• The "gender identity ideology" ideology

    From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 10 18:23:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    The whole existence of "gender identity ideology" is based on
    transphobic ideology.

    The existence of gender dysphoria alone and how transitioning improve
    people's lives should prove the existence of gender identity.

    The fact that the reassignment surgery and the social pressure from his
    parents didn’t succeed in making David female, suggests that gender
    identity is something that people are born with and an innate
    characteristic that cannot be learnt away.

    The fact that David Reimer realized he was after all a boy is actually
    evidence of the existence of gender identity.

    The existence of detransitioning actually proves gender dysphoria and
    gender identity is real - if it wasn't, it wouldn't matter whether you transition or not.

    Stop spreading bullshit.
    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

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  • From Janithor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 10 11:38:45 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 11:23 AM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    The whole existence of "gender identity ideology" is based on
    transphobic ideology.

    The existence of gender dysphoria alone and how transitioning improve people's lives should prove the existence of gender identity.

    The fact that the reassignment surgery and the social pressure from his parents didn’t succeed in making David female, suggests that gender identity is something that people are born with and an innate
    characteristic that cannot be learnt away.

    The fact that David Reimer realized he was after all a boy is actually evidence of the existence of gender identity.

    The existence of detransitioning actually proves gender dysphoria and
    gender identity is real - if it wasn't, it wouldn't matter whether you transition or not.

    Stop spreading bullshit.

    Hypothetical question: what if someone invented a pill you could give to
    a young child that would change their gender identity to match their
    biological sex. Now you would have 2 options: transitioning, which
    requires surgery to cosmetically alter your appearance to match your
    gender identity, or a pill, which could change your mind to match your
    actual biological sex.

    Would you still advocate for transitioning?

    --
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    speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
    assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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  • From Janithor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 10 12:35:40 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 12:20 PM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 6:38 PM, Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 11:23 AM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    The whole existence of "gender identity ideology" is based on
    transphobic ideology.

    The existence of gender dysphoria alone and how transitioning improve
    people's lives should prove the existence of gender identity.

    The fact that the reassignment surgery and the social pressure from
    his parents didn’t succeed in making David female, suggests that
    gender identity is something that people are born with and an innate
    characteristic that cannot be learnt away.

    The fact that David Reimer realized he was after all a boy is
    actually evidence of the existence of gender identity.

    The existence of detransitioning actually proves gender dysphoria and
    gender identity is real - if it wasn't, it wouldn't matter whether
    you transition or not.

    Stop spreading bullshit.

    Hypothetical question: what if someone invented a pill you could give
    to a young child that would change their gender identity to match
    their biological sex.  Now you would have 2 options: transitioning,
    which requires surgery to cosmetically alter your appearance to match
    your gender identity, or a pill, which could change your mind to match
    your actual biological sex.

    Would you still advocate for transitioning?

    Medical transition isn't required to be trans. You can just socially transition (eg. be yourself).

    OK.
    There are infinite possible gender identity variations.

    And oh yeah, conversion therapy never worked and there is no pill. But
    if it was possible, I would give a pill to a child, but only if the
    child was happier as a cis person rather than a trans one. That's an
    another question to answer.

    Thanks for being respectful, unlike on Reddit's /r/detrans where you are
    not allowed to express yourself under the risk of getting banned.

    Respect on the internet, oh my you're an optimist, lol. It seems like
    it would be a difficult life, if your physical body doesn't match how
    you feel. Thank you for giving an honest answer. I really have no dog
    in this hunt, other than trans people are human beings like anyone else.
    Before intersectionality we had something called the Golden Rule, that
    seems to work pretty well if people actually use it.

    --
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
    speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
    assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to Janithor on Fri Sep 10 19:20:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/10/21 6:38 PM, Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 11:23 AM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    The whole existence of "gender identity ideology" is based on
    transphobic ideology.

    The existence of gender dysphoria alone and how transitioning improve
    people's lives should prove the existence of gender identity.

    The fact that the reassignment surgery and the social pressure from
    his parents didn’t succeed in making David female, suggests that
    gender identity is something that people are born with and an innate
    characteristic that cannot be learnt away.

    The fact that David Reimer realized he was after all a boy is actually
    evidence of the existence of gender identity.

    The existence of detransitioning actually proves gender dysphoria and
    gender identity is real - if it wasn't, it wouldn't matter whether you
    transition or not.

    Stop spreading bullshit.

    Hypothetical question: what if someone invented a pill you could give to
    a young child that would change their gender identity to match their biological sex.  Now you would have 2 options: transitioning, which
    requires surgery to cosmetically alter your appearance to match your
    gender identity, or a pill, which could change your mind to match your
    actual biological sex.

    Would you still advocate for transitioning?

    Medical transition isn't required to be trans. You can just socially
    transition (eg. be yourself).

    There are infinite possible gender identity variations.

    And oh yeah, conversion therapy never worked and there is no pill. But
    if it was possible, I would give a pill to a child, but only if the
    child was happier as a cis person rather than a trans one. That's an
    another question to answer.

    Thanks for being respectful, unlike on Reddit's /r/detrans where you are
    not allowed to express yourself under the risk of getting banned.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Janithor@21:1/5 to Checkmate on Fri Sep 10 12:58:19 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 12:52 PM, Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate.

    On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 11:38:45 -0700, Janithor had the audacity to say the following:



    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 11:23 AM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    The whole existence of "gender identity ideology" is based on
    transphobic ideology.

    The existence of gender dysphoria alone and how transitioning improve
    people's lives should prove the existence of gender identity.

    The fact that the reassignment surgery and the social pressure from his
    parents didn?t succeed in making David female, suggests that gender
    identity is something that people are born with and an innate
    characteristic that cannot be learnt away.

    The fact that David Reimer realized he was after all a boy is actually
    evidence of the existence of gender identity.

    The existence of detransitioning actually proves gender dysphoria and
    gender identity is real - if it wasn't, it wouldn't matter whether you
    transition or not.

    Stop spreading bullshit.

    Hypothetical question: what if someone invented a pill you could give to
    a young child that would change their gender identity to match their
    biological sex. Now you would have 2 options: transitioning, which
    requires surgery to cosmetically alter your appearance to match your
    gender identity, or a pill, which could change your mind to match your
    actual biological sex.

    Would you still advocate for transitioning?

    How much would the pill cost?

    $500,000 in the US, 50 cents in Mexico.

    --
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
    speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
    assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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  • From Checkmate@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 10 12:52:37 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate.

    On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 11:38:45 -0700, Janithor had the audacity to say the following:



    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 11:23 AM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    The whole existence of "gender identity ideology" is based on
    transphobic ideology.

    The existence of gender dysphoria alone and how transitioning improve people's lives should prove the existence of gender identity.

    The fact that the reassignment surgery and the social pressure from his parents didn?t succeed in making David female, suggests that gender identity is something that people are born with and an innate characteristic that cannot be learnt away.

    The fact that David Reimer realized he was after all a boy is actually evidence of the existence of gender identity.

    The existence of detransitioning actually proves gender dysphoria and gender identity is real - if it wasn't, it wouldn't matter whether you transition or not.

    Stop spreading bullshit.

    Hypothetical question: what if someone invented a pill you could give to
    a young child that would change their gender identity to match their biological sex. Now you would have 2 options: transitioning, which
    requires surgery to cosmetically alter your appearance to match your
    gender identity, or a pill, which could change your mind to match your
    actual biological sex.

    Would you still advocate for transitioning?

    How much would the pill cost?

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  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to Janithor on Fri Sep 10 20:12:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/10/21 7:35 PM, Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 12:20 PM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 6:38 PM, Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 11:23 AM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    The whole existence of "gender identity ideology" is based on
    transphobic ideology.

    The existence of gender dysphoria alone and how transitioning
    improve people's lives should prove the existence of gender identity.

    The fact that the reassignment surgery and the social pressure from
    his parents didn’t succeed in making David female, suggests that
    gender identity is something that people are born with and an innate
    characteristic that cannot be learnt away.

    The fact that David Reimer realized he was after all a boy is
    actually evidence of the existence of gender identity.

    The existence of detransitioning actually proves gender dysphoria
    and gender identity is real - if it wasn't, it wouldn't matter
    whether you transition or not.

    Stop spreading bullshit.

    Hypothetical question: what if someone invented a pill you could give
    to a young child that would change their gender identity to match
    their biological sex.  Now you would have 2 options: transitioning,
    which requires surgery to cosmetically alter your appearance to match
    your gender identity, or a pill, which could change your mind to
    match your actual biological sex.

    Would you still advocate for transitioning?

    Medical transition isn't required to be trans. You can just socially
    transition (eg. be yourself).

    OK.
    There are infinite possible gender identity variations.

    And oh yeah, conversion therapy never worked and there is no pill. But
    if it was possible, I would give a pill to a child, but only if the
    child was happier as a cis person rather than a trans one. That's an
    another question to answer.

    Thanks for being respectful, unlike on Reddit's /r/detrans where you
    are not allowed to express yourself under the risk of getting banned.

