• Lisa Littman just released her "detransition" study and f*cked it up

    From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 20 17:11:00 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman has created more pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from
    Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust
    data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never
    even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey
    to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia,
    as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender
    dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word: bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted
    by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it
    here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf

    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come
    from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5
    minutes of fame!

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Wed Oct 20 18:39:23 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and
    marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every
    host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from
    Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust
    data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never
    even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey
    to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia,
    as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender
    dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word: >bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted
    by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it >here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf

    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come
    from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5
    minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless,
    sunshine!
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Oct 21 17:25:00 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 10/20/21 5:39 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and
    marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every
    host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.


    You back to a Jewish conspiracy theories when you are afraid of the
    truth. To you, *anything* that does brush your beliefs even a bit is a
    leftist conspiracy.

    To make matters different, she is actually a transphobe, just like you
    are. You *choose* to be ignorant and should you realize you're
    transgender, you would go to a non-affirming therapists despite lack of evidence that anything besides gender-affirmation works.

    If it's scary for you, then you're severely misinformed. You cannot
    trust right-wing media when it comes to transgender issues. Transgender
    regret is *way* overblown in right-wing media and I'd rather take a 2%
    chance of regret over experimenting with unproven crankery from http://reddit.com/r/detrans/. There is a reason why "alternative
    treatments for gender dysphoria" are called _alternative_ - there is
    simply *no* evidence that they work.

    Gender therapists aren't all that scary - those who smear them are
    idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from
    Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust
    data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never
    even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey
    to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia,
    as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender
    dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word:
    bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted
    by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it
    here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf >>
    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come >>from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5
    minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless,
    sunshine!

    What about cisgender people who are trans allies? Dr. Z PhD is an example.

    I'm myself going to a gender-affirming therapy and honestly, claims of
    just affirming an individual as-it-is are nothing more than first-grade bullshit. There are two types of people: those who support
    gender-affirming care and those who are idiots (like you).

    Gender Dysphoria Affirmative Working Group https://www.gdaworkinggroup.com/

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/



    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Thu Oct 21 23:27:31 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:25:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/20/21 5:39 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and
    marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every
    host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.


    You back to a Jewish conspiracy theories when you are afraid of the
    truth. To you, *anything* that does brush your beliefs even a bit is a >leftist conspiracy.

    You dismiss DNA reality because you are afraid of your delusions being
    exposed as such. To you, any truth or exposure of your delusions is
    a rightist conspiracy.

    To make matters different, she is actually a transphobe, just like you
    are. You *choose* to be ignorant and should you realize you're
    transgender, you would go to a non-affirming therapists despite lack of >evidence that anything besides gender-affirmation works.

    If 'transbenders' as opposed to female impersonators actually existed,
    you might have a case for 'transphobia', but they don't.

    If it's scary for you, then you're severely misinformed. You cannot
    trust right-wing media when it comes to transgender issues. Transgender >regret is *way* overblown in right-wing media and I'd rather take a 2%
    chance of regret over experimenting with unproven crankery from >http://reddit.com/r/detrans/. There is a reason why "alternative
    treatments for gender dysphoria" are called _alternative_ - there is
    simply *no* evidence that they work.

    You cannot trust left-wing 'woke' media when it comes to 'transbender'
    issues. There is no such thing as 'gender dysphoria' separate from
    'gender appropriation'.

    Gender therapists aren't all that scary - those who smear them are
    idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

    'Gender therapists' are quacks and chalatans. Those who trust them are
    gullible and vulnerable assholes.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from
    Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust
    data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never
    even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey >>> to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia, >>> as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender
    dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word: >>> bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted
    by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it >>> here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf >>>
    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come >>>from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5
    minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless,
    sunshine!

    What about cisgender people who are trans allies? Dr. Z PhD is an example.

    'Woke' assholes.

    I'm myself going to a gender-affirming therapy and honestly, claims of
    just affirming an individual as-it-is are nothing more than first-grade >bullshit. There are two types of people: those who support
    gender-affirming care and those who are idiots (like you).

    Gender Dysphoria Affirmative Working Group https://www.gdaworkinggroup.com/

    There are actually two types of males: normal people and delusional
    female impersonators (like you).
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Oct 23 15:21:00 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 10/21/21 10:27 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:25:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/20/21 5:39 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and
    marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every
    host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.


    You back to a Jewish conspiracy theories when you are afraid of the
    truth. To you, *anything* that does brush your beliefs even a bit is a
    leftist conspiracy.

    You dismiss DNA reality because you are afraid of your delusions being exposed as such. To you, any truth or exposure of your delusions is
    a rightist conspiracy.

    Gender identity is imprinted in your brain during pregnancy through
    hormones you get exposed to. My brain was probably bombarded with
    estrogen while I was here inside my mom (which unfortunately passed away
    long time ago).

    To make matters different, she is actually a transphobe, just like you
    are. You *choose* to be ignorant and should you realize you're
    transgender, you would go to a non-affirming therapists despite lack of
    evidence that anything besides gender-affirmation works.

    If 'transbenders' as opposed to female impersonators actually existed,
    you might have a case for 'transphobia', but they don't.

    Yes, and gender dysphoria is evidence of that. Not all trans people are dysphoric, though. have you ever read WPATH Standards of Care?
    Conservatives like you are unable to logically refute it.

    If it's scary for you, then you're severely misinformed. You cannot
    trust right-wing media when it comes to transgender issues. Transgender
    regret is *way* overblown in right-wing media and I'd rather take a 2%
    chance of regret over experimenting with unproven crankery from
    http://reddit.com/r/detrans/. There is a reason why "alternative
    treatments for gender dysphoria" are called _alternative_ - there is
    simply *no* evidence that they work.

    You cannot trust left-wing 'woke' media when it comes to 'transbender' issues. There is no such thing as 'gender dysphoria' separate from
    'gender appropriation'.


    Bullshit. People were gender dysphoric since the beginning of time. It's
    just that people with it were repressed in modern Western world.

    It's better to go with stuff that has been proven to work rather than experiment with alternative methods that *might* work. The methods of
    coping with GD from http://reddit.com/r/detrans might work, but they
    only do until they don't work and the victims of this fucked up webshite
    will end up with even greater regrets because their bodies have masculinized/feminized beyond all hope.

    They are *mostly* transgender people who ignore the scientific consensus
    on being transgender and repress their identities. If you don't believe
    me, there is evidence:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qd31pn/i_could_really_use_some_advice_that_doesnt/

    Need more?

    Gender therapists aren't all that scary - those who smear them are
    idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

    'Gender therapists' are quacks and chalatans. Those who trust them are gullible and vulnerable assholes.

    Depends which gender therapist you pick. Some are outright idiots,
    others will actually work for you.

    Have you ever read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C.
    Chang? It's written by people who know what they are talking about. Once
    you read it, you will realize that almost all TERF/conservative claims
    on trans people are bullshit. This book is exactly the reason why I
    explicitly picked a gender therapist that actually knows who she is doing.

    There are two types of people: those who support gender-affirming care
    and those who don't know what they are talking about. *Anyone* who
    pushes *anything* else than gender-affirmation (for example Kenny
    Zucker) is an idiot.

    Of course I do not trust *any* therapist - however, I picked a gender
    therapist after getting through with a healthy dose of skepticism.
    Normal therapists also should work if you are too ignorant to get a
    gender one.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from
    Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust >>>> data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never >>>> even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey >>>> to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia, >>>> as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender
    dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word: >>>> bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted >>>> by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it >>>> here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf >>>>
    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come >>> >from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5
    minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless,
    sunshine!

    What about cisgender people who are trans allies? Dr. Z PhD is an example.

    'Woke' assholes.

    She bothered to read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C. Chang.

    I'm myself going to a gender-affirming therapy and honestly, claims of
    just affirming an individual as-it-is are nothing more than first-grade
    bullshit. There are two types of people: those who support
    gender-affirming care and those who are idiots (like you).

    Gender Dysphoria Affirmative Working Group https://www.gdaworkinggroup.com/

    There are actually two types of males: normal people and delusional
    female impersonators (like you).
    I'm actually a female born with a penis. My personality is much more
    important than DNA and what I have between legs.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/



    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Sun Oct 24 13:19:57 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:21:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/21/21 10:27 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:25:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/20/21 5:39 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and
    marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every >>>> host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.


    You back to a Jewish conspiracy theories when you are afraid of the
    truth. To you, *anything* that does brush your beliefs even a bit is a
    leftist conspiracy.

    You dismiss DNA reality because you are afraid of your delusions being
    exposed as such. To you, any truth or exposure of your delusions is
    a rightist conspiracy.

    Gender identity is imprinted in your brain during pregnancy through
    hormones you get exposed to. My brain was probably bombarded with
    estrogen while I was here inside my mom (which unfortunately passed away
    long time ago).

    And yet you were born male and will always remain male. With,
    apparently, a fucked up brain/'personality'.

    To make matters different, she is actually a transphobe, just like you
    are. You *choose* to be ignorant and should you realize you're
    transgender, you would go to a non-affirming therapists despite lack of
    evidence that anything besides gender-affirmation works.

    If 'transbenders' as opposed to female impersonators actually existed,
    you might have a case for 'transphobia', but they don't.

    Yes, and gender dysphoria is evidence of that. Not all trans people are >dysphoric, though. have you ever read WPATH Standards of Care?
    Conservatives like you are unable to logically refute it.

    Delusional 'transbenders' like you are allergic to reality and immune
    to it.

    If it's scary for you, then you're severely misinformed. You cannot
    trust right-wing media when it comes to transgender issues. Transgender
    regret is *way* overblown in right-wing media and I'd rather take a 2%
    chance of regret over experimenting with unproven crankery from
    http://reddit.com/r/detrans/. There is a reason why "alternative
    treatments for gender dysphoria" are called _alternative_ - there is
    simply *no* evidence that they work.

    You cannot trust left-wing 'woke' media when it comes to 'transbender'
    issues. There is no such thing as 'gender dysphoria' separate from
    'gender appropriation'.


    Bullshit. People were gender dysphoric since the beginning of time. It's
    just that people with it were repressed in modern Western world.

    Horseshit. 'Gender dysphoria' does not exist except as a form of
    severe mental illness, which is more acceptable these days than
    before.

    It's better to go with stuff that has been proven to work rather than >experiment with alternative methods that *might* work. The methods of
    coping with GD from http://reddit.com/r/detrans might work, but they
    only do until they don't work and the victims of this fucked up webshite
    will end up with even greater regrets because their bodies have >masculinized/feminized beyond all hope.

    They are *mostly* transgender people who ignore the scientific consensus
    on being transgender and repress their identities. If you don't believe
    me, there is evidence:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qd31pn/i_could_really_use_some_advice_that_doesnt/

    Need more?

    I need proof that it's actually possible to 'transition' from male to
    female in the first place. DNA says it isn't.

    Gender therapists aren't all that scary - those who smear them are
    idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

    'Gender therapists' are quacks and chalatans. Those who trust them are
    gullible and vulnerable assholes.

    Depends which gender therapist you pick. Some are outright idiots,
    others will actually work for you.

    ANY 'therapist' that believes in this horseshit and markets/promotes
    it is a quack.

    Have you ever read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C.
    Chang? It's written by people who know what they are talking about. Once
    you read it, you will realize that almost all TERF/conservative claims
    on trans people are bullshit. This book is exactly the reason why I >explicitly picked a gender therapist that actually knows who she is doing.

    Have you ever met reality? You're MALE...get used to it.

    There are two types of people: those who support gender-affirming care
    and those who don't know what they are talking about. *Anyone* who
    pushes *anything* else than gender-affirmation (for example Kenny
    Zucker) is an idiot.

    Anyone who pushes 'gender appropriation' is a cretin and/or delusional
    and/or mentally ill.

    Of course I do not trust *any* therapist - however, I picked a gender >therapist after getting through with a healthy dose of skepticism.
    Normal therapists also should work if you are too ignorant to get a
    gender one.

    If they even HINT at believing in the 'gender appropriation' you are
    indulging in, they are quacks.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from
    Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust >>>>> data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never >>>>> even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey >>>>> to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia, >>>>> as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender
    dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word: >>>>> bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted >>>>> by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it >>>>> here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf

    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come >>>> >from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5 >>>>> minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless,
    sunshine!

    What about cisgender people who are trans allies? Dr. Z PhD is an example. >>
    'Woke' assholes.

    She bothered to read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C. Chang.

    More 'woke' horseshit.

    I'm myself going to a gender-affirming therapy and honestly, claims of
    just affirming an individual as-it-is are nothing more than first-grade
    bullshit. There are two types of people: those who support
    gender-affirming care and those who are idiots (like you).

    Gender Dysphoria Affirmative Working Group https://www.gdaworkinggroup.com/ >>
    There are actually two types of males: normal people and delusional
    female impersonators (like you).
    I'm actually a female born with a penis. My personality is much more >important than DNA and what I have between legs.

    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Wed Oct 27 12:53:20 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 2021-10-27 12:44 p.m., Skeeter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 19:15:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/24/21 12:19 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:21:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/21/21 10:27 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:25:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/20/21 5:39 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and >>>>>>> marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every >>>>>>> host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.


