• Bandits from Transgender Trend released anti-trans propaganda to school

    From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 3 10:43:00 2021
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    XPost: alt.politics

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of the
    booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they are talking
    about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf
    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Sun Oct 3 13:14:49 2021
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    XPost: alt.politics

    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of the
    booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they are talking >about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf

    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than the
    sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Woke up, sunshine: you can no more transition from one sex to another
    than you can from one race to another.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Oct 4 17:23:00 2021
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    XPost: alt.politics

    On 10/3/21 12:14 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of the
    booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they are talking
    about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf

    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than the
    sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Have you followed the link and read the document? It is bullshit.

    Woke up, sunshine: you can no more transition from one sex to another
    than you can from one race to another.
    Sorry, you mistake gender with sex.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/



    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Mon Oct 4 21:38:27 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:23:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/3/21 12:14 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of the
    booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they are talking
    about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf

    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than the
    sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Have you followed the link and read the document? It is bullshit.

    What exactly about it is 'bullshit'? It panders to 'transbenders' to
    some extent (that would count as bullshit) but doesn't go as far as
    most of your 'woke' compatriots and sets some boundaries.

    Woke up, sunshine: you can no more transition from one sex to another
    than you can from one race to another.
    Sorry, you mistake gender with sex.

    Sorry, gender is exclusively a grammatical term applied to nouns and
    pronouns. People only have sexes.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Oct 5 22:20:00 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 10/4/21 8:38 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:23:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/3/21 12:14 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of the
    booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they are talking >>>> about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf

    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than the
    sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Have you followed the link and read the document? It is bullshit.

    What exactly about it is 'bullshit'? It panders to 'transbenders' to
    some extent (that would count as bullshit) but doesn't go as far as
    most of your 'woke' compatriots and sets some boundaries.
    The "trans-identified" term alone is a slur against trans people.

    "Since children have been taught about ‘gender identity,’ calls to Childline from children worried about their gender have doubled to eight
    calls a day from children as young as 11."

    Naturally, if you teach about gender identity then more children can
    relate to experiences with their gender identity and call to Childline.

    "In a study of young women who regret their transition, 93% said they
    did not receive adequate counselling before starting a path of medical transition so underlying problems were not resolved"

    Then you should have found a better gender therapist or better yet,
    multiple gender therapist that know their shit.

    "‘Rapid onset gender dysphoria’ is thought to be linked to internet use
    and social contagion"

    I read *exactly* that study and it's bullshit. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0214157

    "Nearly 70% of referrals to the Tavistock gender clinic last year were
    girls and over 70% of adolescent referrals were girls"

    And what's wrong with that? Why have you put this fact in your bullshit handbook on child abuse?

    "There has been a nearly 1,000% increase in children referred to the
    Tavistock child and adolescent gender clinic over the past six years."

    That's simply because there is more awareness about being transgender
    and increasing evidence on effectiveness of gender-affirming care, you righttard.

    "Most children who start puberty blockers progress to cross-sex hormones
    at age 16, leaving them infertile; very few come off the path of
    increasingly invasive medical treatments once they start."

    "There is no research into the long‑term effects of these treatments on children"

    Bullshit point. Not every long-term effect can be researched ethically.

    "Patients at gender clinics are 6x more likely to be on the autistic
    spectrum than the general population"

    Correlation does not equal causation, you moron.

    "Extreme gender non-conformity in childhood and adolescence is more
    predictive of gay or lesbian sexual orientation"

    "Childhood gender dysphoria naturally resolves during adolescence in
    around 80% of cases"

    Based on outdated studies that was created in dark ages of transgender
    care. Even if it's true, adolescents with gender dysphoria should be
    helped upon.

    "Around 50% of children referred to the Tavistock clinic have underlying
    mental health issues"

    Again, correlation does not equal causation. It's highly probable that
    it's gender dysphoria that underlies their mental health. Thanks for contributing to that number with the "how to make trans children kill themselves" handbook.


    Woke up, sunshine: you can no more transition from one sex to another
    than you can from one race to another.
    Sorry, you mistake gender with sex.

    Sorry, gender is exclusively a grammatical term applied to nouns and pronouns. People only have sexes.
    Then what is gender identity? I'm not pulling that out of my ass, while
    there is no direct proof of it (proofs exist only within realm of
    mathematics), there is indirect evidence that gender identity, might be,
    in fact, real. There is evidence that gender identity has biological
    roots, cannot be changed by so-called conversion therapy and that
    transition improves quality of life and lessens dysphoria in transgender individuals.

    Of course, not all trans people are dysphoric, but that doesn't mean
    being trans is a choice for some people.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/



    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Wed Oct 6 13:13:53 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 22:20:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/4/21 8:38 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:23:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/3/21 12:14 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of the
    booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they are talking >>>>> about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf

    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than the
    sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Have you followed the link and read the document? It is bullshit.

    What exactly about it is 'bullshit'? It panders to 'transbenders' to
    some extent (that would count as bullshit) but doesn't go as far as
    most of your 'woke' compatriots and sets some boundaries.
    The "trans-identified" term alone is a slur against trans people.

    Really? How about all these other 'woke' terms: agender, neutral
    gender, null-gender, genderless, neutrois, androgyne, bigender, butch, cisgender, gender expansive, gender fluid, gender outlaw(!), gender
    queer, masculine of centre, non-binary, omnigender, polygender,
    pangender, transgender, trans, transsexual, and two spirit?

    Which are slurs and which are not?

    "Since children have been taught about gender identity, calls to
    Childline from children worried about their gender have doubled to eight >calls a day from children as young as 11."

    Naturally, if you teach about gender identity then more children can
    relate to experiences with their gender identity and call to Childline.

    This is merely confusing children at a vulnerable age. Add that to
    the Facebook/Instagram pressure and you end up with delusional
    kiddies.

    "In a study of young women who regret their transition, 93% said they
    did not receive adequate counselling before starting a path of medical >transition so underlying problems were not resolved"

    Then you should have found a better gender therapist or better yet,
    multiple gender therapist that know their shit.

    In other words, some other 'woke' quack/charlatan (probably jewish)
    who actually believes in 'gender appropriation'.

    "Rapid onset gender dysphoria is thought to be linked to internet use
    and social contagion"

    I read *exactly* that study and it's bullshit. >https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0214157

    It is anything but bullshit. Zuckersteen and Co. are responsible for
    a LOT of it.

    "Nearly 70% of referrals to the Tavistock gender clinic last year were
    girls and over 70% of adolescent referrals were girls"

    And what's wrong with that? Why have you put this fact in your bullshit >handbook on child abuse?

    Is there any implication in the statement that it's 'wrong'? It's
    merely adding a fact.

    "There has been a nearly 1,000% increase in children referred to the >Tavistock child and adolescent gender clinic over the past six years."

    That's simply because there is more awareness about being transgender
    and increasing evidence on effectiveness of gender-affirming care, you >righttard.

    No, that's simply because more and more children are being
    indoctrinated with this 'woke' horseshit, you lefttard.

    "Most children who start puberty blockers progress to cross-sex hormones
    at age 16, leaving them infertile; very few come off the path of
    increasingly invasive medical treatments once they start."

    "There is no research into the long?term effects of these treatments on >children"

    Bullshit point. Not every long-term effect can be researched ethically.

    Long term effects NEED to be researched: how does ethics even come
    into it?

    "Patients at gender clinics are 6x more likely to be on the autistic
    spectrum than the general population"

    Correlation does not equal causation, you moron.

    It doesn't need to, you cretin. It merely shows that these people are
    not quite right in the head to begin with.

    "Extreme gender non-conformity in childhood and adolescence is more >predictive of gay or lesbian sexual orientation"

    "Childhood gender dysphoria naturally resolves during adolescence in
    around 80% of cases"

    Based on outdated studies that was created in dark ages of transgender
    care. Even if it's true, adolescents with gender dysphoria should be
    helped upon.

    Helped upon to dispel their delusions with facts and reality checks.

    "Around 50% of children referred to the Tavistock clinic have underlying >mental health issues"

    Again, correlation does not equal causation. It's highly probable that
    it's gender dysphoria that underlies their mental health. Thanks for >contributing to that number with the "how to make trans children kill >themselves" handbook.

    Mentally ill and delusional people had higher suicide rates before
    'gender appropriation' ever came along.

    Woke up, sunshine: you can no more transition from one sex to another >>>> than you can from one race to another.
    Sorry, you mistake gender with sex.

    Sorry, gender is exclusively a grammatical term applied to nouns and
    pronouns. People only have sexes.
    Then what is gender identity?

    There's no such thing. People have sexes, nouns and pronouns have
    genders.

    I'm not pulling that out of my ass

    Someone else did before you.

    while
    there is no direct proof of it (proofs exist only within realm of >mathematics),

    Proofs exist beyond the realm of mathematics.

    there is indirect evidence that gender identity, might be,
    in fact, real.

    Only in so much as any other delusions are 'real'.

    There is evidence that gender identity has biological
    roots, cannot be changed by so-called conversion therapy and that
    transition improves quality of life and lessens dysphoria in transgender >individuals.

    No so-called 'conversion therapy' is required because conversion is
    impossible without a complete DNA transplant.

    Of course, not all trans people are dysphoric, but that doesn't mean
    being trans is a choice for some people.

    Being delusional is not a choice either.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to KWills on Fri Oct 8 18:58:00 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 10/6/21 12:13 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 22:20:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/4/21 8:38 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:23:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/3/21 12:14 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of the >>>>>> booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they are talking >>>>>> about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf

    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than the
    sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Have you followed the link and read the document? It is bullshit.

    What exactly about it is 'bullshit'? It panders to 'transbenders' to
    some extent (that would count as bullshit) but doesn't go as far as
    most of your 'woke' compatriots and sets some boundaries.
    The "trans-identified" term alone is a slur against trans people.

    Really? How about all these other 'woke' terms: agender, neutral
    gender, null-gender, genderless, neutrois, androgyne, bigender, butch, cisgender, gender expansive, gender fluid, gender outlaw(!), gender
    queer, masculine of centre, non-binary, omnigender, polygender,
    pangender, transgender, trans, transsexual, and two spirit?

    Which are slurs and which are not?

    "Since children have been taught about ‘gender identity,’ calls to
    Childline from children worried about their gender have doubled to eight
    calls a day from children as young as 11."

    Naturally, if you teach about gender identity then more children can
    relate to experiences with their gender identity and call to Childline.

    This is merely confusing children at a vulnerable age. Add that to
    the Facebook/Instagram pressure and you end up with delusional
    kiddies.


    There is no evidence that children can get confused bout their gender
    identity. If anything, they are brainwashed into being cis.

    "In a study of young women who regret their transition, 93% said they
    did not receive adequate counselling before starting a path of medical
    transition so underlying problems were not resolved"

    Then you should have found a better gender therapist or better yet,
    multiple gender therapist that know their shit.

    In other words, some other 'woke' quack/charlatan (probably jewish)
    who actually believes in 'gender appropriation'.
    Normal therapists also affirm your gender identity.

    "‘Rapid onset gender dysphoria’ is thought to be linked to internet use >> and social contagion"

    I read *exactly* that study and it's bullshit.
    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0214157

    It is anything but bullshit. Zuckersteen and Co. are responsible for
    a LOT of it.

    Kenny Zuck is a conversion therapy bullshitter.

    "Nearly 70% of referrals to the Tavistock gender clinic last year were
    girls and over 70% of adolescent referrals were girls"

    And what's wrong with that? Why have you put this fact in your bullshit
    handbook on child abuse?

    Is there any implication in the statement that it's 'wrong'? It's
    merely adding a fact.

    Yes, but it's weaponized against trans people. You can give a clip to a
    TERF and they will turn it into a deadly weapon.

    "There has been a nearly 1,000% increase in children referred to the
    Tavistock child and adolescent gender clinic over the past six years."

    That's simply because there is more awareness about being transgender
    and increasing evidence on effectiveness of gender-affirming care, you
    righttard.

    No, that's simply because more and more children are being
    indoctrinated with this 'woke' horseshit, you lefttard.

    "Most children who start puberty blockers progress to cross-sex hormones
    at age 16, leaving them infertile; very few come off the path of
    increasingly invasive medical treatments once they start."

    "There is no research into the long?term effects of these treatments on
    children"

    Bullshit point. Not every long-term effect can be researched ethically.

    Long term effects NEED to be researched: how does ethics even come
    into it?


    Transphobes cry over puberty blockers yet we don't know long-term
    effects of COVID-19 vaccines.

    "Patients at gender clinics are 6x more likeuly to be on the autistic
    spectrum than the general population"

    Correlation does not equal causation, you moron.

    It doesn't need to, you cretin. It merely shows that these people are
    not quite right in the head to begin with.

    "Extreme gender non-conformity in childhood and adolescence is more
    predictive of gay or lesbian sexual orientation"

    "Childhood gender dysphoria naturally resolves during adolescence in
    around 80% of cases"

    Based on outdated studies that was created in dark ages of transgender
    care. Even if it's true, adolescents with gender dysphoria should be
    helped upon.

    Helped upon to dispel their delusions with facts and reality checks.

    Unless they are de-desisters (hi Zinnia Jones):

    https://genderanalysis.net/2017/10/when-desisters-arent-de-desistance-in-childhood-and-adolescent-gender-dysphoria/

    "Around 50% of children referred to the Tavistock clinic have underlying
    mental health issues"

    Again, correlation does not equal causation. It's highly probable that
    it's gender dysphoria that underlies their mental health. Thanks for
    contributing to that number with the "how to make trans children kill
    themselves" handbook.

    Mentally ill and delusional people had higher suicide rates before
    'gender appropriation' ever came along.

    Trans people are mentally ill because of assholes like you and
    discomfort over their sex characteristics.

    Woke up, sunshine: you can no more transition from one sex to another >>>>> than you can from one race to another.
    Sorry, you mistake gender with sex.

    Sorry, gender is exclusively a grammatical term applied to nouns and
    pronouns. People only have sexes.
    Then what is gender identity?

    There's no such thing. People have sexes, nouns and pronouns have
    genders.


