• "Thank you for your service" [barf]

    From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 13 06:32:20 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to the bar
    at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also
    explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that your >>battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your back.


    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on airplanes -
    is not "service" to country. This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a
    dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of
    battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the
    soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet
    in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear
    on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they
    needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Rudy never had to think of these things, since he was too short to go
    into the service even if called upon. So he can pretend to be tough
    when, in fact, if he was ever handed that bayonet, he would have
    soaked his DCU's in urine, just like he's soaking his jammies right
    now.

    Here are some examples of Rudy pretending to be "tough."




    "You know I would demolish you in a fistfight."
    -Rudy, in a final, desperate attempt to salvage his pride
    after being pummeled senseless.
    -Message-ID: <EfFpB.31818$xN2.24925@fx44.iad>

    "I'm a few years beyond retirement age"
    -Rudy, 4/19/2020


    What's next- a fist fight challenge"
    Sure, why not? Meet me at the Jolly Kone hamburger shack in
    Bakersfield. I've dispatched a couple of other Usenet loudmouth fat
    fucks in the parking lot there. I know the proprietor. If it appears
    you've already suffered your stroke, I'll only use one hand to flatten
    you.
    -Rudy, explaining his fantasy "fist-fight" victories.
    -Message-ID: <U3SuB.25861$TD2.7598@fx18.iad>


    "You still haven't recovered from the ass-kicking I gave you at the
    Jolly Kone, have you? <chuckle>"
    -Rudy Canoza to doctor postalman, 11/18/2017, referring to
    another imaginary "fist fight"
    -Message-ID: <hr%PB.10409$Fz6.2712@fx41.iad>


    "I tell you what. I'm about eight inches shorter than Shitbag [6' 2"]
    Trump, and at least 80 pounds lighter,
    and I would *love* to take the fat fuck on in a fistfight. He gets to
    pick the *public* venue and the referee."
    -5' 6" Rudy, declaring his wish to fist-fight the President
    of the United States, by posting on Usenet.
    -Message-ID: <Xq8DB.451$Q03.210@fx44.iad>


    Trumpchev is such a vile bit of filth.
    Why don't you challenge him to a fist fight?
    I already have. It's legal, too. I even said he gets to pick the
    referee and judges - not that they'll really have anything to do.
    -A desperate Rudy, trying to claim his previous message was
    where he "challenged President Trump to a fist fight."
    -Message-ID: <bIc1C.305646$oE2.186205@fx33.iad>

    You are fit for someone to slam a fist into your florid fat face.
    -Rudy, losing another argument.
    -Message-ID: <kB73D.209647$4M6.187820@fx27.iad>

    I would gladly pay $2,000 for the privilege of beating your fucking
    face to a pulp in person.
    -Rudy, losing again
    -Message-ID: <ire3D.198667$bJ2.1028@fx15.iad>

    ...kleine klauschen, a cunt whom I *have* beat up with my bare
    hands...
    - Rudy, dreaming
    -Message-ID: <fewfF.255710$Yo.161912@fx08.iad>

    "Rudy Canoza beat the living fuck out of me in the parking lot at
    Jolly Kone burgers."
    -Rudy, with another pathetic, impotent forgery
    -Message-ID: <Rr5nF.88475$Sj1.38990@fx33.iad>

    "On 10/23/2019 3:02 PM, kleine klausche, a runt punk whom I have
    flattened, ineptly forged"
    - Another desperate fantasy from Rudy.:

    "I'd like to see some political violence aimed at *you*, you rancid
    cunt."
    -Rudy losing another argument.
    -Message-ID: <KJC2F.238959$i84.232596@fx34.iad>

    "I can kick your ass, and you know it. You're old, small, infirm and
    weak - a fucking speck of dust."
    -Another impotent boast from Usenet's Favorite Dwarf, Rudy
    Canoza
    -Message-ID: <lXqlG.35799$Us2.29588@fx07.iad>

    "I'm bigger than you and I can kick your ass."
    -School-girl sized Rudy, puffing his chest out as far as it
    will go.
    -Message-ID: <KhFlG.47294$2U3.6204@fx04.iad>

    Fuck off and die, and give me your fucking address so I can come help
    you do it.
    -Our favorite dwarf, Rudy Canoza, coming out from under the
    couch to bark.
    -Message-ID: <oIGlG.2165$uE.343@fx24.iad>

    No, you fucking lying midget whom I could flatten with *both* hands
    tied behind my back
    -Rudy Canoza, attempting to destroy everyone's irony meter by
    calling someone else a "midget."
    -Message-ID: <AcjoG.152881$Xk.112717@fx46.iad>

    Fuck you and fuck every Hartung, and I hope you're all beaten to
    death.
    -Rudy losing another discussion
    -Message-ID: <rf7116$16bu$4@neodome.net>

    Read it and *weep*, Schild, you squat-to-piss fairy whom I can - and
    *will* - strangle with my bare hands:
    -Rudy, displaying his impotent rage and gynaphobia in one
    sentence
    Message-ID: <rgngn8$1fa3$1@neodome.net>

    Your kind need to be marginalized, preferably exterminated.
    -Message-ID: <vz%fH.342246$I15.96948@fx36.iad>

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to d_hartung@hotmail.com on Fri Nov 13 07:50:14 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:14:32 -0600, David Hartung
    <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/13/20 12:27 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    On 11/12/2020 2:51 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/12/2020 12:05 PM, Byker wrote:
    "Klaus Schadenfreude" wrote in message
    news:psaqqf1b8m85783732itfru6m58htapp3s@4ax.com...

    So if you want to thank someone for their service in the military, >>>>>> knock yourself out. But all they've done is volunteer to help the
    government perpetuate never-ending war.

    Some of us didn't have much choice: Enlist or be drafted...

    No one cares that you were in the military for whatever reason, and
    no one has any reason to thank you. You didn't "serve" any more than
    the guy loading manure into the back of your minivan at Home Depot is
    "serving." No one owes his "freedoms" to your time in the military.
    You were doing a job, that's all.


    I recommend that you

    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on airplanes
    - is not "service" to country. This is settled.

    Tell that to the pilot who depends on that landing gear, idiot.

    Whenever Rudy says, "This is settled," he knows he's wrong and is
    lacing up his running-away shoes.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Schadenfreude" on Fri Nov 13 10:46:14 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to the bar >>>at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also
    explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that your >>>battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your back.


    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on airplanes - >>is not "service" to country. This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a
    dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of
    battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the
    soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet
    in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear
    on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they
    needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and killed
    for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time, any place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at any moment.

    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any amount up
    to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod. No US carrier has ever completed a deployment without
    loss of life. So yea, that guy greasing the wheel bearings on the carrier
    may well die in the service of their country.



    Rudy never had to think of these things, since he was too short to go
    into the service even if called upon. So he can pretend to be tough
    when, in fact, if he was ever handed that bayonet, he would have
    soaked his DCU's in urine, just like he's soaking his jammies right
    now.

    Here are some examples of Rudy pretending to be "tough."




    "You know I would demolish you in a fistfight."
    -Rudy, in a final, desperate attempt to salvage his pride
    after being pummeled senseless.
    -Message-ID: <EfFpB.31818$xN2.24925@fx44.iad>

    "I'm a few years beyond retirement age"
    -Rudy, 4/19/2020


    What's next- a fist fight challenge"
    Sure, why not? Meet me at the Jolly Kone hamburger shack in
    Bakersfield. I've dispatched a couple of other Usenet loudmouth fat
    fucks in the parking lot there. I know the proprietor. If it appears
    you've already suffered your stroke, I'll only use one hand to flatten
    you.
    -Rudy, explaining his fantasy "fist-fight" victories.
    -Message-ID: <U3SuB.25861$TD2.7598@fx18.iad>


    "You still haven't recovered from the ass-kicking I gave you at the
    Jolly Kone, have you? <chuckle>"
    -Rudy Canoza to doctor postalman, 11/18/2017, referring to
    another imaginary "fist fight"
    -Message-ID: <hr%PB.10409$Fz6.2712@fx41.iad>


    "I tell you what. I'm about eight inches shorter than Shitbag [6' 2"]
    Trump, and at least 80 pounds lighter,
    and I would *love* to take the fat fuck on in a fistfight. He gets to
    pick the *public* venue and the referee."
    -5' 6" Rudy, declaring his wish to fist-fight the President
    of the United States, by posting on Usenet.
    -Message-ID: <Xq8DB.451$Q03.210@fx44.iad>


