• Re: pee@sent.net is not a transphobe.

    From KWills@21:1/5 to science@danwin1210.de on Fri Feb 4 11:42:58 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Fri Feb 4 12:55:54 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On 2022-02-04 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    Why? We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    he is the fake %

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to KWills on Fri Feb 4 20:15:00 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned: http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@danwin1210.de on Fri Feb 4 11:41:32 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    Why? We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 4 13:19:19 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On 2022-02-04 1:15 p.m., Scientific (she/her) ⚧ wrote:
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned: http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    i used to be a transient but i moved on

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 4 20:46:00 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On 2/4/22 8:19 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 1:15 p.m., Scientific (she/her) ⚧ wrote:
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned:
    http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    i used to be a transient but i moved on
    Am I the only trans person who is still on Usenet?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David@21:1/5 to KWills on Fri Feb 4 14:55:13 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    "%" wrote in message news:JoWdnTYtS_hUGWD8nZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com...

    On 2022-02-04 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    Why? We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    he is the fake %

    I get big sometimes and I recently learned to yell extremely loud, here in Tulsa at 11th & Yale.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 4 14:12:34 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On 2022-02-04 1:46 p.m., Scientific (she/her) ⚧ wrote:
    On 2/4/22 8:19 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 1:15 p.m., Scientific (she/her) ⚧ wrote:
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake %
    impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned:
    http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    i used to be a transient but i moved on
    Am I the only trans person who is still on Usenet?

    no

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@danwin1210.de on Fri Feb 4 21:56:33 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Horseshit. Nobody has EVER successfully 'transed'. DNA never lies.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned: >http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Fri Feb 4 22:00:06 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 13:19:19 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-04 1:15 p.m., Scientific (she/her) ? wrote:
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned:
    http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    i used to be a transient but i moved on

    'Transient' is 'transphobic'®™.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Fri Feb 4 21:58:59 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 12:55:54 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-04 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    Why? We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    he is the fake %

    Yes, you are.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to David on Fri Feb 4 23:13:46 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 14:55:13 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:

    "%" wrote in message news:JoWdnTYtS_hUGWD8nZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com... >>
    On 2022-02-04 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    Why? We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    he is the fake %

    I get big sometimes and I recently learned to yell extremely loud, here in >Tulsa at 11th & Yale.

    A bad case of Tourette syndrome? Don't try it at 12th & Ferguson.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@danwin1210.de on Fri Feb 4 23:09:50 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:46:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 8:19 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 1:15 p.m., Scientific (she/her) ? wrote:
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned:
    http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    i used to be a transient but i moved on
    Am I the only trans person who is still on Usenet?

    No, because you are NOT a 'trans person'. No such animal exists.

    However, LOTS of delusional people are on Usenet, though not all
    deluded about their sexual identity like you.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to David on Sat Feb 5 09:08:00 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On 2/4/22 8:55 PM, David wrote:


    "%"  wrote in message news:JoWdnTYtS_hUGWD8nZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com...

    On 2022-02-04 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    Why?  We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    he is the fake %

    I get big sometimes and I recently  learned to yell extremely loud, here
    in Tulsa at 11th & Yale.

    Do you live there?

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tulsa,+OK,+USA/@36.1525297,-96.1582101,10z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x87b692b8ddd12e8f:0xe76910c81bd96af7!8m2!3d36.1539816!4d-95.992775?hl=en

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@danwin1210.de on Sat Feb 5 12:57:52 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 09:08:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 8:55 PM, David wrote:


    "%"  wrote in message news:JoWdnTYtS_hUGWD8nZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com... >>
    On 2022-02-04 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    Why?  We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    he is the fake %

    I get big sometimes and I recently  learned to yell extremely loud, here
    in Tulsa at 11th & Yale.

    Do you live there?

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tulsa,+OK,+USA/@36.1525297,-96.1582101,10z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x87b692b8ddd12e8f:0xe76910c81bd96af7!8m2!3d36.1539816!4d-95.992775?hl=en

    Live is too strong a word. He's incarcerated in a halfway nuthouse
    there.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From canoleenie@21:1/5 to science@danwin1210.de on Sat Feb 5 13:53:00 2022
    XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.transgendered

    Scientific (she/her) ⚧ <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:
    On 2/4/22 8:55 PM, David wrote:


    "%"  wrote in message news:JoWdnTYtS_hUGWD8nZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com... >>
    On 2022-02-04 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    Why?  We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    he is the fake %

    I get big sometimes and I recently  learned to yell extremely loud, here
    in Tulsa at 11th & Yale.