    Respect on the internet, oh my you're an optimist, lol.  It seems like
    it would be a difficult life, if your physical body doesn't match how
    you feel.  Thank you for giving an honest answer.  I really have no dog
    in this hunt, other than trans people are human beings like anyone else.
     Before intersectionality we had something called the Golden Rule, that seems to work pretty well if people actually use it.

    Well, gender is a spectrum, you might like your body but just identify
    as a woman or get dysphoric over your body while still having mostly characteristics associated with your birth gender, pretty much anything
    is possible.

    You can be even gender non-conforming, no matter whether you are cis or
    trans.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to Janithor on Fri Sep 10 20:14:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/10/21 7:58 PM, Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 12:52 PM, Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
    Checkmate.

    On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 11:38:45 -0700, Janithor had the audacity to say the
    following:



    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 11:23 AM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    The whole existence of "gender identity ideology" is based on
    transphobic ideology.

    The existence of gender dysphoria alone and how transitioning improve
    people's lives should prove the existence of gender identity.

    The fact that the reassignment surgery and the social pressure from his >>>> parents didn?t succeed in making David female, suggests that gender
    identity is something that people are born with and an innate
    characteristic that cannot be learnt away.

    The fact that David Reimer realized he was after all a boy is actually >>>> evidence of the existence of gender identity.

    The existence of detransitioning actually proves gender dysphoria and
    gender identity is real - if it wasn't, it wouldn't matter whether you >>>> transition or not.

    Stop spreading bullshit.

    Hypothetical question: what if someone invented a pill you could give to >>> a young child that would change their gender identity to match their
    biological sex. Now you would have 2 options: transitioning, which
    requires surgery to cosmetically alter your appearance to match your
    gender identity, or a pill, which could change your mind to match your
    actual biological sex.

    Would you still advocate for transitioning?

    How much would the pill cost?

    $500,000 in the US, 50 cents in Mexico.

    Well Mexico is a dangerous place for trans people like me. There is
    infinitely more pressure to be cis, rather than to be trans, which I
    have never ever experienced.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Fri Sep 10 20:52:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/10/21 8:25 PM, Skeeter wrote:
    On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 20:14:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 9/10/21 7:58 PM, Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 12:52 PM, Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by >>>> Checkmate.

    On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 11:38:45 -0700, Janithor had the audacity to say the >>>> following:



    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 11:23 AM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    The whole existence of "gender identity ideology" is based on
    transphobic ideology.

    The existence of gender dysphoria alone and how transitioning improve >>>>>> people's lives should prove the existence of gender identity.

    The fact that the reassignment surgery and the social pressure from his >>>>>> parents didn?t succeed in making David female, suggests that gender >>>>>> identity is something that people are born with and an innate
    characteristic that cannot be learnt away.

    The fact that David Reimer realized he was after all a boy is actually >>>>>> evidence of the existence of gender identity.

    The existence of detransitioning actually proves gender dysphoria and >>>>>> gender identity is real - if it wasn't, it wouldn't matter whether you >>>>>> transition or not.

    Stop spreading bullshit.

    Hypothetical question: what if someone invented a pill you could give to >>>>> a young child that would change their gender identity to match their >>>>> biological sex.  Now you would have 2 options: transitioning, which >>>>> requires surgery to cosmetically alter your appearance to match your >>>>> gender identity, or a pill, which could change your mind to match your >>>>> actual biological sex.

    Would you still advocate for transitioning?

    How much would the pill cost?

    $500,000 in the US, 50 cents in Mexico.

    Well Mexico is a dangerous place for trans people like me. There is
    infinitely more pressure to be cis, rather than to be trans, which I
    have never ever experienced.

    Never? If that's true then what are you bitching about?

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all. Yes, trans people
    often go in groups of each other, but then it is normal for people to
    seek out other people like them.

    If you feel that you would pretend to be trans only among them, then
    don't transition. Live your life for yourself. You probably won't have
    an another chance ever again.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to science@is.truth on Fri Sep 10 14:25:54 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 20:14:00 +0000, "Scientific (she/her)"
    <science@is.truth> wrote:

    On 9/10/21 7:58 PM, Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 12:52 PM, Checkmate wrote:
    Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
    Checkmate.

    On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 11:38:45 -0700, Janithor had the audacity to say the >>> following:



    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 11:23 AM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    The whole existence of "gender identity ideology" is based on
    transphobic ideology.

    The existence of gender dysphoria alone and how transitioning improve >>>>> people's lives should prove the existence of gender identity.

    The fact that the reassignment surgery and the social pressure from his >>>>> parents didn?t succeed in making David female, suggests that gender
    identity is something that people are born with and an innate
    characteristic that cannot be learnt away.

    The fact that David Reimer realized he was after all a boy is actually >>>>> evidence of the existence of gender identity.

    The existence of detransitioning actually proves gender dysphoria and >>>>> gender identity is real - if it wasn't, it wouldn't matter whether you >>>>> transition or not.

    Stop spreading bullshit.

    Hypothetical question: what if someone invented a pill you could give to >>>> a young child that would change their gender identity to match their
    biological sex. Now you would have 2 options: transitioning, which
    requires surgery to cosmetically alter your appearance to match your
    gender identity, or a pill, which could change your mind to match your >>>> actual biological sex.

    Would you still advocate for transitioning?

    How much would the pill cost?

    $500,000 in the US, 50 cents in Mexico.

    Well Mexico is a dangerous place for trans people like me. There is >infinitely more pressure to be cis, rather than to be trans, which I
    have never ever experienced.

    Never? If that's true then what are you bitching about?

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  • From ----------- A t h e i s t ---------@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 10 16:22:14 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain). Pure goofballs.


    --
    There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
    A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
    Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
    sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

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  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to ----------- A t h e i s t --------- on Sat Sep 11 14:22:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being transgender is
    not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 12 11:03:21 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-10 4:12 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 7:35 PM, Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 12:20 PM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 6:38 PM, Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 11:23 AM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    The whole existence of "gender identity ideology" is based on
    transphobic ideology.

    The existence of gender dysphoria alone and how transitioning
    improve people's lives should prove the existence of gender identity. >>>>>
    The fact that the reassignment surgery and the social pressure from
    his parents didn’t succeed in making David female, suggests that
    gender identity is something that people are born with and an
    innate characteristic that cannot be learnt away.

    The fact that David Reimer realized he was after all a boy is
    actually evidence of the existence of gender identity.

    The existence of detransitioning actually proves gender dysphoria
    and gender identity is real - if it wasn't, it wouldn't matter
    whether you transition or not.

    Stop spreading bullshit.

    Hypothetical question: what if someone invented a pill you could
    give to a young child that would change their gender identity to
    match their biological sex.  Now you would have 2 options:
    transitioning, which requires surgery to cosmetically alter your
    appearance to match your gender identity, or a pill, which could
    change your mind to match your actual biological sex.

    Would you still advocate for transitioning?

    Medical transition isn't required to be trans. You can just socially
    transition (eg. be yourself).

    OK.
    There are infinite possible gender identity variations.

    And oh yeah, conversion therapy never worked and there is no pill.
    But if it was possible, I would give a pill to a child, but only if
    the child was happier as a cis person rather than a trans one. That's
    an another question to answer.

    Thanks for being respectful, unlike on Reddit's /r/detrans where you
    are not allowed to express yourself under the risk of getting banned.

    Respect on the internet, oh my you're an optimist, lol.  It seems like
    it would be a difficult life, if your physical body doesn't match how
    you feel.  Thank you for giving an honest answer.  I really have no
    dog in this hunt, other than trans people are human beings like anyone
    else.   Before intersectionality we had something called the Golden
    Rule, that seems to work pretty well if people actually use it.

    Well, gender is a spectrum, you might like your body but just identify
    as a woman or get dysphoric over your body while still having mostly characteristics associated with your birth gender, pretty much anything
    is possible.

    You can be even gender non-conforming, no matter whether you are cis or trans.


    That is usually called a mental disability just as color blindness is
    called a physical disability.

    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 12 11:13:40 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the trans-sexuals
    issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being transgender is
    not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything wrong about
    themselves either, but they do need to pay extra attention to the
    traffic lights. For people with mental disability, the same kind of
    extra care is also needed.




    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From ----------- A t h e i s t ---------@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 13 01:09:02 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the trans-sexuals
    issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain). Pure goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being transgender is
    not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you say
    you are today.

    It is a lie. By goofballs who pretend and put up a false front to us.


    --
    There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
    A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
    Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
    sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to ----------- A t h e i s t --------- on Mon Sep 13 16:54:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/13/21 8:09 AM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the trans-sexuals
    issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being transgender is
    not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental illness, however,
    gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you say
    you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false front to us.


    You are an atheist who knows the Bible is bullshit yet you refuse to
    research transgender science.

    This is a good 101 on being transgender:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/transeducate/

    This is WPATH (World Professional Association's of Transgender Health) Standards of Care document:

    https://www.wpath.org/media/cms/Documents/SOC%20v7/SOC%20V7_English2012.pdf?_t=1613669341

    This document is excellent primer on evidence-based transgender care.

