• Ex-Transgenders to High Court: Affirming Transgenderism Is Dangerous

    From Barb May@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 8 21:45:10 2019
    XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.transgendered, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    WASHINGTON (ChurchMilitant.com) - People formerly labeled as transgender are telling the U.S. Supreme Court that affirming psychologically disturbed
    people in the lie of transgenderism harms them and endangers society.

    The Supreme Court must decide in October if the U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals was wrong in its 2018 ruling that forces employers to affirm
    employees in "their transgender and transitioning status" or risk violating Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

    The Sixth Circuit holds that an individual's perceived gender identity need
    not conform to the person's biological sex in the workplace.

    Nine people formerly diagnosed with gender dysphoria are informing the
    Supreme Court, however, that persons diagnosed with gender dysphoria often
    have underlying mental issues that aren't being accurately diagnosed nor
    safely treated.

    In what's called a friend of the court brief filed Aug. 23, the group warns
    the High Court that misleading a troubled person into thinking "they can
    really become a different sex" is not only "a lie" but is also "dangerous."

    Citing a 2011 study, the brief listed the following dangers encountered by "individuals who underwent sex-reassignment surgery":
    1.Psychiatric hospitalization increased three-fold
    2.Mortality rates and criminal conviction rates also increased
    3.Suicide attempts were nearly five times higher than before surgery 4.Likelihood of suicide was 19 times higher than in persons with similar psychiatric illness

    Such dangers are typically hidden from those affirmed as transgender, according to the authors of the brief.

    "People are encouraged, affirmed and assisted in 'coming out' as
    transgendered, often without one word about the dangers of that path,"
    warned the brief.

    Church Militant reached out to a notable signer of the brief, author and
    public speaker Walt Heyer, who was diagnosed with gender dysphoria for many years before reclaiming his biological sex. He launched the website Sex
    Change Regret to help those afflicted with similar mental disorders.

    Heyer cautions the Supreme Court from upholding the lower court's ruling
    that forces employers to favor transgenderism in their employees:

    :SCOTUS must learn the recklessness of applying employment discrimination
    :laws to people diagnosed with gender dysphoria. The rush by medical :practitioners to diagnose people with gender dysphoria preempts a proper :diagnosis of possible co-existing deep issues that need to be addressed such :as autogynephilia, transvestic
    fetish disorder, body dysmorphic disorder, :bipolar disorder and dissociative disorders.

    He also spoke up for employers.

    "Employers should not be forced to keep an improperly diagnosed, psychologically distressed employee on the payroll," added Heyer.

    Heyer and the other eight ex-transgenders are responding specifically to the Sixth Circuit's ruling on the case titled R.G. & G.R. Harris Funeral Homes, Inc. v. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and Aimee Stephens. This
    case began in 2013 when a Michigan-based funeral home enforced its
    professional dress code when a former male employee, Aimee Stephens, wanted
    to begin dressing as a female.

    The owner of the funeral home, Tom Rost, said in a 2016 affidavit that having
    a professional dress code was important to his customers who were grieving
    the loss of loved ones.

    "Maintaining a professional dress code that is not distracting to grieving families is an essential industry requirement that furthers their healing process," said Rost.

    In their Supreme Court brief, the group explains that telling a
    psychologically fragile person he can change his sex may cause him to
    become suicidal.

    "Lying to people hurts them. For a vulnerable person, pursuing a dream that
    is physically impossible to achieve can lead to depression, and depression
    is the leading cause of attempted suicide," read the brief.

    Other studies seemingly back up their claims. A correlation between transgenderism and suicide was established by a survey of 6,450 so-called transgenders conducted by the National Center for Transgender Equality and
    the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. Additionally, a World Health Organization report compiled from 15 countries correlated transgenderism
    with suicide.

    These studies found that 50% of youth labeled as transgender attempted
    suicide. Furthermore, it found that transgenders themselves reported higher rates of drug abuse, unemployment and homelessness.

    Heyer told Church Militant that society is largely in the dark about the dangers of misdiagnosing a person with gender dysphoria.

    :Society must become aware that gender dysphoria is an umbrella diagnosis
    :that prevents further investigation, diagnosis and treatment of deeper
    :sexual dysfunction and psychological co-existing (comorbid) disorders.
    :People with untreated psychological issues can become addicted to alcohol
    :or drugs as a way to self-medicate, which is detrimental to them and to :society.