    What about gender identity?

    I'm not pulling that out of my ass

    Someone else did before you.

    while
    there is no direct proof of it (proofs exist only within realm of
    mathematics),

    Proofs exist beyond the realm of mathematics.

    There is evidence that conversion therapy doesn't work, but there's no
    proof of that.

    there is indirect evidence that gender identity, might be,
    in fact, real.

    Only in so much as any other delusions are 'real'.
    You are ignorant of science of transgender identity.

    There is evidence that gender identity has biological
    roots, cannot be changed by so-called conversion therapy and that
    transition improves quality of life and lessens dysphoria in transgender
    individuals.

    No so-called 'conversion therapy' is required because conversion is impossible without a complete DNA transplant.

    Thanks for admitting you cannot change someone's gender identity.

    Of course, not all trans people are dysphoric, but that doesn't mean
    being trans is a choice for some people.

    Being delusional is not a choice either.

    More nonsense that fits your idiocy: http://parentsofrogdkids.com/

    The author of this website needs to get this bag under their chin: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.explicit.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.AZVWljQpEpjDvxnxHChy-wHaL4%26pid%3DApi&f=1

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/



    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Fri Oct 8 23:57:11 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 18:58:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/6/21 12:13 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 22:20:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/4/21 8:38 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:23:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/3/21 12:14 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of the >>>>>>> booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they are talking >>>>>>> about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf

    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than the >>>>>> sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Have you followed the link and read the document? It is bullshit.

    What exactly about it is 'bullshit'? It panders to 'transbenders' to
    some extent (that would count as bullshit) but doesn't go as far as
    most of your 'woke' compatriots and sets some boundaries.
    The "trans-identified" term alone is a slur against trans people.

    Really? How about all these other 'woke' terms: agender, neutral
    gender, null-gender, genderless, neutrois, androgyne, bigender, butch,
    cisgender, gender expansive, gender fluid, gender outlaw(!), gender
    queer, masculine of centre, non-binary, omnigender, polygender,
    pangender, transgender, trans, transsexual, and two spirit?

    Which are slurs and which are not?

    No comment, then?

    "Since children have been taught about gender identity, calls to
    Childline from children worried about their gender have doubled to eight >>> calls a day from children as young as 11."

    Naturally, if you teach about gender identity then more children can
    relate to experiences with their gender identity and call to Childline.

    This is merely confusing children at a vulnerable age. Add that to
    the Facebook/Instagram pressure and you end up with delusional
    kiddies.


    There is no evidence that children can get confused bout their gender >identity. If anything, they are brainwashed into being cis.

    There is no evidence that children, if left alone, would suffer from
    attempted 'gender appropriation'. If anything, they are brainwashed
    into thinking they're 'transbenders' by the 'woke' media and the
    social media platforms.

    "In a study of young women who regret their transition, 93% said they
    did not receive adequate counselling before starting a path of medical
    transition so underlying problems were not resolved"

    Then you should have found a better gender therapist or better yet,
    multiple gender therapist that know their shit.

    In other words, some other 'woke' quack/charlatan (probably jewish)
    who actually believes in 'gender appropriation'.
    Normal therapists also affirm your gender identity.

    Only those delusional enough to believe it exists.

    "Rapid onset gender dysphoria is thought to be linked to internet use
    and social contagion"

    I read *exactly* that study and it's bullshit.
    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0214157 >>
    It is anything but bullshit. Zuckersteen and Co. are responsible for
    a LOT of it.

    Kenny Zuck is a conversion therapy bullshitter.

    No conversion therapy is ever needed, because no conversion of sex can
    take place.

    "Nearly 70% of referrals to the Tavistock gender clinic last year were
    girls and over 70% of adolescent referrals were girls"

    And what's wrong with that? Why have you put this fact in your bullshit
    handbook on child abuse?

    Is there any implication in the statement that it's 'wrong'? It's
    merely adding a fact.

    Yes, but it's weaponized against trans people. You can give a clip to a
    TERF and they will turn it into a deadly weapon.

    It's a fact, pure and simple. No intention to 'weaponise' is implied
    or inferred.

    "There has been a nearly 1,000% increase in children referred to the
    Tavistock child and adolescent gender clinic over the past six years."

    That's simply because there is more awareness about being transgender
    and increasing evidence on effectiveness of gender-affirming care, you
    righttard.

    No, that's simply because more and more children are being
    indoctrinated with this 'woke' horseshit, you lefttard.

    No comment here either?

    "Most children who start puberty blockers progress to cross-sex hormones >>> at age 16, leaving them infertile; very few come off the path of
    increasingly invasive medical treatments once they start."

    "There is no research into the long?term effects of these treatments on
    children"

    Bullshit point. Not every long-term effect can be researched ethically.

    Long term effects NEED to be researched: how does ethics even come
    into it?


    Transphobes cry over puberty blockers yet we don't know long-term
    effects of COVID-19 vaccines.

    Puberty blockers are pointless...they still won't smooth the
    'transition' from one sex to the other.

    "Patients at gender clinics are 6x more likeuly to be on the autistic
    spectrum than the general population"

    Correlation does not equal causation, you moron.

    It doesn't need to, you cretin. It merely shows that these people are
    not quite right in the head to begin with.

    "Extreme gender non-conformity in childhood and adolescence is more
    predictive of gay or lesbian sexual orientation"

    "Childhood gender dysphoria naturally resolves during adolescence in
    around 80% of cases"

    Based on outdated studies that was created in dark ages of transgender
    care. Even if it's true, adolescents with gender dysphoria should be
    helped upon.

    Helped upon to dispel their delusions with facts and reality checks.

    Unless they are de-desisters (hi Zinnia Jones):

    https://genderanalysis.net/2017/10/when-desisters-arent-de-desistance-in-childhood-and-adolescent-gender-dysphoria/

    Yet more 'woke' horseshit.

    "Around 50% of children referred to the Tavistock clinic have underlying >>> mental health issues"

    Again, correlation does not equal causation. It's highly probable that
    it's gender dysphoria that underlies their mental health. Thanks for
    contributing to that number with the "how to make trans children kill
    themselves" handbook.

    Mentally ill and delusional people had higher suicide rates before
    'gender appropriation' ever came along.

    Trans people are mentally ill because of assholes like you and
    discomfort over their sex characteristics.

    It's 'transbender' assholes like you who attempt 'gender
    appropriation' as a *result* of mental illness and then commit suicide
    when you fail and realise you're still male or female as the case may
    be.

    Woke up, sunshine: you can no more transition from one sex to another >>>>>> than you can from one race to another.
    Sorry, you mistake gender with sex.

    Sorry, gender is exclusively a grammatical term applied to nouns and
    pronouns. People only have sexes.
    Then what is gender identity?

    There's no such thing. People have sexes, nouns and pronouns have
    genders.


    What about gender identity?

    No such thing exists separate from sexual identity. It's a
    'transbender' myth.

    I'm not pulling that out of my ass

    Someone else did before you.

    while
    there is no direct proof of it (proofs exist only within realm of
    mathematics),

    Proofs exist beyond the realm of mathematics.

    There is evidence that conversion therapy doesn't work, but there's no
    proof of that.

    There is evidence that conversion from one sex to another doesn't
    work, so who needs conversion therapy?

    there is indirect evidence that gender identity, might be,
    in fact, real.

    Only in so much as any other delusions are 'real'.
    You are ignorant of science of transgender identity.

    There is no such 'science'...it's all horseshit.

    There is evidence that gender identity has biological
    roots, cannot be changed by so-called conversion therapy and that
    transition improves quality of life and lessens dysphoria in transgender >>> individuals.

    No so-called 'conversion therapy' is required because conversion is
    impossible without a complete DNA transplant.

    Thanks for admitting you cannot change someone's gender identity.

    Thanks for admitting that your immutable DNA prevents you from
    accomplishing 'gender appropriation'.

    Of course, not all trans people are dysphoric, but that doesn't mean
    being trans is a choice for some people.

    Being delusional is not a choice either.

    More nonsense that fits your idiocy: http://parentsofrogdkids.com/

    The social media platforms are doing a great job spreading delusions
    among the young and vulnerable. It never used to happen before to
    anything like this extent.

    The author of this website needs to get this bag under their chin: >https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.explicit.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.AZVWljQpEpjDvxnxHChy-wHaL4%26pid%3DApi&f=1

    More correctly, 'transbenders' like you need to. A BIG bag.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Oct 18 17:54:00 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 10/8/21 10:57 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 18:58:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/6/21 12:13 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 22:20:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/4/21 8:38 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:23:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/3/21 12:14 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of the >>>>>>>> booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they are talking
    about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf

    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than the >>>>>>> sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Have you followed the link and read the document? It is bullshit.

    What exactly about it is 'bullshit'? It panders to 'transbenders' to >>>>> some extent (that would count as bullshit) but doesn't go as far as
    most of your 'woke' compatriots and sets some boundaries.
    The "trans-identified" term alone is a slur against trans people.

    Really? How about all these other 'woke' terms: agender, neutral
    gender, null-gender, genderless, neutrois, androgyne, bigender, butch,
    cisgender, gender expansive, gender fluid, gender outlaw(!), gender
    queer, masculine of centre, non-binary, omnigender, polygender,
    pangender, transgender, trans, transsexual, and two spirit?

    Which are slurs and which are not?

    No comment, then?

    "Since children have been taught about ‘gender identity,’ calls to >>>> Childline from children worried about their gender have doubled to eight >>>> calls a day from children as young as 11."

    Naturally, if you teach about gender identity then more children can
    relate to experiences with their gender identity and call to Childline. >>>
    This is merely confusing children at a vulnerable age. Add that to
    the Facebook/Instagram pressure and you end up with delusional
    kiddies.


    There is no evidence that children can get confused bout their gender
    identity. If anything, they are brainwashed into being cis.

    There is no evidence that children, if left alone, would suffer from attempted 'gender appropriation'. If anything, they are brainwashed
    into thinking they're 'transbenders' by the 'woke' media and the
    social media platforms.

    Bullshit. There are a lot of young trans children who insist they are
    different gender without any exposure to transgender idea. If any
    brainwashing occurs, it's society-wide brainwashing into fitting
    cisnormative norms. I was a trans woman since my *birth* and the reason
    why I only realized it now is exactly because of cisnormative propaganda machine.

    Even if the person had make a mistake by transitioning, the person would
    almost certainly experience gender dysphoria and stop before any
    irreversible damage is done. That's exactly why detransitioning after a
    long time of living as your authentic gender is extremely rare (unless
    you are brainwashed by http://reddit.com/r/detrans, that's it).
    "In a study of young women who regret their transition, 93% said they
    did not receive adequate counselling before starting a path of medical >>>> transition so underlying problems were not resolved"

    Then you should have found a better gender therapist or better yet,
    multiple gender therapist that know their shit.

    In other words, some other 'woke' quack/charlatan (probably jewish)
    who actually believes in 'gender appropriation'.
    Normal therapists also affirm your gender identity.

    Only those delusional enough to believe it exists.

    Are you really that lazy to not search the Web for it?

    This is a link from ScienceDirect, ran by a *scientific* publishing
    company Elsevier:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/gender-identity >>>> "‘Rapid onset gender dysphoria’ is thought to be linked to internet use
    and social contagion"

    I read *exactly* that study and it's bullshit.
    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0214157

    It is anything but bullshit. Zuckersteen and Co. are responsible for
    a LOT of it.

    Kenny Zuck is a conversion therapy bullshitter.

    No conversion therapy is ever needed, because no conversion of sex can
    take place.

    By conversion therapy, I mean 'changing one's sexual orientation or
    gender identity'. Should my child come out to you as transgender and/or non-binary, I will seek gender-affirming care, not the bullshit
    conversion therapy disguised as "exploration therapy". You will,
    however, obviously search for a therapist that is stupid enough to buy
    into "accepting your biological sex" bullshit, ignoring that gender
    identity is largely influenced by biological factors: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6677266/
    I'm myself meeting with a gender therapist (that who works at UCSF Gender-Affirming Health Program) last time so I can discover my gender
    identity and deal with transphobia.

    This post on known hate forum r/detrans is a good pseudoscientific
    crankery on how to abuse your child and make them self-harm and commit
    suicide:
    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/cakpjq/whats_a_parent_to_do/

    DO *NOT* BELIEVE OR FOLLOW ADVICE HERE OR ON THE LINK ABOVE.


    "Realize there is a good chance it will pass, esp if you focus on
    handling the right way. It's not hopeless."

    If you scare away the trans girl in subject then it will "pass for
    everyone else" but not for her.


    "Totally accept all gender non-conformity. But do NOT accept the
    pronouns or the new identity."

    Don't scream at me if your child commits suicide due to refusing of
    usage of your child's true name. Also, what do you define as "new identity"?


    "The facts do not support transition for the vast majority of dysphoric
    people, let alone youth. Transition only alleviates dysphoria for a
    while and then it comes back, with massive social, medical, and
    psychological consequences."

    Bullshit, the evidence shows the exact opposite.

    Less than 1% people who transitioned commit suicide: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7317390/

    Detransition and regret rate is below 1%: https://web.archive.org/web/20210912112235/https://www.gendergp.com/evidenced-research-on-detransition-regret-newsnight/

    Honestly, if it was true what the poster is saying, the suicide,
    detransition and regret rate would be a lot higher.

    "Nearly 70% of referrals to the Tavistock gender clinic last year were >>>> girls and over 70% of adolescent referrals were girls"

    And what's wrong with that? Why have you put this fact in your bullshit >>>> handbook on child abuse?

    Is there any implication in the statement that it's 'wrong'? It's
    merely adding a fact.

    Yes, but it's weaponized against trans people. You can give a clip to a
    TERF and they will turn it into a deadly weapon.

    It's a fact, pure and simple. No intention to 'weaponise' is implied
    or inferred.

    It is bullshit, pure and simple.

    "There has been a nearly 1,000% increase in children referred to the
    Tavistock child and adolescent gender clinic over the past six years." >>>>
    That's simply because there is more awareness about being transgender
    and increasing evidence on effectiveness of gender-affirming care, you >>>> righttard.