    Have you seen that mine "There is no verifiable evidence that gender
    dysphoria can be treated in other ways than transitioning" is similiar
    to your "There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s)"?

    If you believe that gender dysphoria can be treated without transition,
    then go ahead and share real evidence here. You will be the first person
    that has proven gender dysphoria can be treated without transition.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to aaa on Mon Sep 13 16:31:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the trans-sexuals
    issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being transgender is
    not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental illness, however,
    gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything wrong about themselves either, but they do need to pay extra attention to the
    traffic lights. For people with mental disability, the same kind of
    extra care is also needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic does crap with me.

    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes this BS gets
    in my head, but the more you know and skeptical you are, the lower risk
    you will be brainwashed by a real ideology of transphobia.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to Michael Christ on Mon Sep 13 15:20:20 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the trans-sexuals
    issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure goofballs. >>>>

    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being transgender
    is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental illness, however,
    gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you say
    you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false front to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to ----------- A t h e i s t --------- on Tue Sep 14 08:16:46 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the trans-sexuals
    issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being transgender is
    not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental illness, however,
    gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you say
    you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false front to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    --
    Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

    "Compromise will condemn you".

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life".

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything".

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 14 09:31:07 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 14/09/2021 9:25 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote: >>>>>>
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure
    goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental
    illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all participate >>>>> in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you say
    you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false front to us. >>>>
    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now.






    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    Of course not, is God a failure so as to make you a success??





    Michael Christ

    --
    Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

    "Compromise will condemn you".

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life".

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything".

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 14 09:17:01 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure goofballs. >>>>>

    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being transgender
    is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental illness, however,
    gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you say
    you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false front to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now.






    Michael Christ

    --
    Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

    "Compromise will condemn you".

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life".

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything".

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to Michael Christ on Mon Sep 13 16:25:36 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure goofballs. >>>>>>

    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being transgender
    is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental illness,
    however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all participate >>>> in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you say
    you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false front to us. >>>
    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now.






    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 14 10:38:49 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the trans-sexuals
    issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure goofballs. >>>>

    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being transgender
    is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental illness, however,
    gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything wrong about
    themselves either, but they do need to pay extra attention to the
    traffic lights. For people with mental disability, the same kind of
    extra care is also needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic does crap with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand you from your
    point of view, but you need to understand yourself from their point of
    view also. Mental disability is not a human right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes this BS gets
    in my head, but the more you know and skeptical you are, the lower risk
    you will be brainwashed by a real ideology of transphobia.

    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue political.
    It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your problem, but you cannot
    ignore your own problem.




    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Sep 14 15:39:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure goofballs. >>>>>

    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being transgender
    is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental illness, however,
    gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything wrong about
    themselves either, but they do need to pay extra attention to the
    traffic lights. For people with mental disability, the same kind of
    extra care is also needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic does crap with
    me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand you from your
    point of view, but you need to understand yourself from their point of
    view also. Mental disability is not a human right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes this BS
    gets in my head, but the more you know and skeptical you are, the
    lower risk you will be brainwashed by a real ideology of transphobia.

    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue political.
    It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your problem, but you cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender. Being
    trans is about diversity, not pathology. Trans people have existed
    since forever and in fact they were infinitely more accepted in
    antiquity. They were seen as gods. It's only recently when modern
    society and science starts to catch up and discover more and more
    evidence of the existence of various gender identities every day.

    From WPATH's Standards of Care on page 10:

    Being Transsexual, Transgender, or Gender-Nonconforming Is a Matter of Diversity, Not Pathology

    WPATH released a statement in May "#$# urging the de-psychopathologization of gender nonconformity worldwide (WPATH Board of Directors, "#$#). This statement noted that “the expression of gender characteristics, including
    identities, that are not stereotypically associated with one’s assigned sex at birth is a common and culturally diverse human phenomenon [that] should not be judged as inherently pathological or negative.”

    Unfortunately, there is stigma attached to gender nonconformity in many societies around the world. Such stigma can lead to prejudice and discrimination, resulting in “minority stress” (I. H. Meyer, "##'). Minority stress is unique (
    additive to general stressors experienced by all people), socially based, and chronic, and may make transsexual, transgender, and gender-nonconforming individuals more vulnerable to developing mental health concerns such as anxiety and depression (
    Institute of Medicine, "#$$). In addition to prejudice and discrimination in society at large, stigma can contribute to abuse and neglect in one’s relationships with peers and family members, which in turn can lead to psychological distress. However,
    these symptoms are socially induced and are not inherent to being transsexual, transgender, or gender-nonconforming.

    So it goes that if I'm feeling like shit, it is because I'm treated like
    trash. I absolutely agree with this paragraph.

    I was crossdressing back in 1970s as a teenager, but didn't realize I am
    trans until recently and I slowly or surely now lead myself to live an authentic life.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 14 13:11:05 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-14 11:39 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure goofballs. >>>>>>

    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being transgender
    is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental illness,
    however, gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything wrong about
    themselves either, but they do need to pay extra attention to the
    traffic lights. For people with mental disability, the same kind of
    extra care is also needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic does crap
    with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand you from
    your point of view, but you need to understand yourself from their
    point of view also. Mental disability is not a human right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes this BS
    gets in my head, but the more you know and skeptical you are, the
    lower risk you will be brainwashed by a real ideology of transphobia.

    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue political.
    It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your problem, but you
    cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender. Being
    trans is about diversity, not pathology.

    That is a political statement.

      Trans people have existed
    since forever and in fact they were infinitely more accepted in
    antiquity. They were seen as gods. It's only recently when modern
    society and science starts to catch up and discover more and more
    evidence of the existence of various gender identities every day.

    From WPATH's Standards of Care on page 10:

    Being Transsexual, Transgender, or Gender-Nonconforming Is a Matter of
    Diversity, Not Pathology

    WPATH  released  a  statement  in  May "#$#  urging  the
    de-psychopathologization  of  gender nonconformity  worldwide  (WPATH
    Board  of  Directors, "#$#).  This  statement  noted  that  “the
    expression  of  gender  characteristics,  including  identities,
    that  are  not  stereotypically  associated with  one’s  assigned
    sex  at  birth  is  a  common  and  culturally  diverse  human
    phenomenon  [that] should not be judged as inherently pathological or
    negative.”

    Unfortunately,  there  is  stigma  attached  to  gender
    nonconformity  in  many  societies  around  the world. Such stigma can >> lead to prejudice and discrimination, resulting in “minority stress”
    (I. H. Meyer, "##'). Minority stress is unique (additive to general
    stressors experienced by all people), socially based, and chronic, and
    may make transsexual, transgender, and gender-nonconforming
    individuals more vulnerable to developing mental health concerns such
    as anxiety and depression (Institute of Medicine, "#$$). In addition
    to prejudice and discrimination in society at large, stigma can
    contribute to abuse and neglect in one’s relationships with peers and
    family members, which in turn can lead to psychological distress.
    However, these symptoms are socially induced and are not inherent to
    being transsexual, transgender, or gender-nonconforming.

    So it goes that if I'm feeling like shit, it is because I'm treated like trash. I absolutely agree with this paragraph.

    I was crossdressing back in 1970s as a teenager, but didn't realize I am trans until recently and I slowly or surely now lead myself to live an authentic life.



    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to aaa on Wed Sep 15 13:16:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/12/21 3:03 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-10 4:12 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 7:35 PM, Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 12:20 PM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 6:38 PM, Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 9/10/2021 11:23 AM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    The whole existence of "gender identity ideology" is based on
    transphobic ideology.

    The existence of gender dysphoria alone and how transitioning
    improve people's lives should prove the existence of gender identity. >>>>>>
    The fact that the reassignment surgery and the social pressure
    from his parents didn’t succeed in making David female, suggests >>>>>> that gender identity is something that people are born with and an >>>>>> innate characteristic that cannot be learnt away.

    The fact that David Reimer realized he was after all a boy is
    actually evidence of the existence of gender identity.

    The existence of detransitioning actually proves gender dysphoria
    and gender identity is real - if it wasn't, it wouldn't matter
    whether you transition or not.

    Stop spreading bullshit.

    Hypothetical question: what if someone invented a pill you could
    give to a young child that would change their gender identity to
    match their biological sex.  Now you would have 2 options:
    transitioning, which requires surgery to cosmetically alter your
    appearance to match your gender identity, or a pill, which could
    change your mind to match your actual biological sex.

    Would you still advocate for transitioning?

    Medical transition isn't required to be trans. You can just socially
    transition (eg. be yourself).

    OK.
    There are infinite possible gender identity variations.

    And oh yeah, conversion therapy never worked and there is no pill.
    But if it was possible, I would give a pill to a child, but only if
    the child was happier as a cis person rather than a trans one.
    That's an another question to answer.

    Thanks for being respectful, unlike on Reddit's /r/detrans where you
    are not allowed to express yourself under the risk of getting banned.