    Trumpchev is such a vile bit of filth.
    Why don't you challenge him to a fist fight?
    I already have. It's legal, too. I even said he gets to pick the
    referee and judges - not that they'll really have anything to do.
    -A desperate Rudy, trying to claim his previous message was
    where he "challenged President Trump to a fist fight."
    -Message-ID: <bIc1C.305646$oE2.186205@fx33.iad>

    You are fit for someone to slam a fist into your florid fat face.
    -Rudy, losing another argument.
    -Message-ID: <kB73D.209647$4M6.187820@fx27.iad>

    I would gladly pay $2,000 for the privilege of beating your fucking
    face to a pulp in person.
    -Rudy, losing again
    -Message-ID: <ire3D.198667$bJ2.1028@fx15.iad>

    ...kleine klauschen, a cunt whom I *have* beat up with my bare
    hands...
    - Rudy, dreaming
    -Message-ID: <fewfF.255710$Yo.161912@fx08.iad>

    "Rudy Canoza beat the living fuck out of me in the parking lot at
    Jolly Kone burgers."
    -Rudy, with another pathetic, impotent forgery
    -Message-ID: <Rr5nF.88475$Sj1.38990@fx33.iad>

    "On 10/23/2019 3:02 PM, kleine klausche, a runt punk whom I have
    flattened, ineptly forged"
    - Another desperate fantasy from Rudy.:

    "I'd like to see some political violence aimed at *you*, you rancid
    cunt."
    -Rudy losing another argument.
    -Message-ID: <KJC2F.238959$i84.232596@fx34.iad>

    "I can kick your ass, and you know it. You're old, small, infirm and
    weak - a fucking speck of dust."
    -Another impotent boast from Usenet's Favorite Dwarf, Rudy
    Canoza
    -Message-ID: <lXqlG.35799$Us2.29588@fx07.iad>

    "I'm bigger than you and I can kick your ass."
    -School-girl sized Rudy, puffing his chest out as far as it
    will go.
    -Message-ID: <KhFlG.47294$2U3.6204@fx04.iad>

    Fuck off and die, and give me your fucking address so I can come help
    you do it.
    -Our favorite dwarf, Rudy Canoza, coming out from under the
    couch to bark.
    -Message-ID: <oIGlG.2165$uE.343@fx24.iad>

    No, you fucking lying midget whom I could flatten with *both* hands
    tied behind my back
    -Rudy Canoza, attempting to destroy everyone's irony meter by
    calling someone else a "midget."
    -Message-ID: <AcjoG.152881$Xk.112717@fx46.iad>

    Fuck you and fuck every Hartung, and I hope you're all beaten to
    death.
    -Rudy losing another discussion
    -Message-ID: <rf7116$16bu$4@neodome.net>

    Read it and *weep*, Schild, you squat-to-piss fairy whom I can - and
    *will* - strangle with my bare hands:
    -Rudy, displaying his impotent rage and gynaphobia in one
    sentence
    Message-ID: <rgngn8$1fa3$1@neodome.net>

    Your kind need to be marginalized, preferably exterminated.
    -Message-ID: <vz%fH.342246$I15.96948@fx36.iad>




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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Scout on Fri Nov 13 10:20:17 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 11/13/20 9:46 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Klaus  Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote
    in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to the
    bar
    at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also
    explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that your >>>> battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your back.


    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on
    airplanes -
    is not "service" to country.  This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a
    dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of
    battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the
    soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet
    in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear
    on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they
    needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and
    killed for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines
    engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time, any place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at any moment.

    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any amount
    up to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod. No US carrier has ever completed a deployment
    without loss of life. So yea, that guy greasing the wheel bearings on
    the carrier may well die in the service of their country.

    I don't know what the official plans showed, but it was pretty much
    understood by those of us stationed in Germany that had there been a
    surprise attack by the East Bloc, we would have been overrun in about
    three days, and it mattered not whether one was in combat position, or
    in a "remf" position, your life was at risk. On this matter Rudy is an
    idiot.

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Fri Nov 13 11:43:01 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.war.vietnam, alt.military
    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    "David Hartung" wrote in message news:Qp-dnfbOWKn2CTPCnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com...

    It is not necessary to thank a veteran, but if the thanks is sincere, it
    is usually appreciated. You might also consider that this practice came
    about because as a nation we are embarrassed by the poor treatment of
    those who had served in Vietnam, treatment given by you, Holman and those like you.

    And the regarding of Viet Vets as "baby killers" and walking time bombs continued right up to 9/11, when it suddenly seemed to disappear
    overnight...

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Fri Nov 13 10:28:29 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 11/13/2020 8:20 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 9:46 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Klaus  Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote
    in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to the bar >>>>> at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also
    explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that your >>>>> battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your back. >>>

    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on airplanes - >>>> is not "service" to country.  This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a
    dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of
    battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the
    soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet
    in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear
    on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they
    needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and
    killed for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines
    engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time, any
    place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at any moment. >>
    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any amount
    up to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod [sic]

    <chuckle>

    No US carrier has ever completed a deployment
    without loss of life.

    This is bullshit, of course, and scooter could not possibly be in a
    position to know such a "factiod." [sic]


    I don't know what the official plans showed, but it was pretty much understood by those of us stationed in Germany that had there been a
    surprise attack by the East Bloc, we would have been overrun in about three days, and it mattered not whether one was in combat position, or in a
    "remf" position, your life was at risk. On this matter Rudy is an idiot.

    No, you stupid flatulent incontinent cocksucker. I didn't say that having
    a job in the military carries no risk. I said it is not "service" to one's country. It isn't.

    I remember a great line said by some German military leader in the 1980s.
    The German army basically let all, or nearly all, of its soldiers go home
    on weekends. Some American chicken-little general questioned this, asking about the risk of the Russians launching a surprise attack on the weekend.
    The German military leader said something to the effect of "If the
    Russians are going to attack on Saturday, I'll know about it by the
    previous Wednesday." He was right, of course.

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  • From Bill Flett@21:1/5 to Byker on Fri Nov 13 10:23:03 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.war.vietnam, alt.military
    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On 11/13/2020 9:43 AM, Byker wrote:
    "David Hartung"  wrote in message news:Qp-dnfbOWKn2CTPCnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com...

    It is not necessary to thank a veteran, but if the thanks is sincere, it
    is usually appreciated. You might also consider that this practice came
    about because as a nation we are embarrassed by the poor treatment of
    those who had served in Vietnam, treatment given by you, Holman and those
    like you.

    And the regarding of Viet Vets as "baby killers" and walking time bombs continued right up to 9/11, when it suddenly seemed to disappear
    overnight...

    What fucking bullshit.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 13 11:42:32 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:28:36 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/13/2020 6:14 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 12:27 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    On 11/12/2020 2:51 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/12/2020 12:05 PM, Byker wrote:
    "Klaus Schadenfreude" wrote in message
    news:psaqqf1b8m85783732itfru6m58htapp3s@4ax.com...

    So if you want to thank someone for their service in the military, >>>>>>> knock yourself out. But all they've done is volunteer to help the >>>>>>> government perpetuate never-ending war.

    Some of us didn't have much choice: Enlist or be drafted...

    No one cares that you were in the military for whatever reason, and no >>>>> one has any reason to thank you. You didn't "serve" any more than the >>>>> guy loading manure into the back of your minivan at Home Depot is
    "serving." No one owes his "freedoms" to your time in the military. You >>>>> were doing a job, that's all.


    I recommend that you

    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on airplanes - >>> is not "service" to country. This is settled.

    Tell that to the pilot who depends on that landing gear,

    [Desperate now, Rudy erects his straw man in an impotent attempt to
    hide from his own idiocy.]

    What about commercial aircraft?

    We're talking about military service, dwarf.

    You have no idea how stupid you look.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 13 11:44:36 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 10:28:29 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/13/2020 8:20 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 9:46 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote
    in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to the bar >>>>>> at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also
    explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that your >>>>>> battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your back. >>>>

    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on airplanes - >>>>> is not "service" to country. This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a
    dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of
    battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the
    soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet
    in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear
    on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they
    needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and
    killed for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines
    engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time, any >>> place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at any moment. >>>
    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any amount
    up to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod [sic]

    <chuckle>

    No US carrier has ever completed a deployment
    without loss of life.