    You back to a Jewish conspiracy theories when you are afraid of the >>>>>> truth. To you, *anything* that does brush your beliefs even a bit is a >>>>>> leftist conspiracy.

    You dismiss DNA reality because you are afraid of your delusions being >>>>> exposed as such. To you, any truth or exposure of your delusions is >>>>> a rightist conspiracy.

    Gender identity is imprinted in your brain during pregnancy through
    hormones you get exposed to. My brain was probably bombarded with
    estrogen while I was here inside my mom (which unfortunately passed away >>>> long time ago).

    And yet you were born male and will always remain male. With,
    apparently, a fucked up brain/'personality'.


    No, I'm a transgender female. It's a gift from my nature, but at the
    same time I'm pissed off that I have to spend a several hours shaving,
    putting makeup, practicing voice everyday and what sucks, dealing with
    transphobia. And it's all worth it.

    To make matters different, she is actually a transphobe, just like you >>>>>> are. You *choose* to be ignorant and should you realize you're
    transgender, you would go to a non-affirming therapists despite lack of >>>>>> evidence that anything besides gender-affirmation works.

    If 'transbenders' as opposed to female impersonators actually existed, >>>>> you might have a case for 'transphobia', but they don't.

    Yes, and gender dysphoria is evidence of that. Not all trans people are >>>> dysphoric, though. have you ever read WPATH Standards of Care?
    Conservatives like you are unable to logically refute it.

    Delusional 'transbenders' like you are allergic to reality and immune
    to it.


    The reality is that transgender people are real. Should your child come
    out as transgender, what would you choose - evidence-based
    gender-affirming care or conversion therapy quackery? You should
    /affirm/ anybody's identity, no matter what, but it doesn't mean you
    have to allow the person get on puberty blockers or hormones (you cannot
    have surgery under 18 anyway, unless you are very VERY mature and are in
    serious danger when it can be justified).

    If you let real* quacks from http://gendercriticalresources.com/ destroy
    your child's life, expect your child to leave you forever once they turn
    18 only to transition in safe place away from you. You will see they
    won't regret it (unless you are very unlucky, that's it).

    Talk with a gender therapist in your area if you have time and can
    afford it (extra points if your insurance covers gender therapy), but
    make sure that they are *affirming* of gender variance. They won't push
    you into transitioning, trust me. And when they recommend you to
    transition, they are right 99% of the time.

    If it's scary for you, then you're severely misinformed. You cannot >>>>>> trust right-wing media when it comes to transgender issues. Transgender >>>>>> regret is *way* overblown in right-wing media and I'd rather take a 2% >>>>>> chance of regret over experimenting with unproven crankery from
    http://reddit.com/r/detrans/. There is a reason why "alternative
    treatments for gender dysphoria" are called _alternative_ - there is >>>>>> simply *no* evidence that they work.

    You cannot trust left-wing 'woke' media when it comes to 'transbender' >>>>> issues. There is no such thing as 'gender dysphoria' separate from
    'gender appropriation'.


    Bullshit. People were gender dysphoric since the beginning of time. It's >>>> just that people with it were repressed in modern Western world.

    Horseshit. 'Gender dysphoria' does not exist except as a form of
    severe mental illness, which is more acceptable these days than
    before.

    And the only known treatment is *transition*. Gender therapists are
    there for reason - their goal is to help you explore your gender
    identity, minimize possible regret and so on. They get a lot of hate
    from idiots like you.

    Despite what the Right said to you, you *won't* get a hormone/surgery
    letter even if you tried (you are probably cisgender), try to get one
    and lie your teeth out to one if you don't believe me. I attempted it
    for fun. I received a letter that I *wasn't* elgible for hormones due to
    obvious reasons.

    Sure, my gender clinic is informed consent, but I make a conscious
    choice *not* to get on hormones because I don't know whether they are
    right for me yet. The only reason I'm really using it is to see a gender
    therapist (which, unlike you, actually knows what they are doing) and
    get a voice training.

    It's better to go with stuff that has been proven to work rather than
    experiment with alternative methods that *might* work. The methods of
    coping with GD from http://reddit.com/r/detrans might work, but they
    only do until they don't work and the victims of this fucked up webshite >>>> will end up with even greater regrets because their bodies have
    masculinized/feminized beyond all hope.

    They are *mostly* transgender people who ignore the scientific consensus >>>> on being transgender and repress their identities. If you don't believe >>>> me, there is evidence:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qd31pn/i_could_really_use_some_advice_that_doesnt/

    Need more?

    I need proof that it's actually possible to 'transition' from male to
    female in the first place. DNA says it isn't.

    Changing DNA isn't the goal - it doesn't matter anyway. You can get
    hormones and surgery to change some of your sex characteristics to some
    degree. The earlier you can get on them, the better results you can get.
    That's what puberty blockers are for if you are under 18 and you are not
    mature enough to make this kind of decision.

    You might be able to get your child of hormones (if they are mature
    enough to make this kind of decision) if they are at least 16 (or
    younger in some exceptions), but you gotta go through gender therapy
    first and get diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Nobody with some oil in
    their head will instantly push medical transition to minors.

    Gender therapists aren't all that scary - those who smear them are >>>>>> idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

    'Gender therapists' are quacks and chalatans. Those who trust them are >>>>> gullible and vulnerable assholes.

    Depends which gender therapist you pick. Some are outright idiots,
    others will actually work for you.

    ANY 'therapist' that believes in this horseshit and markets/promotes
    it is a quack.

    That's why I believe it should be illegal to practice gender
    non-affirming care in America - there are still too many idiots who seek
    it for themselves, or worse, children.

    Have you ever read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C.
    Chang? It's written by people who know what they are talking about. Once >>>> you read it, you will realize that almost all TERF/conservative claims >>>> on trans people are bullshit. This book is exactly the reason why I
    explicitly picked a gender therapist that actually knows who she is doing. >>>
    Have you ever met reality? You're MALE...get used to it.

    I'm a transgender female, have you heard that? I have a penis and can
    make children, but it doesn't make me any less female. You cannot get me
    pregnant.

    There are two types of people: those who support gender-affirming care >>>> and those who don't know what they are talking about. *Anyone* who
    pushes *anything* else than gender-affirmation (for example Kenny
    Zucker) is an idiot.

    Anyone who pushes 'gender appropriation' is a cretin and/or delusional
    and/or mentally ill.

    Of course I do not trust *any* therapist - however, I picked a gender
    therapist after getting through with a healthy dose of skepticism.
    Normal therapists also should work if you are too ignorant to get a
    gender one.

    If they even HINT at believing in the 'gender appropriation' you are
    indulging in, they are quacks.

    Bullshit. Then why gender-affirming care is recommended by pretty much
    any bigger medical body in the world? The only people who are against is
    are like those who don't know what they are talking about:

    https://www.reveddit.com/v/detrans/comments/cs17x7/afab_15_year_old_teen_questioning_myself_again/exc0605/#t1_exc0605

    If I was a sysop of this message board, I would immediately change her
    text to "DO NOT FALL FOR MY BULLSHIT". You won't scare me away from my
    gender-affirming therapist.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from >>>>>>>> Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust >>>>>>>> data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never
    even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey
    to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia,
    as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender >>>>>>>> dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word:
    bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted
    by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it
    here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf

    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come
    from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5 >>>>>>>> minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless, >>>>>>> sunshine!

    What about cisgender people who are trans allies? Dr. Z PhD is an example.

    'Woke' assholes.

    She bothered to read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C. Chang. >>>
    More 'woke' horseshit.

    Criminialize non-gender affirming care. Doesn't matter several thousands
    might get ran over by gender-affirming system, saving lives of hundreds
    of thousands of trans people is more important. *Anyone* inflating the
    numbers is a crank.

    I'm myself going to a gender-affirming therapy and honestly, claims of >>>>>> just affirming an individual as-it-is are nothing more than first-grade >>>>>> bullshit. There are two types of people: those who support
    gender-affirming care and those who are idiots (like you).

    Gender Dysphoria Affirmative Working Group https://www.gdaworkinggroup.com/

    There are actually two types of males: normal people and delusional >>>>> female impersonators (like you).
    I'm actually a female born with a penis. My personality is much more
    important than DNA and what I have between legs.

    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    Plonk

    yep , me too

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4f/29/f1/4f29f15479b99d852271fa23b56d0817.gif

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Wed Oct 27 13:44:51 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 19:15:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/24/21 12:19 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:21:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/21/21 10:27 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:25:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/20/21 5:39 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and
    marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every >>>>>> host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.


    You back to a Jewish conspiracy theories when you are afraid of the
    truth. To you, *anything* that does brush your beliefs even a bit is a >>>>> leftist conspiracy.

    You dismiss DNA reality because you are afraid of your delusions being >>>> exposed as such. To you, any truth or exposure of your delusions is
    a rightist conspiracy.

    Gender identity is imprinted in your brain during pregnancy through
    hormones you get exposed to. My brain was probably bombarded with
    estrogen while I was here inside my mom (which unfortunately passed away >>> long time ago).

    And yet you were born male and will always remain male. With,
    apparently, a fucked up brain/'personality'.


    No, I'm a transgender female. It's a gift from my nature, but at the
    same time I'm pissed off that I have to spend a several hours shaving, >putting makeup, practicing voice everyday and what sucks, dealing with >transphobia. And it's all worth it.

    To make matters different, she is actually a transphobe, just like you >>>>> are. You *choose* to be ignorant and should you realize you're
    transgender, you would go to a non-affirming therapists despite lack of >>>>> evidence that anything besides gender-affirmation works.

    If 'transbenders' as opposed to female impersonators actually existed, >>>> you might have a case for 'transphobia', but they don't.

    Yes, and gender dysphoria is evidence of that. Not all trans people are
    dysphoric, though. have you ever read WPATH Standards of Care?
    Conservatives like you are unable to logically refute it.

    Delusional 'transbenders' like you are allergic to reality and immune
    to it.


    The reality is that transgender people are real. Should your child come
    out as transgender, what would you choose - evidence-based
    gender-affirming care or conversion therapy quackery? You should
    /affirm/ anybody's identity, no matter what, but it doesn't mean you
    have to allow the person get on puberty blockers or hormones (you cannot
    have surgery under 18 anyway, unless you are very VERY mature and are in >serious danger when it can be justified).

    If you let real* quacks from http://gendercriticalresources.com/ destroy
    your child's life, expect your child to leave you forever once they turn
    18 only to transition in safe place away from you. You will see they
    won't regret it (unless you are very unlucky, that's it).

    Talk with a gender therapist in your area if you have time and can
    afford it (extra points if your insurance covers gender therapy), but
    make sure that they are *affirming* of gender variance. They won't push
    you into transitioning, trust me. And when they recommend you to
    transition, they are right 99% of the time.

    If it's scary for you, then you're severely misinformed. You cannot
    trust right-wing media when it comes to transgender issues. Transgender >>>>> regret is *way* overblown in right-wing media and I'd rather take a 2% >>>>> chance of regret over experimenting with unproven crankery from
    http://reddit.com/r/detrans/. There is a reason why "alternative
    treatments for gender dysphoria" are called _alternative_ - there is >>>>> simply *no* evidence that they work.

    You cannot trust left-wing 'woke' media when it comes to 'transbender' >>>> issues. There is no such thing as 'gender dysphoria' separate from
    'gender appropriation'.


    Bullshit. People were gender dysphoric since the beginning of time. It's >>> just that people with it were repressed in modern Western world.

    Horseshit. 'Gender dysphoria' does not exist except as a form of
    severe mental illness, which is more acceptable these days than
    before.

    And the only known treatment is *transition*. Gender therapists are
    there for reason - their goal is to help you explore your gender
    identity, minimize possible regret and so on. They get a lot of hate
    from idiots like you.

    Despite what the Right said to you, you *won't* get a hormone/surgery
    letter even if you tried (you are probably cisgender), try to get one
    and lie your teeth out to one if you don't believe me. I attempted it
    for fun. I received a letter that I *wasn't* elgible for hormones due to >obvious reasons.

    Sure, my gender clinic is informed consent, but I make a conscious
    choice *not* to get on hormones because I don't know whether they are
    right for me yet. The only reason I'm really using it is to see a gender >therapist (which, unlike you, actually knows what they are doing) and
    get a voice training.

    It's better to go with stuff that has been proven to work rather than
    experiment with alternative methods that *might* work. The methods of
    coping with GD from http://reddit.com/r/detrans might work, but they
    only do until they don't work and the victims of this fucked up webshite >>> will end up with even greater regrets because their bodies have
    masculinized/feminized beyond all hope.

    They are *mostly* transgender people who ignore the scientific consensus >>> on being transgender and repress their identities. If you don't believe
    me, there is evidence:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qd31pn/i_could_really_use_some_advice_that_doesnt/

    Need more?

    I need proof that it's actually possible to 'transition' from male to
    female in the first place. DNA says it isn't.

    Changing DNA isn't the goal - it doesn't matter anyway. You can get
    hormones and surgery to change some of your sex characteristics to some >degree. The earlier you can get on them, the better results you can get. >That's what puberty blockers are for if you are under 18 and you are not >mature enough to make this kind of decision.

