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marketwatch July 29 2019
I built a nest egg of $1 million and I'm only 46 - so why Do I still
spend my working hours worrying?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/i-built-a-nest-egg-of-1-million-and-im-only-46-but-i-spend-my-waking-hours-worrying-2019-07-27


I built a nest egg of $1 million and I’m only 46 — so why do I still
spend my waking hours worrying?

Published: July 29, 2019 2:22 p.m. ET


‘We massed our savings all on our own, without an adviser’

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QUENTIN
FOTTRELL
PERSONAL FINANCE EDITOR


Dear Moneyist,

Over the past 25 years, my wife, 47, and I, 46, have both held
professional careers, making well above the average income. Our home,
purchased in 1998 for $84,000, and after $50,000 plus of upgrades and
additions, is valued at $185,000. We have invested our money, maxing
out 401(k)s and IRAs (including Roth IRAs) when we could.

We have made investing mistakes, but learned from them. We have over
$1 million in investments for ourselves, an additional $50,000 in
investments for our two girls to be used for college.
We have made investing mistakes, but we have learned from them. All
told, we currently have over $1 million in investments for ourselves,
an additional $50,000 in investments (529s and a Scottrade TD, +0.26%
custodial account) for our two girls to be used for college, with our
only debt being the final few years of our mortgage. We have never had
credit-card debt. I will also point out we both started with nothing —
literally.

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So far, you may not think we have a problem. But we do. I spend a lot
of my waking hours worrying. In 2017, as we approached the $1 million
dollar milestone, the realization that our retirement is only nine
years away (when I turn 55 in 2027) really hit me. I will point out
now that we amassed our savings all on our own, without an adviser.

I anticipate to have $2 million. How do we handle that legacy? What
vehicle can we use, such as a trust, to ensure that money lasts not
just with our kids, but multiple generations?
Here is our problem: By the time we retire in early 2027, we should
have about $2 million in investments. We plan on living conservatively
as we do now, with the majority of our time spent traveling. I
anticipate that we will live on less than our accounts make, and that
$2 million will grow even more.


Without throwing out what I think that number might be at the end of
our life, my point is how do we handle that legacy? What vehicle can
we use, such as a trust, to ensure that money lasts not just with our
kids, but multiple generations? How do we handle estate planning with
emphasis on reducing or forgoing death taxes?

Next Steps in Peoria, Ill.

Dear Next Steps,

You have lived within your means and even managed to buy a home before
the property bubble — not an altogether common feat for someone in
their mid-40s. Not only have you invested wisely and across a variety
of products, you are now thinking about how you can make this $1
million or $2 million work … for other people. And not just your own
children, but your children’s children. Bravo!

Delaying retirement for just three to six months does to the standard
of living after retiring what an entire percentage point of 30 years
of earnings would do.
Of course, you should also give yourself a break and not lie away
worrying when you have done so much and worked so hard. But that’s
where the Moneyist comes in. If you don’t have to work beyond 57 and
you want to travel the world, fine. But be aware that the later you
retire, the higher your benefits will be. (Social Security benefits
are lower if you retire before your full retirement age.)

Delaying retirement for just three to six months can have a big
effect, raising the standard of living after you retire to the same
degree that an entire percentage point of 30 years of earnings would,
according to a recent report from researchers at Stanford University,
George Mason University, Cornerstone Research and Financial Engines.
“The relative power of saving more is even lower if the decision to
increase saving is made later in the work life,” it says.

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An irrevocable trust is one option, but you should consult a financial
adviser on the tax implications, which may vary from state to state.
Here is a checklist for you to consider. In 2019, the unified federal
gift and estate tax exemption is $11.4 million or $22.8 million for a
married couple, so you don’t have to worry about that unless you have
a really lucky break.

“Tax laws change all the time and an estate plan should be reviewed
every five years or so to make sure it is still efficient and
effective in transferring assets to the next generations,” says Jim
Todd, a client adviser with Mercer Advisors in Boulder, Col. “A
complete estate plan package should also include documents such as
powers of attorney, HIPAA authorization and medical directives.”

You should also be cognizant of how a deterioration in your health
and/or an unexpected life event, such as an accident, could suddenly
change everything.
“A trust set up in your will or living trust is called a testamentary
trust. It is irrevocable upon your death,” he adds. “The children will >> have to abide by its terms so care must be taken to allow them some
flexibility, but not so flexible that they have unlimited access to
the trust funds, if the parents’ main goal is to make the funds last
several generations.” It could last for many decades.

You should also be cognizant of how a deterioration in your health
and/or an unexpected life event, such as an accident, could suddenly
change everything, as could a dip in the stock market after a
nine-year bull market. (Premiums for Medicare are also changing.) They
also recommend financial education for your children and long-term
care insurance for you and your wife.

I hope this helps. You need a road map, some advice and a full night’s
sleep.

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QUENTIN
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Quentin Fottrell is MarketWatch's personal-finance editor and The
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Sounds like you have done a good job thus far.  Retire at 55, I would
advise against it.