    This is bullshit, of course, and scooter could not possibly be in a
    position to know such a "factiod." [sic]

    Rudy's reply is bullshit, of course, since he has never been in a
    position to know what Mr. Scout knows.

    I don't know what the official plans showed, but it was pretty much
    understood by those of us stationed in Germany that had there been a
    surprise attack by the East Bloc, we would have been overrun in about three >> days, and it mattered not whether one was in combat position, or in a
    "remf" position, your life was at risk. On this matter Rudy is an idiot.

    No, you stupid flatulent incontinent cocksucker. I didn't say that having
    a job in the military carries no risk. I said it is not "service" to one's >country. It isn't.

    You were wrong then, and now. That's been settled.


    I remember a great line said by some German military leader in the 1980s.
    The German army basically let all, or nearly all, of its soldiers go home
    on weekends. Some American chicken-little general questioned this, asking >about the risk of the Russians launching a surprise attack on the weekend.
    The German military leader said something to the effect of "If the
    Russians are going to attack on Saturday, I'll know about it by the
    previous Wednesday." He was right, of course.

    That's a nice story which has nothing to do with your idiot belief
    that military wheel greasers don't "serve."

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 13 11:47:36 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:25:40 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    [followups vandalism by Nazi shitbag pastor-to-the-KKK repaired]

    Hartung has no fucking clue that repairing the vandalism, *including*
    posting this notice, takes me less time than it takes Hartung to commit the >vandalism. Too fucking funny!

    On 11/13/2020 6:12 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/11/20 10:55 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    I've been seeing this *bullshit* all over Facebook today. One guy,
    someone I barely knew in jr. high and high school (but a good guy,
    anyway), posted a bunch of pics of him in uniform in about 1974. All of >>> our mutual FB friends dutifully and slavishly replied "thank you for >>> your service." I asked him what he did during his time in the army.
    Answer? He did computer repairs.

    Your point?

    He was not a brave, valiant soldier risking his life.

    Cite.

    What he did wasn't
    service.

    To bad you're too stupid to use a dictionary.

    That kind of thing can be, and now probably is, contracted out to
    private industry.

    The entire military could be contracted out to private industry,
    dwarf. But it's not. Your "argument" fails.

    [And now, Rudy erects yet another straw man.]

    Would you thank a contemporary computer repair tech who
    fixes computers used by the military for his "service"?

    Fuck, you're stupid.

    Speaking stupid, here's another reply by Rudy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 13 11:57:45 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:41:35 -0800, Rudy Canoza <j_carlson@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    You *still* have not made the case that their military work is "service" to >the country, while some landscaping contractor mowing the lawn outside the >Pentagon is not "serving" his country.

    Yet ANOTHER pathetic, impotent straw man erected by our impotent incel
    dwarf, Rudy Canoza.

    Know how we can tell?

    First they're only 5'4" tall. That's about the height of an average
    woman.

    Second, the military doesn't cut their own lawns. They hire civilian
    landscape contractors.

    Third, even if a military employee DID mow the lawn, he's serving his
    country.

    But Rudy-- who doesn't know how to use a dictionary-- doesn't know
    what "Service" means. This is settled.

    ANYONE in the military deserve's Rudy's respect. Because-- to a man--
    they're all superior to Rudy-- physically and mentally.

    Each and every one.

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Fri Nov 13 17:17:07 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 11/13/20 12:28 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 8:20 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 9:46 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Klaus  Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com>
    wrote in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to
    the bar
    at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also
    explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that
    your
    battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your
    back.


    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on
    airplanes -
    is not "service" to country.  This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a
    dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of
    battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the
    soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet
    in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear
    on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they
    needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and
    killed for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines
    engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time,
    any place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at
    any moment.

    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any
    amount up to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod [sic]

    <chuckle>

    No US carrier has ever completed a deployment without loss of life.

    This is bullshit, of course, and scooter could not possibly be in a
    position to know such a "factiod." [sic]

    You couldn't possibly know that he is wrong.

    I don't know what the official plans showed, but it was pretty much
    understood by those of us stationed in Germany that had there been a
    surprise attack by the East Bloc, we would have been overrun in about
    three days, and it mattered not whether one was in combat position, or
    in a "remf" position, your life was at risk. On this matter Rudy is an
    idiot.

    No, you stupid flatulent incontinent cocksucker.  I didn't say that
    having a job in the military carries no risk.  I said it is not
    "service" to one's country.  It isn't.

    In your opinion, one which is not shared by those who do serve, or have
    served in the military.

    I remember a great line said by some German military leader in the
    1980s. The German army basically let all, or nearly all, of its soldiers
    go home on weekends.  Some American chicken-little general questioned
    this, asking about the risk of the Russians launching a surprise attack
    on the weekend.  The German military leader said something to the effect
    of "If the Russians are going to attack on Saturday, I'll know about it
    by the previous Wednesday."  He was right, of course.

    Has absolutely nothing to do with the subject.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 13 16:12:39 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 15:17:20 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    Commercial aircraft aren't expected to fly into harms [sic] way, and

    An air force pilot returning to base is not in harm's way.

    Only an idiot would make this claim.

    Are you actually stupid enough to think that the Germans stopped
    shooting at B-17's after they dropped their bombs and headed for home?

    Really, Rudy? Is THAT how fucking stupid you are?

    "Laugh laugh laugh laugh."
    -Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Fri Nov 13 15:28:08 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 11/13/2020 3:17 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 12:28 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 8:20 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 9:46 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Klaus  Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote >>>> in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to the >>>>>>> bar
    at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also >>>>>>> explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that your >>>>>>> battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your back. >>>>>

    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on
    airplanes -
    is not "service" to country.  This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a
    dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of
    battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the
    soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet >>>>> in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear >>>>> on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they >>>>> needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and
    killed for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines
    engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time,
    any place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at any >>>> moment.

    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any amount >>>> up to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod [sic]

    <chuckle>

    No US carrier has ever completed a deployment without loss of life.

    This is bullshit, of course, and scooter could not possibly be in a
    position to know such a "factiod." [sic]

    You couldn't possibly know that he is wrong.

    I know that he is not in any position to know what he claims to know.


    I don't know what the official plans showed, but it was pretty much
    understood by those of us stationed in Germany that had there been a
    surprise attack by the East Bloc, we would have been overrun in about
    three days, and it mattered not whether one was in combat position, or
    in a "remf" position, your life was at risk. On this matter Rudy is an
    idiot.

    No, you stupid flatulent incontinent cocksucker.  I didn't say that
    having a job in the military carries no risk.  I said it is not "service" >> to one's country.  It isn't.

    In your opinion,

    Concession of defeat noted. That's what it always is when you use one of
    your lie/tropes.


    I remember a great line said by some German military leader in the 1980s.
    The German army basically let all, or nearly all, of its soldiers go home
    on weekends.  Some American chicken-little general questioned this,
    asking about the risk of the Russians launching a surprise attack on the
    weekend.  The German military leader said something to the effect of "If
    the Russians are going to attack on Saturday, I'll know about it by the
    previous Wednesday."  He was right, of course.

    Has absolutely nothing to do with the subject.


    False.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 13 16:16:56 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 15:29:40 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/13/2020 3:20 PM, David Hartung wrote:

    Trump and McCain aren't a part of this discussion.


    Wrong.

    Something else that's part of the discussion:

    Rudy's lies and usual frantic bullshit.

    LOL

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Byker on Fri Nov 13 16:38:07 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.war.vietnam, alt.military
    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On 11/13/2020 9:43 AM, Byker wrote:
    "David Hartung"  wrote in message news:Qp-dnfbOWKn2CTPCnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com...

    It is not necessary to thank a veteran, but if the thanks is sincere, it
    is usually appreciated. You might also consider that this practice came
    about because as a nation we are embarrassed by the poor treatment of
    those who had served in Vietnam, treatment given by you, Holman and those
    like you.

    And the regarding of Viet Vets as "baby killers" and walking time bombs continued right up to 9/11, when it suddenly seemed to disappear
    overnight...