    You might be able to get your child of hormones (if they are mature
    enough to make this kind of decision) if they are at least 16 (or
    younger in some exceptions), but you gotta go through gender therapy
    first and get diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Nobody with some oil in
    their head will instantly push medical transition to minors.

    Gender therapists aren't all that scary - those who smear them are
    idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

    'Gender therapists' are quacks and chalatans. Those who trust them are >>>> gullible and vulnerable assholes.

    Depends which gender therapist you pick. Some are outright idiots,
    others will actually work for you.

    ANY 'therapist' that believes in this horseshit and markets/promotes
    it is a quack.

    That's why I believe it should be illegal to practice gender
    non-affirming care in America - there are still too many idiots who seek
    it for themselves, or worse, children.

    Have you ever read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C.
    Chang? It's written by people who know what they are talking about. Once >>> you read it, you will realize that almost all TERF/conservative claims
    on trans people are bullshit. This book is exactly the reason why I
    explicitly picked a gender therapist that actually knows who she is doing. >>
    Have you ever met reality? You're MALE...get used to it.

    I'm a transgender female, have you heard that? I have a penis and can
    make children, but it doesn't make me any less female. You cannot get me >pregnant.

    There are two types of people: those who support gender-affirming care
    and those who don't know what they are talking about. *Anyone* who
    pushes *anything* else than gender-affirmation (for example Kenny
    Zucker) is an idiot.

    Anyone who pushes 'gender appropriation' is a cretin and/or delusional
    and/or mentally ill.

    Of course I do not trust *any* therapist - however, I picked a gender
    therapist after getting through with a healthy dose of skepticism.
    Normal therapists also should work if you are too ignorant to get a
    gender one.

    If they even HINT at believing in the 'gender appropriation' you are
    indulging in, they are quacks.

    Bullshit. Then why gender-affirming care is recommended by pretty much
    any bigger medical body in the world? The only people who are against is
    are like those who don't know what they are talking about:

    https://www.reveddit.com/v/detrans/comments/cs17x7/afab_15_year_old_teen_questioning_myself_again/exc0605/#t1_exc0605

    If I was a sysop of this message board, I would immediately change her
    text to "DO NOT FALL FOR MY BULLSHIT". You won't scare me away from my >gender-affirming therapist.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from >>>>>>> Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust >>>>>>> data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never >>>>>>> even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey
    to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia,
    as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender >>>>>>> dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word:
    bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted >>>>>>> by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it
    here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf

    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come >>>>>> >from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5 >>>>>>> minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless,
    sunshine!

    What about cisgender people who are trans allies? Dr. Z PhD is an example.

    'Woke' assholes.

    She bothered to read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C. Chang. >>
    More 'woke' horseshit.

    Criminialize non-gender affirming care. Doesn't matter several thousands >might get ran over by gender-affirming system, saving lives of hundreds
    of thousands of trans people is more important. *Anyone* inflating the >numbers is a crank.

    I'm myself going to a gender-affirming therapy and honestly, claims of >>>>> just affirming an individual as-it-is are nothing more than first-grade >>>>> bullshit. There are two types of people: those who support
    gender-affirming care and those who are idiots (like you).

    Gender Dysphoria Affirmative Working Group https://www.gdaworkinggroup.com/

    There are actually two types of males: normal people and delusional
    female impersonators (like you).
    I'm actually a female born with a penis. My personality is much more
    important than DNA and what I have between legs.

    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    Plonk

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to KWills on Wed Oct 27 19:15:00 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 10/24/21 12:19 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:21:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/21/21 10:27 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:25:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/20/21 5:39 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and
    marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every >>>>> host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.


    You back to a Jewish conspiracy theories when you are afraid of the
    truth. To you, *anything* that does brush your beliefs even a bit is a >>>> leftist conspiracy.

    You dismiss DNA reality because you are afraid of your delusions being
    exposed as such. To you, any truth or exposure of your delusions is
    a rightist conspiracy.

    Gender identity is imprinted in your brain during pregnancy through
    hormones you get exposed to. My brain was probably bombarded with
    estrogen while I was here inside my mom (which unfortunately passed away
    long time ago).

    And yet you were born male and will always remain male. With,
    apparently, a fucked up brain/'personality'.


    No, I'm a transgender female. It's a gift from my nature, but at the
    same time I'm pissed off that I have to spend a several hours shaving,
    putting makeup, practicing voice everyday and what sucks, dealing with transphobia. And it's all worth it.

    To make matters different, she is actually a transphobe, just like you >>>> are. You *choose* to be ignorant and should you realize you're
    transgender, you would go to a non-affirming therapists despite lack of >>>> evidence that anything besides gender-affirmation works.

    If 'transbenders' as opposed to female impersonators actually existed,
    you might have a case for 'transphobia', but they don't.

    Yes, and gender dysphoria is evidence of that. Not all trans people are
    dysphoric, though. have you ever read WPATH Standards of Care?
    Conservatives like you are unable to logically refute it.

    Delusional 'transbenders' like you are allergic to reality and immune
    to it.


    The reality is that transgender people are real. Should your child come
    out as transgender, what would you choose - evidence-based
    gender-affirming care or conversion therapy quackery? You should
    /affirm/ anybody's identity, no matter what, but it doesn't mean you
    have to allow the person get on puberty blockers or hormones (you cannot
    have surgery under 18 anyway, unless you are very VERY mature and are in serious danger when it can be justified).

    If you let real* quacks from http://gendercriticalresources.com/ destroy
    your child's life, expect your child to leave you forever once they turn
    18 only to transition in safe place away from you. You will see they
    won't regret it (unless you are very unlucky, that's it).

    Talk with a gender therapist in your area if you have time and can
    afford it (extra points if your insurance covers gender therapy), but
    make sure that they are *affirming* of gender variance. They won't push
    you into transitioning, trust me. And when they recommend you to
    transition, they are right 99% of the time.

    If it's scary for you, then you're severely misinformed. You cannot
    trust right-wing media when it comes to transgender issues. Transgender >>>> regret is *way* overblown in right-wing media and I'd rather take a 2% >>>> chance of regret over experimenting with unproven crankery from
    http://reddit.com/r/detrans/. There is a reason why "alternative
    treatments for gender dysphoria" are called _alternative_ - there is
    simply *no* evidence that they work.

    You cannot trust left-wing 'woke' media when it comes to 'transbender'
    issues. There is no such thing as 'gender dysphoria' separate from
    'gender appropriation'.


    Bullshit. People were gender dysphoric since the beginning of time. It's
    just that people with it were repressed in modern Western world.

    Horseshit. 'Gender dysphoria' does not exist except as a form of
    severe mental illness, which is more acceptable these days than
    before.

    And the only known treatment is *transition*. Gender therapists are
    there for reason - their goal is to help you explore your gender
    identity, minimize possible regret and so on. They get a lot of hate
    from idiots like you.

    Despite what the Right said to you, you *won't* get a hormone/surgery
    letter even if you tried (you are probably cisgender), try to get one
    and lie your teeth out to one if you don't believe me. I attempted it
    for fun. I received a letter that I *wasn't* elgible for hormones due to obvious reasons.

    Sure, my gender clinic is informed consent, but I make a conscious
    choice *not* to get on hormones because I don't know whether they are
    right for me yet. The only reason I'm really using it is to see a gender therapist (which, unlike you, actually knows what they are doing) and
    get a voice training.

    It's better to go with stuff that has been proven to work rather than
    experiment with alternative methods that *might* work. The methods of
    coping with GD from http://reddit.com/r/detrans might work, but they
    only do until they don't work and the victims of this fucked up webshite
    will end up with even greater regrets because their bodies have
    masculinized/feminized beyond all hope.

    They are *mostly* transgender people who ignore the scientific consensus
    on being transgender and repress their identities. If you don't believe
    me, there is evidence:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qd31pn/i_could_really_use_some_advice_that_doesnt/

    Need more?

    I need proof that it's actually possible to 'transition' from male to
    female in the first place. DNA says it isn't.

    Changing DNA isn't the goal - it doesn't matter anyway. You can get
    hormones and surgery to change some of your sex characteristics to some
    degree. The earlier you can get on them, the better results you can get.
    That's what puberty blockers are for if you are under 18 and you are not
    mature enough to make this kind of decision.

    You might be able to get your child of hormones (if they are mature
    enough to make this kind of decision) if they are at least 16 (or
    younger in some exceptions), but you gotta go through gender therapy
    first and get diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Nobody with some oil in
    their head will instantly push medical transition to minors.

    Gender therapists aren't all that scary - those who smear them are
    idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

    'Gender therapists' are quacks and chalatans. Those who trust them are
    gullible and vulnerable assholes.

    Depends which gender therapist you pick. Some are outright idiots,
    others will actually work for you.

    ANY 'therapist' that believes in this horseshit and markets/promotes
    it is a quack.

    That's why I believe it should be illegal to practice gender
    non-affirming care in America - there are still too many idiots who seek
    it for themselves, or worse, children.

    Have you ever read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C.
    Chang? It's written by people who know what they are talking about. Once
    you read it, you will realize that almost all TERF/conservative claims
    on trans people are bullshit. This book is exactly the reason why I
    explicitly picked a gender therapist that actually knows who she is doing.

    Have you ever met reality? You're MALE...get used to it.

    I'm a transgender female, have you heard that? I have a penis and can
    make children, but it doesn't make me any less female. You cannot get me pregnant.

    There are two types of people: those who support gender-affirming care
    and those who don't know what they are talking about. *Anyone* who
    pushes *anything* else than gender-affirmation (for example Kenny
    Zucker) is an idiot.

    Anyone who pushes 'gender appropriation' is a cretin and/or delusional
    and/or mentally ill.

    Of course I do not trust *any* therapist - however, I picked a gender
    therapist after getting through with a healthy dose of skepticism.
    Normal therapists also should work if you are too ignorant to get a
    gender one.

    If they even HINT at believing in the 'gender appropriation' you are indulging in, they are quacks.

    Bullshit. Then why gender-affirming care is recommended by pretty much
    any bigger medical body in the world? The only people who are against is
    are like those who don't know what they are talking about:

    https://www.reveddit.com/v/detrans/comments/cs17x7/afab_15_year_old_teen_questioning_myself_again/exc0605/#t1_exc0605

    If I was a sysop of this message board, I would immediately change her
    text to "DO NOT FALL FOR MY BULLSHIT". You won't scare me away from my gender-affirming therapist.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from
    Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust >>>>>> data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never >>>>>> even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey >>>>>> to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia, >>>>>> as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender >>>>>> dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word: >>>>>> bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted >>>>>> by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it >>>>>> here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf

    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come >>>>> >from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5 >>>>>> minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless,
    sunshine!

    What about cisgender people who are trans allies? Dr. Z PhD is an example. >>>
    'Woke' assholes.

    She bothered to read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C. Chang.

    More 'woke' horseshit.

    Criminialize non-gender affirming care. Doesn't matter several thousands
    might get ran over by gender-affirming system, saving lives of hundreds
    of thousands of trans people is more important. *Anyone* inflating the
    numbers is a crank.

    I'm myself going to a gender-affirming therapy and honestly, claims of >>>> just affirming an individual as-it-is are nothing more than first-grade >>>> bullshit. There are two types of people: those who support
    gender-affirming care and those who are idiots (like you).

    Gender Dysphoria Affirmative Working Group https://www.gdaworkinggroup.com/

    There are actually two types of males: normal people and delusional
    female impersonators (like you).
    I'm actually a female born with a penis. My personality is much more
    important than DNA and what I have between legs.

    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/



    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

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  • From Checkmate@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 27 13:18:09 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    --
    Checkmate
    Copyright 2021
    all rights reserved

    https://youtu.be/wT-8Dm1VThc

    Footloose! https://youtu.be/mXfVaXjBFK4

    Kensi, "doing a little victory dance"
    https://youtu.be/obInNk448nI ***************************************************
    "I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as
    kensi." -Nadegda
    Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me> ***************************************************

    AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012 (Pre-Burnore)
    Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Awards (Post-Burnore)
    Co-winner Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker
    award May 2001, (Brethern of Beelzebub troll)
    Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker award, Feb 2012

    Author, Humorist, Cynic
    Philosopher, Humanitarian
    Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
    Usenet Shot-Caller

    In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
    May 2010-February 12, 2017

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  • From %@21:1/5 to Checkmate on Wed Oct 27 13:22:17 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature. A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Checkmate@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 27 13:34:13 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % had the audacity to say the following:



    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    It's missing a chunk, but you can claim it's "ribbed for her pleasure".