    Not only is it dangerous for vulnerable individuals to be left without proper treatment, said Heyer, but it's also dangerous for organizations that are forced by the courts to employ such unstable people.

    "Christian organizations could be forced to employ people who self-diagnosed with gender dysphoria," said Heyer, "resulting in an unsafe and unstable work environment because these individuals have not addressed their deeper psychological, emotional and/or sexual disordered behaviors."


    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/ex-transgenders-to-supreme-court-transgenderism-linked-to-suicide

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Barb May on Tue Sep 10 13:18:49 2019
    XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.transgendered, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 9/8/19 8:45 PM, Barb May wrote:
    WASHINGTON (ChurchMilitant.com) - People formerly labeled as transgender are telling the U.S. Supreme Court that affirming psychologically disturbed people in the lie of transgenderism harms them and endangers society.

    The Supreme Court must decide in October if the U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals was wrong in its 2018 ruling that forces employers to affirm employees in "their transgender and transitioning status" or risk violating Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

    The Sixth Circuit holds that an individual's perceived gender identity need not conform to the person's biological sex in the workplace.

    Nine people formerly diagnosed with gender dysphoria are informing the Supreme Court, however, that persons diagnosed with gender dysphoria often have underlying mental issues that aren't being accurately diagnosed nor safely treated.

    In what's called a friend of the court brief filed Aug. 23, the group warns the High Court that misleading a troubled person into thinking "they can really become a different sex" is not only "a lie" but is also "dangerous."

    Citing a 2011 study, the brief listed the following dangers encountered by "individuals who underwent sex-reassignment surgery":
    1.Psychiatric hospitalization increased three-fold
    2.Mortality rates and criminal conviction rates also increased
    3.Suicide attempts were nearly five times higher than before surgery 4.Likelihood of suicide was 19 times higher than in persons with similar psychiatric illness

    Such dangers are typically hidden from those affirmed as transgender, according to the authors of the brief.

    "People are encouraged, affirmed and assisted in 'coming out' as transgendered, often without one word about the dangers of that path,"
    warned the brief.

    Church Militant reached out to a notable signer of the brief, author and public speaker Walt Heyer, who was diagnosed with gender dysphoria for many years before reclaiming his biological sex. He launched the website Sex Change Regret to help those afflicted with similar mental disorders.

    Heyer cautions the Supreme Court from upholding the lower court's ruling
    that forces employers to favor transgenderism in their employees:

    :SCOTUS must learn the recklessness of applying employment discrimination :laws to people diagnosed with gender dysphoria. The rush by medical :practitioners to diagnose people with gender dysphoria preempts a proper :diagnosis of possible co-existing deep issues that need to be addressed such :as autogynephilia, transvestic
    fetish disorder, body dysmorphic disorder, :bipolar disorder and dissociative disorders.

    He also spoke up for employers.

    "Employers should not be forced to keep an improperly diagnosed, psychologically distressed employee on the payroll," added Heyer.

    Heyer and the other eight ex-transgenders are responding specifically to the Sixth Circuit's ruling on the case titled R.G. & G.R. Harris Funeral Homes, Inc. v. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and Aimee Stephens. This
    case began in 2013 when a Michigan-based funeral home enforced its professional dress code when a former male employee, Aimee Stephens, wanted to begin dressing as a female.

    The owner of the funeral home, Tom Rost, said in a 2016 affidavit that having a professional dress code was important to his customers who were grieving the loss of loved ones.

    "Maintaining a professional dress code that is not distracting to grieving families is an essential industry requirement that furthers their healing process," said Rost.

    In their Supreme Court brief, the group explains that telling a psychologically fragile person he can change his sex may cause him to
    become suicidal.

    "Lying to people hurts them. For a vulnerable person, pursuing a dream that is physically impossible to achieve can lead to depression, and depression
    is the leading cause of attempted suicide," read the brief.

    Other studies seemingly back up their claims. A correlation between transgenderism and suicide was established by a survey of 6,450 so-called transgenders conducted by the National Center for Transgender Equality and the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. Additionally, a World Health Organization report compiled from 15 countries correlated transgenderism
    with suicide.

    These studies found that 50% of youth labeled as transgender attempted suicide. Furthermore, it found that transgenders themselves reported higher rates of drug abuse, unemployment and homelessness.