    Perhaps, for those who walked around with a
    'chip on their shoulder'. I found that since about
    90% of our age group did not serve, that most
    people assumed one had not. The subject for
    most, just did not come up.

    But yes, after 9/11, much higher respect was
    given.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 13 17:07:23 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.war.vietnam, alt.military
    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On 11/13/2020 4:38 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 9:43 AM, Byker wrote:
    "David Hartung"  wrote in message
    news:Qp-dnfbOWKn2CTPCnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com...

    It is not necessary to thank a veteran, but if the thanks is sincere, it >>> is usually appreciated. You might also consider that this practice came
    about because as a nation we are embarrassed by the poor treatment of
    those who had served in Vietnam, treatment given by you, Holman and those >>> like you.

    And the regarding of Viet Vets as "baby killers" and walking time bombs
    continued right up to 9/11, when it suddenly seemed to disappear
    overnight...

    Perhaps, for those who walked around with a
    'chip on their shoulder'.  I found that since about
    90% of our age group did not serve, that most
    people assumed one had not.  The subject for
    most, just did not come up.

    But yes, after 9/11, much higher respect was
    given.

    Unwarranted.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 13 16:15:50 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 15:28:08 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/13/2020 3:17 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 12:28 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 8:20 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 9:46 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote >>>>> in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to the >>>>>>>> bar
    at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also >>>>>>>> explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that your >>>>>>>> battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your back.


    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on
    airplanes -
    is not "service" to country. This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a
    dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of >>>>>> battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the
    soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet >>>>>> in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear >>>>>> on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they >>>>>> needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."



    [crickets.wav] ( 2020 All Rights Reserved)



    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and >>>>> killed for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines >>>>> engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time, >>>>> any place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at any >>>>> moment.

    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any amount >>>>> up to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod [sic]

    <chuckle>

    No US carrier has ever completed a deployment without loss of life.

    This is bullshit, of course, and scooter could not possibly be in a
    position to know such a "factiod." [sic]

    You couldn't possibly know that he is wrong.

    I know that he is not in any position to know what he claims to know.


    No, you don't know that.


    I remember a great line said by some German military leader in the 1980s. >>> The German army basically let all, or nearly all, of its soldiers go home >>> on weekends. Some American chicken-little general questioned this,
    asking about the risk of the Russians launching a surprise attack on the >>> weekend. The German military leader said something to the effect of "If >>> the Russians are going to attack on Saturday, I'll know about it by the
    previous Wednesday." He was right, of course.

    Has absolutely nothing to do with the subject.


    False.


    Rudy KNOWS it has nothing to do with what's being discussed. He's just desperate to extricate himself from this discussion now. You can tell
    by his frenzied vandalism of the follow-ups.

    LOL

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Fri Nov 13 17:09:03 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 11/13/2020 3:50 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 5:28 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 3:17 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 12:28 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 8:20 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 9:46 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Klaus  Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to >>>>>>>>> the bar
    at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also >>>>>>>>> explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that >>>>>>>>> your
    battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your >>>>>>>>> back.


    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on
    airplanes -
    is not "service" to country.  This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a >>>>>>> dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of >>>>>>> battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the >>>>>>> soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet >>>>>>> in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear >>>>>>> on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they >>>>>>> needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and >>>>>> killed for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines >>>>>> engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time, >>>>>> any place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at >>>>>> any moment.

    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any
    amount up to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod [sic]

    <chuckle>

    No US carrier has ever completed a deployment without loss of life.

    This is bullshit, of course, and scooter could not possibly be in a
    position to know such a "factiod." [sic]

    You couldn't possibly know that he is wrong.

    I know that he is not in any position to know what he claims to know.

    Actually you do not.

    Actually, I do.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Sat Nov 14 09:05:32 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    "Rudy Canoza" <js@phendrie.con> wrote in message news:kfArH.209282$5l1.197694@fx10.iad...
    On 11/13/2020 8:20 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 9:46 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote
    in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to the >>>>>> bar
    at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also
    explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that
    your
    battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your
    back.


    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on
    airplanes -
    is not "service" to country. This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a
    dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of
    battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the
    soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet
    in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear
    on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they
    needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and
    killed for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines
    engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time, any >>> place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at any
    moment.

    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any amount
    up to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod [sic]

    <chuckle>

    No US carrier has ever completed a deployment without loss of life.

    This is bullshit, of course, and scooter could not possibly be in a
    position to know such a "factiod." [sic]

    And you are in what position to know otherwise?

    But feel free to look through any cruise book out there for a US carrier.....there is ALWAYS a section on those who died during the cruise.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Sat Nov 14 09:27:25 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    "Rudy Canoza" <js@phendrie.con> wrote in message news:cEErH.140858$MQ.29@fx14.iad...
    On 11/13/2020 3:17 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 12:28 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 8:20 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 9:46 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com>
    wrote in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to >>>>>>>> the bar
    at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also >>>>>>>> explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that >>>>>>>> your
    battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your >>>>>>>> back.


    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on
    airplanes -
    is not "service" to country. This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a
    dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of >>>>>> battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the
    soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet >>>>>> in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear >>>>>> on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they >>>>>> needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and >>>>> killed for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines >>>>> engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time, >>>>> any place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at any >>>>> moment.

    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any
    amount up to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod [sic]

    <chuckle>

    No US carrier has ever completed a deployment without loss of life.

    This is bullshit, of course, and scooter could not possibly be in a
    position to know such a "factiod." [sic]

    You couldn't possibly know that he is wrong.

    I know that he is not in any position to know what he claims to know.

    Ok, please cite how you know that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Sat Nov 14 09:28:56 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    "Rudy Canoza" <js@phendrie.con> wrote in message news:EFErH.140859$MQ.46564@fx14.iad...
    On 11/13/2020 3:20 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 1:25 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Qp-dnfbOWKn2CTPCnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com:



    Any who take the oath of either enlistment or commissioning, deserve
    our respect, whether that oath is in the regular forces, or in the
    reserves.


    So why doesn't John McCain get nany respect from Trump?

    Trump and McCain aren't a part of this discussion.


    Wrong.

    Something else that's part of the discussion: Trump calling dead GIs
    losers and suckers.

    You mean the claim that comes from an 'anonymous source' which as been
    publicly refuted by people that were actually there at the time it was
    claimed Trump said it?

    Yea, let's see you try to hang your hat on that....

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Sat Nov 14 09:29:32 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    "Rudy Canoza" <js@phendrie.con> wrote in message news:GGErH.140860$MQ.140702@fx14.iad...
    On 11/13/2020 3:23 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 1:41 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 6:12 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/11/20 10:55 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    I've been seeing this *bullshit* all over Facebook today. One guy,
    someone I barely knew in jr. high and high school (but a good guy,
    anyway), posted a bunch of pics of him in uniform in about 1974. All >>>>> of our mutual FB friends dutifully — and slavishly — replied "thank >>>>> you for your service." I asked him what he did during his time in the >>>>> army. Answer? He did computer repairs.


    Any who take the oath of either enlistment or commissioning, deserve
    our respect,

    Who says they deserve our respect? *Why* do they deserve automatic
    respect?

    Because they have made a commitment to protect and defend, and to give
    their live if that is necessary.

    No. That *still* doesn't imply that automatic respect is owed.

    Yea, it does.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Scout on Sat Nov 14 09:03:19 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 11/14/20 8:28 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Rudy Canoza" <js@phendrie.con> wrote in message news:EFErH.140859$MQ.46564@fx14.iad...
    On 11/13/2020 3:20 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 1:25 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Qp-dnfbOWKn2CTPCnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com:



    Any who take the oath of either enlistment or commissioning, deserve >>>>> our respect, whether that oath is in the regular forces, or in the
    reserves.


          So why doesn't John McCain get nany respect from Trump?

    Trump and McCain aren't a part of this discussion.


    Wrong.

    Something else that's part of the discussion:  Trump calling dead GIs
    losers and suckers.

    You mean the claim that comes from an 'anonymous source' which as been publicly refuted by people that were actually there at the time it was claimed Trump said it?

    Yea, let's see you try to hang your hat on that....