    --
    Checkmate
    Copyright 2021
    all rights reserved

    https://youtu.be/wT-8Dm1VThc

    Footloose! https://youtu.be/mXfVaXjBFK4

    Kensi, "doing a little victory dance"
    https://youtu.be/obInNk448nI ***************************************************
    "I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as
    kensi." -Nadegda
    Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me> ***************************************************

    AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012 (Pre-Burnore)
    Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Awards (Post-Burnore)
    Co-winner Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker
    award May 2001, (Brethern of Beelzebub troll)
    Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker award, Feb 2012

    Author, Humorist, Cynic
    Philosopher, Humanitarian
    Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
    Usenet Shot-Caller

    In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
    May 2010-February 12, 2017

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  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to Checkmate on Wed Oct 27 20:42:00 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 10/27/21 8:18 PM, Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature. A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    They cannot just walk to a gender clinic and get their genital operation performed. Yes, the current model of transgender care is affirmation,
    but they aren't going to take chances if you haven't gone through
    therapy, didn't got diagnosed with gender dysphoria, you wasn't on
    hormones for at least 12 months, maybe living as a gender for this time
    and you're at least 18. At 18, you are probably mature enough to make
    this irreversible decision.

    Some people say to wait until 25, but that's bullshit since at 18 you
    are legally an adult. At 18 you are mature enough to manage your
    finances, get a job without your parents' approval and move out of
    house, so why you shouldn't be able to make medical decisions? You can't
    wait until 25, most 18 year old people know what they are doing and if
    they don't, they are fished out by therapists who assess trans person's capability of informed consent.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 27 13:48:50 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 2021-10-27 1:46 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 10/27/21 8:34 PM, Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
    Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % had the audacity to say the
    following:



    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>> Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the >>>> following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if
    they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against
    real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    It's missing a chunk, but you can claim it's "ribbed for her pleasure".

    You cannot instantly get surgery. You have to be at least 18, be
    diagnosed with gender dysphoria, be on hormones and live as your
    affirmed gender for 1 year before.

    Of course, you can start cross-sex hormones with little assessment at
    18, but I always recommend talking with gender therapist first. IMO it's
    just too risky to medically transition without some gender therapy first
    and the main reason for transition regret. If you're 18, you should understand that.

    i didn't see this missing chunk until now ,
    so i'll reply to it now , i told you not to bite that hard

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  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to Checkmate on Wed Oct 27 20:46:00 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 10/27/21 8:34 PM, Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % had the audacity to say the following:



    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
    Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the
    following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    It's missing a chunk, but you can claim it's "ribbed for her pleasure".

    You cannot instantly get surgery. You have to be at least 18, be
    diagnosed with gender dysphoria, be on hormones and live as your
    affirmed gender for 1 year before.

    Of course, you can start cross-sex hormones with little assessment at
    18, but I always recommend talking with gender therapist first. IMO it's
    just too risky to medically transition without some gender therapy first
    and the main reason for transition regret. If you're 18, you should
    understand that.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Wed Oct 27 22:01:35 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
    Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the
    following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't >> desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    You don't got one.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Wed Oct 27 14:06:29 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 2021-10-27 2:01 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
    Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the
    following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    You don't got one.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    hiding it in your mouth won't work

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Wed Oct 27 22:01:30 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 19:15:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/24/21 12:19 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:21:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/21/21 10:27 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:25:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/20/21 5:39 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and
    marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every >>>>>> host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.


    You back to a Jewish conspiracy theories when you are afraid of the
    truth. To you, *anything* that does brush your beliefs even a bit is a >>>>> leftist conspiracy.

    You dismiss DNA reality because you are afraid of your delusions being >>>> exposed as such. To you, any truth or exposure of your delusions is
    a rightist conspiracy.

    Gender identity is imprinted in your brain during pregnancy through
    hormones you get exposed to. My brain was probably bombarded with
    estrogen while I was here inside my mom (which unfortunately passed away >>> long time ago).

    And yet you were born male and will always remain male. With,
    apparently, a fucked up brain/'personality'.


    No, I'm a transgender female.

    No, you're not. You're a delusional male. Get a fucking DNA test
    (i.e. science) and it'll prove you're male.

    It's a gift from my nature, but at the
    same time I'm pissed off that I have to spend a several hours shaving, >putting makeup, practicing voice everyday and what sucks, dealing with >transphobia. And it's all worth it.

    Being a female impersonator is a lot of work, no doubt about it. But
    at the end of the day you're still a delusional male pretending to be
    female.

    To make matters different, she is actually a transphobe, just like you >>>>> are. You *choose* to be ignorant and should you realize you're
    transgender, you would go to a non-affirming therapists despite lack of >>>>> evidence that anything besides gender-affirmation works.

    If 'transbenders' as opposed to female impersonators actually existed, >>>> you might have a case for 'transphobia', but they don't.

    Yes, and gender dysphoria is evidence of that. Not all trans people are
    dysphoric, though. have you ever read WPATH Standards of Care?
    Conservatives like you are unable to logically refute it.

    Delusional 'transbenders' like you are allergic to reality and immune
    to it.


    The reality is that transgender people are real.

    They are really delusional is what you're saying.

    Should your child come
    out as transgender, what would you choose - evidence-based
    gender-affirming care or conversion therapy quackery? You should
    /affirm/ anybody's identity, no matter what, but it doesn't mean you
    have to allow the person get on puberty blockers or hormones (you cannot
    have surgery under 18 anyway, unless you are very VERY mature and are in >serious danger when it can be justified).

    No child of mine will ever be delusional enough to think they can
    change sex.

    If you let real* quacks from http://gendercriticalresources.com/ destroy
    your child's life, expect your child to leave you forever once they turn
    18 only to transition in safe place away from you. You will see they
    won't regret it (unless you are very unlucky, that's it).

    No child of mine will ever need a 'gender quack'.

    Talk with a gender therapist in your area if you have time and can
    afford it (extra points if your insurance covers gender therapy), but
    make sure that they are *affirming* of gender variance. They won't push
    you into transitioning, trust me. And when they recommend you to
    transition, they are right 99% of the time.

    I have absolutely no time for 'gender therapist' or anyone else
    involved in marketing/promoting 'gender appropriation'..which is ALL
    you're doing.

    If it's scary for you, then you're severely misinformed. You cannot
    trust right-wing media when it comes to transgender issues. Transgender >>>>> regret is *way* overblown in right-wing media and I'd rather take a 2% >>>>> chance of regret over experimenting with unproven crankery from
    http://reddit.com/r/detrans/. There is a reason why "alternative
    treatments for gender dysphoria" are called _alternative_ - there is >>>>> simply *no* evidence that they work.

    You cannot trust left-wing 'woke' media when it comes to 'transbender' >>>> issues. There is no such thing as 'gender dysphoria' separate from
    'gender appropriation'.


    Bullshit. People were gender dysphoric since the beginning of time. It's >>> just that people with it were repressed in modern Western world.

    Horseshit. 'Gender dysphoria' does not exist except as a form of
    severe mental illness, which is more acceptable these days than
    before.

    And the only known treatment is *transition*. Gender therapists are
    there for reason - their goal is to help you explore your gender
    identity, minimize possible regret and so on. They get a lot of hate
    from idiots like you.

    'Transition' from one sex to another is physically impossible. Only
    delusional cretins like you think otherwise.

    Despite what the Right said to you, you *won't* get a hormone/surgery
    letter even if you tried (you are probably cisgender), try to get one
    and lie your teeth out to one if you don't believe me. I attempted it
    for fun. I received a letter that I *wasn't* elgible for hormones due to >obvious reasons.

    Hormones won't help your delusions, they will only reinforce them

    Sure, my gender clinic is informed consent, but I make a conscious
    choice *not* to get on hormones because I don't know whether they are
    right for me yet. The only reason I'm really using it is to see a gender >therapist (which, unlike you, actually knows what they are doing) and
    get a voice training.

    Get all the voice training you want. One look at your Adam's apple
    will tell anyone that you're male.

    It's better to go with stuff that has been proven to work rather than
    experiment with alternative methods that *might* work. The methods of
    coping with GD from http://reddit.com/r/detrans might work, but they
    only do until they don't work and the victims of this fucked up webshite >>> will end up with even greater regrets because their bodies have
    masculinized/feminized beyond all hope.

    They are *mostly* transgender people who ignore the scientific consensus >>> on being transgender and repress their identities. If you don't believe
    me, there is evidence:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qd31pn/i_could_really_use_some_advice_that_doesnt/

    Need more?

    I need proof that it's actually possible to 'transition' from male to
    female in the first place. DNA says it isn't.

    Changing DNA isn't the goal - it doesn't matter anyway. You can get
    hormones and surgery to change some of your sex characteristics to some >degree. The earlier you can get on them, the better results you can get. >That's what puberty blockers are for if you are under 18 and you are not >mature enough to make this kind of decision.

    Changing DNA is the ONLY way you'll ever get to 'transition' from one
    sex to another. Everything else is horseshit, pure and simple.

    You might be able to get your child of hormones (if they are mature
    enough to make this kind of decision) if they are at least 16 (or
    younger in some exceptions), but you gotta go through gender therapy
    first and get diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Nobody with some oil in
    their head will instantly push medical transition to minors.

    Medical transition is pointless. Remove male genitalia and you become
    a castrated male with a penectomy...definitely NOT a female.

    Gender therapists aren't all that scary - those who smear them are
    idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

    'Gender therapists' are quacks and chalatans. Those who trust them are >>>> gullible and vulnerable assholes.

    Depends which gender therapist you pick. Some are outright idiots,
    others will actually work for you.

    ANY 'therapist' that believes in this horseshit and markets/promotes
    it is a quack.

    That's why I believe it should be illegal to practice gender
    non-affirming care in America - there are still too many idiots who seek
    it for themselves, or worse, children.

    I believe it should be illegal to practise 'gender appropriation'.
    There are still too many delusional idiots doing it.

    Have you ever read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C.
    Chang? It's written by people who know what they are talking about. Once >>> you read it, you will realize that almost all TERF/conservative claims
    on trans people are bullshit. This book is exactly the reason why I
    explicitly picked a gender therapist that actually knows who she is doing. >>
    Have you ever met reality? You're MALE...get used to it.

    I'm a transgender female, have you heard that? I have a penis and can
    make children, but it doesn't make me any less female. You cannot get me >pregnant.

    You're a delusional male, as your penis will tell you. Not all
    females can get pregnant, you as a male certainly can't.

    There are two types of people: those who support gender-affirming care
    and those who don't know what they are talking about. *Anyone* who
    pushes *anything* else than gender-affirmation (for example Kenny
    Zucker) is an idiot.

    Anyone who pushes 'gender appropriation' is a cretin and/or delusional
    and/or mentally ill.

    Of course I do not trust *any* therapist - however, I picked a gender
    therapist after getting through with a healthy dose of skepticism.
    Normal therapists also should work if you are too ignorant to get a
    gender one.

    If they even HINT at believing in the 'gender appropriation' you are
    indulging in, they are quacks.

    Bullshit. Then why gender-affirming care is recommended by pretty much
    any bigger medical body in the world? The only people who are against is
    are like those who don't know what they are talking about:

    https://www.reveddit.com/v/detrans/comments/cs17x7/afab_15_year_old_teen_questioning_myself_again/exc0605/#t1_exc0605

    'Gender affirming' care is 'woke' horseshit of the worst possible
    kind.

    If I was a sysop of this message board, I would immediately change her
    text to "DO NOT FALL FOR MY BULLSHIT". You won't scare me away from my >gender-affirming therapist.

    It's not going to make you female so you're wasting your fucking time
    and money.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from >>>>>>> Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust >>>>>>> data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never >>>>>>> even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey
    to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia,
    as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender >>>>>>> dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word:
    bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted >>>>>>> by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it
    here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf

    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come >>>>>> >from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5 >>>>>>> minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless,
    sunshine!

    What about cisgender people who are trans allies? Dr. Z PhD is an example.

    'Woke' assholes.

    She bothered to read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C. Chang. >>
    More 'woke' horseshit.

    Criminialize non-gender affirming care. Doesn't matter several thousands >might get ran over by gender-affirming system, saving lives of hundreds
    of thousands of trans people is more important. *Anyone* inflating the >numbers is a crank.

    Criminalise 'gender appropriation' instead. It's doing untold harm to thousands of gullible and impressionable children.

    I'm myself going to a gender-affirming therapy and honestly, claims of >>>>> just affirming an individual as-it-is are nothing more than first-grade >>>>> bullshit. There are two types of people: those who support
    gender-affirming care and those who are idiots (like you).

    Gender Dysphoria Affirmative Working Group https://www.gdaworkinggroup.com/

    There are actually two types of males: normal people and delusional
    female impersonators (like you).
    I'm actually a female born with a penis. My personality is much more
    important than DNA and what I have between legs.

    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.

    You can pretend to be one but you'll never be one.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Wed Oct 27 14:05:35 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 2021-10-27 2:01 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 19:15:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/24/21 12:19 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:21:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/21/21 10:27 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:25:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/20/21 5:39 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and >>>>>>> marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every >>>>>>> host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.


    You back to a Jewish conspiracy theories when you are afraid of the >>>>>> truth. To you, *anything* that does brush your beliefs even a bit is a >>>>>> leftist conspiracy.

    You dismiss DNA reality because you are afraid of your delusions being >>>>> exposed as such. To you, any truth or exposure of your delusions is >>>>> a rightist conspiracy.

    Gender identity is imprinted in your brain during pregnancy through
    hormones you get exposed to. My brain was probably bombarded with
    estrogen while I was here inside my mom (which unfortunately passed away >>>> long time ago).

    And yet you were born male and will always remain male. With,
    apparently, a fucked up brain/'personality'.