    No, that's simply because more and more children are being
    indoctrinated with this 'woke' horseshit, you lefttard.

    No comment here either?

    Maybe it is because children are more likely to come out these days.

    "Most children who start puberty blockers progress to cross-sex hormones >>>> at age 16, leaving them infertile; very few come off the path of
    increasingly invasive medical treatments once they start."

    "There is no research into the long?term effects of these treatments on >>>> children"

    Bullshit point. Not every long-term effect can be researched ethically. >>>
    Long term effects NEED to be researched: how does ethics even come
    into it?


    Transphobes cry over puberty blockers yet we don't know long-term
    effects of COVID-19 vaccines.

    Puberty blockers are pointless...they still won't smooth the
    'transition' from one sex to the other.

    They can lessen gender dysphoria. Getting puberty blockers is already challenging enough, we could give them hormones straight but it's
    unethical to insert them in people who don't know what they're doing.
    IMHO, they should be at least 16 and mature enough to understand
    *everything* that comes with this treatment.

    This is a good read on puberty blockers: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075

    Now someone will say that almost 100% will go on cross-sex hormones, but
    that's just due to *very* conservative process of determining children
    who *need* puberty blocking. They aren't given to anyone who says "I
    want them" due to obvious reasons.

    "Patients at gender clinics are 6x more likeuly to be on the autistic
    spectrum than the general population"

    Correlation does not equal causation, you moron.

    It doesn't need to, you cretin. It merely shows that these people are
    not quite right in the head to begin with.

    "Extreme gender non-conformity in childhood and adolescence is more
    predictive of gay or lesbian sexual orientation"

    "Childhood gender dysphoria naturally resolves during adolescence in
    around 80% of cases"

    Based on outdated studies that was created in dark ages of transgender >>>> care. Even if it's true, adolescents with gender dysphoria should be
    helped upon.

    Helped upon to dispel their delusions with facts and reality checks.

    Unless they are de-desisters (hi Zinnia Jones):

    https://genderanalysis.net/2017/10/when-desisters-arent-de-desistance-in-childhood-and-adolescent-gender-dysphoria/

    Yet more 'woke' horseshit.

    You choose to be ignorant and to close yourself in right-wing echo chambers. >>>> "Around 50% of children referred to the Tavistock clinic have underlying >>>> mental health issues"

    Again, correlation does not equal causation. It's highly probable that >>>> it's gender dysphoria that underlies their mental health. Thanks for
    contributing to that number with the "how to make trans children kill
    themselves" handbook.

    Mentally ill and delusional people had higher suicide rates before
    'gender appropriation' ever came along.

    Trans people are mentally ill because of assholes like you and
    discomfort over their sex characteristics.

    It's 'transbender' assholes like you who attempt 'gender
    appropriation' as a *result* of mental illness and then commit suicide
    when you fail and realise you're still male or female as the case may
    be.

    Bullshit, I was in a conversion therapy camp back in 70s and attempted
    suicide. Luckily I was rescued.
    Woke up, sunshine: you can no more transition from one sex to another >>>>>>> than you can from one race to another.
    Sorry, you mistake gender with sex.

    Sorry, gender is exclusively a grammatical term applied to nouns and >>>>> pronouns. People only have sexes.
    Then what is gender identity?

    There's no such thing. People have sexes, nouns and pronouns have
    genders.


    What about gender identity?

    No such thing exists separate from sexual identity. It's a
    'transbender' myth.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/
    I'm not pulling that out of my ass

    Someone else did before you.

    while
    there is no direct proof of it (proofs exist only within realm of
    mathematics),

    Proofs exist beyond the realm of mathematics.

    There is evidence that conversion therapy doesn't work, but there's no
    proof of that.

    There is evidence that conversion from one sex to another doesn't
    work, so who needs conversion therapy?

    there is indirect evidence that gender identity, might be,
    in fact, real.

    Only in so much as any other delusions are 'real'.
    You are ignorant of science of transgender identity.

    There is no such 'science'...it's all horseshit.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/
    There is evidence that gender identity has biological
    roots, cannot be changed by so-called conversion therapy and that
    transition improves quality of life and lessens dysphoria in transgender >>>> individuals.

    No so-called 'conversion therapy' is required because conversion is
    impossible without a complete DNA transplant.

    Thanks for admitting you cannot change someone's gender identity.

    Thanks for admitting that your immutable DNA prevents you from
    accomplishing 'gender appropriation'.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/
    Of course, not all trans people are dysphoric, but that doesn't mean
    being trans is a choice for some people.

    Being delusional is not a choice either.

    More nonsense that fits your idiocy: http://parentsofrogdkids.com/

    The social media platforms are doing a great job spreading delusions
    among the young and vulnerable. It never used to happen before to
    anything like this extent.

    Correlation does not equal causation, you dimwit. Maybe it's the 2007
    financial crisis that caused the increase in gender clinic referrals?

    The author of this website needs to get this bag under their chin:
    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.explicit.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.AZVWljQpEpjDvxnxHChy-wHaL4%26pid%3DApi&f=1

    More correctly, 'transbenders' like you need to. A BIG bag.

    You are good at producing bullshit. Most of Usenet is bullshit.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    A signature of a conspiracy theory worshipper. Sure, I probably believe
    in conspiracy theories, but that's only if I *don't* know it is just a conspiracy theory.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 19 08:30:59 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 19/10/2021 4:54 am, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 10/8/21 10:57 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 18:58:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/6/21 12:13 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 22:20:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/4/21 8:38 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:23:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/3/21 12:14 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of the >>>>>>>>> booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they are >>>>>>>>> talking
    about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf


    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than the >>>>>>>> sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Have you followed the link and read the document? It is bullshit. >>>>>>
    What exactly about it is 'bullshit'?  It panders to 'transbenders' to >>>>>> some extent (that would count as bullshit) but doesn't go as far as >>>>>> most of your 'woke' compatriots and sets some boundaries.
    The "trans-identified" term alone is a slur against trans people.

    Really?  How about all these other 'woke' terms: agender, neutral
    gender, null-gender, genderless, neutrois, androgyne, bigender, butch, >>>> cisgender, gender expansive, gender fluid, gender outlaw(!), gender
    queer, masculine of centre, non-binary, omnigender, polygender,
    pangender, transgender, trans, transsexual, and two spirit?

    Which are slurs and which are not?

    No comment, then?

    "Since children have been taught about ‘gender identity,’ calls to >>>>> Childline from children worried about their gender have doubled to
    eight
    calls a day from children as young as 11."

    Naturally, if you teach about gender identity then more children can >>>>> relate to experiences with their gender identity and call to
    Childline.

    This is merely confusing children at a vulnerable age.  Add that to
    the Facebook/Instagram pressure and you end up with delusional
    kiddies.


    There is no evidence that children can get confused bout their gender
    identity. If anything, they are brainwashed into being cis.

    There is no evidence that children, if left alone, would suffer from
    attempted 'gender appropriation'.  If anything, they are brainwashed
    into thinking they're 'transbenders' by the 'woke' media and the
    social media platforms.

    Bullshit. There are a lot of young trans children who insist they are different gender without any exposure to transgender idea. If any brainwashing occurs, it's society-wide brainwashing into fitting
    cisnormative norms. I was a trans woman since my *birth* and the reason
    why I only realized it now is exactly because of cisnormative propaganda machine.

    Even if the person had make a mistake by transitioning, the person would almost certainly experience gender dysphoria and stop before any
    irreversible damage is done. That's exactly why detransitioning after a
    long time of living as your authentic gender is extremely rare (unless
    you are brainwashed by http://reddit.com/r/detrans, that's it).
    "In a study of young women who regret their transition, 93% said they >>>>> did not receive adequate counselling before starting a path of medical >>>>> transition so underlying problems were not resolved"

    Then you should have found a better gender therapist or better yet,
    multiple gender therapist that know their shit.

    In other words, some other 'woke' quack/charlatan (probably jewish)
    who actually believes in 'gender appropriation'.
    Normal therapists also affirm your gender identity.

    Only those delusional enough to believe it exists.

    Are you really that lazy to not search the Web for it?

    This is a link from ScienceDirect, ran by a *scientific* publishing
    company Elsevier:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/gender-identity
    "‘Rapid onset gender dysphoria’ is thought to be linked to internet >>>>> use
    and social contagion"

    I read *exactly* that study and it's bullshit.
    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0214157


    It is anything but bullshit.  Zuckersteen and Co. are responsible for >>>> a LOT of it.

    Kenny Zuck is a conversion therapy bullshitter.

    No conversion therapy is ever needed, because no conversion of sex can
    take place.

    By conversion therapy, I mean 'changing one's sexual orientation or
    gender identity'. Should my child come out to you as transgender and/or non-binary, I will seek gender-affirming care, not the bullshit
    conversion therapy disguised as "exploration therapy". You will,
    however, obviously search for a therapist that is stupid enough to buy
    into "accepting your biological sex" bullshit, ignoring that gender
    identity is largely influenced by biological factors: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6677266/
    I'm myself meeting with a gender therapist (that who works at UCSF Gender-Affirming Health Program) last time so I can discover my gender identity and deal with transphobia.

    This post on known hate forum r/detrans is a good pseudoscientific
    crankery on how to abuse your child and make them self-harm and commit suicide: https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/cakpjq/whats_a_parent_to_do/

    DO *NOT* BELIEVE OR FOLLOW ADVICE HERE OR ON THE LINK ABOVE.


    "Realize there is a good chance it will pass, esp if you focus on
    handling the right way. It's not hopeless."

    If you scare away the trans girl in subject then it will "pass for
    everyone else" but not for her.


    "Totally accept all gender non-conformity. But do NOT accept the
    pronouns or the new identity."

    Don't scream at me if your child commits suicide due to refusing of
    usage of your child's true name. Also, what do you define as "new
    identity"?


    "The facts do not support transition for the vast majority of dysphoric people, let alone youth. Transition only alleviates dysphoria for a
    while and then it comes back, with massive social, medical, and
    psychological consequences."

    Bullshit, the evidence shows the exact opposite.

    Less than 1% people who transitioned commit suicide: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7317390/

    Detransition and regret rate is below 1%: https://web.archive.org/web/20210912112235/https://www.gendergp.com/evidenced-research-on-detransition-regret-newsnight/


    Honestly, if it was true what the poster is saying, the suicide,
    detransition and regret rate would be a lot higher.

    "Nearly 70% of referrals to the Tavistock gender clinic last year were >>>>> girls and over 70% of adolescent referrals  were girls"

    And what's wrong with that? Why have you put this fact in your
    bullshit
    handbook on child abuse?

    Is there any implication in the statement that it's 'wrong'?  It's
    merely adding a fact.

    Yes, but it's weaponized against trans people. You can give a clip to a
    TERF and they will turn it into a deadly weapon.

    It's a fact, pure and simple.  No intention to 'weaponise' is implied
    or inferred.

    It is bullshit, pure and simple.

    "There has been a nearly 1,000% increase in children referred to the >>>>> Tavistock child and adolescent gender clinic over the past six years." >>>>>
    That's simply because there is more awareness about being transgender >>>>> and increasing evidence on effectiveness of gender-affirming care, you >>>>> righttard.

    No, that's simply because more and more children are being
    indoctrinated with this 'woke' horseshit, you lefttard.

    No comment here either?

    Maybe it is because children are more likely to come out these days.

    "Most children who start puberty blockers progress to cross-sex
    hormones
    at age 16, leaving them infertile; very few come off the path of
    increasingly invasive medical treatments once they start."

    "There is no research into the long?term effects of these
    treatments on
    children"

    Bullshit point. Not every long-term effect can be researched
    ethically.

    Long term effects NEED to be researched:  how does ethics even come
    into it?


    Transphobes cry over puberty blockers yet we don't know long-term
    effects of COVID-19 vaccines.

    Puberty blockers are pointless...they still won't smooth the
    'transition' from one sex to the other.

    They can lessen gender dysphoria. Getting puberty blockers is already challenging enough, we could give them hormones straight but it's
    unethical to insert them in people who don't know what they're doing.
    IMHO, they should be at least 16 and mature enough to understand
    *everything* that comes with this treatment.

    This is a good read on puberty blockers: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075


    Now someone will say that almost 100% will go on cross-sex hormones, but that's just due to *very* conservative process of determining children
    who *need* puberty blocking. They aren't given to anyone who says "I
    want them" due to obvious reasons.

    "Patients at gender clinics are 6x more likeuly to be on the autistic >>>>> spectrum than the general population"

    Correlation does not equal causation, you moron.

    It doesn't need to, you cretin.  It merely shows that these people are >>>> not quite right in the head to begin with.

    "Extreme gender non-conformity in childhood and adolescence is more
    predictive of gay or lesbian sexual orientation"

    "Childhood gender dysphoria naturally resolves during adolescence in >>>>> around 80% of cases"

    Based on outdated studies that was created in dark ages of transgender >>>>> care. Even if it's true, adolescents with gender dysphoria should be >>>>> helped upon.

    Helped upon to dispel their delusions with facts and reality checks.

    Unless they are de-desisters (hi Zinnia Jones):

    https://genderanalysis.net/2017/10/when-desisters-arent-de-desistance-in-childhood-and-adolescent-gender-dysphoria/


    Yet more 'woke' horseshit.

    You choose to be ignorant and to close yourself in right-wing echo
    chambers.
    "Around 50% of children referred to the Tavistock clinic have
    underlying
    mental health issues"

    Again, correlation does not equal causation. It's highly probable that >>>>> it's gender dysphoria that underlies their mental health. Thanks for >>>>> contributing to that number with the "how to make trans children kill >>>>> themselves" handbook.

    Mentally ill and delusional people had higher suicide rates before
    'gender appropriation' ever came along.

    Trans people are mentally ill because of assholes like you and
    discomfort over their sex characteristics.

    It's 'transbender' assholes like you who attempt 'gender
    appropriation' as a *result* of mental illness and then commit suicide
    when you fail and realise you're still male or female as the case may
    be.