    Do you live there?

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tulsa,+OK,+USA/@36.1525297,-96.1582101,10z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x87b692b8ddd12e8f:0xe76910c81bd96af7!8m2!3d36.1539816!4d-95.992775?hl=en


    I’m fine with things and the neighbors talking. I might find a sandwich
    shop or a newspaper on the way.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 5 16:18:00 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Horseshit. Nobody has EVER successfully 'transed'. DNA never lies.

    DNA isn't your personality - it doesn't matter when it comes to being a
    man or a woman.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned:
    http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are. You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 5 16:17:00 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On 2/4/22 9:12 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 1:46 p.m., Scientific (she/her) ⚧ wrote:
    On 2/4/22 8:19 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 1:15 p.m., Scientific (she/her) ⚧ wrote:
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake %
    impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly
    banned: http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    i used to be a transient but i moved on
    Am I the only trans person who is still on Usenet?

    no
    Then ask them to drop a letter at <science@danwin1210.me>. If they are
    too afraid to share their real e-mail address, then they should create
    an Usenet-specific one.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 5 16:19:00 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On 2/4/22 11:09 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:46:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 8:19 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 1:15 p.m., Scientific (she/her) ? wrote:
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned:
    http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    i used to be a transient but i moved on
    Am I the only trans person who is still on Usenet?

    No, because you are NOT a 'trans person'. No such animal exists.

    However, LOTS of delusional people are on Usenet, though not all
    deluded about their sexual identity like you.

    Print your Usenet articles and go to PFLAG with them. Show these paper
    sheets to them. See their reaction.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@danwin1210.de on Sat Feb 5 19:37:48 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender >affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Horseshit. Nobody has EVER successfully 'transed'. DNA never lies.

    DNA isn't your personality - it doesn't matter when it comes to being a
    man or a woman.

    DNA is your sexual identity and it cannot be changed. It DETERMINES
    whether you become a man or a woman. Personality is superficial and
    has jack shit do do with it

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned:
    http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are.

    Ignorant? This from a delusional asshole who rejects the scientific
    FACTS of DNA! Simply incredible!

    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The
    reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you
    will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 5 20:44:00 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.
    It doesn't mean that you're cis, non-binary or trans. It's fine, and you should, in fact, figure it out before you even think about
    transitioning. You will learn more about yourself in 6 months doing 101% reversible stuff than wasting 50 years in front of your CRT.
    Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Horseshit. Nobody has EVER successfully 'transed'. DNA never lies.

    DNA isn't your personality - it doesn't matter when it comes to being a
    man or a woman.

    DNA is your sexual identity and it cannot be changed. It DETERMINES
    whether you become a man or a woman. Personality is superficial and
    has jack shit do do with it

    As long as you aren't a criminal, I don't see how being trans would be
    harmful to anyone but themselves if they make decisions recklessly.
    Hormones are not toys - they are serious substances changing the way
    your body works. Your gender therapist *will* tell you that and if you
    are whining to get them, then you won't get them because you aren't
    mature enough to make this kind of decisions.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned:
    http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are.

    Ignorant? This from a delusional asshole who rejects the scientific
    FACTS of DNA! Simply incredible!

    If you believe that we say that "biological sex isn't real", then bingo
    - you just gave yourself away as a TERF.


    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The
    reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you
    will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.

    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to canoleenie on Sat Feb 5 21:04:00 2022
    XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.transgendered

    On 2/5/22 1:53 PM, canoleenie wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) ⚧ <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:
    On 2/4/22 8:55 PM, David wrote:


    "%"  wrote in message news:JoWdnTYtS_hUGWD8nZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com...

    On 2022-02-04 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>
    Why?  We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    he is the fake %

    I get big sometimes and I recently  learned to yell extremely loud, here >>> in Tulsa at 11th & Yale.

    Do you live there?

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tulsa,+OK,+USA/@36.1525297,-96.1582101,10z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x87b692b8ddd12e8f:0xe76910c81bd96af7!8m2!3d36.1539816!4d-95.992775?hl=en


    I’m fine with things and the neighbors talking. I might find a sandwich shop or a newspaper on the way.