    Respect on the internet, oh my you're an optimist, lol.  It seems
    like it would be a difficult life, if your physical body doesn't
    match how you feel.  Thank you for giving an honest answer.  I really
    have no dog in this hunt, other than trans people are human beings
    like anyone else.   Before intersectionality we had something called
    the Golden Rule, that seems to work pretty well if people actually
    use it.

    Well, gender is a spectrum, you might like your body but just identify
    as a woman or get dysphoric over your body while still having mostly
    characteristics associated with your birth gender, pretty much
    anything is possible.

    You can be even gender non-conforming, no matter whether you are cis
    or trans.


    That is usually called a mental disability just as color blindness is
    called a physical disability.

    From WPATH's Standards of Care on page 10:

    Being Transsexual, Transgender, or Gender-Nonconforming Is a Matter
    of Diversity, Not Pathology

    WPATH released a statement in May "#$# urging the
    de-psychopathologization of gender nonconformity worldwide (WPATH
    Board of Directors, "#$#). This statement noted that “the
    expression of gender characteristics, including identities, that
    are not stereotypically associated with one’s assigned sex at
    birth is a common and culturally diverse human phenomenon
    [that] should not be judged as inherently pathological or negative.”

    Unfortunately, there is stigma attached to gender
    nonconformity in many societies around the world. Such stigma can
    lead to prejudice and discrimination, resulting in “minority stress” (I.
    H. Meyer, "##'). Minority stress is unique (additive to general
    stressors experienced by all people), socially based, and chronic, and
    may make transsexual, transgender, and gender-nonconforming individuals
    more vulnerable to developing mental health concerns such as anxiety and depression (Institute of Medicine, "#$$). In addition to prejudice and discrimination in society at large, stigma can contribute to abuse and
    neglect in one’s relationships with peers and family members, which in
    turn can lead to psychological distress. However, these symptoms are
    socially induced and are not inherent to being transsexual, transgender,
    or gender-nonconforming.

    F*ck your bullsh*t.


    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to aaa on Wed Sep 15 13:15:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/14/21 5:11 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-14 11:39 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote: >>>>>>> Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure
    goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental
    illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything wrong
    about themselves either, but they do need to pay extra attention to
    the traffic lights. For people with mental disability, the same
    kind of extra care is also needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic does crap
    with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand you from
    your point of view, but you need to understand yourself from their
    point of view also. Mental disability is not a human right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes this BS
    gets in my head, but the more you know and skeptical you are, the
    lower risk you will be brainwashed by a real ideology of transphobia.

    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue political.
    It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your problem, but you
    cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender. Being
    trans is about diversity, not pathology.

    That is a political statement.
    It's obvious you haven't read my whole post. How it can be political
    when WPATH itself says that being transgender is a matter of diversity,
    not pathology?

    BTW, isn't saying that it is a pathology actually a political statement
    in the age of overwhelming evidence for gender-affirming treatment for
    trans people?

      Trans people have existed
    since forever and in fact they were infinitely more accepted in
    antiquity. They were seen as gods. It's only recently when modern
    society and science starts to catch up and discover more and more
    evidence of the existence of various gender identities every day.

     From WPATH's Standards of Care on page 10:

    Being Transsexual, Transgender, or Gender-Nonconforming Is a Matter
    of Diversity, Not Pathology

    WPATH  released  a  statement  in  May "#$#  urging  the
    de-psychopathologization  of  gender nonconformity  worldwide  (WPATH >>> Board  of  Directors, "#$#).  This  statement  noted  that  “the >>> expression  of  gender  characteristics,  including  identities,
    that  are  not  stereotypically  associated with  one’s  assigned >>> sex  at  birth  is  a  common  and  culturally  diverse  human
    phenomenon  [that] should not be judged as inherently pathological or
    negative.”

    Unfortunately,  there  is  stigma  attached  to  gender
    nonconformity  in  many  societies  around  the world. Such stigma
    can lead to prejudice and discrimination, resulting in “minority
    stress” (I. H. Meyer, "##'). Minority stress is unique (additive to
    general stressors experienced by all people), socially based, and
    chronic, and may make transsexual, transgender, and
    gender-nonconforming individuals more vulnerable to developing mental
    health concerns such as anxiety and depression (Institute of
    Medicine, "#$$). In addition to prejudice and discrimination in
    society at large, stigma can contribute to abuse and neglect in one’s
    relationships with peers and family members, which in turn can lead
    to psychological distress. However, these symptoms are socially
    induced and are not inherent to being transsexual, transgender, or
    gender-nonconforming.

    So it goes that if I'm feeling like shit, it is because I'm treated
    like trash. I absolutely agree with this paragraph.

    I was crossdressing back in 1970s as a teenager, but didn't realize I
    am trans until recently and I slowly or surely now lead myself to live
    an authentic life.





    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 15 11:25:13 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-15 9:15 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 5:11 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-14 11:39 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote: >>>>>>>> Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure
    goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental
    illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything wrong
    about themselves either, but they do need to pay extra attention
    to the traffic lights. For people with mental disability, the same >>>>>> kind of extra care is also needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic does crap
    with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand you from
    your point of view, but you need to understand yourself from their
    point of view also. Mental disability is not a human right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes this BS
    gets in my head, but the more you know and skeptical you are, the
    lower risk you will be brainwashed by a real ideology of transphobia. >>>>
    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue
    political. It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your problem,
    but you cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender. Being
    trans is about diversity, not pathology.

    That is a political statement.
    It's obvious you haven't read my whole post. How it can be political
    when WPATH itself says that being transgender is a matter of diversity,
    not pathology?

    Because it is a political statement by itself.


    BTW, isn't saying that it is a pathology actually a political statement
    in the age of overwhelming evidence for gender-affirming treatment for
    trans people?

       Trans people have existed
    since forever and in fact they were infinitely more accepted in
    antiquity. They were seen as gods. It's only recently when modern
    society and science starts to catch up and discover more and more
    evidence of the existence of various gender identities every day.

     From WPATH's Standards of Care on page 10:

    Being Transsexual, Transgender, or Gender-Nonconforming Is a Matter
    of Diversity, Not Pathology

    WPATH  released  a  statement  in  May "#$#  urging  the
    de-psychopathologization  of  gender nonconformity  worldwide
    (WPATH Board  of  Directors, "#$#).  This  statement  noted  that >>>> “the expression  of  gender  characteristics,  including
    identities, that  are  not  stereotypically  associated with  one’s >>>> assigned sex  at  birth  is  a  common  and  culturally  diverse >>>> human phenomenon  [that] should not be judged as inherently
    pathological or negative.”

    Unfortunately,  there  is  stigma  attached  to  gender
    nonconformity  in  many  societies  around  the world. Such stigma >>>> can lead to prejudice and discrimination, resulting in “minority
    stress” (I. H. Meyer, "##'). Minority stress is unique (additive to
    general stressors experienced by all people), socially based, and
    chronic, and may make transsexual, transgender, and
    gender-nonconforming individuals more vulnerable to developing
    mental health concerns such as anxiety and depression (Institute of
    Medicine, "#$$). In addition to prejudice and discrimination in
    society at large, stigma can contribute to abuse and neglect in
    one’s relationships with peers and family members, which in turn can >>>> lead to psychological distress. However, these symptoms are socially
    induced and are not inherent to being transsexual, transgender, or
    gender-nonconforming.

    So it goes that if I'm feeling like shit, it is because I'm treated
    like trash. I absolutely agree with this paragraph.

    I was crossdressing back in 1970s as a teenager, but didn't realize I
    am trans until recently and I slowly or surely now lead myself to
    live an authentic life.







    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to aaa on Thu Sep 16 21:07:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/15/21 3:25 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-15 9:15 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 5:11 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-14 11:39 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote: >>>>>>>>> Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure
    goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental >>>>>>>> illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything wrong
    about themselves either, but they do need to pay extra attention >>>>>>> to the traffic lights. For people with mental disability, the
    same kind of extra care is also needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic does crap
    with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand you from
    your point of view, but you need to understand yourself from their
    point of view also. Mental disability is not a human right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes this BS >>>>>> gets in my head, but the more you know and skeptical you are, the
    lower risk you will be brainwashed by a real ideology of transphobia. >>>>>
    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue
    political. It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your problem,
    but you cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender. Being
    trans is about diversity, not pathology.

    That is a political statement.
    It's obvious you haven't read my whole post. How it can be political
    when WPATH itself says that being transgender is a matter of
    diversity, not pathology?

    Because it is a political statement by itself.


    Even though there is overwhelming evidence to support that it is an
    empirical statement, right?


    BTW, isn't saying that it is a pathology actually a political
    statement in the age of overwhelming evidence for gender-affirming
    treatment for trans people?

       Trans people have existed
    since forever and in fact they were infinitely more accepted in
    antiquity. They were seen as gods. It's only recently when modern
    society and science starts to catch up and discover more and more
    evidence of the existence of various gender identities every day.