    Bullshit, I was in a conversion therapy camp back in 70s and attempted suicide. Luckily I was rescued.
    Woke up, sunshine:  you can no more transition from one sex to >>>>>>>> another
    than you can from one race to another.
    Sorry, you mistake gender with sex.

    Sorry, gender is exclusively a grammatical term applied to nouns and >>>>>> pronouns.  People only have sexes.
    Then what is gender identity?

    There's no such thing.  People have sexes, nouns and pronouns have
    genders.


    What about gender identity?

    No such thing exists separate from sexual identity.  It's a
    'transbender' myth.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/
    I'm not pulling that out of my ass

    Someone else did before you.

    while
    there is no direct proof of it (proofs exist only within realm of
    mathematics),

    Proofs exist beyond the realm of mathematics.

    There is evidence that conversion therapy doesn't work, but there's no
    proof of that.

    There is evidence that conversion from one sex to another doesn't
    work, so who needs conversion therapy?

    there is indirect evidence that gender identity, might be,
    in fact, real.

    Only in so much as any other delusions are 'real'.
    You are ignorant of science of transgender identity.

    There is no such 'science'...it's all horseshit.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/
    There is evidence that gender identity has biological
    roots, cannot be changed by so-called conversion therapy and that
    transition improves quality of life and lessens dysphoria in
    transgender
    individuals.

    No so-called 'conversion therapy' is required because conversion is
    impossible without a complete DNA transplant.

    Thanks for admitting you cannot change someone's gender identity.

    Thanks for admitting that your immutable DNA prevents you from
    accomplishing 'gender appropriation'.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/
    Of course, not all trans people are dysphoric, but that doesn't mean >>>>> being trans is a choice for some people.

    Being delusional is not a choice either.

    More nonsense that fits your idiocy: http://parentsofrogdkids.com/

    The social media platforms are doing a great job spreading delusions
    among the young and vulnerable.  It never used to happen before to
    anything like this extent.

    Correlation does not equal causation, you dimwit. Maybe it's the 2007 financial crisis that caused the increase in gender clinic referrals?

    The author of this website needs to get this bag under their chin:
    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.explicit.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.AZVWljQpEpjDvxnxHChy-wHaL4%26pid%3DApi&f=1


    More correctly, 'transbenders' like you need to. A BIG bag.

    You are good at producing bullshit. Most of Usenet is bullshit.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    A signature of a conspiracy theory worshipper. Sure, I probably believe
    in conspiracy theories, but that's only if I *don't* know it is just a conspiracy theory.

    No one needs to search the web to know you are pulling your dick, and
    know you hate anyone who doesn't agree with you.





    Michael Christ


    --
    Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

    "Compromise will condemn you".

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life".

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything".

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "The don't believe and put their faith in the [any] truth.
    So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Tue Oct 19 12:54:47 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:54:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/8/21 10:57 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 18:58:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/6/21 12:13 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 22:20:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/4/21 8:38 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:23:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/3/21 12:14 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of the >>>>>>>>> booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they are talking
    about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf

    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than the >>>>>>>> sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Have you followed the link and read the document? It is bullshit. >>>>>>
    What exactly about it is 'bullshit'? It panders to 'transbenders' to >>>>>> some extent (that would count as bullshit) but doesn't go as far as >>>>>> most of your 'woke' compatriots and sets some boundaries.
    The "trans-identified" term alone is a slur against trans people.

    Really? How about all these other 'woke' terms: agender, neutral
    gender, null-gender, genderless, neutrois, androgyne, bigender, butch, >>>> cisgender, gender expansive, gender fluid, gender outlaw(!), gender
    queer, masculine of centre, non-binary, omnigender, polygender,
    pangender, transgender, trans, transsexual, and two spirit?

    Which are slurs and which are not?

    No comment, then?

    "Since children have been taught about gender identity, calls to
    Childline from children worried about their gender have doubled to eight >>>>> calls a day from children as young as 11."

    Naturally, if you teach about gender identity then more children can >>>>> relate to experiences with their gender identity and call to Childline. >>>>
    This is merely confusing children at a vulnerable age. Add that to
    the Facebook/Instagram pressure and you end up with delusional
    kiddies.


    There is no evidence that children can get confused bout their gender
    identity. If anything, they are brainwashed into being cis.

    There is no evidence that children, if left alone, would suffer from
    attempted 'gender appropriation'. If anything, they are brainwashed
    into thinking they're 'transbenders' by the 'woke' media and the
    social media platforms.

    Bullshit. There are a lot of young trans children who insist they are >different gender without any exposure to transgender idea. If any >brainwashing occurs, it's society-wide brainwashing into fitting
    cisnormative norms.

    Horseshit. A lot of young children are fucked in the head for all
    kinds of different reasons...diet being one.

    I was a trans woman since my *birth* and the reason
    why I only realized it now is exactly because of cisnormative propaganda >machine.

    Horeshit. You were never a 'transbender woman'. Look between your
    legs. You're male. End of story.

    Even if the person had make a mistake by transitioning, the person would >almost certainly experience gender dysphoria and stop before any
    irreversible damage is done. That's exactly why detransitioning after a
    long time of living as your authentic gender is extremely rare (unless
    you are brainwashed by http://reddit.com/r/detrans, that's it).

    Nobody has ever made a mistake by transitioning from one sex to
    another because it isn't physically possible.

    "In a study of young women who regret their transition, 93% said they >>>>> did not receive adequate counselling before starting a path of medical >>>>> transition so underlying problems were not resolved"

    Then you should have found a better gender therapist or better yet,
    multiple gender therapist that know their shit.

    In other words, some other 'woke' quack/charlatan (probably jewish)
    who actually believes in 'gender appropriation'.
    Normal therapists also affirm your gender identity.

    Only those delusional enough to believe it exists.

    Are you really that lazy to not search the Web for it?

    Are you really that delusional that you actually believe it?

    This is a link from ScienceDirect, ran by a *scientific* publishing
    company Elsevier:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/gender-identity

    More 'woke' horseshit. It seems that not even 'scientists' are immune
    from 'woke' influences.

    "Rapid onset gender dysphoria is thought to be linked to internet use >>>>> and social contagion"

    I read *exactly* that study and it's bullshit.
    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0214157

    It is anything but bullshit. Zuckersteen and Co. are responsible for
    a LOT of it.

    Kenny Zuck is a conversion therapy bullshitter.

    No conversion therapy is ever needed, because no conversion of sex can
    take place.

    By conversion therapy, I mean 'changing one's sexual orientation or
    gender identity'.

    Sexual disorientation between hetero and homo can change but not sex
    or 'gender identity'.

    Should my child come out to you as transgender and/or
    non-binary, I will seek gender-affirming care, not the bullshit
    conversion therapy disguised as "exploration therapy". You will,
    however, obviously search for a therapist that is stupid enough to buy
    into "accepting your biological sex" bullshit, ignoring that gender
    identity is largely influenced by biological factors: >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6677266/
    I'm myself meeting with a gender therapist (that who works at UCSF >Gender-Affirming Health Program) last time so I can discover my gender >identity and deal with transphobia.

    Should your child have delusions of being 'transbender', I would
    suggest giving it a good slap in the head.

    This post on known hate forum r/detrans is a good pseudoscientific
    crankery on how to abuse your child and make them self-harm and commit >suicide: >https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/cakpjq/whats_a_parent_to_do/

    DO *NOT* BELIEVE OR FOLLOW ADVICE HERE OR ON THE LINK ABOVE.

    Pseudoscientific crankery? And this from someone who believes it is
    possible to change from one sex to another!

    "Realize there is a good chance it will pass, esp if you focus on
    handling the right way. It's not hopeless."

    If you scare away the trans girl in subject then it will "pass for
    everyone else" but not for her.


    "Totally accept all gender non-conformity. But do NOT accept the
    pronouns or the new identity."

    Don't scream at me if your child commits suicide due to refusing of
    usage of your child's true name. Also, what do you define as "new identity"?


    "The facts do not support transition for the vast majority of dysphoric >people, let alone youth. Transition only alleviates dysphoria for a
    while and then it comes back, with massive social, medical, and
    psychological consequences."

    All absolutely true.

    Bullshit, the evidence shows the exact opposite.

    Less than 1% people who transitioned commit suicide: >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7317390/

    And yet it is 'transbenders' themselves who are always bitching about
    'cis' society forcing them into suicide!

    Detransition and regret rate is below 1%: >https://web.archive.org/web/20210912112235/https://www.gendergp.com/evidenced-research-on-detransition-regret-newsnight/

    Honestly, if it was true what the poster is saying, the suicide,
    detransition and regret rate would be a lot higher.

    It is high and should be higher.

    "Nearly 70% of referrals to the Tavistock gender clinic last year were >>>>> girls and over 70% of adolescent referrals were girls"

    And what's wrong with that? Why have you put this fact in your bullshit >>>>> handbook on child abuse?

    Is there any implication in the statement that it's 'wrong'? It's
    merely adding a fact.

    Yes, but it's weaponized against trans people. You can give a clip to a
    TERF and they will turn it into a deadly weapon.

    It's a fact, pure and simple. No intention to 'weaponise' is implied
    or inferred.

    It is bullshit, pure and simple.

    It is far from being bullshit. It is FACT, which you seem to be
    immune to.

    "There has been a nearly 1,000% increase in children referred to the >>>>> Tavistock child and adolescent gender clinic over the past six years." >>>>>
    That's simply because there is more awareness about being transgender >>>>> and increasing evidence on effectiveness of gender-affirming care, you >>>>> righttard.

    No, that's simply because more and more children are being
    indoctrinated with this 'woke' horseshit, you lefttard.

    No comment here either?

    Maybe it is because children are more likely to come out these days.

    Which is because they are being indoctrinated. Duh.

    "Most children who start puberty blockers progress to cross-sex hormones >>>>> at age 16, leaving them infertile; very few come off the path of
    increasingly invasive medical treatments once they start."

    "There is no research into the long?term effects of these treatments on >>>>> children"

    Bullshit point. Not every long-term effect can be researched ethically. >>>>
    Long term effects NEED to be researched: how does ethics even come
    into it?


    Transphobes cry over puberty blockers yet we don't know long-term
    effects of COVID-19 vaccines.

    Puberty blockers are pointless...they still won't smooth the
    'transition' from one sex to the other.

    They can lessen gender dysphoria. Getting puberty blockers is already >challenging enough, we could give them hormones straight but it's
    unethical to insert them in people who don't know what they're doing.
    IMHO, they should be at least 16 and mature enough to understand
    *everything* that comes with this treatment.

    This is a good read on puberty blockers: >https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075

    Now someone will say that almost 100% will go on cross-sex hormones, but >that's just due to *very* conservative process of determining children
    who *need* puberty blocking. They aren't given to anyone who says "I
    want them" due to obvious reasons.

    They can take all the fucking hormones they want...males will remain
    male, females will remain female. Hormones won't change their DNA.

    "Patients at gender clinics are 6x more likeuly to be on the autistic >>>>> spectrum than the general population"

    Correlation does not equal causation, you moron.

    It doesn't need to, you cretin. It merely shows that these people are >>>> not quite right in the head to begin with.

    "Extreme gender non-conformity in childhood and adolescence is more
    predictive of gay or lesbian sexual orientation"

    "Childhood gender dysphoria naturally resolves during adolescence in >>>>> around 80% of cases"

    Based on outdated studies that was created in dark ages of transgender >>>>> care. Even if it's true, adolescents with gender dysphoria should be >>>>> helped upon.

    Helped upon to dispel their delusions with facts and reality checks.

    Unless they are de-desisters (hi Zinnia Jones):

    https://genderanalysis.net/2017/10/when-desisters-arent-de-desistance-in-childhood-and-adolescent-gender-dysphoria/

    Yet more 'woke' horseshit.

    You choose to be ignorant and to close yourself in right-wing echo chambers.

    You choose to be delusional and to close yourself in left wing
    'wokery'.

    "Around 50% of children referred to the Tavistock clinic have underlying >>>>> mental health issues"

    Again, correlation does not equal causation. It's highly probable that >>>>> it's gender dysphoria that underlies their mental health. Thanks for >>>>> contributing to that number with the "how to make trans children kill >>>>> themselves" handbook.

    Mentally ill and delusional people had higher suicide rates before
    'gender appropriation' ever came along.

    Trans people are mentally ill because of assholes like you and
    discomfort over their sex characteristics.

    It's 'transbender' assholes like you who attempt 'gender
    appropriation' as a *result* of mental illness and then commit suicide
    when you fail and realise you're still male or female as the case may
    be.

    Bullshit, I was in a conversion therapy camp back in 70s and attempted >suicide. Luckily I was rescued.

    Luckily? I would say unluckily. Try again, asshole!

    Woke up, sunshine: you can no more transition from one sex to another >>>>>>>> than you can from one race to another.
    Sorry, you mistake gender with sex.

    Sorry, gender is exclusively a grammatical term applied to nouns and >>>>>> pronouns. People only have sexes.
    Then what is gender identity?

    There's no such thing. People have sexes, nouns and pronouns have
    genders.


    What about gender identity?

    No such thing exists separate from sexual identity. It's a
    'transbender' myth.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/

    Neuroplasticity. Ever heard of it? The brain adapts to the
    delusions.

    I'm not pulling that out of my ass

    Someone else did before you.

    while
    there is no direct proof of it (proofs exist only within realm of
    mathematics),

    Proofs exist beyond the realm of mathematics.

    There is evidence that conversion therapy doesn't work, but there's no
    proof of that.

    There is evidence that conversion from one sex to another doesn't
    work, so who needs conversion therapy?

    there is indirect evidence that gender identity, might be,
    in fact, real.

    Only in so much as any other delusions are 'real'.
    You are ignorant of science of transgender identity.

    There is no such 'science'...it's all horseshit.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/

    See above.

    There is evidence that gender identity has biological
    roots, cannot be changed by so-called conversion therapy and that
    transition improves quality of life and lessens dysphoria in transgender >>>>> individuals.

    No so-called 'conversion therapy' is required because conversion is
    impossible without a complete DNA transplant.

    Thanks for admitting you cannot change someone's gender identity.