    Well, the city of Tulsa has more population than entire Wyoming.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@danwin1210.de on Sat Feb 5 22:34:16 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    It doesn't mean that you're cis, non-binary or trans. It's fine, and you >should, in fact, figure it out before you even think about
    transitioning. You will learn more about yourself in 6 months doing 101% >reversible stuff than wasting 50 years in front of your CRT.

    Nobody should even THINK about 'transitioning' because, to put it
    bluntly, it's physically impossible.

    Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Horseshit. Nobody has EVER successfully 'transed'. DNA never lies.

    DNA isn't your personality - it doesn't matter when it comes to being a
    man or a woman.

    DNA is your sexual identity and it cannot be changed. It DETERMINES
    whether you become a man or a woman. Personality is superficial and
    has jack shit do do with it

    As long as you aren't a criminal, I don't see how being trans would be >harmful to anyone but themselves if they make decisions recklessly.
    Hormones are not toys - they are serious substances changing the way
    your body works. Your gender therapist *will* tell you that and if you
    are whining to get them, then you won't get them because you aren't
    mature enough to make this kind of decisions.

    Being 'trans' is a physical impossibility so talking about it being
    harmful or not is absolutely pointless.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned: >>>>> http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are.

    Ignorant? This from a delusional asshole who rejects the scientific
    FACTS of DNA! Simply incredible!

    If you believe that we say that "biological sex isn't real", then bingo
    - you just gave yourself away as a TERF.

    I don't care what labels you put on it, reality is reality and
    biological sex is the ONLY sex that matters.

    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The
    reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you
    will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.

    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting
    off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that
    don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 6 09:57:52 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression, alt.atheism
    XPost: alt.sixtyplus

    On 2/4/2022 3:19 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 1:15 p.m., Scientific (she/her) ⚧ wrote:
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned:
    http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    i used to be a transient but i moved on

    you get really around on that rascal scooter, squiggles

    https://imgur.com/a/UXzxN8a YAY

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to canoleenie on Sun Feb 6 10:04:04 2022
    XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.transgendered, alt.atheism

    On 2/5/2022 8:53 AM, canoleenie wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) ⚧ <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:
    On 2/4/22 8:55 PM, David wrote:


    "%"  wrote in message news:JoWdnTYtS_hUGWD8nZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com...

    On 2022-02-04 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>
    Why?  We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    he is the fake %

    I get big sometimes and I recently  learned to yell extremely loud, here >>> in Tulsa at 11th & Yale.

    Do you live there?

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tulsa,+OK,+USA/@36.1525297,-96.1582101,10z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x87b692b8ddd12e8f:0xe76910c81bd96af7!8m2!3d36.1539816!4d-95.992775?hl=en


    I’m fine with things and the neighbors talking. I might find a sandwich shop or a newspaper on the way.

    don't chew the used condoms you find this time

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 6 10:01:04 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression, alt.atheism

    On 2/4/2022 3:46 PM, Scientific (she/her) ⚧ wrote:
    On 2/4/22 8:19 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 1:15 p.m., Scientific (she/her) ⚧ wrote:
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake %
    impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned:
    http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    i used to be a transient but i moved on
    Am I the only trans person who is still on Usenet?

    skeeter aka fred oinka likes to dress like one of you freaks
    but he's a trailer trash pissbum

    https://postlmg.cc/PCrmjBGC YIKES!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pee@sent.net on Sun Feb 6 13:42:25 2022
    XPost: alt.idiots, alt.transgendered

    On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 10:04:04 -0500, % <pee@sent.net> wrote:

    On 2/5/2022 8:53 AM, canoleenie wrote:
    Scientific (she/her) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:
    On 2/4/22 8:55 PM, David wrote:


    "%"  wrote in message news:JoWdnTYtS_hUGWD8nZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com...

    On 2022-02-04 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>
    Why?  We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    he is the fake %

    I get big sometimes and I recently  learned to yell extremely loud, here >>>> in Tulsa at 11th & Yale.

    Do you live there?

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tulsa,+OK,+USA/@36.1525297,-96.1582101,10z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x87b692b8ddd12e8f:0xe76910c81bd96af7!8m2!3d36.1539816!4d-95.992775?hl=en


    I’m fine with things and the neighbors talking. I might find a sandwich
    shop or a newspaper on the way.

    don't chew the used condoms you find this time

    Why, do YOU want them?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 7 20:51:00 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.
    They are free to make up words which they want.