    Heyer told Church Militant that society is largely in the dark about the dangers of misdiagnosing a person with gender dysphoria.

    :Society must become aware that gender dysphoria is an umbrella diagnosis :that prevents further investigation, diagnosis and treatment of deeper :sexual dysfunction and psychological co-existing (comorbid) disorders. :People with untreated psychological issues can become addicted to alcohol :or drugs as a way to self-medicate, which is detrimental to them and to :society.

    Not only is it dangerous for vulnerable individuals to be left without proper treatment, said Heyer, but it's also dangerous for organizations that are forced by the courts to employ such unstable people.

    "Christian organizations could be forced to employ people who self-diagnosed with gender dysphoria," said Heyer, "resulting in an unsafe and unstable work environment because these individuals have not addressed their deeper psychological, emotional and/or sexual disordered behaviors."


    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/ex-transgenders-to-supreme-court-transgenderism-linked-to-suicide

    Hmm, this could be interesting.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Barb May on Tue Sep 10 12:08:09 2019
    XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.transgendered, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    In article <nvt0iR$165$1@news.albasani.net>,
    "Barb May" <barbmay@nonofyourbusinessx.tv> wrote:

    The Sixth Circuit holds that an individual's perceived gender identity need not conform to the person's biological sex in the workplace.

    Nine people formerly diagnosed with gender dysphoria are informing the Supreme Court, however, that persons diagnosed with gender dysphoria often have underlying mental issues that aren't being accurately diagnosed nor safely treated.

    Irrelevant. Stated above the question is whether an employer can discriminate not the relation between a patient and doctor.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Tue Sep 10 12:10:02 2019
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    In article <5p6dnRdvSZmUdOrAnZ2dnUU7-ImdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote:

    Hmm, this could be interesting.

    Not really. This won't change state law.

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to Barb May on Tue Sep 10 16:05:41 2019
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    On 9/8/19 8:45 PM, Barb May wrote:

    In what's called a friend of the court brief filed Aug. 23, the group
    warns
    the High Court that misleading a troubled person into thinking "they can really become a different sex" is not only "a lie" but is also
    "dangerous."

    Citing a 2011 study, the brief listed the following dangers encountered by "individuals who underwent sex-reassignment surgery":
    1.Psychiatric hospitalization increased three-fold
    2.Mortality rates and criminal conviction rates also increased
    3.Suicide attempts were nearly five times higher than before surgery 4.Likelihood of suicide was 19 times higher than in persons with similar psychiatric illness

    That's what I've been saying all along: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJheZwbDrqc

    Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dY1rqXDmRk

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  • From BeamMeUpScotty@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Tue Sep 10 16:38:11 2019
    XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.transgendered, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 9/10/19 3:08 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <nvt0iR$165$1@news.albasani.net>,
    "Barb May" <barbmay@nonofyourbusinessx.tv> wrote:

    The Sixth Circuit holds that an individual's perceived gender identity need >> not conform to the person's biological sex in the workplace.

    Nine people formerly diagnosed with gender dysphoria are informing the
    Supreme Court, however, that persons diagnosed with gender dysphoria often >> have underlying mental issues that aren't being accurately diagnosed nor
    safely treated.

    Irrelevant. Stated above the question is whether an employer can discriminate not the relation between a patient and doctor.

    Very relevant, how would you discriminate against a unicorn.... you
    can't because it's a myth, the same as the TRANS. They're telling the
    court that they're mentally ill NOT Trans or equivalent to a (real unicorn).

    It has to be real you can't discriminate against a delusion. If I were
    to have a fish tail surgically created on my legs I would NOT be able to declare that I was discriminated against at sea world when they call
    mermen a mythical creature and deny me equal treatment with the other
    people there. They could deny me entry on the basis that I was
    delusional and a possible threat to their other customers safety or that
    they didn't have the infrastructure to accommodate me.



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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Tue Sep 10 17:02:59 2019
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    On 9/10/2019 12:10 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    In article <5p6dnRdvSZmUdOrAnZ2dnUU7-ImdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    David Hartung <d_hartung@hotmail.com> wrote:

    Hmm, this could be interesting.

    Not really. This won't change state law.

    True. But to be clear, the lawsuit is over how "on the basis of sex"
    should be interpreted in the federal civil rights laws. And the brief
    also has no impact on that analysis.

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