreme pain on
    : delivery Continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery
    : period, exacerbated if c-section (major surgery) is required, >>>>>>>>> : sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover
    :
    : Occasional complications and side effects
    :
    : Temporary and permanent injury to back
    : Severe scarring requiring later surgery, esp. after
    : additional pregnancies
    : Dropped uterus, esp. with additional pregnancies
    : Pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common
    : complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and
    : affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
    : Eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high >>>>>>>>> : risk of death)
    : Gestational diabetes
    : Placenta previa
    : Anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    : Thrombocytopenic purpura
    : Severe cramping
    : Embolism (blood clots)
    : Medical disability requiring full bed rest, frequently
    : ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to >>>>>>>>> : months for health of either mother or baby
    : Torn abdominal muscles
    : Mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    : Serious infection and disease, e.g. increased risk of
    : tuberculosis Hormonal imbalance
    : Ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    : Broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
    : Hemorrhage
    : Refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    : Aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions, e.g. >>>>>>>>> : epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the
    : pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all >>>>>>>>> : the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures >>>>>>>>> : Severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    :
    : Some less common (and serious) complications
    :
    : Peripartum cardiomyopathy
    : Cardiopulmonary arrest
    : Magnesium toxicity
    : Severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    : Massive embolism
    : increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    : Molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a >>>>>>>>> : pregnancy-induced cancer)
    : Malignant arrhythmia
    : Circulatory collapse
    : Placental abruption
    :
    Every day in 2017, approximately 810 women died from
    preventable causes related to pregnancy and childbirth.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/maternal-mortal >>>>>>>>> ity

    Which is not even relevant to Northam's talk and kill program.

    It is relevant to any politically base program to limit the
    freedom of choice.

    Murder =/ "choice".

    Murder is a specific legal term requiring a specific act
    which is defined as murder by local law. It is not murder
    anywhere in the US.

    Are you a nazi?

    I am not German

    THEN STOP ACTING LIKE ONE, ASSHOLE!

    Do you even know what a Nazi was,

    Do you need a Zyklon lung enema, babykiller?

    Not an answer but I didn't expect one.

    I have never killed a baby.


    By your definition...

    By anyone's definition.

    Not Ralph Northam's.

    Nor your's I would expect but that doesn't matter.

    Why would it, I'm not a corrupted lawmaker in blackafce coming up
    with reasons to kill the newly born after all.

    There is one final argument. If you don't want an abortion
    don't have one. No one is forcing you.

    No beef with that.

    But sitting and talking about the newly born and whether it will die
    in mere minutes is twisted and awful beyond belief!

    FACT: Baby, bad. Abortion, good.

    Your innards strung out on a clothesline for buzzards to dine on would
    be marvelous!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)