    It doesn't mean that you're cis, non-binary or trans. It's fine, and you
    should, in fact, figure it out before you even think about
    transitioning. You will learn more about yourself in 6 months doing 101%
    reversible stuff than wasting 50 years in front of your CRT.

    Nobody should even THINK about 'transitioning' because, to put it
    bluntly, it's physically impossible.

    Well, it is possible to some degree. For example, estrogen grows your
    breasts, makes your skin smaller, and surgery changes your genitalia or
    body characteristics. Be sure, though - some of these changes are
    irreversible.

    Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Horseshit. Nobody has EVER successfully 'transed'. DNA never lies.

    DNA isn't your personality - it doesn't matter when it comes to being a >>>> man or a woman.

    DNA is your sexual identity and it cannot be changed. It DETERMINES
    whether you become a man or a woman. Personality is superficial and
    has jack shit do do with it

    As long as you aren't a criminal, I don't see how being trans would be
    harmful to anyone but themselves if they make decisions recklessly.
    Hormones are not toys - they are serious substances changing the way
    your body works. Your gender therapist *will* tell you that and if you
    are whining to get them, then you won't get them because you aren't
    mature enough to make this kind of decisions.

    Being 'trans' is a physical impossibility so talking about it being
    harmful or not is absolutely pointless.



    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned: >>>>>> http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are.

    Ignorant? This from a delusional asshole who rejects the scientific
    FACTS of DNA! Simply incredible!

    If you believe that we say that "biological sex isn't real", then bingo
    - you just gave yourself away as a TERF.

    I don't care what labels you put on it, reality is reality and
    biological sex is the ONLY sex that matters.

    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The
    reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you
    will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.

    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting
    off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that
    don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 7 20:57:00 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.
    They are free to make up words which they want.

    It doesn't mean that you're cis, non-binary or trans. It's fine, and you
    should, in fact, figure it out before you even think about
    transitioning. You will learn more about yourself in 6 months doing 101%
    reversible stuff than wasting 50 years in front of your CRT.

    Nobody should even THINK about 'transitioning' because, to put it
    bluntly, it's physically impossible.

    Well, it is possible to some degree. For example, estrogen grows your
    breasts, makes your skin smaller, and surgery changes your genitalia or
    body characteristics. Be sure, though - some of these changes are
    irreversible.

    Tons of trans
    people have succesfully transitioned.

    Horseshit. Nobody has EVER successfully 'transed'. DNA never lies.

    DNA isn't your personality - it doesn't matter when it comes to being a >>>> man or a woman.

    DNA is your sexual identity and it cannot be changed. It DETERMINES
    whether you become a man or a woman. Personality is superficial and
    has jack shit do do with it

    As long as you aren't a criminal, I don't see how being trans would be
    harmful to anyone but themselves if they make decisions recklessly.
    Hormones are not toys - they are serious substances changing the way
    your body works. Your gender therapist *will* tell you that and if you
    are whining to get them, then you won't get them because you aren't
    mature enough to make this kind of decisions.

    Being 'trans' is a physical impossibility so talking about it being
    harmful or not is absolutely pointless.

    Yes, it is possible. It is also a social possibility with changes like
    your name, clothing, make-up, voice training. It's not an all-or-nothing journey - for example, I chose to change my name, clothing, voice and
    left out makeup.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned: >>>>>> http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are.

    Ignorant? This from a delusional asshole who rejects the scientific
    FACTS of DNA! Simply incredible!

    If you believe that we say that "biological sex isn't real", then bingo
    - you just gave yourself away as a TERF.

    I don't care what labels you put on it, reality is reality and
    biological sex is the ONLY sex that matters.

    Well, it matters, when you want to have children, in medicine and in
    sports. College swimmer Lia Thomas has been getting a lot of shit simply because she is a trans woman.

    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The
    reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you
    will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.

    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting
    off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that
    don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or
    taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@danwin1210.de on Mon Feb 7 23:37:16 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:57:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Being 'trans' is a physical impossibility so talking about it being
    harmful or not is absolutely pointless.

    Yes, it is possible.

    No, it is absolutely impossible, as a DNA test will show.

    It is also a social possibility with changes like
    your name, clothing, make-up, voice training. It's not an all-or-nothing >journey - for example, I chose to change my name, clothing, voice and
    left out makeup.