    Thanks for admitting that your immutable DNA prevents you from
    accomplishing 'gender appropriation'.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/

    Again, a 'transbender' brain has the same DNA it was born with.

    Of course, not all trans people are dysphoric, but that doesn't mean >>>>> being trans is a choice for some people.

    Being delusional is not a choice either.

    More nonsense that fits your idiocy: http://parentsofrogdkids.com/

    The social media platforms are doing a great job spreading delusions
    among the young and vulnerable. It never used to happen before to
    anything like this extent.

    Correlation does not equal causation, you dimwit. Maybe it's the 2007 >financial crisis that caused the increase in gender clinic referrals?

    Why would a financial crisis cause increases in 'transbender'
    referrals, you idiot? The OPPOSITE is far more likely!

    The author of this website needs to get this bag under their chin:
    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.explicit.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.AZVWljQpEpjDvxnxHChy-wHaL4%26pid%3DApi&f=1

    More correctly, 'transbenders' like you need to. A BIG bag.

    You are good at producing bullshit. Most of Usenet is bullshit.

    And this from a delusional 'transbender'. Oh, the irony!
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to Michael Christ on Thu Oct 21 17:46:00 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 10/18/21 9:30 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 19/10/2021 4:54 am, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 10/8/21 10:57 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 18:58:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/6/21 12:13 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 22:20:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/4/21 8:38 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:23:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/3/21 12:14 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of >>>>>>>>>> the
    booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they >>>>>>>>>> are talking
    about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf


    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than the >>>>>>>>> sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Have you followed the link and read the document? It is bullshit. >>>>>>>
    What exactly about it is 'bullshit'?  It panders to
    'transbenders' to
    some extent (that would count as bullshit) but doesn't go as far as >>>>>>> most of your 'woke' compatriots and sets some boundaries.
    The "trans-identified" term alone is a slur against trans people.

    Really?  How about all these other 'woke' terms: agender, neutral
    gender, null-gender, genderless, neutrois, androgyne, bigender, butch, >>>>> cisgender, gender expansive, gender fluid, gender outlaw(!), gender
    queer, masculine of centre, non-binary, omnigender, polygender,
    pangender, transgender, trans, transsexual, and two spirit?

    Which are slurs and which are not?

    No comment, then?

    "Since children have been taught about ‘gender identity,’ calls to >>>>>> Childline from children worried about their gender have doubled to >>>>>> eight
    calls a day from children as young as 11."

    Naturally, if you teach about gender identity then more children can >>>>>> relate to experiences with their gender identity and call to
    Childline.

    This is merely confusing children at a vulnerable age.  Add that to >>>>> the Facebook/Instagram pressure and you end up with delusional
    kiddies.


    There is no evidence that children can get confused bout their gender
    identity. If anything, they are brainwashed into being cis.

    There is no evidence that children, if left alone, would suffer from
    attempted 'gender appropriation'.  If anything, they are brainwashed
    into thinking they're 'transbenders' by the 'woke' media and the
    social media platforms.

    Bullshit. There are a lot of young trans children who insist they are
    different gender without any exposure to transgender idea. If any
    brainwashing occurs, it's society-wide brainwashing into fitting
    cisnormative norms. I was a trans woman since my *birth* and the
    reason why I only realized it now is exactly because of cisnormative
    propaganda machine.

    Even if the person had make a mistake by transitioning, the person
    would almost certainly experience gender dysphoria and stop before any
    irreversible damage is done. That's exactly why detransitioning after
    a long time of living as your authentic gender is extremely rare
    (unless you are brainwashed by http://reddit.com/r/detrans, that's it). >>>>>> "In a study of young women who regret their transition, 93% said they >>>>>> did not receive adequate counselling before starting a path of
    medical
    transition so underlying problems were not resolved"

    Then you should have found a better gender therapist or better yet, >>>>>> multiple gender therapist that know their shit.

    In other words, some other 'woke' quack/charlatan (probably jewish)
    who actually believes in 'gender appropriation'.
    Normal therapists also affirm your gender identity.

    Only those delusional enough to believe it exists.

    Are you really that lazy to not search the Web for it?

    This is a link from ScienceDirect, ran by a *scientific* publishing
    company Elsevier:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/gender-identity >>
    "‘Rapid onset gender dysphoria’ is thought to be linked to
    internet use
    and social contagion"

    I read *exactly* that study and it's bullshit.
    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0214157


    It is anything but bullshit.  Zuckersteen and Co. are responsible for >>>>> a LOT of it.

    Kenny Zuck is a conversion therapy bullshitter.

    No conversion therapy is ever needed, because no conversion of sex can
    take place.

    By conversion therapy, I mean 'changing one's sexual orientation or
    gender identity'. Should my child come out to you as transgender
    and/or non-binary, I will seek gender-affirming care, not the bullshit
    conversion therapy disguised as "exploration therapy". You will,
    however, obviously search for a therapist that is stupid enough to buy
    into "accepting your biological sex" bullshit, ignoring that gender
    identity is largely influenced by biological factors:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6677266/
    I'm myself meeting with a gender therapist (that who works at UCSF
    Gender-Affirming Health Program) last time so I can discover my gender
    identity and deal with transphobia.

    This post on known hate forum r/detrans is a good pseudoscientific
    crankery on how to abuse your child and make them self-harm and commit
    suicide:
    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/cakpjq/whats_a_parent_to_do/

    DO *NOT* BELIEVE OR FOLLOW ADVICE HERE OR ON THE LINK ABOVE.


    "Realize there is a good chance it will pass, esp if you focus on
    handling the right way. It's not hopeless."

    If you scare away the trans girl in subject then it will "pass for
    everyone else" but not for her.


    "Totally accept all gender non-conformity. But do NOT accept the
    pronouns or the new identity."

    Don't scream at me if your child commits suicide due to refusing of
    usage of your child's true name. Also, what do you define as "new
    identity"?


    "The facts do not support transition for the vast majority of
    dysphoric people, let alone youth. Transition only alleviates
    dysphoria for a while and then it comes back, with massive social,
    medical, and psychological consequences."

    Bullshit, the evidence shows the exact opposite.

    Less than 1% people who transitioned commit suicide:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7317390/

    Detransition and regret rate is below 1%:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210912112235/https://www.gendergp.com/evidenced-research-on-detransition-regret-newsnight/


    Honestly, if it was true what the poster is saying, the suicide,
    detransition and regret rate would be a lot higher.

    "Nearly 70% of referrals to the Tavistock gender clinic last year
    were
    girls and over 70% of adolescent referrals  were girls"

    And what's wrong with that? Why have you put this fact in your
    bullshit
    handbook on child abuse?

    Is there any implication in the statement that it's 'wrong'?  It's
    merely adding a fact.

    Yes, but it's weaponized against trans people. You can give a clip to a >>>> TERF and they will turn it into a deadly weapon.

    It's a fact, pure and simple.  No intention to 'weaponise' is implied
    or inferred.

    It is bullshit, pure and simple.

    "There has been a nearly 1,000% increase in children referred to the >>>>>> Tavistock child and adolescent gender clinic over the past six
    years."

    That's simply because there is more awareness about being transgender >>>>>> and increasing evidence on effectiveness of gender-affirming care, >>>>>> you
    righttard.

    No, that's simply because more and more children are being
    indoctrinated with this 'woke' horseshit, you lefttard.

    No comment here either?

    Maybe it is because children are more likely to come out these days.

    "Most children who start puberty blockers progress to cross-sex
    hormones
    at age 16, leaving them infertile; very few come off the path of
    increasingly invasive medical treatments once they start."

    "There is no research into the long?term effects of these
    treatments on
    children"

    Bullshit point. Not every long-term effect can be researched
    ethically.

    Long term effects NEED to be researched:  how does ethics even come >>>>> into it?


    Transphobes cry over puberty blockers yet we don't know long-term
    effects of COVID-19 vaccines.

    Puberty blockers are pointless...they still won't smooth the
    'transition' from one sex to the other.

    They can lessen gender dysphoria. Getting puberty blockers is already
    challenging enough, we could give them hormones straight but it's
    unethical to insert them in people who don't know what they're doing.
    IMHO, they should be at least 16 and mature enough to understand
    *everything* that comes with this treatment.

    This is a good read on puberty blockers:
    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075


    Now someone will say that almost 100% will go on cross-sex hormones,
    but that's just due to *very* conservative process of determining
    children who *need* puberty blocking. They aren't given to anyone who
    says "I want them" due to obvious reasons.

    "Patients at gender clinics are 6x more likeuly to be on the autistic >>>>>> spectrum than the general population"

    Correlation does not equal causation, you moron.

    It doesn't need to, you cretin.  It merely shows that these people are >>>>> not quite right in the head to begin with.

    "Extreme gender non-conformity in childhood and adolescence is more >>>>>> predictive of gay or lesbian sexual orientation"

    "Childhood gender dysphoria naturally resolves during adolescence in >>>>>> around 80% of cases"

    Based on outdated studies that was created in dark ages of
    transgender
    care. Even if it's true, adolescents with gender dysphoria should be >>>>>> helped upon.

    Helped upon to dispel their delusions with facts and reality checks.

    Unless they are de-desisters (hi Zinnia Jones):

    https://genderanalysis.net/2017/10/when-desisters-arent-de-desistance-in-childhood-and-adolescent-gender-dysphoria/


    Yet more 'woke' horseshit.

    You choose to be ignorant and to close yourself in right-wing echo
    chambers.
    "Around 50% of children referred to the Tavistock clinic have
    underlying
    mental health issues"

    Again, correlation does not equal causation. It's highly probable
    that
    it's gender dysphoria that underlies their mental health. Thanks for >>>>>> contributing to that number with the "how to make trans children kill >>>>>> themselves" handbook.

    Mentally ill and delusional people had higher suicide rates before
    'gender appropriation' ever came along.

    Trans people are mentally ill because of assholes like you and
    discomfort over their sex characteristics.

    It's 'transbender' assholes like you who attempt 'gender
    appropriation' as a *result* of mental illness and then commit suicide
    when you fail and realise you're still male or female as the case may
    be.

    Bullshit, I was in a conversion therapy camp back in 70s and attempted
    suicide. Luckily I was rescued.
    Woke up, sunshine:  you can no more transition from one sex to >>>>>>>>> another
    than you can from one race to another.
    Sorry, you mistake gender with sex.

    Sorry, gender is exclusively a grammatical term applied to nouns and >>>>>>> pronouns.  People only have sexes.
    Then what is gender identity?

    There's no such thing.  People have sexes, nouns and pronouns have
    genders.


    What about gender identity?

    No such thing exists separate from sexual identity.  It's a
    'transbender' myth.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/
    I'm not pulling that out of my ass

    Someone else did before you.

    while
    there is no direct proof of it (proofs exist only within realm of
    mathematics),

    Proofs exist beyond the realm of mathematics.

    There is evidence that conversion therapy doesn't work, but there's no >>>> proof of that.

    There is evidence that conversion from one sex to another doesn't
    work, so who needs conversion therapy?

    there is indirect evidence that gender identity, might be,
    in fact, real.

    Only in so much as any other delusions are 'real'.
    You are ignorant of science of transgender identity.

    There is no such 'science'...it's all horseshit.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/
    There is evidence that gender identity has biological
    roots, cannot be changed by so-called conversion therapy and that
    transition improves quality of life and lessens dysphoria in
    transgender
    individuals.

    No so-called 'conversion therapy' is required because conversion is
    impossible without a complete DNA transplant.

    Thanks for admitting you cannot change someone's gender identity.

    Thanks for admitting that your immutable DNA prevents you from
    accomplishing 'gender appropriation'.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/
    Of course, not all trans people are dysphoric, but that doesn't mean >>>>>> being trans is a choice for some people.

    Being delusional is not a choice either.

    More nonsense that fits your idiocy: http://parentsofrogdkids.com/

    The social media platforms are doing a great job spreading delusions
    among the young and vulnerable.  It never used to happen before to
    anything like this extent.

    Correlation does not equal causation, you dimwit. Maybe it's the 2007
    financial crisis that caused the increase in gender clinic referrals?

    The author of this website needs to get this bag under their chin:
    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.explicit.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.AZVWljQpEpjDvxnxHChy-wHaL4%26pid%3DApi&f=1


    More correctly, 'transbenders' like you need to. A BIG bag.

    You are good at producing bullshit. Most of Usenet is bullshit.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    A signature of a conspiracy theory worshipper. Sure, I probably
    believe in conspiracy theories, but that's only if I *don't* know it
    is just a conspiracy theory.

    No one needs to search the web to know you are pulling your dick, and
    know you hate anyone who doesn't agree with you.

    You know you are being hateful towards transgender people like me. Fuck off.





    Michael Christ




    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Oct 21 17:57:00 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 10/19/21 11:54 AM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:54:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/8/21 10:57 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 18:58:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/6/21 12:13 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 22:20:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/4/21 8:38 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:23:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/3/21 12:14 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of the >>>>>>>>>> booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they are talking
    about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf

    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than the >>>>>>>>> sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Have you followed the link and read the document? It is bullshit. >>>>>>>
    What exactly about it is 'bullshit'? It panders to 'transbenders' to >>>>>>> some extent (that would count as bullshit) but doesn't go as far as >>>>>>> most of your 'woke' compatriots and sets some boundaries.
    The "trans-identified" term alone is a slur against trans people.

    Really? How about all these other 'woke' terms: agender, neutral
    gender, null-gender, genderless, neutrois, androgyne, bigender, butch, >>>>> cisgender, gender expansive, gender fluid, gender outlaw(!), gender
    queer, masculine of centre, non-binary, omnigender, polygender,
    pangender, transgender, trans, transsexual, and two spirit?

    Which are slurs and which are not?

    No comment, then?

    "Since children have been taught about ‘gender identity,’ calls to >>>>>> Childline from children worried about their gender have doubled to eight >>>>>> calls a day from children as young as 11."

    Naturally, if you teach about gender identity then more children can >>>>>> relate to experiences with their gender identity and call to Childline. >>>>>
    This is merely confusing children at a vulnerable age. Add that to
    the Facebook/Instagram pressure and you end up with delusional
    kiddies.