    Rudy is trying to change the subject.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to d_hartung@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 14 07:17:38 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 09:03:19 -0600, David Hartung
    <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 11/14/20 8:28 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Rudy Canoza" <js@phendrie.con> wrote in message
    news:EFErH.140859$MQ.46564@fx14.iad...
    On 11/13/2020 3:20 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 1:25 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Qp-dnfbOWKn2CTPCnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com:



    Any who take the oath of either enlistment or commissioning, deserve >>>>>> our respect, whether that oath is in the regular forces, or in the >>>>>> reserves.


    So why doesn't John McCain get nany respect from Trump?

    Trump and McCain aren't a part of this discussion.


    Wrong.

    Something else that's part of the discussion: Trump calling dead GIs
    losers and suckers.

    You mean the claim that comes from an 'anonymous source' which as been
    publicly refuted by people that were actually there at the time it was
    claimed Trump said it?

    Yea, let's see you try to hang your hat on that....

    Rudy is trying to change the subject.

    Hell, Rudy is trying to ESCAPE!! LOL

    You can tell, any time he does this:

    Followup-To: talk.poltics.guns,alt.fan.rush-limbaurgh,alt.fucknozzles,soc.veterens,talk.poltics.misc

    That means someone is kicking the shit out of him, and he knows it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Scout on Sat Nov 14 08:59:36 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 11/14/2020 6:05 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Rudy Canoza" <js@phendrie.con> wrote in message news:kfArH.209282$5l1.197694@fx10.iad...
    On 11/13/2020 8:20 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 9:46 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Klaus  Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote >>>> in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to the >>>>>>> bar
    at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also >>>>>>> explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that your >>>>>>> battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your back. >>>>>

    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on
    airplanes -
    is not "service" to country.  This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a
    dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of
    battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the
    soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet >>>>> in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear >>>>> on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they >>>>> needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and
    killed for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines
    engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time,
    any place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at any >>>> moment.

    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any amount >>>> up to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod [sic]

    <chuckle>

    No US carrier has ever completed a deployment without loss of life.

    This is bullshit, of course, and scooter could not possibly be in a
    position to know such a "factiod." [sic]

    And you are in what position to know otherwise?

    To know what? That not every deployment of a carrier resulted in loss of
    life? Yes, I am in a position to know that.


    But feel free to look through any cruise book out there for a US carrier.....there is ALWAYS a section on those who died during the cruise.


    https://www.navysite.de/cruisebooks/

    First of all, there are well over 650 carrier cruise books at that site,
    and I know for an irrefutable fact that you haven't looked at all of them.
    My claim stands: you are not in a position to know that every carrier
    cruise resulted in loss of life.

    But here's where you fucked up big time, scooter. Your claim was absolute:

    "*No* US carrier has ever completed a deployment without loss of life."
    "there is *ALWAYS* a section on those who died during the cruise."

    I only need to find *one* cruise book that doesn't have an "in memoriam"
    (or "in memorial" [sic] or "in memory" [sic]) section. The *second* one I looked at did not have one, scooter. I looked at about 20 of them, and
    more than half did not have an "in memoriam" section, scooter.

    Here are a few of the ones that do not have an "in memoriam" section, scooter:

    https://www.navysite.de/cruisebooks/cvn68-78/index.html https://www.navysite.de/cruisebooks/cv66-77/index.html https://www.navysite.de/cruisebooks/cv64-01/index.html https://www.navysite.de/cruisebooks/cv47-57/index.html https://www.navysite.de/cruisebooks/cv20-68/index.html


    You lied, scooter — a really stupid, childish lie.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 14 09:37:54 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 08:26:02 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    This is settled.

    Whenever Rudy uses the words "...this is settled..." it's short
    hand for the following....


    "You have kicked my ass. An impression from your Boot of Knowledge is
    something my buttocks will carry for months. I want to leave this
    conversation now, as it is useless for me to try to convince you with
    my weak, factless arguments.

    "As a last, desperate measure, I will warm up my sock puppets and tell
    you that (a) I know more than you, (b) the subject we're 'discussing'
    has been decided at some mysterious, previous point in time, and I
    was right then, and (c) I will next forge the quoted post and tell you
    that you agree with me.

    "At this point, I will release my sock puppets into the wild, where
    they will agree that I am the smartest person who ever drew the Breath
    of Life. They will sing my praises. They will also agree with whatever
    I've said, without a single fact or cite.

    "If you persist in presenting undeniable facts that prove me wrong, I
    will alter the posts even more and pretend you are a small child so I
    can feel superior to you. There is another reason I like to pretend
    you are small child, but I don't want to get into that now. Suffice to
    say, I can type with one hand almost as fast as I can with two."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Scout on Sat Nov 14 09:26:04 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 11/14/2020 6:27 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Rudy Canoza" <js@phendrie.con> wrote in message news:cEErH.140858$MQ.29@fx14.iad...
    On 11/13/2020 3:17 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 12:28 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 8:20 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 9:46 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Klaus  Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to >>>>>>>>> the bar
    at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also >>>>>>>>> explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that >>>>>>>>> your
    battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your >>>>>>>>> back.


    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on
    airplanes -
    is not "service" to country.  This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a >>>>>>> dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of >>>>>>> battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the >>>>>>> soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet >>>>>>> in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear >>>>>>> on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they >>>>>>> needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and >>>>>> killed for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines >>>>>> engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time, >>>>>> any place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at >>>>>> any moment.

    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any
    amount up to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod [sic]

    <chuckle>

    No US carrier has ever completed a deployment without loss of life.

    This is bullshit, of course, and scooter could not possibly be in a
    position to know such a "factiod." [sic]

    You couldn't possibly know that he is wrong.

    I know that he is not in any position to know what he claims to know.

    Ok, please cite [sic] how you know that.


    That should be "say" or "state" or "explain," scooter, not "cite."

    I already did in another reply to your childish bullshit, scooter. I found
    a site that has links for the cruise books of more than 650 carrier deployments, scooter. I know for a fact that you have not looked at all
    650+ of them, scooter.

    I also know for a fact, scooter, that not all of them have an "in memoriam" section. In the sample of about 15-20 that I looked at, scooter, a little
    more than half did *NOT* have such a section, scooter.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sat Nov 14 09:42:11 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 11/14/2020 7:03 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/14/20 8:28 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Rudy Canoza" <js@phendrie.con> wrote in message
    news:EFErH.140859$MQ.46564@fx14.iad...
    On 11/13/2020 3:20 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 1:25 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Qp-dnfbOWKn2CTPCnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com:



    Any who take the oath of either enlistment or commissioning, deserve >>>>>> our respect, whether that oath is in the regular forces, or in the >>>>>> reserves.


          So why doesn't John McCain get nany respect from Trump?

    Trump and McCain aren't a part of this discussion.


    Wrong.

    Something else that's part of the discussion:  Trump calling dead GIs
    losers and suckers.

    You mean the claim that comes from an 'anonymous source' which as been
    publicly refuted by people that were actually there at the time it was
    claimed Trump said it?

    Yea, let's see you try to hang your hat on that....

    Rudy is trying to change the subject.


    No. Trump's sneer at dead military personnel is part and parcel of the discussion of whether or not military personnel are owed automatic respect merely for being or having been in the military.

    Every time you say someone is trying to change the subject, you are lying.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 14 10:13:39 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.war.vietnam, alt.military
    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On 11/14/2020 10:06 AM, a425couple wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 5:07 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 4:38 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 9:43 AM, Byker wrote:
    "David Hartung"  wrote in message
    news:Qp-dnfbOWKn2CTPCnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com...

    It is not necessary to thank a veteran, but if the thanks is sincere, it >>>>> is usually appreciated. You might also consider that this practice came >>>>> about because as a nation we are embarrassed by the poor treatment of >>>>> those who had served in Vietnam, treatment given by you, Holman and those >>>>> like you.

    And the regarding of Viet Vets as "baby killers" and walking time bombs >>>> continued right up to 9/11, when it suddenly seemed to disappear
    overnight...

    Perhaps, for those who walked around with a
    'chip on their shoulder'.  I found that since about
    90% of our age group did not serve, that most
    people assumed one had not.  The subject for
    most, just did not come up.

    But yes, after 9/11, much higher respect was
    given.

    Unwarranted.

    I'm not sure what your cryptic one word answer
    really meant, but I probably disagree.