    No, I'm a transgender female.

    No, you're not. You're a delusional male. Get a fucking DNA test
    (i.e. science) and it'll prove you're male.

    It's a gift from my nature, but at the
    same time I'm pissed off that I have to spend a several hours shaving,
    putting makeup, practicing voice everyday and what sucks, dealing with
    transphobia. And it's all worth it.

    Being a female impersonator is a lot of work, no doubt about it. But
    at the end of the day you're still a delusional male pretending to be
    female.

    To make matters different, she is actually a transphobe, just like you >>>>>> are. You *choose* to be ignorant and should you realize you're
    transgender, you would go to a non-affirming therapists despite lack of >>>>>> evidence that anything besides gender-affirmation works.

    If 'transbenders' as opposed to female impersonators actually existed, >>>>> you might have a case for 'transphobia', but they don't.

    Yes, and gender dysphoria is evidence of that. Not all trans people are >>>> dysphoric, though. have you ever read WPATH Standards of Care?
    Conservatives like you are unable to logically refute it.

    Delusional 'transbenders' like you are allergic to reality and immune
    to it.


    The reality is that transgender people are real.

    They are really delusional is what you're saying.

    Should your child come
    out as transgender, what would you choose - evidence-based
    gender-affirming care or conversion therapy quackery? You should
    /affirm/ anybody's identity, no matter what, but it doesn't mean you
    have to allow the person get on puberty blockers or hormones (you cannot
    have surgery under 18 anyway, unless you are very VERY mature and are in
    serious danger when it can be justified).

    No child of mine will ever be delusional enough to think they can
    change sex.

    If you let real* quacks from http://gendercriticalresources.com/ destroy
    your child's life, expect your child to leave you forever once they turn
    18 only to transition in safe place away from you. You will see they
    won't regret it (unless you are very unlucky, that's it).

    No child of mine will ever need a 'gender quack'.

    Talk with a gender therapist in your area if you have time and can
    afford it (extra points if your insurance covers gender therapy), but
    make sure that they are *affirming* of gender variance. They won't push
    you into transitioning, trust me. And when they recommend you to
    transition, they are right 99% of the time.

    I have absolutely no time for 'gender therapist' or anyone else
    involved in marketing/promoting 'gender appropriation'..which is ALL
    you're doing.

    If it's scary for you, then you're severely misinformed. You cannot >>>>>> trust right-wing media when it comes to transgender issues. Transgender >>>>>> regret is *way* overblown in right-wing media and I'd rather take a 2% >>>>>> chance of regret over experimenting with unproven crankery from
    http://reddit.com/r/detrans/. There is a reason why "alternative
    treatments for gender dysphoria" are called _alternative_ - there is >>>>>> simply *no* evidence that they work.

    You cannot trust left-wing 'woke' media when it comes to 'transbender' >>>>> issues. There is no such thing as 'gender dysphoria' separate from
    'gender appropriation'.


    Bullshit. People were gender dysphoric since the beginning of time. It's >>>> just that people with it were repressed in modern Western world.

    Horseshit. 'Gender dysphoria' does not exist except as a form of
    severe mental illness, which is more acceptable these days than
    before.

    And the only known treatment is *transition*. Gender therapists are
    there for reason - their goal is to help you explore your gender
    identity, minimize possible regret and so on. They get a lot of hate
    from idiots like you.

    'Transition' from one sex to another is physically impossible. Only delusional cretins like you think otherwise.

    Despite what the Right said to you, you *won't* get a hormone/surgery
    letter even if you tried (you are probably cisgender), try to get one
    and lie your teeth out to one if you don't believe me. I attempted it
    for fun. I received a letter that I *wasn't* elgible for hormones due to
    obvious reasons.

    Hormones won't help your delusions, they will only reinforce them

    Sure, my gender clinic is informed consent, but I make a conscious
    choice *not* to get on hormones because I don't know whether they are
    right for me yet. The only reason I'm really using it is to see a gender
    therapist (which, unlike you, actually knows what they are doing) and
    get a voice training.

    Get all the voice training you want. One look at your Adam's apple
    will tell anyone that you're male.

    It's better to go with stuff that has been proven to work rather than
    experiment with alternative methods that *might* work. The methods of
    coping with GD from http://reddit.com/r/detrans might work, but they
    only do until they don't work and the victims of this fucked up webshite >>>> will end up with even greater regrets because their bodies have
    masculinized/feminized beyond all hope.

    They are *mostly* transgender people who ignore the scientific consensus >>>> on being transgender and repress their identities. If you don't believe >>>> me, there is evidence:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qd31pn/i_could_really_use_some_advice_that_doesnt/

    Need more?

    I need proof that it's actually possible to 'transition' from male to
    female in the first place. DNA says it isn't.

    Changing DNA isn't the goal - it doesn't matter anyway. You can get
    hormones and surgery to change some of your sex characteristics to some
    degree. The earlier you can get on them, the better results you can get.
    That's what puberty blockers are for if you are under 18 and you are not
    mature enough to make this kind of decision.

    Changing DNA is the ONLY way you'll ever get to 'transition' from one
    sex to another. Everything else is horseshit, pure and simple.

    You might be able to get your child of hormones (if they are mature
    enough to make this kind of decision) if they are at least 16 (or
    younger in some exceptions), but you gotta go through gender therapy
    first and get diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Nobody with some oil in
    their head will instantly push medical transition to minors.

    Medical transition is pointless. Remove male genitalia and you become
    a castrated male with a penectomy...definitely NOT a female.

    Gender therapists aren't all that scary - those who smear them are >>>>>> idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

    'Gender therapists' are quacks and chalatans. Those who trust them are >>>>> gullible and vulnerable assholes.

    Depends which gender therapist you pick. Some are outright idiots,
    others will actually work for you.

    ANY 'therapist' that believes in this horseshit and markets/promotes
    it is a quack.

    That's why I believe it should be illegal to practice gender
    non-affirming care in America - there are still too many idiots who seek
    it for themselves, or worse, children.

    I believe it should be illegal to practise 'gender appropriation'.
    There are still too many delusional idiots doing it.

    Have you ever read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C.
    Chang? It's written by people who know what they are talking about. Once >>>> you read it, you will realize that almost all TERF/conservative claims >>>> on trans people are bullshit. This book is exactly the reason why I
    explicitly picked a gender therapist that actually knows who she is doing. >>>
    Have you ever met reality? You're MALE...get used to it.

    I'm a transgender female, have you heard that? I have a penis and can
    make children, but it doesn't make me any less female. You cannot get me
    pregnant.

    You're a delusional male, as your penis will tell you. Not all
    females can get pregnant, you as a male certainly can't.

    There are two types of people: those who support gender-affirming care >>>> and those who don't know what they are talking about. *Anyone* who
    pushes *anything* else than gender-affirmation (for example Kenny
    Zucker) is an idiot.

    Anyone who pushes 'gender appropriation' is a cretin and/or delusional
    and/or mentally ill.

    Of course I do not trust *any* therapist - however, I picked a gender
    therapist after getting through with a healthy dose of skepticism.
    Normal therapists also should work if you are too ignorant to get a
    gender one.

    If they even HINT at believing in the 'gender appropriation' you are
    indulging in, they are quacks.

    Bullshit. Then why gender-affirming care is recommended by pretty much
    any bigger medical body in the world? The only people who are against is
    are like those who don't know what they are talking about:

    https://www.reveddit.com/v/detrans/comments/cs17x7/afab_15_year_old_teen_questioning_myself_again/exc0605/#t1_exc0605

    'Gender affirming' care is 'woke' horseshit of the worst possible
    kind.

    If I was a sysop of this message board, I would immediately change her
    text to "DO NOT FALL FOR MY BULLSHIT". You won't scare me away from my
    gender-affirming therapist.

    It's not going to make you female so you're wasting your fucking time
    and money.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from >>>>>>>> Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust >>>>>>>> data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never
    even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey
    to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia,
    as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender >>>>>>>> dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word:
    bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted
    by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it
    here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf

    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come
    from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5 >>>>>>>> minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless, >>>>>>> sunshine!

    What about cisgender people who are trans allies? Dr. Z PhD is an example.

    'Woke' assholes.

    She bothered to read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C. Chang. >>>
    More 'woke' horseshit.

    Criminialize non-gender affirming care. Doesn't matter several thousands
    might get ran over by gender-affirming system, saving lives of hundreds
    of thousands of trans people is more important. *Anyone* inflating the
    numbers is a crank.

    Criminalise 'gender appropriation' instead. It's doing untold harm to thousands of gullible and impressionable children.

    I'm myself going to a gender-affirming therapy and honestly, claims of >>>>>> just affirming an individual as-it-is are nothing more than first-grade >>>>>> bullshit. There are two types of people: those who support
    gender-affirming care and those who are idiots (like you).

    Gender Dysphoria Affirmative Working Group https://www.gdaworkinggroup.com/

    There are actually two types of males: normal people and delusional >>>>> female impersonators (like you).
    I'm actually a female born with a penis. My personality is much more
    important than DNA and what I have between legs.

    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.

    You can pretend to be one but you'll never be one.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    oh no , here come mucker head wills

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  • From Absurd Burd@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Wed Oct 27 23:11:15 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    Skeeter <Scoot@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    [another nads denier] wrote:

    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.

    Plonk

    'zackly.

    --
    Absurd Burd <https://tinyurl.com/ht3733er>

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Wed Oct 27 23:35:29 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:06:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 2:01 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>> Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the >>>> following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    You don't got one.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    hiding it in your mouth won't work

    Thump yourself on the head and they MAY descend.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Wed Oct 27 23:36:50 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:05:35 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 2:01 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 19:15:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/24/21 12:19 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:21:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/21/21 10:27 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:25:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/20/21 5:39 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and >>>>>>>> marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every >>>>>>>> host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.


    You back to a Jewish conspiracy theories when you are afraid of the >>>>>>> truth. To you, *anything* that does brush your beliefs even a bit is a >>>>>>> leftist conspiracy.

    You dismiss DNA reality because you are afraid of your delusions being >>>>>> exposed as such. To you, any truth or exposure of your delusions is >>>>>> a rightist conspiracy.

    Gender identity is imprinted in your brain during pregnancy through
    hormones you get exposed to. My brain was probably bombarded with
    estrogen while I was here inside my mom (which unfortunately passed away >>>>> long time ago).

    And yet you were born male and will always remain male. With,
    apparently, a fucked up brain/'personality'.


    No, I'm a transgender female.

    No, you're not. You're a delusional male. Get a fucking DNA test
    (i.e. science) and it'll prove you're male.

    It's a gift from my nature, but at the
    same time I'm pissed off that I have to spend a several hours shaving,
    putting makeup, practicing voice everyday and what sucks, dealing with
    transphobia. And it's all worth it.

    Being a female impersonator is a lot of work, no doubt about it. But
    at the end of the day you're still a delusional male pretending to be
    female.

    To make matters different, she is actually a transphobe, just like you >>>>>>> are. You *choose* to be ignorant and should you realize you're
    transgender, you would go to a non-affirming therapists despite lack of >>>>>>> evidence that anything besides gender-affirmation works.

    If 'transbenders' as opposed to female impersonators actually existed, >>>>>> you might have a case for 'transphobia', but they don't.

    Yes, and gender dysphoria is evidence of that. Not all trans people are >>>>> dysphoric, though. have you ever read WPATH Standards of Care?
    Conservatives like you are unable to logically refute it.

    Delusional 'transbenders' like you are allergic to reality and immune
    to it.


    The reality is that transgender people are real.

    They are really delusional is what you're saying.

    Should your child come
    out as transgender, what would you choose - evidence-based
    gender-affirming care or conversion therapy quackery? You should
    /affirm/ anybody's identity, no matter what, but it doesn't mean you
    have to allow the person get on puberty blockers or hormones (you cannot >>> have surgery under 18 anyway, unless you are very VERY mature and are in >>> serious danger when it can be justified).

    No child of mine will ever be delusional enough to think they can
    change sex.

    If you let real* quacks from http://gendercriticalresources.com/ destroy >>> your child's life, expect your child to leave you forever once they turn >>> 18 only to transition in safe place away from you. You will see they
    won't regret it (unless you are very unlucky, that's it).

    No child of mine will ever need a 'gender quack'.

    Talk with a gender therapist in your area if you have time and can
    afford it (extra points if your insurance covers gender therapy), but
    make sure that they are *affirming* of gender variance. They won't push
    you into transitioning, trust me. And when they recommend you to
    transition, they are right 99% of the time.

    I have absolutely no time for 'gender therapist' or anyone else
    involved in marketing/promoting 'gender appropriation'..which is ALL
    you're doing.

    If it's scary for you, then you're severely misinformed. You cannot >>>>>>> trust right-wing media when it comes to transgender issues. Transgender >>>>>>> regret is *way* overblown in right-wing media and I'd rather take a 2% >>>>>>> chance of regret over experimenting with unproven crankery from
    http://reddit.com/r/detrans/. There is a reason why "alternative >>>>>>> treatments for gender dysphoria" are called _alternative_ - there is >>>>>>> simply *no* evidence that they work.