    There is no evidence that children can get confused bout their gender
    identity. If anything, they are brainwashed into being cis.

    There is no evidence that children, if left alone, would suffer from
    attempted 'gender appropriation'. If anything, they are brainwashed
    into thinking they're 'transbenders' by the 'woke' media and the
    social media platforms.

    Bullshit. There are a lot of young trans children who insist they are
    different gender without any exposure to transgender idea. If any
    brainwashing occurs, it's society-wide brainwashing into fitting
    cisnormative norms.

    Horseshit. A lot of young children are fucked in the head for all
    kinds of different reasons...diet being one.

    I was a trans woman since my *birth* and the reason
    why I only realized it now is exactly because of cisnormative propaganda
    machine.

    Horeshit. You were never a 'transbender woman'. Look between your
    legs. You're male. End of story.

    Bingo. I'm a woman with penis. A transgender woman.

    You said "horeshit" and skipped an "S".

    Even if the person had make a mistake by transitioning, the person would
    almost certainly experience gender dysphoria and stop before any
    irreversible damage is done. That's exactly why detransitioning after a
    long time of living as your authentic gender is extremely rare (unless
    you are brainwashed by http://reddit.com/r/detrans, that's it).

    Nobody has ever made a mistake by transitioning from one sex to
    another because it isn't physically possible.


    It *is* possible to some degree, there are many cis-passing trans people.

    "In a study of young women who regret their transition, 93% said they >>>>>> did not receive adequate counselling before starting a path of medical >>>>>> transition so underlying problems were not resolved"

    Then you should have found a better gender therapist or better yet, >>>>>> multiple gender therapist that know their shit.

    In other words, some other 'woke' quack/charlatan (probably jewish)
    who actually believes in 'gender appropriation'.
    Normal therapists also affirm your gender identity.

    Only those delusional enough to believe it exists.

    Are you really that lazy to not search the Web for it?

    Are you really that delusional that you actually believe it?


    Try living as a trans woman for several months. You will experience the
    truth of gender identity on your own skin.

    This is a link from ScienceDirect, ran by a *scientific* publishing
    company Elsevier:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/gender-identity

    More 'woke' horseshit. It seems that not even 'scientists' are immune
    from 'woke' influences.


    Stupid denialist argument, but since you are a conspiracy theorist, you
    are ready to believe there is an evil "trans agenda" infiltrating science.

    "‘Rapid onset gender dysphoria’ is thought to be linked to internet use
    and social contagion"

    I read *exactly* that study and it's bullshit.
    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0214157

    It is anything but bullshit. Zuckersteen and Co. are responsible for >>>>> a LOT of it.

    Kenny Zuck is a conversion therapy bullshitter.

    No conversion therapy is ever needed, because no conversion of sex can
    take place.

    By conversion therapy, I mean 'changing one's sexual orientation or
    gender identity'.

    Sexual disorientation between hetero and homo can change but not sex
    or 'gender identity'.

    Should my child come out to you as transgender and/or
    non-binary, I will seek gender-affirming care, not the bullshit
    conversion therapy disguised as "exploration therapy". You will,
    however, obviously search for a therapist that is stupid enough to buy
    into "accepting your biological sex" bullshit, ignoring that gender
    identity is largely influenced by biological factors:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6677266/
    I'm myself meeting with a gender therapist (that who works at UCSF
    Gender-Affirming Health Program) last time so I can discover my gender
    identity and deal with transphobia.

    Should your child have delusions of being 'transbender', I would
    suggest giving it a good slap in the head.


    If you want to push your child back into closet and commit suicide, then
    sure, do it. You shouldn't be a parent, considering that there is 1-2%
    chance your child will identify as transgender. That's 4 million times
    more than your chance to win a Powerball jackpot.


    This post on known hate forum r/detrans is a good pseudoscientific
    crankery on how to abuse your child and make them self-harm and commit
    suicide:
    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/cakpjq/whats_a_parent_to_do/

    DO *NOT* BELIEVE OR FOLLOW ADVICE HERE OR ON THE LINK ABOVE.

    Pseudoscientific crankery? And this from someone who believes it is
    possible to change from one sex to another!

    "Realize there is a good chance it will pass, esp if you focus on
    handling the right way. It's not hopeless."

    If you scare away the trans girl in subject then it will "pass for
    everyone else" but not for her.


    "Totally accept all gender non-conformity. But do NOT accept the
    pronouns or the new identity."

    Don't scream at me if your child commits suicide due to refusing of
    usage of your child's true name. Also, what do you define as "new identity"? >>

    "The facts do not support transition for the vast majority of dysphoric
    people, let alone youth. Transition only alleviates dysphoria for a
    while and then it comes back, with massive social, medical, and
    psychological consequences."

    All absolutely true.

    Evidence??

    Bullshit, the evidence shows the exact opposite.

    Less than 1% people who transitioned commit suicide:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7317390/

    And yet it is 'transbenders' themselves who are always bitching about
    'cis' society forcing them into suicide!

    It's because it's hard to *transition*.

    Detransition and regret rate is below 1%:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210912112235/https://www.gendergp.com/evidenced-research-on-detransition-regret-newsnight/

    Honestly, if it was true what the poster is saying, the suicide,
    detransition and regret rate would be a lot higher.

    It is high and should be higher.

    Show me your sources.

    "Nearly 70% of referrals to the Tavistock gender clinic last year were >>>>>> girls and over 70% of adolescent referrals were girls"

    And what's wrong with that? Why have you put this fact in your bullshit >>>>>> handbook on child abuse?

    Is there any implication in the statement that it's 'wrong'? It's
    merely adding a fact.

    Yes, but it's weaponized against trans people. You can give a clip to a >>>> TERF and they will turn it into a deadly weapon.

    It's a fact, pure and simple. No intention to 'weaponise' is implied
    or inferred.

    It is bullshit, pure and simple.

    It is far from being bullshit. It is FACT, which you seem to be
    immune to.

    You are immune to scientific truth. Science takes first place over
    political crankery.

    "There has been a nearly 1,000% increase in children referred to the >>>>>> Tavistock child and adolescent gender clinic over the past six years." >>>>>>
    That's simply because there is more awareness about being transgender >>>>>> and increasing evidence on effectiveness of gender-affirming care, you >>>>>> righttard.

    No, that's simply because more and more children are being
    indoctrinated with this 'woke' horseshit, you lefttard.

    No comment here either?

    Maybe it is because children are more likely to come out these days.

    Which is because they are being indoctrinated. Duh.

    Or is it because it's more acceptable to be trans these days?

    "Most children who start puberty blockers progress to cross-sex hormones >>>>>> at age 16, leaving them infertile; very few come off the path of
    increasingly invasive medical treatments once they start."

    "There is no research into the long?term effects of these treatments on >>>>>> children"

    Bullshit point. Not every long-term effect can be researched ethically. >>>>>
    Long term effects NEED to be researched: how does ethics even come
    into it?


    Transphobes cry over puberty blockers yet we don't know long-term
    effects of COVID-19 vaccines.

    Puberty blockers are pointless...they still won't smooth the
    'transition' from one sex to the other.

    They can lessen gender dysphoria. Getting puberty blockers is already
    challenging enough, we could give them hormones straight but it's
    unethical to insert them in people who don't know what they're doing.
    IMHO, they should be at least 16 and mature enough to understand
    *everything* that comes with this treatment.

    This is a good read on puberty blockers:
    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075

    Now someone will say that almost 100% will go on cross-sex hormones, but
    that's just due to *very* conservative process of determining children
    who *need* puberty blocking. They aren't given to anyone who says "I
    want them" due to obvious reasons.

    They can take all the fucking hormones they want...males will remain
    male, females will remain female. Hormones won't change their DNA.

    Changing DNA isn't the goal - trans males are already male and trans
    females like me are already female.

    "Patients at gender clinics are 6x more likeuly to be on the autistic >>>>>> spectrum than the general population"

    Correlation does not equal causation, you moron.

    It doesn't need to, you cretin. It merely shows that these people are >>>>> not quite right in the head to begin with.

    "Extreme gender non-conformity in childhood and adolescence is more >>>>>> predictive of gay or lesbian sexual orientation"

    "Childhood gender dysphoria naturally resolves during adolescence in >>>>>> around 80% of cases"

    Based on outdated studies that was created in dark ages of transgender >>>>>> care. Even if it's true, adolescents with gender dysphoria should be >>>>>> helped upon.

    Helped upon to dispel their delusions with facts and reality checks.

    Unless they are de-desisters (hi Zinnia Jones):

    https://genderanalysis.net/2017/10/when-desisters-arent-de-desistance-in-childhood-and-adolescent-gender-dysphoria/

    Yet more 'woke' horseshit.

    You choose to be ignorant and to close yourself in right-wing echo chambers.

    You choose to be delusional and to close yourself in left wing
    'wokery'.

    You are a wingnut kook and refuse to listen to anything that isn't even
    a tiniest bit right-wing.

    "Around 50% of children referred to the Tavistock clinic have underlying >>>>>> mental health issues"

    Again, correlation does not equal causation. It's highly probable that >>>>>> it's gender dysphoria that underlies their mental health. Thanks for >>>>>> contributing to that number with the "how to make trans children kill >>>>>> themselves" handbook.

    Mentally ill and delusional people had higher suicide rates before
    'gender appropriation' ever came along.

    Trans people are mentally ill because of assholes like you and
    discomfort over their sex characteristics.

    It's 'transbender' assholes like you who attempt 'gender
    appropriation' as a *result* of mental illness and then commit suicide
    when you fail and realise you're still male or female as the case may
    be.

    Bullshit, I was in a conversion therapy camp back in 70s and attempted
    suicide. Luckily I was rescued.

    Luckily? I would say unluckily. Try again, asshole!

    You know this is transphobia, right? You can be prosecuted in some
    states for sending this messages on Usenet.

    Woke up, sunshine: you can no more transition from one sex to another
    than you can from one race to another.
    Sorry, you mistake gender with sex.

    Sorry, gender is exclusively a grammatical term applied to nouns and >>>>>>> pronouns. People only have sexes.
    Then what is gender identity?

    There's no such thing. People have sexes, nouns and pronouns have
    genders.


    What about gender identity?

    No such thing exists separate from sexual identity. It's a
    'transbender' myth.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/

    Neuroplasticity. Ever heard of it? The brain adapts to the
    delusions.


    Neuroplasticity doesn't mean that you can change your gender identity.
    Such efforts have been done in the past without success.

    https://www.wpath.org/media/cms/Documents/SOC v7/SOC V7_English2012.pdf:

    Treatment aimed at trying to change a person’s gender identity and expression to become more congruent with sex assigned at birth has been attempted in the past without success (Gelder & Marks, $%)%; Greenson, $%)(), particularly in the long term (
    Cohen-Kettenis & Kuiper, $%&(; Pauly, $%)*). Such treatment is no longer considered ethical.



    I'm not pulling that out of my ass

    Someone else did before you.

    while
    there is no direct proof of it (proofs exist only within realm of
    mathematics),

    Proofs exist beyond the realm of mathematics.

    There is evidence that conversion therapy doesn't work, but there's no >>>> proof of that.

    There is evidence that conversion from one sex to another doesn't
    work, so who needs conversion therapy?

    there is indirect evidence that gender identity, might be,
    in fact, real.

    Only in so much as any other delusions are 'real'.
    You are ignorant of science of transgender identity.

    There is no such 'science'...it's all horseshit.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/

    See above.

    There is evidence that gender identity has biological
    roots, cannot be changed by so-called conversion therapy and that
    transition improves quality of life and lessens dysphoria in transgender >>>>>> individuals.

    No so-called 'conversion therapy' is required because conversion is
    impossible without a complete DNA transplant.

    Thanks for admitting you cannot change someone's gender identity.

    Thanks for admitting that your immutable DNA prevents you from
    accomplishing 'gender appropriation'.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/

    Again, a 'transbender' brain has the same DNA it was born with.

    Because people are *born* transgender. People can't be made transgender.
    You *refuse* to read anything that can be potentially damaging to your
    beliefs.

    Of course, not all trans people are dysphoric, but that doesn't mean >>>>>> being trans is a choice for some people.

    Being delusional is not a choice either.

    More nonsense that fits your idiocy: http://parentsofrogdkids.com/

    The social media platforms are doing a great job spreading delusions
    among the young and vulnerable. It never used to happen before to
    anything like this extent.

    Correlation does not equal causation, you dimwit. Maybe it's the 2007
    financial crisis that caused the increase in gender clinic referrals?

    Why would a financial crisis cause increases in 'transbender'
    referrals, you idiot? The OPPOSITE is far more likely!


    I think it's just because it's more acceptable to be trans than it used
    to be and are more covered in media than ever before. You need to
    understand that before 2010, society repressed trans people *way* more
    than they do today.

    The author of this website needs to get this bag under their chin:
    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.explicit.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.AZVWljQpEpjDvxnxHChy-wHaL4%26pid%3DApi&f=1

    More correctly, 'transbenders' like you need to. A BIG bag.

    You are good at producing bullshit. Most of Usenet is bullshit.

    And this from a delusional 'transbender'. Oh, the irony!

    And this from the conspiracy theorist talking about FEMA camps in their signature. Look below.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/



    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 22 08:40:25 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On 22/10/2021 4:46 am, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 10/18/21 9:30 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 19/10/2021 4:54 am, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 10/8/21 10:57 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 18:58:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/6/21 12:13 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 22:20:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/4/21 8:38 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:23:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/3/21 12:14 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author >>>>>>>>>>> of the
    booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they >>>>>>>>>>> are talking
    about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf


    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than >>>>>>>>>> the
    sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Have you followed the link and read the document? It is bullshit. >>>>>>>>
    What exactly about it is 'bullshit'?  It panders to
    'transbenders' to
    some extent (that would count as bullshit) but doesn't go as far as >>>>>>>> most of your 'woke' compatriots and sets some boundaries.
    The "trans-identified" term alone is a slur against trans people. >>>>>>
    Really?  How about all these other 'woke' terms: agender, neutral >>>>>> gender, null-gender, genderless, neutrois, androgyne, bigender,
    butch,
    cisgender, gender expansive, gender fluid, gender outlaw(!), gender >>>>>> queer, masculine of centre, non-binary, omnigender, polygender,
    pangender, transgender, trans, transsexual, and two spirit?