    And at the end of all that, you still won't find a man you can fool
    into thinking you're a woman.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned: >>>>>>> http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are.

    Ignorant? This from a delusional asshole who rejects the scientific
    FACTS of DNA! Simply incredible!

    If you believe that we say that "biological sex isn't real", then bingo
    - you just gave yourself away as a TERF.

    I don't care what labels you put on it, reality is reality and
    biological sex is the ONLY sex that matters.

    Well, it matters, when you want to have children, in medicine and in
    sports. College swimmer Lia Thomas has been getting a lot of shit simply >because she is a trans woman.

    If this horseshit continues, that's the end of women's sports. There
    will only be unisex sports and the males will always win.

    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The
    reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you
    will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off >>>> and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.

    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how >>> more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting
    off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that
    don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or
    taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose.

    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting
    something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your
    body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    You take female hormones, don't you? You're obviously fucked up. QED
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to KWills on Fri Feb 11 15:54:00 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:57:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Being 'trans' is a physical impossibility so talking about it being
    harmful or not is absolutely pointless.

    Yes, it is possible.

    No, it is absolutely impossible, as a DNA test will show.

    It is also a social possibility with changes like
    your name, clothing, make-up, voice training. It's not an all-or-nothing
    journey - for example, I chose to change my name, clothing, voice and
    left out makeup.

    And at the end of all that, you still won't find a man you can fool
    into thinking you're a woman.

    I don't need to fool anyone that I'm a woman, I'm just one.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned: >>>>>>>> http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are.

    Ignorant? This from a delusional asshole who rejects the scientific >>>>> FACTS of DNA! Simply incredible!

    If you believe that we say that "biological sex isn't real", then bingo >>>> - you just gave yourself away as a TERF.

    I don't care what labels you put on it, reality is reality and
    biological sex is the ONLY sex that matters.

    Well, it matters, when you want to have children, in medicine and in
    sports. College swimmer Lia Thomas has been getting a lot of shit simply
    because she is a trans woman.

    If this horseshit continues, that's the end of women's sports. There
    will only be unisex sports and the males will always win.

    Well, only the people who are best suited, regardless of their sex,
    should be able to compete.

    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The
    reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you >>>>> will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off >>>>> and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.

    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how >>>> more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting
    off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that
    don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or
    taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose.

    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting
    something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your
    body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    There is some amount of estrogen of your body, isn't it? HRT isn't that
    risky as you think according to currently existing research.

    You take female hormones, don't you? You're obviously fucked up. QED
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


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  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to KWills on Fri Feb 11 15:52:00 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any >>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change >>>>>> that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and >>>>> this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender. >>>
    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    It doesn't mean that you're cis, non-binary or trans. It's fine, and you >>>> should, in fact, figure it out before you even think about
    transitioning. You will learn more about yourself in 6 months doing 101% >>>> reversible stuff than wasting 50 years in front of your CRT.

    Nobody should even THINK about 'transitioning' because, to put it
    bluntly, it's physically impossible.

    Well, it is possible to some degree. For example, estrogen grows your
    breasts, makes your skin smaller, and surgery changes your genitalia or
    body characteristics. Be sure, though - some of these changes are
    irreversible.

    Those changes are, as I've said before, merely superficial/cosmetic.
    You're still the same sex you were born as. You may become a more
    convincing female impersonator as a result of these changes but that's
    all you'll ever be.

    Well, I like the effects of transgender HRT.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@danwin1210.de on Fri Feb 11 17:47:21 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change >>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and >>>>>> this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender. >>>>
    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    It doesn't mean that you're cis, non-binary or trans. It's fine, and you >>>>> should, in fact, figure it out before you even think about
    transitioning. You will learn more about yourself in 6 months doing 101% >>>>> reversible stuff than wasting 50 years in front of your CRT.

    Nobody should even THINK about 'transitioning' because, to put it
    bluntly, it's physically impossible.

    Well, it is possible to some degree. For example, estrogen grows your
    breasts, makes your skin smaller, and surgery changes your genitalia or
    body characteristics. Be sure, though - some of these changes are
    irreversible.

    Those changes are, as I've said before, merely superficial/cosmetic.
    You're still the same sex you were born as. You may become a more
    convincing female impersonator as a result of these changes but that's
    all you'll ever be.

    Well, I like the effects of transgender HRT.