    After 9/11 (when over 3,000 American citizens, inside
    the USA, were killed by foreigners) the average American
    citizen realized that they owed some thanks for
    their safety to the American military.

    That's really funny: the American military did *not* protect Americans'
    safety on 9/11.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 14 10:12:00 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 09:53:11 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    Whose definition is that?

    "Only losers - that is, illiterates - resort to dictionaries. "
    -Rudy Canoza, 6/14/2017

    I'm right about that. If you're educated, you don't need
    dictionaries.
    -Rudy Canoza
    -Message-ID: <4RhlH.350732$Av7.218991@fx34.iad>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Sat Nov 14 10:06:34 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.war.vietnam, alt.military
    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On 11/13/2020 5:07 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 4:38 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 9:43 AM, Byker wrote:
    "David Hartung"  wrote in message
    news:Qp-dnfbOWKn2CTPCnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com...

    It is not necessary to thank a veteran, but if the thanks is
    sincere, it
    is usually appreciated. You might also consider that this practice came >>>> about because as a nation we are embarrassed by the poor treatment of
    those who had served in Vietnam, treatment given by you, Holman and
    those
    like you.

    And the regarding of Viet Vets as "baby killers" and walking time bombs
    continued right up to 9/11, when it suddenly seemed to disappear
    overnight...

    Perhaps, for those who walked around with a
    'chip on their shoulder'.  I found that since about
    90% of our age group did not serve, that most
    people assumed one had not.  The subject for
    most, just did not come up.

    But yes, after 9/11, much higher respect was
    given.

    Unwarranted.

    I'm not sure what your cryptic one word answer
    really meant, but I probably disagree.

    After 9/11 (when over 3,000 American citizens, inside
    the USA, were killed by foreigners) the average American
    citizen realized that they owed some thanks for
    their safety to the American military.
    And extra of that respect went because it was
    a dangerous job.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 14 10:14:51 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns

    On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 09:36:32 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    Trump orders an invasion of Scotland
    to get "his" golf course back,

    Rudy erects another straw man, if only to have someone taller than he
    is to talk to.

    [chuckle]

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ted@21:1/5 to me4guns@centurylink.removeme.this2. on Sun Nov 15 04:11:23 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 09:29:32 -0500, "Scout" <me4guns@centurylink.removeme.this2.net> wrote:
    "Rudy Canoza" <js@phendrie.con> wrote in message news:GGErH.140860$MQ.140702@fx14.iad...
    On 11/13/2020 3:23 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 1:41 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 6:12 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/11/20 10:55 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    I've been seeing this *bullshit* all over Facebook today.
    One guy,
    someone I barely knew in jr. high and high school (but a good
    guy,
    anyway), posted a bunch of pics of him in uniform in about
    1974. All
    of our mutual FB friends dutifully  and slavishly  replied
    "thank
    you for your service." I asked him what he did during his
    time in the
    army. Answer? He did computer repairs.


    Any who take the oath of either enlistment or commissioning,
    deserve
    our respect,

    Who says they deserve our respect? *Why* do they deserve
    automatic
    respect?

    Because they have made a commitment to protect and defend, and
    to give
    their live if that is necessary.

    No. That *still* doesn't imply that automatic respect is owed.


    Yea, it does.


    No it doesn't.

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to me4guns@centurylink.removeme.this2. on Sun Nov 15 04:14:18 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 09:28:56 -0500, "Scout" <me4guns@centurylink.removeme.this2.net> wrote:
    "Rudy Canoza" <js@phendrie.con> wrote in message news:EFErH.140859$MQ.46564@fx14.iad...
    On 11/13/2020 3:20 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 1:25 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:Qp-dnfbOWKn2CTPCnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com:



    Any who take the oath of either enlistment or commissioning,
    deserve
    our respect, whether that oath is in the regular forces, or in
    the
    reserves.


    So why doesn't John McCain get nany respect from Trump?

    Trump and McCain aren't a part of this discussion.


    Wrong.

    Something else that's part of the discussion: Trump calling dead
    GIs
    losers and suckers.


    You mean the claim that comes from an 'anonymous source' which as
    been
    publicly refuted by people that were actually there at the time it
    was
    claimed Trump said it?


    Stop lying. Nobody refuted it. Nobody denied it.

    Yea, let's see you try to hang your hat on that....


    Let's see you stop lying.

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Sun Nov 15 04:17:38 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.war.vietnam, alt.military
    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 10:06:34 -0800, a425couple
    <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 5:07 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 4:38 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 9:43 AM, Byker wrote:
    "David Hartung" wrote in message
    news:Qp-dnfbOWKn2CTPCnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com...

    It is not necessary to thank a veteran, but if the thanks is
    sincere, it
    is usually appreciated. You might also consider that this
    practice came
    about because as a nation we are embarrassed by the poor
    treatment of
    those who had served in Vietnam, treatment given by you,
    Holman and
    those
    like you.

    And the regarding of Viet Vets as "baby killers" and walking
    time bombs
    continued right up to 9/11, when it suddenly seemed to disappear
    overnight...

    Perhaps, for those who walked around with a
    'chip on their shoulder'. I found that since about
    90% of our age group did not serve, that most
    people assumed one had not. The subject for
    most, just did not come up.

    But yes, after 9/11, much higher respect was
    given.

    Unwarranted.


    I'm not sure what your cryptic one word answer
    really meant,


    Because you're a tard.

    but I probably disagree.


    Because you're a tard.

    After 9/11 (when over 3,000 American citizens, inside
    the USA, were killed by foreigners) the average American
    citizen realized that they owed some thanks for
    their safety to the American military.


    Yep. The military prevented the ragheads from flying planes into the
    WTC. Dumbass.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to Ted on Sun Nov 15 04:55:02 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:11:23 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com> wrote:


    No it doesn't.

    You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.

    "Honestly, I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion."
    -"Ted" Message-ID: <HEZKB.118484$ts1.49449@fx12.am4>

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  • From Bud Frawley@21:1/5 to Ted on Sun Nov 15 08:54:14 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.war.vietnam, alt.military
    XPost: talk.politics.misc

    On 11/15/2020 1:17 AM, Ted wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 10:06:34 -0800, a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 5:07 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 4:38 PM, a425couple wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 9:43 AM, Byker wrote:
    "David Hartung" wrote in message
    news:Qp-dnfbOWKn2CTPCnZ2dnUU7-XfNnZ2d@giganews.com...

    It is not necessary to thank a veteran, but if the thanks is >>>>
    sincere, it
    is usually appreciated. You might also consider that this
    practice came
    about because as a nation we are embarrassed by the poor
    treatment of
    those who had served in Vietnam, treatment given by you,
    Holman and
    those
    like you.

    And the regarding of Viet Vets as "baby killers" and walking
    time bombs
    continued right up to 9/11, when it suddenly seemed to disappear
    overnight...

    Perhaps, for those who walked around with a
    'chip on their shoulder'. I found that since about
    90% of our age group did not serve, that most
    people assumed one had not. The subject for
    most, just did not come up.

    But yes, after 9/11, much higher respect was
    given.
    Unwarranted.


    I'm not sure what your cryptic one word answer
    really meant,


    Because you're a tard.

    but I probably disagree.


    Because you're a tard.

    +1


    After 9/11 (when over 3,000 American citizens, inside
    the USA, were killed by foreigners) the average American
    citizen realized that they owed some thanks for
    their safety to the American military.


    Yep. The military prevented the ragheads from flying planes into the WTC. Dumbass.

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Sun Nov 15 10:58:52 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 11/14/2020 8:59 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/14/2020 6:05 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Rudy Canoza" <js@phendrie.con> wrote in message
    news:kfArH.209282$5l1.197694@fx10.iad...
    On 11/13/2020 8:20 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 9:46 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Klaus  Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com>
    wrote in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to >>>>>>>> the bar
    at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also >>>>>>>> explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that your >>>>>>>> battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your >>>>>>>> back.


    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on
    airplanes -
    is not "service" to country.  This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a
    dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of >>>>>> battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet
    (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the
    soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet >>>>>> in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear >>>>>> on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they >>>>>> needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and >>>>> killed for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines >>>>> engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time, >>>>> any place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at any >>>>> moment.

    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any
    amount up to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod [sic]

    <chuckle>

    No US carrier has ever completed a deployment without loss of life.