    You cannot trust left-wing 'woke' media when it comes to 'transbender' >>>>>> issues. There is no such thing as 'gender dysphoria' separate from >>>>>> 'gender appropriation'.


    Bullshit. People were gender dysphoric since the beginning of time. It's >>>>> just that people with it were repressed in modern Western world.

    Horseshit. 'Gender dysphoria' does not exist except as a form of
    severe mental illness, which is more acceptable these days than
    before.

    And the only known treatment is *transition*. Gender therapists are
    there for reason - their goal is to help you explore your gender
    identity, minimize possible regret and so on. They get a lot of hate >>>from idiots like you.

    'Transition' from one sex to another is physically impossible. Only
    delusional cretins like you think otherwise.

    Despite what the Right said to you, you *won't* get a hormone/surgery
    letter even if you tried (you are probably cisgender), try to get one
    and lie your teeth out to one if you don't believe me. I attempted it
    for fun. I received a letter that I *wasn't* elgible for hormones due to >>> obvious reasons.

    Hormones won't help your delusions, they will only reinforce them

    Sure, my gender clinic is informed consent, but I make a conscious
    choice *not* to get on hormones because I don't know whether they are
    right for me yet. The only reason I'm really using it is to see a gender >>> therapist (which, unlike you, actually knows what they are doing) and
    get a voice training.

    Get all the voice training you want. One look at your Adam's apple
    will tell anyone that you're male.

    It's better to go with stuff that has been proven to work rather than >>>>> experiment with alternative methods that *might* work. The methods of >>>>> coping with GD from http://reddit.com/r/detrans might work, but they >>>>> only do until they don't work and the victims of this fucked up webshite >>>>> will end up with even greater regrets because their bodies have
    masculinized/feminized beyond all hope.

    They are *mostly* transgender people who ignore the scientific consensus >>>>> on being transgender and repress their identities. If you don't believe >>>>> me, there is evidence:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qd31pn/i_could_really_use_some_advice_that_doesnt/

    Need more?

    I need proof that it's actually possible to 'transition' from male to
    female in the first place. DNA says it isn't.

    Changing DNA isn't the goal - it doesn't matter anyway. You can get
    hormones and surgery to change some of your sex characteristics to some
    degree. The earlier you can get on them, the better results you can get. >>> That's what puberty blockers are for if you are under 18 and you are not >>> mature enough to make this kind of decision.

    Changing DNA is the ONLY way you'll ever get to 'transition' from one
    sex to another. Everything else is horseshit, pure and simple.

    You might be able to get your child of hormones (if they are mature
    enough to make this kind of decision) if they are at least 16 (or
    younger in some exceptions), but you gotta go through gender therapy
    first and get diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Nobody with some oil in
    their head will instantly push medical transition to minors.

    Medical transition is pointless. Remove male genitalia and you become
    a castrated male with a penectomy...definitely NOT a female.

    Gender therapists aren't all that scary - those who smear them are >>>>>>> idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

    'Gender therapists' are quacks and chalatans. Those who trust them are >>>>>> gullible and vulnerable assholes.

    Depends which gender therapist you pick. Some are outright idiots,
    others will actually work for you.

    ANY 'therapist' that believes in this horseshit and markets/promotes
    it is a quack.

    That's why I believe it should be illegal to practice gender
    non-affirming care in America - there are still too many idiots who seek >>> it for themselves, or worse, children.

    I believe it should be illegal to practise 'gender appropriation'.
    There are still too many delusional idiots doing it.

    Have you ever read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C.
    Chang? It's written by people who know what they are talking about. Once >>>>> you read it, you will realize that almost all TERF/conservative claims >>>>> on trans people are bullshit. This book is exactly the reason why I
    explicitly picked a gender therapist that actually knows who she is doing.

    Have you ever met reality? You're MALE...get used to it.

    I'm a transgender female, have you heard that? I have a penis and can
    make children, but it doesn't make me any less female. You cannot get me >>> pregnant.

    You're a delusional male, as your penis will tell you. Not all
    females can get pregnant, you as a male certainly can't.

    There are two types of people: those who support gender-affirming care >>>>> and those who don't know what they are talking about. *Anyone* who
    pushes *anything* else than gender-affirmation (for example Kenny
    Zucker) is an idiot.

    Anyone who pushes 'gender appropriation' is a cretin and/or delusional >>>> and/or mentally ill.

    Of course I do not trust *any* therapist - however, I picked a gender >>>>> therapist after getting through with a healthy dose of skepticism.
    Normal therapists also should work if you are too ignorant to get a
    gender one.

    If they even HINT at believing in the 'gender appropriation' you are
    indulging in, they are quacks.

    Bullshit. Then why gender-affirming care is recommended by pretty much
    any bigger medical body in the world? The only people who are against is >>> are like those who don't know what they are talking about:

    https://www.reveddit.com/v/detrans/comments/cs17x7/afab_15_year_old_teen_questioning_myself_again/exc0605/#t1_exc0605

    'Gender affirming' care is 'woke' horseshit of the worst possible
    kind.

    If I was a sysop of this message board, I would immediately change her
    text to "DO NOT FALL FOR MY BULLSHIT". You won't scare me away from my
    gender-affirming therapist.

    It's not going to make you female so you're wasting your fucking time
    and money.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from >>>>>>>>> Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust
    data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never
    even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey
    to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia,
    as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender >>>>>>>>> dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word:
    bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted
    by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it
    here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf

    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come
    from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5 >>>>>>>>> minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless, >>>>>>>> sunshine!

    What about cisgender people who are trans allies? Dr. Z PhD is an example.

    'Woke' assholes.

    She bothered to read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care - >>>>> Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C. Chang.

    More 'woke' horseshit.

    Criminialize non-gender affirming care. Doesn't matter several thousands >>> might get ran over by gender-affirming system, saving lives of hundreds
    of thousands of trans people is more important. *Anyone* inflating the
    numbers is a crank.

    Criminalise 'gender appropriation' instead. It's doing untold harm to
    thousands of gullible and impressionable children.

    I'm myself going to a gender-affirming therapy and honestly, claims of >>>>>>> just affirming an individual as-it-is are nothing more than first-grade >>>>>>> bullshit. There are two types of people: those who support
    gender-affirming care and those who are idiots (like you).

    Gender Dysphoria Affirmative Working Group https://www.gdaworkinggroup.com/

    There are actually two types of males: normal people and delusional >>>>>> female impersonators (like you).
    I'm actually a female born with a penis. My personality is much more >>>>> important than DNA and what I have between legs.

    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.

    You can pretend to be one but you'll never be one.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    oh no , here come mucker head wills

    Oh no, here comes the fake pissant.
    --
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    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Wed Oct 27 23:34:29 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 20:46:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/27/21 8:34 PM, Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
    Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % had the audacity to say the following: >>


    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>> Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the >>>> following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    It's missing a chunk, but you can claim it's "ribbed for her pleasure".

    You cannot instantly get surgery. You have to be at least 18, be
    diagnosed with gender dysphoria, be on hormones and live as your
    affirmed gender for 1 year before.

    Surgery is pointless...once a man always a man, albeit a castrated one
    with a penectomy...and possibly a fake vagina to piss through that
    neither looks nor feels like the real thing.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Wed Oct 27 15:41:39 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 2021-10-27 3:34 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 20:46:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/27/21 8:34 PM, Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
    Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % had the audacity to say the following:



    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>>> Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the >>>>> following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    It's missing a chunk, but you can claim it's "ribbed for her pleasure".

    You cannot instantly get surgery. You have to be at least 18, be
    diagnosed with gender dysphoria, be on hormones and live as your
    affirmed gender for 1 year before.

    Surgery is pointless...once a man always a man, albeit a castrated one
    with a penectomy...and possibly a fake vagina to piss through that
    neither looks nor feels like the real thing.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    kwill , head penis inspector

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Wed Oct 27 15:42:45 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 2021-10-27 3:35 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:06:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 2:01 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>>> Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the >>>>> following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    You don't got one.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    hiding it in your mouth won't work

    Thump yourself on the head and they MAY descend.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    nah , you'll just swallow it down deeper and gum me to death

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  • From Checkmate@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 27 16:18:42 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 15:42:45 -0700, % had the audacity to say the following:



    On 2021-10-27 3:35 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:06:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 2:01 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>>> Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the >>>>> following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    You don't got one.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    hiding it in your mouth won't work

    Thump yourself on the head and they MAY descend.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    nah , you'll just swallow it down deeper and gum me to death

    This is weigh too geigh.

    --
    Checkmate
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Fri Oct 29 01:15:39 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 15:41:39 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 3:34 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 20:46:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/27/21 8:34 PM, Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>> Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % had the audacity to say the following:



    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>>>> Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the >>>>>> following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    It's missing a chunk, but you can claim it's "ribbed for her pleasure". >>>>
    You cannot instantly get surgery. You have to be at least 18, be
    diagnosed with gender dysphoria, be on hormones and live as your
    affirmed gender for 1 year before.

    Surgery is pointless...once a man always a man, albeit a castrated one
    with a penectomy...and possibly a fake vagina to piss through that
    neither looks nor feels like the real thing.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    kwill , head penis inspector

    %, penis anal recipient.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Fri Oct 29 01:16:31 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 15:42:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 3:35 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:06:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 2:01 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>>>> Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the >>>>>> following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    You don't got one.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    hiding it in your mouth won't work

    Thump yourself on the head and they MAY descend.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    nah , you'll just swallow it down deeper and gum me to death

    Nah, if they haven't descended yet, they never will.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Oct 28 17:30:02 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 2021-10-28 5:16 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 15:42:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 3:35 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:06:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 2:01 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>>>>> Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the >>>>>>> following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    You don't got one.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    hiding it in your mouth won't work

    Thump yourself on the head and they MAY descend.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    nah , you'll just swallow it down deeper and gum me to death

    Nah, if they haven't descended yet, they never will.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    try not talking and gulping at the same time

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Oct 28 17:28:41 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 2021-10-28 5:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 15:41:39 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 3:34 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 20:46:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/27/21 8:34 PM, Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>>> Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % had the audacity to say the following:



    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>>>>> Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the >>>>>>> following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    It's missing a chunk, but you can claim it's "ribbed for her pleasure". >>>>>
    You cannot instantly get surgery. You have to be at least 18, be
    diagnosed with gender dysphoria, be on hormones and live as your
    affirmed gender for 1 year before.

    Surgery is pointless...once a man always a man, albeit a castrated one
    with a penectomy...and possibly a fake vagina to piss through that
    neither looks nor feels like the real thing.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    kwill , head penis inspector

    %, penis anal recipient.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    there's more of his penis inspecting

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rockinghorse Winner@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Fri Oct 29 00:31:51 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 2021-10-27, Scientific (she/her) <science@is.truth> wrote:
    On 10/24/21 12:19 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:21:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/21/21 10:27 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:25:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/20/21 5:39 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and
    marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every >>>>>> host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.


    You back to a Jewish conspiracy theories when you are afraid of the
    truth. To you, *anything* that does brush your beliefs even a bit is a >>>>> leftist conspiracy.

    You dismiss DNA reality because you are afraid of your delusions being >>>> exposed as such. To you, any truth or exposure of your delusions is
    a rightist conspiracy.

    Gender identity is imprinted in your brain during pregnancy through
    hormones you get exposed to. My brain was probably bombarded with
    estrogen while I was here inside my mom (which unfortunately passed away >>> long time ago).

    And yet you were born male and will always remain male. With,
    apparently, a fucked up brain/'personality'.


    No, I'm a transgender female. It's a gift from my nature, but at the
    same time I'm pissed off that I have to spend a several hours shaving, putting makeup, practicing voice everyday and what sucks, dealing with transphobia. And it's all worth it.

    To make matters different, she is actually a transphobe, just like you >>>>> are. You *choose* to be ignorant and should you realize you're
    transgender, you would go to a non-affirming therapists despite lack of >>>>> evidence that anything besides gender-affirmation works.

    If 'transbenders' as opposed to female impersonators actually existed, >>>> you might have a case for 'transphobia', but they don't.

    Yes, and gender dysphoria is evidence of that. Not all trans people are
    dysphoric, though. have you ever read WPATH Standards of Care?
    Conservatives like you are unable to logically refute it.

    Delusional 'transbenders' like you are allergic to reality and immune
    to it.


    The reality is that transgender people are real. Should your child come
    out as transgender, what would you choose - evidence-based
    gender-affirming care or conversion therapy quackery? You should
    /affirm/ anybody's identity, no matter what, but it doesn't mean you
    have to allow the person get on puberty blockers or hormones (you cannot
    have surgery under 18 anyway, unless you are very VERY mature and are in serious danger when it can be justified).

    If you let real* quacks from http://gendercriticalresources.com/ destroy
    your child's life, expect your child to leave you forever once they turn
    18 only to transition in safe place away from you. You will see they
    won't regret it (unless you are very unlucky, that's it).

    Talk with a gender therapist in your area if you have time and can
    afford it (extra points if your insurance covers gender therapy), but
    make sure that they are *affirming* of gender variance. They won't push
    you into transitioning, trust me. And when they recommend you to
    transition, they are right 99% of the time.