     From WPATH's Standards of Care on page 10:

    Being Transsexual, Transgender, or Gender-Nonconforming Is a Matter
    of Diversity, Not Pathology

    WPATH  released  a  statement  in  May "#$#  urging  the
    de-psychopathologization  of  gender nonconformity  worldwide
    (WPATH Board  of  Directors, "#$#).  This  statement  noted  that >>>>> “the expression  of  gender  characteristics,  including
    identities, that  are  not  stereotypically  associated with  one’s
    assigned sex  at  birth  is  a  common  and  culturally  diverse >>>>> human phenomenon  [that] should not be judged as inherently
    pathological or negative.”

    Unfortunately,  there  is  stigma  attached  to  gender
    nonconformity  in  many  societies  around  the world. Such stigma >>>>> can lead to prejudice and discrimination, resulting in “minority
    stress” (I. H. Meyer, "##'). Minority stress is unique (additive to >>>>> general stressors experienced by all people), socially based, and
    chronic, and may make transsexual, transgender, and
    gender-nonconforming individuals more vulnerable to developing
    mental health concerns such as anxiety and depression (Institute of
    Medicine, "#$$). In addition to prejudice and discrimination in
    society at large, stigma can contribute to abuse and neglect in
    one’s relationships with peers and family members, which in turn
    can lead to psychological distress. However, these symptoms are
    socially induced and are not inherent to being transsexual,
    transgender, or gender-nonconforming.

    So it goes that if I'm feeling like shit, it is because I'm treated
    like trash. I absolutely agree with this paragraph.

    I was crossdressing back in 1970s as a teenager, but didn't realize
    I am trans until recently and I slowly or surely now lead myself to
    live an authentic life.









    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to Michael Christ on Thu Sep 16 21:12:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/13/21 11:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 9:25 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote: >>>>>> Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote: >>>>>>>
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure
    goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental
    illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all
    participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you say >>>>>> you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false front to >>>>>> us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now.






    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    Of course not, is God a failure so as to make you a success??





    Michael Christ

    The truth about your ghod is that there is no empirical evidence for the existence for one. So far there is as much evidence for one as for
    treating gender dysphoria without gender-affirming psychotherapy and transitioning. Read my signature if you don't believe me.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 16 14:35:12 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-16 2:12 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/13/21 11:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 9:25 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote: >>>>>>> Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote: >>>>>>>>
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure
    goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental >>>>>>>> illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all
    participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you say >>>>>>> you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false front >>>>>>> to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now.






    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    Of course not, is God a failure so as to make you a success??





    Michael Christ

    The truth about your ghod is that there is no empirical evidence for the existence for one. So far there is as much evidence for one as for
    treating gender dysphoria without gender-affirming psychotherapy and transitioning. Read my signature if you don't believe me.

    there's no proof you exist either

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 17 09:48:18 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-16 5:07 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/15/21 3:25 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-15 9:15 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 5:11 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-14 11:39 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure >>>>>>>>>> goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental >>>>>>>>> illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything wrong >>>>>>>> about themselves either, but they do need to pay extra attention >>>>>>>> to the traffic lights. For people with mental disability, the
    same kind of extra care is also needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic does crap >>>>>>> with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand you from >>>>>> your point of view, but you need to understand yourself from their >>>>>> point of view also. Mental disability is not a human right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes this
    BS gets in my head, but the more you know and skeptical you are, >>>>>>> the lower risk you will be brainwashed by a real ideology of
    transphobia.

    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue
    political. It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your
    problem, but you cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender. Being
    trans is about diversity, not pathology.

    That is a political statement.
    It's obvious you haven't read my whole post. How it can be political
    when WPATH itself says that being transgender is a matter of
    diversity, not pathology?

    Because it is a political statement by itself.


    Even though there is overwhelming evidence to support that it is an
    empirical statement, right?

    The word "diversity" is obviously political.

    Sexuality is not a matter of choice. There is no such thing called
    "diversity". Being sick either physically or mentally has nothing to do
    with diversity.


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 17 16:23:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/16/21 9:35 PM, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-16 2:12 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/13/21 11:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 9:25 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote: >>>>>>>> Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure >>>>>>>>>> goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental >>>>>>>>> illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all
    participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you say >>>>>>>> you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false front >>>>>>>> to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now.






    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    Of course not, is God a failure so as to make you a success??





    Michael Christ

    The truth about your ghod is that there is no empirical evidence for
    the existence for one. So far there is as much evidence for one as for
    treating gender dysphoria without gender-affirming psychotherapy and
    transitioning. Read my signature if you don't believe me.

    there's no proof you exist either
    Neither there is evidence you do exist.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to aaa on Fri Sep 17 16:27:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/17/21 1:48 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-16 5:07 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/15/21 3:25 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-15 9:15 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 5:11 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-14 11:39 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure >>>>>>>>>>> goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental >>>>>>>>>> illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything wrong >>>>>>>>> about themselves either, but they do need to pay extra
    attention to the traffic lights. For people with mental
    disability, the same kind of extra care is also needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic does
    crap with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand you
    from your point of view, but you need to understand yourself from >>>>>>> their point of view also. Mental disability is not a human right. >>>>>>>

    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes this >>>>>>>> BS gets in my head, but the more you know and skeptical you are, >>>>>>>> the lower risk you will be brainwashed by a real ideology of
    transphobia.

    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue
    political. It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your
    problem, but you cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender.
    Being trans is about diversity, not pathology.

    That is a political statement.
    It's obvious you haven't read my whole post. How it can be political
    when WPATH itself says that being transgender is a matter of
    diversity, not pathology?

    Because it is a political statement by itself.


    Even though there is overwhelming evidence to support that it is an
    empirical statement, right?

    The word "diversity" is obviously political.

    Sexuality is not a matter of choice. There is no such thing called "diversity". Being sick either physically or mentally has nothing to do
    with diversity.


    Neither is gender identity. The only decision I could make is to
    transition and be honest about being trans. Generally, cis people don't transition, due to high discrimination rates and because they would get
    gender dysphoria.

    mental illness: any of a broad range of medical conditions (such as
    major depression, schizophrenia, obsessive compulsive disorder, or panic disorder) that are marked primarily by sufficient disorganization of personality, mind, or emotions to impair normal psychological
    functioning and cause marked distress or disability and that are
    typically associated with a disruption in normal thinking, feeling,
    mood, behavior, interpersonal interactions, or daily functioning

    So far, being transgender doesn't impair normal psychological
    functioning. The thing that impairs is your daily life is gender
    dysphoria, due to society being shit to those people.

    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 18 09:13:16 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-16 5:12 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/13/21 11:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 9:25 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote: >>>>>>> Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ wrote: >>>>>>>>
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure
    goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental >>>>>>>> illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all
    participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you say >>>>>>> you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false front >>>>>>> to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now.






    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    Of course not, is God a failure so as to make you a success??





    Michael Christ

    The truth about your ghod is that there is no empirical evidence for the

    Empirical evidence is for idols. God's evidence is the spiritual evidence.

    existence for one. So far there is as much evidence for one as for
    treating gender dysphoria without gender-affirming psychotherapy and transitioning. Read my signature if you don't believe me.

    Sexuality is a mental function. Sexual confusion is a mental disability.




    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 18 10:34:32 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-17 12:27 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/17/21 1:48 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-16 5:07 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/15/21 3:25 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-15 9:15 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 5:11 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-14 11:39 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the >>>>>>>>>>>> trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure >>>>>>>>>>>> goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a
    mental illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything wrong >>>>>>>>>> about themselves either, but they do need to pay extra
    attention to the traffic lights. For people with mental
    disability, the same kind of extra care is also needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic does >>>>>>>>> crap with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand you
    from your point of view, but you need to understand yourself
    from their point of view also. Mental disability is not a human >>>>>>>> right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes this >>>>>>>>> BS gets in my head, but the more you know and skeptical you
    are, the lower risk you will be brainwashed by a real ideology >>>>>>>>> of transphobia.

    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue
    political. It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your
    problem, but you cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender.
    Being trans is about diversity, not pathology.

    That is a political statement.
    It's obvious you haven't read my whole post. How it can be
    political when WPATH itself says that being transgender is a matter
    of diversity, not pathology?

    Because it is a political statement by itself.


    Even though there is overwhelming evidence to support that it is an
    empirical statement, right?

    The word "diversity" is obviously political.

    Sexuality is not a matter of choice. There is no such thing called
    "diversity". Being sick either physically or mentally has nothing to
    do with diversity.


    Neither is gender identity. The only decision I could make is to
    transition and be honest about being trans. Generally, cis people don't transition, due to high discrimination rates and because they would get gender dysphoria.

    You need to go one step farther. You need to be honest about your mental disability in identifying sexuality as the colorblind people need to be
    honest about their mental disability in identifying color.


    mental illness: any of a broad range of medical conditions (such as
    major depression, schizophrenia, obsessive compulsive disorder, or panic disorder) that are marked primarily by sufficient disorganization of personality, mind, or emotions to impair normal psychological
    functioning and cause marked distress or disability and that are
    typically associated with a disruption in normal thinking, feeling,
    mood, behavior, interpersonal interactions, or daily functioning

    So far, being transgender doesn't impair normal psychological

    It does impair your sexuality. Sexuality is an important part of normal psychological function.

    functioning. The thing that impairs is your daily life is gender
    dysphoria, due to society being shit to those people.