    Well, it's not turning you into a woman so whatever you're paying for
    it is totally wasted.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From David@21:1/5 to David on Fri Feb 11 12:33:40 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    "KWills" wrote in message
    news:gicrvghucctlc9ovkikem4c9ml7r7ta52o@4ax.com...

    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 14:55:13 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:

    "%" wrote in message
    news:JoWdnTYtS_hUGWD8nZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com...

    On 2022-02-04 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    Why? We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    he is the fake %

    I get big sometimes and I recently learned to yell extremely loud, here in >Tulsa at 11th & Yale.

    A bad case of Tourette syndrome? Don't try it at 12th & Ferguson.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    I got an adjustment in my meds so it may help with that.

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@danwin1210.de on Fri Feb 11 19:05:10 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:54:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:57:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Being 'trans' is a physical impossibility so talking about it being
    harmful or not is absolutely pointless.

    Yes, it is possible.

    No, it is absolutely impossible, as a DNA test will show.

    It is also a social possibility with changes like
    your name, clothing, make-up, voice training. It's not an all-or-nothing >>> journey - for example, I chose to change my name, clothing, voice and
    left out makeup.

    And at the end of all that, you still won't find a man you can fool
    into thinking you're a woman.

    I don't need to fool anyone that I'm a woman, I'm just one.

    Don't be absurd. Of course you're not. You're a man - a delusional
    one, but still a man. Women don't got dicks!

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned: >>>>>>>>> http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are.

    Ignorant? This from a delusional asshole who rejects the scientific >>>>>> FACTS of DNA! Simply incredible!

    If you believe that we say that "biological sex isn't real", then bingo >>>>> - you just gave yourself away as a TERF.

    I don't care what labels you put on it, reality is reality and
    biological sex is the ONLY sex that matters.

    Well, it matters, when you want to have children, in medicine and in
    sports. College swimmer Lia Thomas has been getting a lot of shit simply >>> because she is a trans woman.

    If this horseshit continues, that's the end of women's sports. There
    will only be unisex sports and the males will always win.

    Well, only the people who are best suited, regardless of their sex,
    should be able to compete.

    And that will almost always be males, except for faggy stuff like
    figure skating and possibly gymnastics.

    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The
    reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you >>>>>> will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off >>>>>> and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.

    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how >>>>> more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting >>>> off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that
    don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or
    taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose.

    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting
    something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your
    body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    There is some amount of estrogen of your body, isn't it? HRT isn't that
    risky as you think according to currently existing research.

    Some is OK, but you're overdosing on massive amounts which can't
    possibly be good.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From David@21:1/5 to David on Fri Feb 11 12:34:28 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    "Scientific (she/her) ⚧" wrote in message
    news:stleqc$71l$1@dont-email.me...

    On 2/4/22 8:55 PM, David wrote:


    "%" wrote in message
    news:JoWdnTYtS_hUGWD8nZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com...

    On 2022-02-04 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    Why? We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    he is the fake %

    I get big sometimes and I recently learned to yell extremely loud, here
    in Tulsa at 11th & Yale.

    Do you live there?

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tulsa,+OK,+USA/@36.1525297,-96.1582101,10z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x87b692b8ddd12e8f:0xe76910c81bd96af7!8m2!3d36.1539816!4d-95.992775?hl=en

    Yes, I've been here. Its nice.

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to David on Fri Feb 11 19:15:57 2022
    XPost: alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression

    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:33:40 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:

    On 2022-02-04 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>
    Why? We don't block any of your delusional shite or report it.

    he is the fake %

    I get big sometimes and I recently learned to yell extremely loud, here in >>>Tulsa at 11th & Yale.

    A bad case of Tourette syndrome? Don't try it at 12th & Ferguson.

    I got an adjustment in my meds so it may help with that.

    You can't medicate away Tourette's - either you got it or you don't
    got it!

    FUCK! SHIT!

    See what I mean?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 09:40:07 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and >>>>>>> this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender. >>>>>
    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.






    Michael Christ




    It doesn't mean that you're cis, non-binary or trans. It's fine, and you >>>>>> should, in fact, figure it out before you even think about
    transitioning. You will learn more about yourself in 6 months doing 101% >>>>>> reversible stuff than wasting 50 years in front of your CRT.

    Nobody should even THINK about 'transitioning' because, to put it
    bluntly, it's physically impossible.