    Which are slurs and which are not?

    No comment, then?

    "Since children have been taught about ‘gender identity,’ calls to >>>>>>> Childline from children worried about their gender have doubled
    to eight
    calls a day from children as young as 11."

    Naturally, if you teach about gender identity then more children can >>>>>>> relate to experiences with their gender identity and call to
    Childline.

    This is merely confusing children at a vulnerable age.  Add that to >>>>>> the Facebook/Instagram pressure and you end up with delusional
    kiddies.


    There is no evidence that children can get confused bout their gender >>>>> identity. If anything, they are brainwashed into being cis.

    There is no evidence that children, if left alone, would suffer from
    attempted 'gender appropriation'.  If anything, they are brainwashed
    into thinking they're 'transbenders' by the 'woke' media and the
    social media platforms.

    Bullshit. There are a lot of young trans children who insist they are
    different gender without any exposure to transgender idea. If any
    brainwashing occurs, it's society-wide brainwashing into fitting
    cisnormative norms. I was a trans woman since my *birth* and the
    reason why I only realized it now is exactly because of cisnormative
    propaganda machine.

    Even if the person had make a mistake by transitioning, the person
    would almost certainly experience gender dysphoria and stop before
    any irreversible damage is done. That's exactly why detransitioning
    after a long time of living as your authentic gender is extremely
    rare (unless you are brainwashed by http://reddit.com/r/detrans,
    that's it).
    "In a study of young women who regret their transition, 93% said >>>>>>> they
    did not receive adequate counselling before starting a path of
    medical
    transition so underlying problems were not resolved"

    Then you should have found a better gender therapist or better yet, >>>>>>> multiple gender therapist that know their shit.

    In other words, some other 'woke' quack/charlatan (probably jewish) >>>>>> who actually believes in 'gender appropriation'.
    Normal therapists also affirm your gender identity.

    Only those delusional enough to believe it exists.

    Are you really that lazy to not search the Web for it?

    This is a link from ScienceDirect, ran by a *scientific* publishing
    company Elsevier:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/gender-identity >>>
    "‘Rapid onset gender dysphoria’ is thought to be linked to
    internet use
    and social contagion"

    I read *exactly* that study and it's bullshit.
    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0214157


    It is anything but bullshit.  Zuckersteen and Co. are responsible for >>>>>> a LOT of it.

    Kenny Zuck is a conversion therapy bullshitter.

    No conversion therapy is ever needed, because no conversion of sex can >>>> take place.

    By conversion therapy, I mean 'changing one's sexual orientation or
    gender identity'. Should my child come out to you as transgender
    and/or non-binary, I will seek gender-affirming care, not the
    bullshit conversion therapy disguised as "exploration therapy". You
    will, however, obviously search for a therapist that is stupid enough
    to buy into "accepting your biological sex" bullshit, ignoring that
    gender identity is largely influenced by biological factors:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6677266/
    I'm myself meeting with a gender therapist (that who works at UCSF
    Gender-Affirming Health Program) last time so I can discover my
    gender identity and deal with transphobia.

    This post on known hate forum r/detrans is a good pseudoscientific
    crankery on how to abuse your child and make them self-harm and
    commit suicide:
    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/cakpjq/whats_a_parent_to_do/

    DO *NOT* BELIEVE OR FOLLOW ADVICE HERE OR ON THE LINK ABOVE.


    "Realize there is a good chance it will pass, esp if you focus on
    handling the right way. It's not hopeless."

    If you scare away the trans girl in subject then it will "pass for
    everyone else" but not for her.


    "Totally accept all gender non-conformity. But do NOT accept the
    pronouns or the new identity."

    Don't scream at me if your child commits suicide due to refusing of
    usage of your child's true name. Also, what do you define as "new
    identity"?


    "The facts do not support transition for the vast majority of
    dysphoric people, let alone youth. Transition only alleviates
    dysphoria for a while and then it comes back, with massive social,
    medical, and psychological consequences."

    Bullshit, the evidence shows the exact opposite.

    Less than 1% people who transitioned commit suicide:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7317390/

    Detransition and regret rate is below 1%:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210912112235/https://www.gendergp.com/evidenced-research-on-detransition-regret-newsnight/


    Honestly, if it was true what the poster is saying, the suicide,
    detransition and regret rate would be a lot higher.

    "Nearly 70% of referrals to the Tavistock gender clinic last year >>>>>>> were
    girls and over 70% of adolescent referrals  were girls"

    And what's wrong with that? Why have you put this fact in your
    bullshit
    handbook on child abuse?

    Is there any implication in the statement that it's 'wrong'?  It's >>>>>> merely adding a fact.

    Yes, but it's weaponized against trans people. You can give a clip
    to a
    TERF and they will turn it into a deadly weapon.

    It's a fact, pure and simple.  No intention to 'weaponise' is implied >>>> or inferred.

    It is bullshit, pure and simple.

    "There has been a nearly 1,000% increase in children referred to the >>>>>>> Tavistock child and adolescent gender clinic over the past six
    years."

    That's simply because there is more awareness about being
    transgender
    and increasing evidence on effectiveness of gender-affirming
    care, you
    righttard.

    No, that's simply because more and more children are being
    indoctrinated with this 'woke' horseshit, you lefttard.

    No comment here either?

    Maybe it is because children are more likely to come out these days.

    "Most children who start puberty blockers progress to cross-sex
    hormones
    at age 16, leaving them infertile; very few come off the path of >>>>>>> increasingly invasive medical treatments once they start."

    "There is no research into the long?term effects of these
    treatments on
    children"

    Bullshit point. Not every long-term effect can be researched
    ethically.

    Long term effects NEED to be researched:  how does ethics even come >>>>>> into it?


    Transphobes cry over puberty blockers yet we don't know long-term
    effects of COVID-19 vaccines.

    Puberty blockers are pointless...they still won't smooth the
    'transition' from one sex to the other.

    They can lessen gender dysphoria. Getting puberty blockers is already
    challenging enough, we could give them hormones straight but it's
    unethical to insert them in people who don't know what they're doing.
    IMHO, they should be at least 16 and mature enough to understand
    *everything* that comes with this treatment.

    This is a good read on puberty blockers:
    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075


    Now someone will say that almost 100% will go on cross-sex hormones,
    but that's just due to *very* conservative process of determining
    children who *need* puberty blocking. They aren't given to anyone who
    says "I want them" due to obvious reasons.

    "Patients at gender clinics are 6x more likeuly to be on the
    autistic
    spectrum than the general population"

    Correlation does not equal causation, you moron.

    It doesn't need to, you cretin.  It merely shows that these people >>>>>> are
    not quite right in the head to begin with.

    "Extreme gender non-conformity in childhood and adolescence is more >>>>>>> predictive of gay or lesbian sexual orientation"

    "Childhood gender dysphoria naturally resolves during adolescence in >>>>>>> around 80% of cases"

    Based on outdated studies that was created in dark ages of
    transgender
    care. Even if it's true, adolescents with gender dysphoria should be >>>>>>> helped upon.

    Helped upon to dispel their delusions with facts and reality checks. >>>>>
    Unless they are de-desisters (hi Zinnia Jones):

    https://genderanalysis.net/2017/10/when-desisters-arent-de-desistance-in-childhood-and-adolescent-gender-dysphoria/


    Yet more 'woke' horseshit.

    You choose to be ignorant and to close yourself in right-wing echo
    chambers.
    "Around 50% of children referred to the Tavistock clinic have
    underlying
    mental health issues"

    Again, correlation does not equal causation. It's highly probable >>>>>>> that
    it's gender dysphoria that underlies their mental health. Thanks for >>>>>>> contributing to that number with the "how to make trans children >>>>>>> kill
    themselves" handbook.

    Mentally ill and delusional people had higher suicide rates before >>>>>> 'gender appropriation' ever came along.

    Trans people are mentally ill because of assholes like you and
    discomfort over their sex characteristics.

    It's 'transbender' assholes like you who attempt 'gender
    appropriation' as a *result* of mental illness and then commit suicide >>>> when you fail and realise you're still male or female as the case may
    be.

    Bullshit, I was in a conversion therapy camp back in 70s and
    attempted suicide. Luckily I was rescued.
    Woke up, sunshine:  you can no more transition from one sex to >>>>>>>>>> another
    than you can from one race to another.
    Sorry, you mistake gender with sex.

    Sorry, gender is exclusively a grammatical term applied to nouns >>>>>>>> and
    pronouns.  People only have sexes.
    Then what is gender identity?

    There's no such thing.  People have sexes, nouns and pronouns have >>>>>> genders.


    What about gender identity?

    No such thing exists separate from sexual identity.  It's a
    'transbender' myth.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/
    I'm not pulling that out of my ass

    Someone else did before you.

    while
    there is no direct proof of it (proofs exist only within realm of >>>>>>> mathematics),

    Proofs exist beyond the realm of mathematics.

    There is evidence that conversion therapy doesn't work, but there's no >>>>> proof of that.

    There is evidence that conversion from one sex to another doesn't
    work, so who needs conversion therapy?

    there is indirect evidence that gender identity, might be,
    in fact, real.

    Only in so much as any other delusions are 'real'.
    You are ignorant of science of transgender identity.

    There is no such 'science'...it's all horseshit.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/
    There is evidence that gender identity has biological
    roots, cannot be changed by so-called conversion therapy and that >>>>>>> transition improves quality of life and lessens dysphoria in
    transgender
    individuals.

    No so-called 'conversion therapy' is required because conversion is >>>>>> impossible without a complete DNA transplant.

    Thanks for admitting you cannot change someone's gender identity.

    Thanks for admitting that your immutable DNA prevents you from
    accomplishing 'gender appropriation'.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/
    Of course, not all trans people are dysphoric, but that doesn't mean >>>>>>> being trans is a choice for some people.

    Being delusional is not a choice either.

    More nonsense that fits your idiocy: http://parentsofrogdkids.com/

    The social media platforms are doing a great job spreading delusions
    among the young and vulnerable.  It never used to happen before to
    anything like this extent.

    Correlation does not equal causation, you dimwit. Maybe it's the 2007
    financial crisis that caused the increase in gender clinic referrals?

    The author of this website needs to get this bag under their chin:
    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.explicit.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.AZVWljQpEpjDvxnxHChy-wHaL4%26pid%3DApi&f=1


    More correctly, 'transbenders' like you need to. A BIG bag.

    You are good at producing bullshit. Most of Usenet is bullshit.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    A signature of a conspiracy theory worshipper. Sure, I probably
    believe in conspiracy theories, but that's only if I *don't* know it
    is just a conspiracy theory.

    No one needs to search the web to know you are pulling your dick, and
    know you hate anyone who doesn't agree with you.

    You know you are being hateful towards transgender people like me. Fuck
    off.

    Go and be a dick pulling girl if you want to be a dick pulling girl, but
    leave others alone, and stop abusing them.

    Hypocrite dick.

    Thank you.



    Michael Christ


    --
    Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

    "Compromise will condemn you".

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life".

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything".

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in the [any] truth.
    So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Thu Oct 21 23:27:31 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.checkmate, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.politics

    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:57:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/19/21 11:54 AM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:54:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/8/21 10:57 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 18:58:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/6/21 12:13 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 22:20:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/4/21 8:38 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 17:23:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 10/3/21 12:14 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 10:43:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    Full of misinformation and nonsensical bullshit. The author of the >>>>>>>>>>> booklet is either trying to mislead or don't know what they are talking
    about.

    https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Transgender-Trend-Resource-Pack-for-Schools.pdf

    How ironic. There is nothing more nonsensical or bullshit than the >>>>>>>>>> sexual appropriation practised by 'transbenders'.

    Have you followed the link and read the document? It is bullshit. >>>>>>>>
    What exactly about it is 'bullshit'? It panders to 'transbenders' to >>>>>>>> some extent (that would count as bullshit) but doesn't go as far as >>>>>>>> most of your 'woke' compatriots and sets some boundaries.
    The "trans-identified" term alone is a slur against trans people. >>>>>>
    Really? How about all these other 'woke' terms: agender, neutral
    gender, null-gender, genderless, neutrois, androgyne, bigender, butch, >>>>>> cisgender, gender expansive, gender fluid, gender outlaw(!), gender >>>>>> queer, masculine of centre, non-binary, omnigender, polygender,
    pangender, transgender, trans, transsexual, and two spirit?

    Which are slurs and which are not?

    No comment, then?

    "Since children have been taught about gender identity, calls to >>>>>>> Childline from children worried about their gender have doubled to eight
    calls a day from children as young as 11."

    Naturally, if you teach about gender identity then more children can >>>>>>> relate to experiences with their gender identity and call to Childline. >>>>>>
    This is merely confusing children at a vulnerable age. Add that to >>>>>> the Facebook/Instagram pressure and you end up with delusional
    kiddies.


    There is no evidence that children can get confused bout their gender >>>>> identity. If anything, they are brainwashed into being cis.

    There is no evidence that children, if left alone, would suffer from
    attempted 'gender appropriation'. If anything, they are brainwashed
    into thinking they're 'transbenders' by the 'woke' media and the
    social media platforms.

    Bullshit. There are a lot of young trans children who insist they are
    different gender without any exposure to transgender idea. If any
    brainwashing occurs, it's society-wide brainwashing into fitting
    cisnormative norms.

    Horseshit. A lot of young children are fucked in the head for all
    kinds of different reasons...diet being one.

    I was a trans woman since my *birth* and the reason
    why I only realized it now is exactly because of cisnormative propaganda >>> machine.

    Horeshit. You were never a 'transbender woman'. Look between your
    legs. You're male. End of story.

    Bingo. I'm a woman with penis. A transgender woman.

    Horseshit. Women don't got penises. Men do. You're a delusional male pretending to be a woman.