    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to aaa on Sat Sep 18 13:31:59 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote in news:si4rgo$6tf$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2021-09-16 5:12 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/13/21 11:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 9:25 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
    wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
    wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure >>>>>>>>>> goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental >>>>>>>>> illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all
    participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you >>>>>>>> say you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false
    front to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now.






    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    Of course not, is God a failure so as to make you a success??





    Michael Christ

    The truth about your ghod is that there is no empirical evidence for
    the

    Empirical evidence is for idols. God's evidence is the spiritual
    evidence.


    Wasn't your head injury treated
    with empirical evidence?

    Why didn't you rely on "god's
    evidence" instead?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Sep 19 10:57:46 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-18 2:31 p.m., Mitchell Holman wrote:
    aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote in news:si4rgo$6tf$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2021-09-16 5:12 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/13/21 11:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 9:25 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
    wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure >>>>>>>>>>> goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental >>>>>>>>>> illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all
    participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you >>>>>>>>> say you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false
    front to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now.






    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    Of course not, is God a failure so as to make you a success??





    Michael Christ

    The truth about your ghod is that there is no empirical evidence for
    the

    Empirical evidence is for idols. God's evidence is the spiritual
    evidence.


    Wasn't your head injury treated
    with empirical evidence?

    I'm talking about the spiritual and philosophical issue of God's
    existence instead. It has nothing to do with the inferior physical
    empirical evidence.


    Why didn't you rely on "god's
    evidence" instead?

    Because it's an irrelevant issue.








    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to aaa on Mon Sep 20 19:52:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/18/21 2:34 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 12:27 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/17/21 1:48 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-16 5:07 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/15/21 3:25 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-15 9:15 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 5:11 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-14 11:39 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure >>>>>>>>>>>>> goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being >>>>>>>>>>>> transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a >>>>>>>>>>>> mental illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything >>>>>>>>>>> wrong about themselves either, but they do need to pay extra >>>>>>>>>>> attention to the traffic lights. For people with mental
    disability, the same kind of extra care is also needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic does >>>>>>>>>> crap with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand you >>>>>>>>> from your point of view, but you need to understand yourself >>>>>>>>> from their point of view also. Mental disability is not a human >>>>>>>>> right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes >>>>>>>>>> this BS gets in my head, but the more you know and skeptical >>>>>>>>>> you are, the lower risk you will be brainwashed by a real
    ideology of transphobia.

    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue
    political. It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your
    problem, but you cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender.
    Being trans is about diversity, not pathology.

    That is a political statement.
    It's obvious you haven't read my whole post. How it can be
    political when WPATH itself says that being transgender is a
    matter of diversity, not pathology?

    Because it is a political statement by itself.


    Even though there is overwhelming evidence to support that it is an
    empirical statement, right?

    The word "diversity" is obviously political.

    Sexuality is not a matter of choice. There is no such thing called
    "diversity". Being sick either physically or mentally has nothing to
    do with diversity.


    Neither is gender identity. The only decision I could make is to
    transition and be honest about being trans. Generally, cis people
    don't transition, due to high discrimination rates and because they
    would get gender dysphoria.

    You need to go one step farther. You need to be honest about your mental disability in identifying sexuality as the colorblind people need to be honest about their mental disability in identifying color.


    mental illness: any of a broad range of medical conditions (such as
    major depression, schizophrenia, obsessive compulsive disorder, or
    panic disorder) that are marked primarily by sufficient
    disorganization of personality, mind, or emotions to impair normal
    psychological functioning and cause marked distress or disability and
    that are typically associated with a disruption in normal thinking,
    feeling, mood, behavior, interpersonal interactions, or daily functioning

    So far, being transgender doesn't impair normal psychological

    It does impair your sexuality.  Sexuality is an important part of normal psychological function.


    I'm too old to have children, but if I'm a transgender lesbian with
    penis, then what stops me from banging a cisgender lesbian and having a
    child?

    functioning. The thing that impairs is your daily life is gender
    dysphoria, due to society being shit to those people.





    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to aaa on Mon Sep 20 19:55:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/19/21 2:57 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-18 2:31 p.m., Mitchell Holman wrote:
    aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote in news:si4rgo$6tf$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2021-09-16 5:12 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/13/21 11:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 9:25 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the >>>>>>>>>>>> trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure >>>>>>>>>>>> goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental >>>>>>>>>>> illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all >>>>>>>>>> participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you >>>>>>>>>> say you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false >>>>>>>>>> front to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now.






    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    Of course not, is God a failure so as to make you a success??





    Michael Christ

    The truth about your ghod is that there is no empirical evidence for
    the

    Empirical evidence is for idols. God's evidence is the spiritual
    evidence.


          Wasn't your head injury treated
    with empirical evidence?

    I'm talking about the spiritual and philosophical issue of God's
    existence instead. It has nothing to do with the inferior physical
    empirical evidence.

    You cannot prove that there are dragons in universe.



          Why didn't you rely on "god's
    evidence" instead?

    Because it's an irrelevant issue.










    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender-affirmative trans care *requires* therapy. That is, unless you go
    the informed consent route, which you can always refuse to.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 21 12:03:25 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-20 3:55 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/19/21 2:57 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-18 2:31 p.m., Mitchell Holman wrote:
    aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote in news:si4rgo$6tf$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2021-09-16 5:12 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/13/21 11:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 9:25 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure >>>>>>>>>>>>> goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being >>>>>>>>>>>> transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental >>>>>>>>>>>> illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all >>>>>>>>>>> participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you >>>>>>>>>>> say you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false >>>>>>>>>>> front to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and cleansed. >>>>>>>>
    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now.






    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    Of course not, is God a failure so as to make you a success??





    Michael Christ

    The truth about your ghod is that there is no empirical evidence for >>>>> the

    Empirical evidence is for idols. God's evidence is the spiritual
    evidence.


          Wasn't your head injury treated
    with empirical evidence?

    I'm talking about the spiritual and philosophical issue of God's
    existence instead. It has nothing to do with the inferior physical
    empirical evidence.

    You cannot prove that there are dragons in universe.


    Sorry, not my interest.





          Why didn't you rely on "god's
    evidence" instead?

    Because it's an irrelevant issue.












    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 21 12:05:12 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-20 3:52 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/18/21 2:34 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 12:27 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/17/21 1:48 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-16 5:07 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/15/21 3:25 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-15 9:15 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 5:11 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-14 11:39 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure >>>>>>>>>>>>>> goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being >>>>>>>>>>>>> transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a >>>>>>>>>>>>> mental illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything >>>>>>>>>>>> wrong about themselves either, but they do need to pay extra >>>>>>>>>>>> attention to the traffic lights. For people with mental >>>>>>>>>>>> disability, the same kind of extra care is also needed. >>>>>>>>>>>>



    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic does >>>>>>>>>>> crap with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand you >>>>>>>>>> from your point of view, but you need to understand yourself >>>>>>>>>> from their point of view also. Mental disability is not a
    human right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes >>>>>>>>>>> this BS gets in my head, but the more you know and skeptical >>>>>>>>>>> you are, the lower risk you will be brainwashed by a real >>>>>>>>>>> ideology of transphobia.

    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue >>>>>>>>>> political. It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your >>>>>>>>>> problem, but you cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender. >>>>>>>>> Being trans is about diversity, not pathology.

    That is a political statement.
    It's obvious you haven't read my whole post. How it can be
    political when WPATH itself says that being transgender is a
    matter of diversity, not pathology?

    Because it is a political statement by itself.


    Even though there is overwhelming evidence to support that it is an
    empirical statement, right?

    The word "diversity" is obviously political.

    Sexuality is not a matter of choice. There is no such thing called
    "diversity". Being sick either physically or mentally has nothing to
    do with diversity.


    Neither is gender identity. The only decision I could make is to
    transition and be honest about being trans. Generally, cis people
    don't transition, due to high discrimination rates and because they
    would get gender dysphoria.

    You need to go one step farther. You need to be honest about your
    mental disability in identifying sexuality as the colorblind people
    need to be honest about their mental disability in identifying color.


    mental illness: any of a broad range of medical conditions (such as
    major depression, schizophrenia, obsessive compulsive disorder, or
    panic disorder) that are marked primarily by sufficient
    disorganization of personality, mind, or emotions to impair normal
    psychological functioning and cause marked distress or disability and
    that are typically associated with a disruption in normal thinking,
    feeling, mood, behavior, interpersonal interactions, or daily
    functioning

    So far, being transgender doesn't impair normal psychological

    It does impair your sexuality.  Sexuality is an important part of
    normal psychological function.


    I'm too old to have children, but if I'm a transgender lesbian with
    penis, then what stops me from banging a cisgender lesbian and having a child?