    If it's scary for you, then you're severely misinformed. You cannot
    trust right-wing media when it comes to transgender issues. Transgender >>>>> regret is *way* overblown in right-wing media and I'd rather take a 2% >>>>> chance of regret over experimenting with unproven crankery from
    http://reddit.com/r/detrans/. There is a reason why "alternative
    treatments for gender dysphoria" are called _alternative_ - there is >>>>> simply *no* evidence that they work.

    You cannot trust left-wing 'woke' media when it comes to 'transbender' >>>> issues. There is no such thing as 'gender dysphoria' separate from
    'gender appropriation'.


    Bullshit. People were gender dysphoric since the beginning of time. It's >>> just that people with it were repressed in modern Western world.

    Horseshit. 'Gender dysphoria' does not exist except as a form of
    severe mental illness, which is more acceptable these days than
    before.

    And the only known treatment is *transition*. Gender therapists are
    there for reason - their goal is to help you explore your gender
    identity, minimize possible regret and so on. They get a lot of hate
    from idiots like you.

    Despite what the Right said to you, you *won't* get a hormone/surgery
    letter even if you tried (you are probably cisgender), try to get one
    and lie your teeth out to one if you don't believe me. I attempted it
    for fun. I received a letter that I *wasn't* elgible for hormones due to obvious reasons.

    Sure, my gender clinic is informed consent, but I make a conscious
    choice *not* to get on hormones because I don't know whether they are
    right for me yet. The only reason I'm really using it is to see a gender therapist (which, unlike you, actually knows what they are doing) and
    get a voice training.

    It's better to go with stuff that has been proven to work rather than
    experiment with alternative methods that *might* work. The methods of
    coping with GD from http://reddit.com/r/detrans might work, but they
    only do until they don't work and the victims of this fucked up webshite >>> will end up with even greater regrets because their bodies have
    masculinized/feminized beyond all hope.

    They are *mostly* transgender people who ignore the scientific consensus >>> on being transgender and repress their identities. If you don't believe
    me, there is evidence:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qd31pn/i_could_really_use_some_advice_that_doesnt/

    Need more?

    I need proof that it's actually possible to 'transition' from male to
    female in the first place. DNA says it isn't.

    Changing DNA isn't the goal - it doesn't matter anyway. You can get
    hormones and surgery to change some of your sex characteristics to some degree. The earlier you can get on them, the better results you can get. That's what puberty blockers are for if you are under 18 and you are not mature enough to make this kind of decision.

    You might be able to get your child of hormones (if they are mature
    enough to make this kind of decision) if they are at least 16 (or
    younger in some exceptions), but you gotta go through gender therapy
    first and get diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Nobody with some oil in
    their head will instantly push medical transition to minors.

    Gender therapists aren't all that scary - those who smear them are
    idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

    'Gender therapists' are quacks and chalatans. Those who trust them are >>>> gullible and vulnerable assholes.

    Depends which gender therapist you pick. Some are outright idiots,
    others will actually work for you.

    ANY 'therapist' that believes in this horseshit and markets/promotes
    it is a quack.

    That's why I believe it should be illegal to practice gender
    non-affirming care in America - there are still too many idiots who seek
    it for themselves, or worse, children.

    Have you ever read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C.
    Chang? It's written by people who know what they are talking about. Once >>> you read it, you will realize that almost all TERF/conservative claims
    on trans people are bullshit. This book is exactly the reason why I
    explicitly picked a gender therapist that actually knows who she is doing. >>
    Have you ever met reality? You're MALE...get used to it.

    I'm a transgender female, have you heard that? I have a penis and can
    make children, but it doesn't make me any less female. You cannot get me pregnant.

    There are two types of people: those who support gender-affirming care
    and those who don't know what they are talking about. *Anyone* who
    pushes *anything* else than gender-affirmation (for example Kenny
    Zucker) is an idiot.

    Anyone who pushes 'gender appropriation' is a cretin and/or delusional
    and/or mentally ill.

    Of course I do not trust *any* therapist - however, I picked a gender
    therapist after getting through with a healthy dose of skepticism.
    Normal therapists also should work if you are too ignorant to get a
    gender one.

    If they even HINT at believing in the 'gender appropriation' you are
    indulging in, they are quacks.

    Bullshit. Then why gender-affirming care is recommended by pretty much
    any bigger medical body in the world? The only people who are against is
    are like those who don't know what they are talking about:

    https://www.reveddit.com/v/detrans/comments/cs17x7/afab_15_year_old_teen_questioning_myself_again/exc0605/#t1_exc0605

    If I was a sysop of this message board, I would immediately change her
    text to "DO NOT FALL FOR MY BULLSHIT". You won't scare me away from my gender-affirming therapist.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from >>>>>>> Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust >>>>>>> data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never >>>>>>> even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey
    to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia,
    as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender >>>>>>> dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word:
    bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted >>>>>>> by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it
    here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf

    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come >>>>>> >from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5 >>>>>>> minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless,
    sunshine!

    What about cisgender people who are trans allies? Dr. Z PhD is an example.

    'Woke' assholes.

    She bothered to read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C. Chang. >>
    More 'woke' horseshit.

    Criminialize non-gender affirming care. Doesn't matter several thousands might get ran over by gender-affirming system, saving lives of hundreds
    of thousands of trans people is more important. *Anyone* inflating the numbers is a crank.

    I'm myself going to a gender-affirming therapy and honestly, claims of >>>>> just affirming an individual as-it-is are nothing more than first-grade >>>>> bullshit. There are two types of people: those who support
    gender-affirming care and those who are idiots (like you).

    Gender Dysphoria Affirmative Working Group https://www.gdaworkinggroup.com/

    There are actually two types of males: normal people and delusional
    female impersonators (like you).
    I'm actually a female born with a penis. My personality is much more
    important than DNA and what I have between legs.

    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/




    You can transition to a horse for all I care. Just don't seek my approval because I think you're insane. Bless you.

    --
    "Many have sought in vain to tell joyously of the Most Joyous. Now at last It declares Itself to me, now in this misery." - Holderlin

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to Rockinghorse Winner on Thu Oct 28 18:33:34 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 2021-10-28 5:31 p.m., Rockinghorse Winner wrote:
    On 2021-10-27, Scientific (she/her) <science@is.truth> wrote:
    On 10/24/21 12:19 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:21:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/21/21 10:27 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:25:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/20/21 5:39 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and >>>>>>> marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every >>>>>>> host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.


    You back to a Jewish conspiracy theories when you are afraid of the >>>>>> truth. To you, *anything* that does brush your beliefs even a bit is a >>>>>> leftist conspiracy.

    You dismiss DNA reality because you are afraid of your delusions being >>>>> exposed as such. To you, any truth or exposure of your delusions is >>>>> a rightist conspiracy.

    Gender identity is imprinted in your brain during pregnancy through
    hormones you get exposed to. My brain was probably bombarded with
    estrogen while I was here inside my mom (which unfortunately passed away >>>> long time ago).

    And yet you were born male and will always remain male. With,
    apparently, a fucked up brain/'personality'.


    No, I'm a transgender female. It's a gift from my nature, but at the
    same time I'm pissed off that I have to spend a several hours shaving,
    putting makeup, practicing voice everyday and what sucks, dealing with
    transphobia. And it's all worth it.

    To make matters different, she is actually a transphobe, just like you >>>>>> are. You *choose* to be ignorant and should you realize you're
    transgender, you would go to a non-affirming therapists despite lack of >>>>>> evidence that anything besides gender-affirmation works.

    If 'transbenders' as opposed to female impersonators actually existed, >>>>> you might have a case for 'transphobia', but they don't.

    Yes, and gender dysphoria is evidence of that. Not all trans people are >>>> dysphoric, though. have you ever read WPATH Standards of Care?
    Conservatives like you are unable to logically refute it.

    Delusional 'transbenders' like you are allergic to reality and immune
    to it.


    The reality is that transgender people are real. Should your child come
    out as transgender, what would you choose - evidence-based
    gender-affirming care or conversion therapy quackery? You should
    /affirm/ anybody's identity, no matter what, but it doesn't mean you
    have to allow the person get on puberty blockers or hormones (you cannot
    have surgery under 18 anyway, unless you are very VERY mature and are in
    serious danger when it can be justified).

    If you let real* quacks from http://gendercriticalresources.com/ destroy
    your child's life, expect your child to leave you forever once they turn
    18 only to transition in safe place away from you. You will see they
    won't regret it (unless you are very unlucky, that's it).

    Talk with a gender therapist in your area if you have time and can
    afford it (extra points if your insurance covers gender therapy), but
    make sure that they are *affirming* of gender variance. They won't push
    you into transitioning, trust me. And when they recommend you to
    transition, they are right 99% of the time.

    If it's scary for you, then you're severely misinformed. You cannot >>>>>> trust right-wing media when it comes to transgender issues. Transgender >>>>>> regret is *way* overblown in right-wing media and I'd rather take a 2% >>>>>> chance of regret over experimenting with unproven crankery from
    http://reddit.com/r/detrans/. There is a reason why "alternative
    treatments for gender dysphoria" are called _alternative_ - there is >>>>>> simply *no* evidence that they work.

    You cannot trust left-wing 'woke' media when it comes to 'transbender' >>>>> issues. There is no such thing as 'gender dysphoria' separate from
    'gender appropriation'.


    Bullshit. People were gender dysphoric since the beginning of time. It's >>>> just that people with it were repressed in modern Western world.

    Horseshit. 'Gender dysphoria' does not exist except as a form of
    severe mental illness, which is more acceptable these days than
    before.

    And the only known treatment is *transition*. Gender therapists are
    there for reason - their goal is to help you explore your gender
    identity, minimize possible regret and so on. They get a lot of hate
    from idiots like you.

    Despite what the Right said to you, you *won't* get a hormone/surgery
    letter even if you tried (you are probably cisgender), try to get one
    and lie your teeth out to one if you don't believe me. I attempted it
    for fun. I received a letter that I *wasn't* elgible for hormones due to
    obvious reasons.

    Sure, my gender clinic is informed consent, but I make a conscious
    choice *not* to get on hormones because I don't know whether they are
    right for me yet. The only reason I'm really using it is to see a gender
    therapist (which, unlike you, actually knows what they are doing) and
    get a voice training.

    It's better to go with stuff that has been proven to work rather than
    experiment with alternative methods that *might* work. The methods of
    coping with GD from http://reddit.com/r/detrans might work, but they
    only do until they don't work and the victims of this fucked up webshite >>>> will end up with even greater regrets because their bodies have
    masculinized/feminized beyond all hope.

    They are *mostly* transgender people who ignore the scientific consensus >>>> on being transgender and repress their identities. If you don't believe >>>> me, there is evidence:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qd31pn/i_could_really_use_some_advice_that_doesnt/

    Need more?

    I need proof that it's actually possible to 'transition' from male to
    female in the first place. DNA says it isn't.

    Changing DNA isn't the goal - it doesn't matter anyway. You can get
    hormones and surgery to change some of your sex characteristics to some
    degree. The earlier you can get on them, the better results you can get.
    That's what puberty blockers are for if you are under 18 and you are not
    mature enough to make this kind of decision.

    You might be able to get your child of hormones (if they are mature
    enough to make this kind of decision) if they are at least 16 (or
    younger in some exceptions), but you gotta go through gender therapy
    first and get diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Nobody with some oil in
    their head will instantly push medical transition to minors.

    Gender therapists aren't all that scary - those who smear them are >>>>>> idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

    'Gender therapists' are quacks and chalatans. Those who trust them are >>>>> gullible and vulnerable assholes.

    Depends which gender therapist you pick. Some are outright idiots,
    others will actually work for you.

    ANY 'therapist' that believes in this horseshit and markets/promotes
    it is a quack.

    That's why I believe it should be illegal to practice gender
    non-affirming care in America - there are still too many idiots who seek
    it for themselves, or worse, children.

    Have you ever read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C.
    Chang? It's written by people who know what they are talking about. Once >>>> you read it, you will realize that almost all TERF/conservative claims >>>> on trans people are bullshit. This book is exactly the reason why I
    explicitly picked a gender therapist that actually knows who she is doing. >>>
    Have you ever met reality? You're MALE...get used to it.

    I'm a transgender female, have you heard that? I have a penis and can
    make children, but it doesn't make me any less female. You cannot get me
    pregnant.

    There are two types of people: those who support gender-affirming care >>>> and those who don't know what they are talking about. *Anyone* who
    pushes *anything* else than gender-affirmation (for example Kenny
    Zucker) is an idiot.

    Anyone who pushes 'gender appropriation' is a cretin and/or delusional
    and/or mentally ill.

    Of course I do not trust *any* therapist - however, I picked a gender
    therapist after getting through with a healthy dose of skepticism.
    Normal therapists also should work if you are too ignorant to get a
    gender one.

    If they even HINT at believing in the 'gender appropriation' you are
    indulging in, they are quacks.