    You said "horeshit" and skipped an "S".

    And you're still delusional.

    Even if the person had make a mistake by transitioning, the person would >>> almost certainly experience gender dysphoria and stop before any
    irreversible damage is done. That's exactly why detransitioning after a
    long time of living as your authentic gender is extremely rare (unless
    you are brainwashed by http://reddit.com/r/detrans, that's it).

    Nobody has ever made a mistake by transitioning from one sex to
    another because it isn't physically possible.


    It *is* possible to some degree, there are many cis-passing trans people.

    It is *never* possible, even with surgery. The DNA remains the same.

    "In a study of young women who regret their transition, 93% said they >>>>>>> did not receive adequate counselling before starting a path of medical >>>>>>> transition so underlying problems were not resolved"

    Then you should have found a better gender therapist or better yet, >>>>>>> multiple gender therapist that know their shit.

    In other words, some other 'woke' quack/charlatan (probably jewish) >>>>>> who actually believes in 'gender appropriation'.
    Normal therapists also affirm your gender identity.

    Only those delusional enough to believe it exists.

    Are you really that lazy to not search the Web for it?

    Are you really that delusional that you actually believe it?


    Try living as a trans woman for several months. You will experience the
    truth of gender identity on your own skin.

    Since there is no such thing as a 'trans woman' your suggestion makes
    no fucking sense. I have no intention of spending several months as a
    female impersonator.

    This is a link from ScienceDirect, ran by a *scientific* publishing
    company Elsevier:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/gender-identity >>
    More 'woke' horseshit. It seems that not even 'scientists' are immune
    from 'woke' influences.


    Stupid denialist argument, but since you are a conspiracy theorist, you
    are ready to believe there is an evil "trans agenda" infiltrating science.

    The evil 'trans agenda' is infiltrating the 'woke' left. Science
    remains unchanged.

    "Rapid onset gender dysphoria is thought to be linked to internet use >>>>>>> and social contagion"

    I read *exactly* that study and it's bullshit.
    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0214157

    It is anything but bullshit. Zuckersteen and Co. are responsible for >>>>>> a LOT of it.

    Kenny Zuck is a conversion therapy bullshitter.

    No conversion therapy is ever needed, because no conversion of sex can >>>> take place.

    By conversion therapy, I mean 'changing one's sexual orientation or
    gender identity'.

    Sexual disorientation between hetero and homo can change but not sex
    or 'gender identity'.

    Should my child come out to you as transgender and/or
    non-binary, I will seek gender-affirming care, not the bullshit
    conversion therapy disguised as "exploration therapy". You will,
    however, obviously search for a therapist that is stupid enough to buy
    into "accepting your biological sex" bullshit, ignoring that gender
    identity is largely influenced by biological factors:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6677266/
    I'm myself meeting with a gender therapist (that who works at UCSF
    Gender-Affirming Health Program) last time so I can discover my gender
    identity and deal with transphobia.

    Should your child have delusions of being 'transbender', I would
    suggest giving it a good slap in the head.


    If you want to push your child back into closet and commit suicide, then >sure, do it. You shouldn't be a parent, considering that there is 1-2%
    chance your child will identify as transgender. That's 4 million times
    more than your chance to win a Powerball jackpot.

    Given enough slaps in the head, it will soon case 'identifying' as
    anything other than what it is.

    This post on known hate forum r/detrans is a good pseudoscientific
    crankery on how to abuse your child and make them self-harm and commit
    suicide:
    https://old.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/cakpjq/whats_a_parent_to_do/

    DO *NOT* BELIEVE OR FOLLOW ADVICE HERE OR ON THE LINK ABOVE.

    Pseudoscientific crankery? And this from someone who believes it is
    possible to change from one sex to another!

    "Realize there is a good chance it will pass, esp if you focus on
    handling the right way. It's not hopeless."

    If you scare away the trans girl in subject then it will "pass for
    everyone else" but not for her.


    "Totally accept all gender non-conformity. But do NOT accept the
    pronouns or the new identity."

    Don't scream at me if your child commits suicide due to refusing of
    usage of your child's true name. Also, what do you define as "new identity"?


    "The facts do not support transition for the vast majority of dysphoric
    people, let alone youth. Transition only alleviates dysphoria for a
    while and then it comes back, with massive social, medical, and
    psychological consequences."

    All absolutely true.

    Evidence??

    Evidence to the contrary?

    Bullshit, the evidence shows the exact opposite.

    Less than 1% people who transitioned commit suicide:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7317390/

    And yet it is 'transbenders' themselves who are always bitching about
    'cis' society forcing them into suicide!

    It's because it's hard to *transition*.

    In fact, it's IMPOSSIBLE to transition.

    Detransition and regret rate is below 1%:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210912112235/https://www.gendergp.com/evidenced-research-on-detransition-regret-newsnight/

    Honestly, if it was true what the poster is saying, the suicide,
    detransition and regret rate would be a lot higher.

    It is high and should be higher.

    Show me your sources.

    You claimed it yourself in another post. No backpedalling allowed,
    sunshine.

    "Nearly 70% of referrals to the Tavistock gender clinic last year were >>>>>>> girls and over 70% of adolescent referrals were girls"

    And what's wrong with that? Why have you put this fact in your bullshit >>>>>>> handbook on child abuse?

    Is there any implication in the statement that it's 'wrong'? It's >>>>>> merely adding a fact.

    Yes, but it's weaponized against trans people. You can give a clip to a >>>>> TERF and they will turn it into a deadly weapon.

    It's a fact, pure and simple. No intention to 'weaponise' is implied
    or inferred.

    It is bullshit, pure and simple.

    It is far from being bullshit. It is FACT, which you seem to be
    immune to.

    You are immune to scientific truth. Science takes first place over
    political crankery.

    DNA take first place over any 'woke' pseudoscience of yours.

    "There has been a nearly 1,000% increase in children referred to the >>>>>>> Tavistock child and adolescent gender clinic over the past six years." >>>>>>>
    That's simply because there is more awareness about being transgender >>>>>>> and increasing evidence on effectiveness of gender-affirming care, you >>>>>>> righttard.

    No, that's simply because more and more children are being
    indoctrinated with this 'woke' horseshit, you lefttard.

    No comment here either?

    Maybe it is because children are more likely to come out these days.

    Which is because they are being indoctrinated. Duh.

    Or is it because it's more acceptable to be trans these days?

    It is not acceptable. It's not even fucking possible!

    "Most children who start puberty blockers progress to cross-sex hormones
    at age 16, leaving them infertile; very few come off the path of >>>>>>> increasingly invasive medical treatments once they start."

    "There is no research into the long?term effects of these treatments on >>>>>>> children"

    Bullshit point. Not every long-term effect can be researched ethically. >>>>>>
    Long term effects NEED to be researched: how does ethics even come >>>>>> into it?


    Transphobes cry over puberty blockers yet we don't know long-term
    effects of COVID-19 vaccines.

    Puberty blockers are pointless...they still won't smooth the
    'transition' from one sex to the other.

    They can lessen gender dysphoria. Getting puberty blockers is already
    challenging enough, we could give them hormones straight but it's
    unethical to insert them in people who don't know what they're doing.
    IMHO, they should be at least 16 and mature enough to understand
    *everything* that comes with this treatment.

    This is a good read on puberty blockers:
    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075

    Now someone will say that almost 100% will go on cross-sex hormones, but >>> that's just due to *very* conservative process of determining children
    who *need* puberty blocking. They aren't given to anyone who says "I
    want them" due to obvious reasons.

    They can take all the fucking hormones they want...males will remain
    male, females will remain female. Hormones won't change their DNA.

    Changing DNA isn't the goal - trans males are already male and trans
    females like me are already female.

    Horseshit again. So called 'transbenders' are whatever sex they were
    born as. You're male and will ALWAYS remain male.

    "Patients at gender clinics are 6x more likeuly to be on the autistic >>>>>>> spectrum than the general population"

    Correlation does not equal causation, you moron.

    It doesn't need to, you cretin. It merely shows that these people are >>>>>> not quite right in the head to begin with.

    "Extreme gender non-conformity in childhood and adolescence is more >>>>>>> predictive of gay or lesbian sexual orientation"

    "Childhood gender dysphoria naturally resolves during adolescence in >>>>>>> around 80% of cases"

    Based on outdated studies that was created in dark ages of transgender >>>>>>> care. Even if it's true, adolescents with gender dysphoria should be >>>>>>> helped upon.

    Helped upon to dispel their delusions with facts and reality checks. >>>>>
    Unless they are de-desisters (hi Zinnia Jones):

    https://genderanalysis.net/2017/10/when-desisters-arent-de-desistance-in-childhood-and-adolescent-gender-dysphoria/

    Yet more 'woke' horseshit.

    You choose to be ignorant and to close yourself in right-wing echo chambers.

    You choose to be delusional and to close yourself in left wing
    'wokery'.

    You are a wingnut kook and refuse to listen to anything that isn't even
    a tiniest bit right-wing.

    You are a delusional 'woke' asshole and refuse to listen to anything
    that isn't even a tiniest bit left-wing.

    "Around 50% of children referred to the Tavistock clinic have underlying
    mental health issues"

    Again, correlation does not equal causation. It's highly probable that >>>>>>> it's gender dysphoria that underlies their mental health. Thanks for >>>>>>> contributing to that number with the "how to make trans children kill >>>>>>> themselves" handbook.

    Mentally ill and delusional people had higher suicide rates before >>>>>> 'gender appropriation' ever came along.

    Trans people are mentally ill because of assholes like you and
    discomfort over their sex characteristics.

    It's 'transbender' assholes like you who attempt 'gender
    appropriation' as a *result* of mental illness and then commit suicide >>>> when you fail and realise you're still male or female as the case may
    be.

    Bullshit, I was in a conversion therapy camp back in 70s and attempted
    suicide. Luckily I was rescued.

    Luckily? I would say unluckily. Try again, asshole!

    You know this is transphobia, right? You can be prosecuted in some
    states for sending this messages on Usenet.

    LOL! How fucking delusional ARE you? Bring 'em on, shithead. There
    is no such thing as 'transphobia' because 'transbenders' don't
    actually exist.

    Woke up, sunshine: you can no more transition from one sex to another
    than you can from one race to another.
    Sorry, you mistake gender with sex.

    Sorry, gender is exclusively a grammatical term applied to nouns and >>>>>>>> pronouns. People only have sexes.
    Then what is gender identity?

    There's no such thing. People have sexes, nouns and pronouns have >>>>>> genders.


    What about gender identity?

    No such thing exists separate from sexual identity. It's a
    'transbender' myth.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/

    Neuroplasticity. Ever heard of it? The brain adapts to the
    delusions.


    Neuroplasticity doesn't mean that you can change your gender identity.

    In fact, NOTHING can change your 'gender identity'.

    Such efforts have been done in the past without success.

    https://www.wpath.org/media/cms/Documents/SOC v7/SOC V7_English2012.pdf:

    Neuroplasticity means that the structure of the brain changes over
    time to accommodate its delusions.

    Treatment aimed at trying to change a persons gender identity and expression to become more congruent with sex assigned at birth has been attempted in the past without success (Gelder & Marks, $%)%; Greenson, $%)(), particularly in the long term (
    Cohen-Kettenis & Kuiper, $%&(; Pauly, $%)*). Such treatment is no longer considered ethical.



    I'm not pulling that out of my ass

    Someone else did before you.

    while
    there is no direct proof of it (proofs exist only within realm of >>>>>>> mathematics),

    Proofs exist beyond the realm of mathematics.

    There is evidence that conversion therapy doesn't work, but there's no >>>>> proof of that.

    There is evidence that conversion from one sex to another doesn't
    work, so who needs conversion therapy?

    there is indirect evidence that gender identity, might be,
    in fact, real.

    Only in so much as any other delusions are 'real'.
    You are ignorant of science of transgender identity.

    There is no such 'science'...it's all horseshit.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/

    See above.

    There is evidence that gender identity has biological
    roots, cannot be changed by so-called conversion therapy and that >>>>>>> transition improves quality of life and lessens dysphoria in transgender
    individuals.

    No so-called 'conversion therapy' is required because conversion is >>>>>> impossible without a complete DNA transplant.

    Thanks for admitting you cannot change someone's gender identity.

    Thanks for admitting that your immutable DNA prevents you from
    accomplishing 'gender appropriation'.

    http://transascity.org/the-transgender-brain/

    Again, a 'transbender' brain has the same DNA it was born with.

    Because people are *born* transgender. People can't be made transgender.
    You *refuse* to read anything that can be potentially damaging to your >beliefs.

    Nobody is born 'transbender' or can ever change from male to female.
    Those delusions are impregnated by social media and the like.

    Of course, not all trans people are dysphoric, but that doesn't mean >>>>>>> being trans is a choice for some people.

    Being delusional is not a choice either.

    More nonsense that fits your idiocy: http://parentsofrogdkids.com/

    The social media platforms are doing a great job spreading delusions
    among the young and vulnerable. It never used to happen before to
    anything like this extent.

    Correlation does not equal causation, you dimwit. Maybe it's the 2007
    financial crisis that caused the increase in gender clinic referrals?

    Why would a financial crisis cause increases in 'transbender'
    referrals, you idiot? The OPPOSITE is far more likely!


    I think it's just because it's more acceptable to be trans than it used
    to be and are more covered in media than ever before. You need to
    understand that before 2010, society repressed trans people *way* more
    than they do today.

    YOU need to understand that 'woke' society has been promoting and
    marketing this 'transbender' shite endlessly for the past several
    years. The reality however, remains the same: it is impossible to
    change sex.

    The author of this website needs to get this bag under their chin:
    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.explicit.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.AZVWljQpEpjDvxnxHChy-wHaL4%26pid%3DApi&f=1

    More correctly, 'transbenders' like you need to. A BIG bag.

    You are good at producing bullshit. Most of Usenet is bullshit.

    And this from a delusional 'transbender'. Oh, the irony!

    And this from the conspiracy theorist talking about FEMA camps in their >signature. Look below.

    I borrowed that shite from the real KWills.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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