    I'm talking about your mental health instead.


    functioning. The thing that impairs is your daily life is gender
    dysphoria, due to society being shit to those people.







    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Sep 21 12:41:11 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote in news:sid10f$37v$10@dont-email.me:

    On 2021-09-20 3:55 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/19/21 2:57 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-18 2:31 p.m., Mitchell Holman wrote:
    aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote in news:si4rgo$6tf$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2021-09-16 5:12 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/13/21 11:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 9:25 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t
    ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t
    ------------ wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pure goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being >>>>>>>>>>>>> transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a >>>>>>>>>>>>> mental illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all >>>>>>>>>>>> participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender >>>>>>>>>>>> you say you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false >>>>>>>>>>>> front to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and
    cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now. >>>>>>>>>





    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    Of course not, is God a failure so as to make you a success??





    Michael Christ

    The truth about your ghod is that there is no empirical evidence
    for the

    Empirical evidence is for idols. God's evidence is the spiritual
    evidence.


          Wasn't your head injury treated
    with empirical evidence?

    I'm talking about the spiritual and philosophical issue of God's
    existence instead. It has nothing to do with the inferior physical
    empirical evidence.

    You cannot prove that there are dragons in universe.


    Sorry, not my interest.


    Does this mean you are abandoning your
    dragons-as-spiritual-dinosaurs claim?





    "Dragons are dinosaurs that survived their
    destruction by existing spiritually. They
    are spiritual creatures that can only be
    seen by people with their spiritual eyes
    opened. They are still with us today, but
    few of us can see them."
    "aaa", Feb 9 2018
    http://tinyurl.com/y7eg3xb4

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue Sep 21 13:47:54 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-21 1:41 p.m., Mitchell Holman wrote:
    aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote in news:sid10f$37v$10@dont-email.me:

    On 2021-09-20 3:55 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/19/21 2:57 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-18 2:31 p.m., Mitchell Holman wrote:
    aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote in news:si4rgo$6tf$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2021-09-16 5:12 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/13/21 11:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 9:25 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t
    ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t
    ------------ wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pure goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being >>>>>>>>>>>>>> transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mental illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all >>>>>>>>>>>>> participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender >>>>>>>>>>>>> you say you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false >>>>>>>>>>>>> front to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and
    cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now. >>>>>>>>>>





    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    Of course not, is God a failure so as to make you a success??





    Michael Christ

    The truth about your ghod is that there is no empirical evidence >>>>>>> for the

    Empirical evidence is for idols. God's evidence is the spiritual
    evidence.


          Wasn't your head injury treated
    with empirical evidence?

    I'm talking about the spiritual and philosophical issue of God's
    existence instead. It has nothing to do with the inferior physical
    empirical evidence.

    You cannot prove that there are dragons in universe.


    Sorry, not my interest.


    Does this mean you are abandoning your
    dragons-as-spiritual-dinosaurs claim?

    No, that is only my personal opinion. You can take it or leave it. It's
    not my interest to prove it.






    "Dragons are dinosaurs that survived their
    destruction by existing spiritually. They
    are spiritual creatures that can only be
    seen by people with their spiritual eyes
    opened. They are still with us today, but
    few of us can see them."
    "aaa", Feb 9 2018
    http://tinyurl.com/y7eg3xb4



    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scientific (she/her)@21:1/5 to aaa on Wed Sep 22 21:27:00 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 9/21/21 4:05 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-20 3:52 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/18/21 2:34 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 12:27 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/17/21 1:48 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-16 5:07 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/15/21 3:25 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-15 9:15 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 5:11 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-14 11:39 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t
    ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pure goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being >>>>>>>>>>>>>> transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mental illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    People who are color blind don't think there is anything >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong about themselves either, but they do need to pay >>>>>>>>>>>>> extra attention to the traffic lights. For people with >>>>>>>>>>>>> mental disability, the same kind of extra care is also needed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>



    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic does >>>>>>>>>>>> crap with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand you >>>>>>>>>>> from your point of view, but you need to understand yourself >>>>>>>>>>> from their point of view also. Mental disability is not a >>>>>>>>>>> human right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>> this BS gets in my head, but the more you know and skeptical >>>>>>>>>>>> you are, the lower risk you will be brainwashed by a real >>>>>>>>>>>> ideology of transphobia.

    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue >>>>>>>>>>> political. It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your >>>>>>>>>>> problem, but you cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender. >>>>>>>>>> Being trans is about diversity, not pathology.

    That is a political statement.
    It's obvious you haven't read my whole post. How it can be
    political when WPATH itself says that being transgender is a
    matter of diversity, not pathology?

    Because it is a political statement by itself.


    Even though there is overwhelming evidence to support that it is
    an empirical statement, right?

    The word "diversity" is obviously political.

    Sexuality is not a matter of choice. There is no such thing called
    "diversity". Being sick either physically or mentally has nothing
    to do with diversity.


    Neither is gender identity. The only decision I could make is to
    transition and be honest about being trans. Generally, cis people
    don't transition, due to high discrimination rates and because they
    would get gender dysphoria.

    You need to go one step farther. You need to be honest about your
    mental disability in identifying sexuality as the colorblind people
    need to be honest about their mental disability in identifying color.


    mental illness: any of a broad range of medical conditions (such as
    major depression, schizophrenia, obsessive compulsive disorder, or
    panic disorder) that are marked primarily by sufficient
    disorganization of personality, mind, or emotions to impair normal
    psychological functioning and cause marked distress or disability
    and that are typically associated with a disruption in normal
    thinking, feeling, mood, behavior, interpersonal interactions, or
    daily functioning

    So far, being transgender doesn't impair normal psychological

    It does impair your sexuality.  Sexuality is an important part of
    normal psychological function.


    I'm too old to have children, but if I'm a transgender lesbian with
    penis, then what stops me from banging a cisgender lesbian and having
    a child?

    I'm talking about your mental health instead.

    I'm mentally well, I see a gender therapist every week.

    functioning. The thing that impairs is your daily life is gender
    dysphoria, due to society being shit to those people.









    --
    There is no verifiable evidence that gender dysphoria can be treated in
    other ways than transitioning. None whatsoever.
    Gender identity becomes unchangeable by age 4, something transphobes
    fail to understand.
    Scaring trans people away from transitioning and repressing their
    identities *IS* conversion therapy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 22 14:56:28 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-22 2:27 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/21/21 4:05 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-20 3:52 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/18/21 2:34 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 12:27 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/17/21 1:48 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-16 5:07 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/15/21 3:25 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-15 9:15 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 5:11 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-14 11:39 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t
    ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pure goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mental illness, however, gender dysphoria can be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    People who are color blind don't think there is anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong about themselves either, but they do need to pay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> extra attention to the traffic lights. For people with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mental disability, the same kind of extra care is also >>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic >>>>>>>>>>>>> does crap with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand >>>>>>>>>>>> you from your point of view, but you need to understand >>>>>>>>>>>> yourself from their point of view also. Mental disability is >>>>>>>>>>>> not a human right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>>> this BS gets in my head, but the more you know and
    skeptical you are, the lower risk you will be brainwashed >>>>>>>>>>>>> by a real ideology of transphobia.

    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue >>>>>>>>>>>> political. It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your >>>>>>>>>>>> problem, but you cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender. >>>>>>>>>>> Being trans is about diversity, not pathology.

    That is a political statement.
    It's obvious you haven't read my whole post. How it can be
    political when WPATH itself says that being transgender is a >>>>>>>>> matter of diversity, not pathology?

    Because it is a political statement by itself.


    Even though there is overwhelming evidence to support that it is >>>>>>> an empirical statement, right?

    The word "diversity" is obviously political.

    Sexuality is not a matter of choice. There is no such thing called >>>>>> "diversity". Being sick either physically or mentally has nothing
    to do with diversity.


    Neither is gender identity. The only decision I could make is to
    transition and be honest about being trans. Generally, cis people
    don't transition, due to high discrimination rates and because they
    would get gender dysphoria.

    You need to go one step farther. You need to be honest about your
    mental disability in identifying sexuality as the colorblind people
    need to be honest about their mental disability in identifying color.


    mental illness: any of a broad range of medical conditions (such as
    major depression, schizophrenia, obsessive compulsive disorder, or
    panic disorder) that are marked primarily by sufficient
    disorganization of personality, mind, or emotions to impair normal
    psychological functioning and cause marked distress or disability
    and that are typically associated with a disruption in normal
    thinking, feeling, mood, behavior, interpersonal interactions, or
    daily functioning

    So far, being transgender doesn't impair normal psychological

    It does impair your sexuality.  Sexuality is an important part of
    normal psychological function.


    I'm too old to have children, but if I'm a transgender lesbian with
    penis, then what stops me from banging a cisgender lesbian and having
    a child?

    I'm talking about your mental health instead.