    This is bullshit, of course, and scooter could not possibly be in a
    position to know such a "factiod." [sic]

    And you are in what position to know otherwise?

    To know what?  That not every deployment of a carrier resulted in loss of life?  Yes, I am in a position to know that.


    But feel free to look through any cruise book out there for a US
    carrier.....there is ALWAYS a section on those who died during the cruise. >>

    https://www.navysite.de/cruisebooks/

    First of all, there are well over 650 carrier cruise books at that site,
    and I know for an irrefutable fact that you haven't looked at all of them.

    Well, scooter?

     My claim stands:  you are not in a position to know that every carrier cruise resulted in loss of life.

    But here's where you fucked up big time, scooter.  Your claim was absolute:

      "*No* US carrier has ever completed a deployment without loss of life."
      "there is *ALWAYS* a section on those who died during the cruise."

    I only need to find *one* cruise book that doesn't have an "in memoriam"
    (or "in memorial" [sic] or "in memory" [sic]) section.  The *second* one I looked at did not have one, scooter.  I looked at about 20 of them, and
    more than half did not have an "in memoriam" section, scooter.

    Here are a few of the ones that do not have an "in memoriam" section, scooter:

    https://www.navysite.de/cruisebooks/cvn68-78/index.html https://www.navysite.de/cruisebooks/cv66-77/index.html https://www.navysite.de/cruisebooks/cv64-01/index.html https://www.navysite.de/cruisebooks/cv47-57/index.html https://www.navysite.de/cruisebooks/cv20-68/index.html

    Well, scooter? Obviously you lied in saying "*No* US carrier has ever completed a deployment without loss of life," and then citing the cruise
    books as "proof," because I quickly found several that do *not* have an "in memoriam" section, which you further claimed there "always" would be if any sailors lost their lives during the deployment.



    You lied, scooter — a really stupid, childish lie.

    Well, scooter?

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 15 11:38:25 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 10:58:52 -0800, Rudy Canoza <j_carlson@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    First of all, there are well over 650 carrier cruise books at that site,
    and I know for an irrefutable fact that you haven't looked at all of them.

    Well, scooter?

    Yep. He's right.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 16 07:43:16 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 07:24:10 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    No, scooter, it isn't. This is settled.

    Annnnnnnd.... Rudy gives up.

    [chuckle]

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 16 07:42:24 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 07:19:53 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    This is settled, scooter.


    Why do you always say this when you're losing?



    [crickets.wav] ( 2020 All Rights Reserved)



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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 16 12:11:47 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 09:26:04 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
    wrote:

    On 11/14/2020 6:27 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Rudy Canoza" <js@phendrie.con> wrote in message
    news:cEErH.140858$MQ.29@fx14.iad...
    On 11/13/2020 3:17 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 12:28 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 11/13/2020 8:20 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 11/13/20 9:46 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote in message news:pd5tqf1ahcatkj0r3puejs2hbcv1j4sh2n@4ax.com... >>>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:27:23 -0800, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 11/12/2020 9:50 PM, Leper wrote:
    I recommend that you trot your scrawny smelly little ass down to >>>>>>>>>> the bar
    at the local VFW or American legion and inform them of this. Also >>>>>>>>>> explain your draft dodging during the Vietnam war. Tell them that >>>>>>>>>> your
    battle flag is brilliant yellow. Same color as the stripe on your >>>>>>>>>> back.


    Being in the military - greasing the landing gear bearings on >>>>>>>>> airplanes -
    is not "service" to country. This is settled.

    Rudy's problem (well, ONE of his problems) is that he can't use a >>>>>>>> dictionary so he has no idea what "service" actually means.

    He thinks that unless you actually bayoneted a Nazi in the heat of >>>>>>>> battle, you weren't "serving" your country.

    He's too stupid to understand that

    (a) someone had to supply the soldier with a rifle and bayonet >>>>>>>> (b) someone had to feed and clothe the soldier
    (c) someone had to transport the soldier
    (d) someone had to furnish and take care of all the equipment the >>>>>>>> soldier uses
    (e) someone had to decide where the Nazis were that needed a bayonet >>>>>>>> in their guts
    (f) someone had to train the soldier how to bayonet the Nazi
    (g) and, yes, someone had to grease the bearings of the landing gear >>>>>>>> on the airplane that carried the men and the equipment to where they >>>>>>>> needed to be.

    THIS is what's "settled."

    Further, every one of those people are subject to being attacked and >>>>>>> killed for their service, they may find themselves on the front lines >>>>>>> engaged in fighting at any time, and conflict can occur at any time, >>>>>>> any place and with little or no warning. They may be reassigned at >>>>>>> any moment.

    As Pearl Harbor, Beirut, and the USS Cole would illustrate.

    A vet is someone who handed the government a blank check for any >>>>>>> amount up to and including their life.

    Interesting Factiod [sic]

    <chuckle>

    No US carrier has ever completed a deployment without loss of life. >>>>>
    This is bullshit, of course, and scooter could not possibly be in a
    position to know such a "factiod." [sic]

    You couldn't possibly know that he is wrong.

    I know that he is not in any position to know what he claims to know.

    Ok, please cite [sic] how you know that.


    That should be "say" or "state" or "explain," scooter, not "cite."

    If you knew how to use a dictionary, you'd know "cite" is perfectly
    acceptable. It makes you look like more of an idiot for NOT being able
    to look it up to see this. And it makes you look like a COMPLETE idiot
    for complaining about it.

    But.....

    When you whine like an abused schoolgirl to cover up the fact that
    Scout caught you lying-- again-- it CONFIRMS that you're a complete
    idiot.

    I know for a fact that you have not looked at all

    Hope.
    Wish
    Predict.
    Personally believe.

    But you do not know "for a fact."

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmai on Mon Nov 16 21:52:52 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:55:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:11:23 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:




    No it doesn't.


    You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.


    "Honestly, I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion."
    -"Ted" Message-ID: <HEZKB.118484$ts1.49449@fx12.am4>


    I dare you to step across this line, Klaus:

    _______________________________________

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  • From Bud Frawley@21:1/5 to Ted on Mon Nov 16 20:52:26 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 11/16/2020 6:52 PM, Ted wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:55:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:11:23 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:




    No it doesn't.


    You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.


    "Honestly, I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion."
    -"Ted" Message-ID: <HEZKB.118484$ts1.49449@fx12.am4>


    I dare you to step across this line, Klaus:

    _______________________________________

    I notice the coward chickened out.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to Ted on Tue Nov 17 04:08:21 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 21:52:52 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:55:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude ><klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:11:23 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:




    No it doesn't.


    You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.


    "Honestly, I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion."
    -"Ted" Message-ID: <HEZKB.118484$ts1.49449@fx12.am4>


    I dare you to step across this line, Klaus:

    _______________________________________

    You're too fucking stupid to be making threats."

    "I'm just so stupid that it always seems like I'm drunk."
    - Ted
    Message-ID: <743699333567795429.886393ted-sam.street@news.alt.net>

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to bud_frowley2@aggregoat.con on Tue Nov 17 04:11:05 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 20:52:26 -0800, Bud Frawley
    <bud_frowley2@aggregoat.con> wrote:

    On 11/16/2020 6:52 PM, Ted wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:55:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
    <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:11:23 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:




    No it doesn't.


    You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.


    "Honestly, I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion."
    -"Ted" Message-ID: <HEZKB.118484$ts1.49449@fx12.am4>


    I dare you to step across this line, Klaus:

    _______________________________________

    I notice the coward chickened out.


    The Wit and Wisdom Of Bud Frawley

    a shot gun [sic] has only 1 purpose! to KILL!

    thnak's [sic] for proveing [sic] what a moron look's [sic] like!

    when a black person comes to a bad end at the hands of
    a white person that's what raceism [sic] is!

    weapon's [sic] have no place in a civalized [sic] society!no
    weapon's no crime!I guess you ca'nt [sic] figure that out!

    self defense should be illegle [sic] when it mean's [sic] black's
    [sic] get shot every chance you get

    I guess you never heard of the constitution in home school!

    when a criminal get's [sic] caught with heroin
    guess what? he get's [sic] locked up!that's why most criminal's [sic]
    do'nt [sic] use heroin! the same would happen with gun's! [sic]
    criminal's do'nt [sic] want to get cauight [sic] so they leave there
    gun's [sic] home or sometime's [sic] in the trunk!