    Bullshit. Then why gender-affirming care is recommended by pretty much
    any bigger medical body in the world? The only people who are against is
    are like those who don't know what they are talking about:

    https://www.reveddit.com/v/detrans/comments/cs17x7/afab_15_year_old_teen_questioning_myself_again/exc0605/#t1_exc0605

    If I was a sysop of this message board, I would immediately change her
    text to "DO NOT FALL FOR MY BULLSHIT". You won't scare me away from my
    gender-affirming therapist.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from >>>>>>>> Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust >>>>>>>> data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never
    even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey
    to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia,
    as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender >>>>>>>> dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word:
    bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted
    by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it
    here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf

    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come
    from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5 >>>>>>>> minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless, >>>>>>> sunshine!

    What about cisgender people who are trans allies? Dr. Z PhD is an example.

    'Woke' assholes.

    She bothered to read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C. Chang. >>>
    More 'woke' horseshit.

    Criminialize non-gender affirming care. Doesn't matter several thousands
    might get ran over by gender-affirming system, saving lives of hundreds
    of thousands of trans people is more important. *Anyone* inflating the
    numbers is a crank.

    I'm myself going to a gender-affirming therapy and honestly, claims of >>>>>> just affirming an individual as-it-is are nothing more than first-grade >>>>>> bullshit. There are two types of people: those who support
    gender-affirming care and those who are idiots (like you).

    Gender Dysphoria Affirmative Working Group https://www.gdaworkinggroup.com/

    There are actually two types of males: normal people and delusional >>>>> female impersonators (like you).
    I'm actually a female born with a penis. My personality is much more
    important than DNA and what I have between legs.

    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/




    You can transition to a horse for all I care. Just don't seek my approval because I think you're insane. Bless you.

    you can't ride two horses with one ass

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Fri Oct 29 04:17:33 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:30:02 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-28 5:16 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 15:42:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 3:35 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:06:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 2:01 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
    Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the
    following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>>>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    You don't got one.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    hiding it in your mouth won't work

    Thump yourself on the head and they MAY descend.
    --
    KWills
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    nah , you'll just swallow it down deeper and gum me to death

    Nah, if they haven't descended yet, they never will.

    try not talking and gulping at the same time

    Try hitting yourself REALLY hard on the head...if that won't descend
    them, nothing will!
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Fri Oct 29 04:16:11 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:28:41 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-28 5:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 15:41:39 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2021-10-27 3:34 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 20:46:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/27/21 8:34 PM, Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>>>> Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:22:17 -0700, % had the audacity to say the following:



    On 2021-10-27 1:18 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
    Checkmate.

    On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:44:51 -0600, Skeeter had the audacity to say the
    following:


    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches >>>>>>>>>>> what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is >>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.


    Doesn't mean everyone is going to treat you like you're normal if they don't
    desire to. You can't legislate human nature when you go against real nature.
    A lot of females would give their left nut to have a dick.

    they can have mine

    It's missing a chunk, but you can claim it's "ribbed for her pleasure". >>>>>>
    You cannot instantly get surgery. You have to be at least 18, be
    diagnosed with gender dysphoria, be on hormones and live as your
    affirmed gender for 1 year before.

    Surgery is pointless...once a man always a man, albeit a castrated one >>>> with a penectomy...and possibly a fake vagina to piss through that
    neither looks nor feels like the real thing.
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    kwill , head penis inspector

    %, penis anal recipient.

    there's more of his penis inspecting

    You can't inspect them because they're always behind you!
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  • From Checkmate@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 28 20:35:37 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate.

    On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 18:33:34 -0700, % had the audacity to say the following:



    On 2021-10-28 5:31 p.m., Rockinghorse Winner wrote:
    On 2021-10-27, Scientific (she/her) <science@is.truth> wrote:
    On 10/24/21 12:19 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:21:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/21/21 10:27 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:25:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/20/21 5:39 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:11:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qbfphd/new_detransition_paper_published/

    An infamous transphobe and woo-pusher Lisa Littman

    Sounds like a jew name...jews are usually the ones promoting and >>>>>>> marketing sexual disorientations and 'gender appropriation'. In every
    host country they infest...but never in 'Israeel'.


    You back to a Jewish conspiracy theories when you are afraid of the >>>>>> truth. To you, *anything* that does brush your beliefs even a bit is a >>>>>> leftist conspiracy.

    You dismiss DNA reality because you are afraid of your delusions being >>>>> exposed as such. To you, any truth or exposure of your delusions is >>>>> a rightist conspiracy.

    Gender identity is imprinted in your brain during pregnancy through
    hormones you get exposed to. My brain was probably bombarded with
    estrogen while I was here inside my mom (which unfortunately passed away >>>> long time ago).

    And yet you were born male and will always remain male. With,
    apparently, a fucked up brain/'personality'.


    No, I'm a transgender female. It's a gift from my nature, but at the
    same time I'm pissed off that I have to spend a several hours shaving,
    putting makeup, practicing voice everyday and what sucks, dealing with
    transphobia. And it's all worth it.

    To make matters different, she is actually a transphobe, just like you >>>>>> are. You *choose* to be ignorant and should you realize you're
    transgender, you would go to a non-affirming therapists despite lack of
    evidence that anything besides gender-affirmation works.

    If 'transbenders' as opposed to female impersonators actually existed, >>>>> you might have a case for 'transphobia', but they don't.

    Yes, and gender dysphoria is evidence of that. Not all trans people are >>>> dysphoric, though. have you ever read WPATH Standards of Care?
    Conservatives like you are unable to logically refute it.

    Delusional 'transbenders' like you are allergic to reality and immune
    to it.


    The reality is that transgender people are real. Should your child come
    out as transgender, what would you choose - evidence-based
    gender-affirming care or conversion therapy quackery? You should
    /affirm/ anybody's identity, no matter what, but it doesn't mean you
    have to allow the person get on puberty blockers or hormones (you cannot >> have surgery under 18 anyway, unless you are very VERY mature and are in >> serious danger when it can be justified).

    If you let real* quacks from http://gendercriticalresources.com/ destroy >> your child's life, expect your child to leave you forever once they turn >> 18 only to transition in safe place away from you. You will see they
    won't regret it (unless you are very unlucky, that's it).

    Talk with a gender therapist in your area if you have time and can
    afford it (extra points if your insurance covers gender therapy), but
    make sure that they are *affirming* of gender variance. They won't push
    you into transitioning, trust me. And when they recommend you to
    transition, they are right 99% of the time.

    If it's scary for you, then you're severely misinformed. You cannot >>>>>> trust right-wing media when it comes to transgender issues. Transgender
    regret is *way* overblown in right-wing media and I'd rather take a 2% >>>>>> chance of regret over experimenting with unproven crankery from
    http://reddit.com/r/detrans/. There is a reason why "alternative >>>>>> treatments for gender dysphoria" are called _alternative_ - there is >>>>>> simply *no* evidence that they work.

    You cannot trust left-wing 'woke' media when it comes to 'transbender' >>>>> issues. There is no such thing as 'gender dysphoria' separate from >>>>> 'gender appropriation'.


    Bullshit. People were gender dysphoric since the beginning of time. It's >>>> just that people with it were repressed in modern Western world.

    Horseshit. 'Gender dysphoria' does not exist except as a form of
    severe mental illness, which is more acceptable these days than
    before.

    And the only known treatment is *transition*. Gender therapists are
    there for reason - their goal is to help you explore your gender
    identity, minimize possible regret and so on. They get a lot of hate
    from idiots like you.

    Despite what the Right said to you, you *won't* get a hormone/surgery
    letter even if you tried (you are probably cisgender), try to get one
    and lie your teeth out to one if you don't believe me. I attempted it
    for fun. I received a letter that I *wasn't* elgible for hormones due to >> obvious reasons.

    Sure, my gender clinic is informed consent, but I make a conscious
    choice *not* to get on hormones because I don't know whether they are
    right for me yet. The only reason I'm really using it is to see a gender >> therapist (which, unlike you, actually knows what they are doing) and
    get a voice training.

    It's better to go with stuff that has been proven to work rather than >>>> experiment with alternative methods that *might* work. The methods of >>>> coping with GD from http://reddit.com/r/detrans might work, but they >>>> only do until they don't work and the victims of this fucked up webshite >>>> will end up with even greater regrets because their bodies have
    masculinized/feminized beyond all hope.

    They are *mostly* transgender people who ignore the scientific consensus >>>> on being transgender and repress their identities. If you don't believe >>>> me, there is evidence:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/qd31pn/i_could_really_use_some_advice_that_doesnt/

    Need more?

    I need proof that it's actually possible to 'transition' from male to
    female in the first place. DNA says it isn't.

    Changing DNA isn't the goal - it doesn't matter anyway. You can get
    hormones and surgery to change some of your sex characteristics to some
    degree. The earlier you can get on them, the better results you can get. >> That's what puberty blockers are for if you are under 18 and you are not >> mature enough to make this kind of decision.

    You might be able to get your child of hormones (if they are mature
    enough to make this kind of decision) if they are at least 16 (or
    younger in some exceptions), but you gotta go through gender therapy
    first and get diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Nobody with some oil in
    their head will instantly push medical transition to minors.

    Gender therapists aren't all that scary - those who smear them are >>>>>> idiots who don't know what they are talking about.

    'Gender therapists' are quacks and chalatans. Those who trust them are >>>>> gullible and vulnerable assholes.

    Depends which gender therapist you pick. Some are outright idiots,
    others will actually work for you.

    ANY 'therapist' that believes in this horseshit and markets/promotes
    it is a quack.

    That's why I believe it should be illegal to practice gender
    non-affirming care in America - there are still too many idiots who seek >> it for themselves, or worse, children.

    Have you ever read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care -
    Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C.
    Chang? It's written by people who know what they are talking about. Once >>>> you read it, you will realize that almost all TERF/conservative claims >>>> on trans people are bullshit. This book is exactly the reason why I
    explicitly picked a gender therapist that actually knows who she is doing.

    Have you ever met reality? You're MALE...get used to it.

    I'm a transgender female, have you heard that? I have a penis and can
    make children, but it doesn't make me any less female. You cannot get me >> pregnant.

    There are two types of people: those who support gender-affirming care >>>> and those who don't know what they are talking about. *Anyone* who
    pushes *anything* else than gender-affirmation (for example Kenny
    Zucker) is an idiot.

    Anyone who pushes 'gender appropriation' is a cretin and/or delusional >>> and/or mentally ill.

    Of course I do not trust *any* therapist - however, I picked a gender >>>> therapist after getting through with a healthy dose of skepticism.
    Normal therapists also should work if you are too ignorant to get a
    gender one.

    If they even HINT at believing in the 'gender appropriation' you are
    indulging in, they are quacks.

    Bullshit. Then why gender-affirming care is recommended by pretty much
    any bigger medical body in the world? The only people who are against is >> are like those who don't know what they are talking about:

    https://www.reveddit.com/v/detrans/comments/cs17x7/afab_15_year_old_teen_questioning_myself_again/exc0605/#t1_exc0605

    If I was a sysop of this message board, I would immediately change her
    text to "DO NOT FALL FOR MY BULLSHIT". You won't scare me away from my
    gender-affirming therapist.

    has created more
    pseudoscience through gathering data from "detransitioners" from >>>>>>>> Internet hate sites like http://reddit.com/r/detrans. You cannot trust
    data that is probably spoiled by random TERFs and transphobes who never
    even transitioned socially. You should have sent the link to your survey
    to normal transgender websites, those who aren't spoiled by transphobia,
    as detransition-specific resources are full of it.

    As she f*cked it up before by pulling out ROGD (rapid-onset gender >>>>>>>> dysphoria) out of her ass, the whole study can be described in one word:
    bullsh*t. Not only her paper is full of it, most papers that are quoted
    by her are also transphobic bullsh*t.

    If you are willing to go through the heavy bullsh*t, you can download it
    here: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10508-021-02163-w.pdf

    Haven't you thought that one of first criticisms of the study will come
    from a random stranger on *Usenet*, Lisa Littman? It's time for my 5 >>>>>>>> minutes of fame!

    'Criticism' from a delusional 'transbender' male is meaningless, >>>>>>> sunshine!

    What about cisgender people who are trans allies? Dr. Z PhD is an example.

    'Woke' assholes.

    She bothered to read "A Clinician's Guide to Gender-Affirming Care - >>>> Working With Transgender & Gender Nonconforming Clients" by Sand C. Chang.

    More 'woke' horseshit.

    Criminialize non-gender affirming care. Doesn't matter several thousands >> might get ran over by gender-affirming system, saving lives of hundreds
    of thousands of trans people is more important. *Anyone* inflating the
    numbers is a crank.

    I'm myself going to a gender-affirming therapy and honestly, claims of >>>>>> just affirming an individual as-it-is are nothing more than first-grade
    bullshit. There are two types of people: those who support
    gender-affirming care and those who are idiots (like you).

    Gender Dysphoria Affirmative Working Group https://www.gdaworkinggroup.com/

    There are actually two types of males: normal people and delusional >>>>> female impersonators (like you).
    I'm actually a female born with a penis. My personality is much more >>>> important than DNA and what I have between legs.

    You're actually a male and will always be a male. Your DNA matches
    what you have between your legs. Your delusional 'personality' is
    irrelevant.


    Doesn't mean I can't live as a woman if I desire to.

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    You can transition to a horse for all I care. Just don't seek my approval because I think you're insane. Bless you.

    you can't ride two horses with one ass

    You could if you had a big enough ass.

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