    I'm mentally well, I see a gender therapist every week.

    functioning. The thing that impairs is your daily life is gender
    dysphoria, due to society being shit to those people.









    you have no boobs

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 23 10:02:42 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 23/09/2021 7:27 am, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/21/21 4:05 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-20 3:52 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/18/21 2:34 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 12:27 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/17/21 1:48 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-16 5:07 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/15/21 3:25 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-15 9:15 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 5:11 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-14 11:39 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t
    ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pure goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mental illness, however, gender dysphoria can be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    People who are color blind don't think there is anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong about themselves either, but they do need to pay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> extra attention to the traffic lights. For people with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mental disability, the same kind of extra care is also >>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic >>>>>>>>>>>>> does crap with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand >>>>>>>>>>>> you from your point of view, but you need to understand >>>>>>>>>>>> yourself from their point of view also. Mental disability is >>>>>>>>>>>> not a human right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>>> this BS gets in my head, but the more you know and
    skeptical you are, the lower risk you will be brainwashed >>>>>>>>>>>>> by a real ideology of transphobia.

    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue >>>>>>>>>>>> political. It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your >>>>>>>>>>>> problem, but you cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender. >>>>>>>>>>> Being trans is about diversity, not pathology.

    That is a political statement.
    It's obvious you haven't read my whole post. How it can be
    political when WPATH itself says that being transgender is a >>>>>>>>> matter of diversity, not pathology?

    Because it is a political statement by itself.


    Even though there is overwhelming evidence to support that it is >>>>>>> an empirical statement, right?

    The word "diversity" is obviously political.

    Sexuality is not a matter of choice. There is no such thing called >>>>>> "diversity". Being sick either physically or mentally has nothing
    to do with diversity.


    Neither is gender identity. The only decision I could make is to
    transition and be honest about being trans. Generally, cis people
    don't transition, due to high discrimination rates and because they
    would get gender dysphoria.

    You need to go one step farther. You need to be honest about your
    mental disability in identifying sexuality as the colorblind people
    need to be honest about their mental disability in identifying color.


    mental illness: any of a broad range of medical conditions (such as
    major depression, schizophrenia, obsessive compulsive disorder, or
    panic disorder) that are marked primarily by sufficient
    disorganization of personality, mind, or emotions to impair normal
    psychological functioning and cause marked distress or disability
    and that are typically associated with a disruption in normal
    thinking, feeling, mood, behavior, interpersonal interactions, or
    daily functioning

    So far, being transgender doesn't impair normal psychological

    It does impair your sexuality.  Sexuality is an important part of
    normal psychological function.


    I'm too old to have children, but if I'm a transgender lesbian with
    penis, then what stops me from banging a cisgender lesbian and having
    a child?

    I'm talking about your mental health instead.

    I'm mentally well, I see a gender therapist every week.


    Those who are mentally well do not have to.





    Michael Christ



    functioning. The thing that impairs is your daily life is gender
    dysphoria, due to society being shit to those people.











    --
    Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory".

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything".

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are".

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God".

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination".

    "Compromise will condemn you".

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus".

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all".

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life".

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything".

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying 'prove it' [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 23 11:07:32 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.checkmate, alt.atheism

    On 2021-09-22 5:27 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/21/21 4:05 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-20 3:52 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/18/21 2:34 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 12:27 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/17/21 1:48 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-16 5:07 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/15/21 3:25 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-15 9:15 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 5:11 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-14 11:39 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/14/21 2:38 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 12:31 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/12/21 3:13 PM, aaa wrote:
    On 2021-09-11 10:22 a.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t
    ------------ wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:

    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pure goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mental illness, however, gender dysphoria can be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    People who are color blind don't think there is anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong about themselves either, but they do need to pay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> extra attention to the traffic lights. For people with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mental disability, the same kind of extra care is also >>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.




    My life is fine, it only sucks when someone transphobic >>>>>>>>>>>>> does crap with me.

    Thank you for proving my point. People need to understand >>>>>>>>>>>> you from your point of view, but you need to understand >>>>>>>>>>>> yourself from their point of view also. Mental disability is >>>>>>>>>>>> not a human right.


    I love debunking transphobic stuff and honestly, sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>>> this BS gets in my head, but the more you know and
    skeptical you are, the lower risk you will be brainwashed >>>>>>>>>>>>> by a real ideology of transphobia.

    There is no real benefit to make your mental medical issue >>>>>>>>>>>> political. It's perfectly fine for people to "ignore" your >>>>>>>>>>>> problem, but you cannot ignore your own problem.




    Honestly, there is nothing political about being transgender. >>>>>>>>>>> Being trans is about diversity, not pathology.

    That is a political statement.
    It's obvious you haven't read my whole post. How it can be
    political when WPATH itself says that being transgender is a >>>>>>>>> matter of diversity, not pathology?

    Because it is a political statement by itself.


    Even though there is overwhelming evidence to support that it is >>>>>>> an empirical statement, right?

    The word "diversity" is obviously political.

    Sexuality is not a matter of choice. There is no such thing called >>>>>> "diversity". Being sick either physically or mentally has nothing
    to do with diversity.


    Neither is gender identity. The only decision I could make is to
    transition and be honest about being trans. Generally, cis people
    don't transition, due to high discrimination rates and because they
    would get gender dysphoria.

    You need to go one step farther. You need to be honest about your
    mental disability in identifying sexuality as the colorblind people
    need to be honest about their mental disability in identifying color.


    mental illness: any of a broad range of medical conditions (such as
    major depression, schizophrenia, obsessive compulsive disorder, or
    panic disorder) that are marked primarily by sufficient
    disorganization of personality, mind, or emotions to impair normal
    psychological functioning and cause marked distress or disability
    and that are typically associated with a disruption in normal
    thinking, feeling, mood, behavior, interpersonal interactions, or
    daily functioning

    So far, being transgender doesn't impair normal psychological

    It does impair your sexuality.  Sexuality is an important part of
    normal psychological function.


    I'm too old to have children, but if I'm a transgender lesbian with
    penis, then what stops me from banging a cisgender lesbian and having
    a child?

    I'm talking about your mental health instead.

    I'm mentally well, I see a gender therapist every week.

    Sexuality is an important part of mental health. It is important even to
    the heterosexuals. It is why we have sex education.


    functioning. The thing that impairs is your daily life is gender
    dysphoria, due to society being shit to those people.











    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From %@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 24 07:08:09 2021
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.atheism

    On 9/17/2021 12:23 PM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/16/21 9:35 PM, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-16 2:12 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/13/21 11:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 9:25 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------
    wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the
    trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain).  Pure >>>>>>>>>>> goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental >>>>>>>>>> illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all
    participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you say >>>>>>>>> you are today.

    It is a lie.  By goofballs who pretend and put up a false front >>>>>>>>> to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now.






    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    Of course not, is God a failure so as to make you a success??





    Michael Christ

    The truth about your ghod is that there is no empirical evidence for
    the existence for one. So far there is as much evidence for one as
    for treating gender dysphoria without gender-affirming psychotherapy
    and transitioning. Read my signature if you don't believe me.

    there's no proof you exist either
    Neither there is evidence you do exist.


    why do you come to a place where ,
    you don't like anybody and no one likes you

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to %@dave.keating.yea on Sun Oct 24 13:19:57 2021
    XPost: alt.idiots, alt.atheism, alt.transgendered
    XPost: alt.checkmate

    On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 07:08:09 -0400, % <%@dave.keating.yea> wrote:

    On 9/17/2021 12:23 PM, Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/16/21 9:35 PM, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-16 2:12 p.m., Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/13/21 11:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 9:25 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 4:17 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 14/09/2021 8:20 am, % wrote:
    On 2021-09-13 3:16 p.m., Michael Christ wrote:
    On 13/09/2021 6:09 pm, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) wrote:
    On 9/10/21 11:22 PM, ----------- A t h e i s t ------------ >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Scientific (she/her) wrote:


    I never experienced any pressure to be trans at all.


    I don't like Ben Shapiro but I am 100% with him on the >>>>>>>>>>>> trans-sexuals issue.

    I'm sorry you were born so defective (in the brain). Pure >>>>>>>>>>>> goofballs.


    I'm just being myself, not purposely transgender. Being
    transgender is not a choice. Being transgender is not a mental >>>>>>>>>>> illness, however, gender dysphoria can be.

    Your mental defect manifests in your demanding that we all >>>>>>>>>> participate
    in your lie, by demanding that we call you whatever gender you say >>>>>>>>>> you are today.

    It is a lie. By goofballs who pretend and put up a false front >>>>>>>>>> to us.

    True, but you are also guilty.






    Michael Christ


    no only you are

    I admitted my guilt with my life and was forgiven and cleansed.

    The truth always comes out in the end, better to face it now.






    Michael Christ


    but you still carry the guilt

    Of course not, is God a failure so as to make you a success??





    Michael Christ

    The truth about your ghod is that there is no empirical evidence for
    the existence for one. So far there is as much evidence for one as
    for treating gender dysphoria without gender-affirming psychotherapy
    and transitioning. Read my signature if you don't believe me.

    there's no proof you exist either
    Neither there is evidence you do exist.


    why do you come to a place where ,
    you don't like anybody and no one likes you

    He's delusional and doesn't know which way is up.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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