I assume like most you will be dependent on SS as a major part of your retirement income.  In that case, you need to max out what your benefit
will be.  That requires working a bit longer to age 62 or better yet 65.

My advice is, visit with the SS Administration and figure out what your benefit is likely to be at age 62, 65, and 70.  If that plus any other income you will have in retirement will provide you with the standard of living you desire in retirement then let that be your guide.  This will allow you to keep your investments invested.

As for how to protect those investments setting up trusts are a very
good way to do it.  Check with a competent estate planner whom is also a Fiduciary.
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I have a few observations.

$50k is not enough for 2 kids & college.  Even if they go to state
schools, you will need $200k (unless you plan on them living in a
dumpster and begging for food while they study).
Why 'retire' at 55?  Do something anyway (does not have to be the same job).  Otherwise, you will get sick quickly and die.
You BETTER plan for less return on your money because of HYPERINFLATION
in 2024. It is pretty clear that should the political pendulum swing
left (as it has 100% of the time) expect a left-wing nut for president
and liberal house and senate AND multi trillion dollar deficits. Because
even if Trump wins in 2020, it is clear that 100% of the Democrat
candidates favor spending trillions on green deals, free health ins for illegals, open borders, reparations and universal income.  These
freebies can ONLY be paid for by 'printing' money, but that will not
stop your taxes from going into the stratosphere, and the value of ALL
of your dollar dominated assets to plummet in value.  And that means
.... LESS return.

Enjoy.
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$50k not enough for college??? All of us who got $0 from our
parents...or were even charged rent by our parents while in
college...are laughing at that statement. It's enough to pay for a
local state school while living at home and still get out debt free.
Add in another $15k if you are in a high cost of living state like NY.
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Yes, if you assume your kids will work, or live at home the numbers
change. But if the kids don't live at home, and you don't want their
studies to be distracted by burger flipping, then the numbers don't
change. Been there, done it (with 2 kids).
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Kudos for amassing significant dollars - clearly this team Is focused.
Retiring at 55 a heavy lift without retiree medical benefits prior to
Medicare. My wife premium is 13k a year.

Another consideration...... live in the Indy area and over the past year
two retirees moved here from Chicago suburbs. They did not wait for the
"tax shoe to drop" due to the dismal state finances. Might consider Iowa/Indiana as friendlier heavens for retirees and still be close to
home. Again - excellent progress on your retirement. I went at 60 and absolutely love it!!
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Very few U.S. households have $1 million or more in investable assets
(not including one's home) -- about 11 million households.
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Worried about having a Million dollars - give it away then you won't
have to worry about having a million dollars!
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you ONLY have $1 million... and you're talking about a 'legacy' and
multiple generations??? Wake up - not a lot of money... you're in
America - which has a disastrous healthcare system until you qualify for medicare at 65... even if it doubles to $2 million - that may be ok for
YOU to live off after 65, but otherwise start considering the ridiculous
'FIRE' retirement and work part time... etc. My advice - if you're not
in a career you like or you're job is hard - find a cushier one - with
health care - and start enjoying life... continue saving 10%+, leave it
in the market knowing you have 10 yrs to recover if it tanks and get...
as for being in 40's and having $1million - Been there done that...and more...and I see no reason to retire early yet
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getting from 1 to 2 million in 9 years? maybe, maybe not. what about
college costs for two kids? $50K won't come close to covering it. while leaving rat race early may sound appealing, -you may decide it is not
the best option once you get to 55. worrying won't help things -it only
leads to unnecessary stress. do the best you can, enjoy life too while
you're at it ....and good luck...
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$2 million at retirement may s
$2 million at retirement may seem a lot but its not. You have to look at
how much money $2 million can generate without placing it at risk. Its different when you retire and if its the $2 million that you are relying
on and its invested 100% in the stock mkt = potential for big loss if
the mkt ever tanks and we get another +50% decline like what happened in 2008-09. At 55, they don't qualify for SS & it sounds like they don't
have a defined pension so $2 million is all they have, provided that the
mkt doesn't tank in the next 7 yrs. What are the scenarios at 55?
Shift the $2 million from equities to fixed investments, assume they can generate 2% interest, would only give them $40K income, which is
probably < what they are spending now.
#1 + use some of the principal to cover the income difference lost @
retirement
Go 50% equities & 50% fixed. This would only generate $20K in fix
income, so they would have to use principal to cover the difference.

Based on the analysis above, they need to keep working to get to at
least $4 million to generate $80K in safe income, unless of course they
can live on the net of $40K -minus taxes. Unfortunately, based on my
analysis they still need to keep working. Unless of course we keep
getting big returns in the stock mkt in the next 7 years. Good luck & congratulations on breaking $1 million mark.
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at $40K, they probably won't pay any taxes or very little. With a paid
off house and no debt, they could live on $40K.
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Good point. We live on a tad less than $50k a year in California. Our
home is paid off and our biggest expense every year is property tax.
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Big watch out in Illinois - taxe increases. Talking about increasing
already high property tax in addition to becoming a handful of states
taxing Social Security.
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