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue Nov 17 09:03:08 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On 11/17/20 7:11 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 20:52:26 -0800, Bud Frawley
    <bud_frowley2@aggregoat.con> wrote:

    On 11/16/2020 6:52 PM, Ted wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:55:02 -0800, Klaus  Schadenfreude
    <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:11:23 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:




    No it doesn't.


    You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.


    "Honestly, I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion."
    -"Ted" Message-ID: <HEZKB.118484$ts1.49449@fx12.am4>


    I dare you to step across this line, Klaus:

    _______________________________________

    I notice the coward chickened out.


    The Wit and Wisdom Of Bud Frawley

    a shot gun [sic] has only 1 purpose! to KILL!

    thnak's [sic] for proveing [sic] what a moron look's [sic] like!

    when a black person comes to a bad end at the hands of
    a white person that's what raceism [sic] is!

    weapon's [sic] have no place in a civalized [sic] society!no
    weapon's no crime!I guess you ca'nt [sic] figure that out!

    self defense should be illegle [sic] when it mean's [sic] black's
    [sic] get shot every chance you get

    I guess you never heard of the constitution in home school!

    when a criminal get's [sic] caught with heroin
    guess what? he get's [sic] locked up!that's why most criminal's [sic]
    do'nt [sic] use heroin! the same would happen with gun's! [sic]
    criminal's do'nt [sic] want to get cauight [sic] so they leave there
    gun's [sic] home or sometime's [sic] in the trunk!

    You do realize that Frawley is Rudy, right?

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmai on Tue Nov 17 09:28:35 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 04:08:21 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 21:52:52 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:


    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:55:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude ><klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:11:23 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:




    No it doesn't.


    You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.


    "Honestly, I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion."
    -"Ted" Message-ID: <HEZKB.118484$ts1.49449@fx12.am4>


    I dare you to step across this line, Klaus:

    _______________________________________


    You're too fucking stupid to be making threats."


    "I'm just so stupid that it always seems like I'm drunk."
    - Ted
    Message-ID:
    <743699333567795429.886393ted-sam.street@news.alt.net>


    LOL. Looks like I gotta watch what I say around you.

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to bud_frowley2@aggregoat.con on Tue Nov 17 09:26:31 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 20:52:26 -0800, Bud Frawley
    <bud_frowley2@aggregoat.con> wrote:
    On 11/16/2020 6:52 PM, Ted wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:55:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:11:23 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:




    No it doesn't.


    You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.


    "Honestly, I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion."
    -"Ted" Message-ID: <HEZKB.118484$ts1.49449@fx12.am4>


    I dare you to step across this line, Klaus:

    _______________________________________


    I notice the coward chickened out.


    Of course. He won't be handing us any more crap, now that he knows we
    won't put up with it.

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmai on Tue Nov 17 09:30:08 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 04:11:05 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 20:52:26 -0800, Bud Frawley
    <bud_frowley2@aggregoat.con> wrote:


    On 11/16/2020 6:52 PM, Ted wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:55:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
    <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:11:23 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:




    No it doesn't.


    You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.


    "Honestly, I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion."
    -"Ted" Message-ID: <HEZKB.118484$ts1.49449@fx12.am4>


    I dare you to step across this line, Klaus:

    _______________________________________

    I notice the coward chickened out.




    The Wit and Wisdom Of Bud Frawley


    a shot gun [sic] has only 1 purpose! to KILL!


    thnak's [sic] for proveing [sic] what a moron look's [sic] like!


    when a black person comes to a bad end at the hands of
    a white person that's what raceism [sic] is!


    weapon's [sic] have no place in a civalized [sic] society!no
    weapon's no crime!I guess you ca'nt [sic] figure that out!


    self defense should be illegle [sic] when it mean's [sic] black's
    [sic] get shot every chance you get


    I guess you never heard of the constitution in home school!


    when a criminal get's [sic] caught with heroin
    guess what? he get's [sic] locked up!that's why most criminal's
    [sic]
    do'nt [sic] use heroin! the same would happen with gun's! [sic]
    criminal's do'nt [sic] want to get cauight [sic] so they leave
    there
    gun's [sic] home or sometime's [sic] in the trunk!


    Bud is first class.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to Ted on Tue Nov 17 07:34:41 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:28:35 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 04:08:21 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude ><klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 21:52:52 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:


    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:55:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
    <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:11:23 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:




    No it doesn't.


    You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.


    "Honestly, I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion."
    -"Ted" Message-ID: <HEZKB.118484$ts1.49449@fx12.am4>


    I dare you to step across this line, Klaus:

    _______________________________________


    You're too fucking stupid to be making threats."


    "I'm just so stupid that it always seems like I'm drunk."
    - Ted
    Message-ID:
    <743699333567795429.886393ted-sam.street@news.alt.net>


    LOL. Looks like I gotta watch what I say around you.

    Wouldn't it be easier to just stop being stupid?

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to Ted on Tue Nov 17 07:33:39 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:30:08 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 04:11:05 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude ><klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 20:52:26 -0800, Bud Frawley
    <bud_frowley2@aggregoat.con> wrote:


    On 11/16/2020 6:52 PM, Ted wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:55:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
    <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:11:23 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:




    No it doesn't.


    You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.


    "Honestly, I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion."
    -"Ted" Message-ID: <HEZKB.118484$ts1.49449@fx12.am4>


    I dare you to step across this line, Klaus:

    _______________________________________

    I notice the coward chickened out.




    The Wit and Wisdom Of Bud Frawley


    a shot gun [sic] has only 1 purpose! to KILL!


    thnak's [sic] for proveing [sic] what a moron look's [sic] like!


    when a black person comes to a bad end at the hands of
    a white person that's what raceism [sic] is!


    weapon's [sic] have no place in a civalized [sic] society!no
    weapon's no crime!I guess you ca'nt [sic] figure that out!


    self defense should be illegle [sic] when it mean's [sic] black's
    [sic] get shot every chance you get


    I guess you never heard of the constitution in home school!


    when a criminal get's [sic] caught with heroin
    guess what? he get's [sic] locked up!that's why most criminal's
    [sic]
    do'nt [sic] use heroin! the same would happen with gun's! [sic]
    criminal's do'nt [sic] want to get cauight [sic] so they leave
    there
    gun's [sic] home or sometime's [sic] in the trunk!


    Bud is first class.

    Bud isn't even economy coach.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Schadenfreude" on Tue Nov 17 11:30:58 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote in message news:tar7rf1f3hau0m9t1krsri13qpi936pcgq@4ax.com...
    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:28:35 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 04:08:21 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude >><klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 21:52:52 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:


    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:55:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
    <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:11:23 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:




    No it doesn't.


    You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.


    "Honestly, I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion."
    -"Ted" Message-ID: <HEZKB.118484$ts1.49449@fx12.am4>


    I dare you to step across this line, Klaus:

    _______________________________________


    You're too fucking stupid to be making threats."


    "I'm just so stupid that it always seems like I'm drunk."
    - Ted
    Message-ID:
    <743699333567795429.886393ted-sam.street@news.alt.net>


    LOL. Looks like I gotta watch what I say around you.

    Wouldn't it be easier to just stop being stupid?

    How exactly could he become smarter????

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmai on Tue Nov 17 18:36:21 2020
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, talk.politics.misc

    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 07:34:41 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:28:35 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:


    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 04:08:21 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude ><klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 21:52:52 -0500, Ted <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:


    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:55:02 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
    <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:11:23 -0500, Ted
    <tedandalice@gmail.com>
    wrote:




    No it doesn't.


    You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion.


    "Honestly, I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion."
    -"Ted" Message-ID: <HEZKB.118484$ts1.49449@fx12.am4>


    I dare you to step across this line, Klaus:

    _______________________________________


    You're too fucking stupid to be making threats."


    "I'm just so stupid that it always seems like I'm drunk."
    - Ted
    Message-ID:
    <743699333567795429.886393ted-sam.street@news.alt.net>


    LOL. Looks like I gotta watch what I say around you.


    Wouldn't it be easier to just stop being stupid?


    LOL!

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