    Well, it is possible to some degree. For example, estrogen grows your
    breasts, makes your skin smaller, and surgery changes your genitalia or >>>> body characteristics. Be sure, though - some of these changes are
    irreversible.

    Those changes are, as I've said before, merely superficial/cosmetic.
    You're still the same sex you were born as. You may become a more
    convincing female impersonator as a result of these changes but that's
    all you'll ever be.

    Well, I like the effects of transgender HRT.

    Well, it's not turning you into a woman so whatever you're paying for
    it is totally wasted.



    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    Jesus is the Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator. So
    no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 11 23:38:28 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>> this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to >legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 18:11:23 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>> this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to >>>> some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us >>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term >>>> is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.




    Michael Christ



    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    Jesus is the Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator. So
    no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From El Kabong@21:1/5 to Michael Christ on Fri Feb 11 23:46:36 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to >>>> some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us >>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term >>>> is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to >> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to El Kabong on Sat Feb 12 19:02:46 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 12/02/2022 6:46 pm, El Kabong wrote:
    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to >>>>>> some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term >>>>>> is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to >>>> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    Knock yourself out, El Bullshit, it ain't gonna last.




    Michael Christ

    --
    Jesus is the Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator. So
    no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From El Kabong@21:1/5 to Michael Christ on Sat Feb 12 00:19:20 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 6:46 pm, El Kabong wrote:
    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to >>>>>> some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to >>>> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is >>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    Knock yourself out, El Bullshit, it ain't gonna last.

    IOW, you lack the faith needed to pull off a bona fide
    christly miracle, so you have to dodge that one.

    With some faith you could move mountains, but you can't
    even morph up a tiny little X chromasome.

    Some might even come to doubt your christness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to El Kabong on Sat Feb 12 20:58:24 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 12/02/2022 7:19 pm, El Kabong wrote:
    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 6:46 pm, El Kabong wrote:
    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to >>>>>>>> some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to >>>>>> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    Knock yourself out, El Bullshit, it ain't gonna last.

    IOW, you lack the faith needed to pull off a bona fide
    christly miracle, so you have to dodge that one.

    With some faith you could move mountains, but you can't
    even morph up a tiny little X chromasome.

    Some might even come to doubt your christness.

    Tick tock.




    Michael Christ

    --
    Jesus is the Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator. So
    no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 12 14:01:01 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to >> >>>> some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us >> >>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term >> >>>> is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to >> >> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. Try a different happy
    clappy nigra church.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 09:17:00 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to >>>>>>> some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term >>>>>>> is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to >>>>> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.



    Try a different happy
    clappy nigra church.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Sat Feb 12 16:56:29 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to >>>>>>>> some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to >>>>>> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to >thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 12:41:17 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 10:20:08 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 12:13:45 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me...

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains >>>>>>>>>>>>>> unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning >>>>>>>>>>>>> their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of >>>>>>>>>>> youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but >>>>>>>>> only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which >>>>>>>> will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect >>>>>>>>>> us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this >>>>>>>>> term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo
    paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he >>>>>>> is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David@21:1/5 to El Kabong on Sat Feb 12 12:22:19 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    "Michael Christ" wrote in message news:su80c0$h70$2@dont-email.me...

    On 12/02/2022 7:19 pm, El Kabong wrote:
    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 6:46 pm, El Kabong wrote:
    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own
    sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains >>>>>>>>>>>>> unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning >>>>>>>>>>>> their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of >>>>>>>>>> youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only >>>>>>>> to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect >>>>>>>>> us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this >>>>>>>> term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm >>>>>> to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    Knock yourself out, El Bullshit, it ain't gonna last.

    IOW, you lack the faith needed to pull off a bona fide
    christly miracle, so you have to dodge that one.

    With some faith you could move mountains, but you can't
    even morph up a tiny little X chromasome.

    Some might even come to doubt your christness.

    Tick tock.




    Michael Christ

    --
    Jesus is the Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator. So
    no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

    I take a med case with me in my pocket for wrong interactions. I hope this helps.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to David on Sat Feb 12 19:28:53 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:22:19 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:



    "Michael Christ" wrote in message news:su80c0$h70$2@dont-email.me...

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    Knock yourself out, El Bullshit, it ain't gonna last.

    IOW, you lack the faith needed to pull off a bona fide
    christly miracle, so you have to dodge that one.

    With some faith you could move mountains, but you can't
    even morph up a tiny little X chromasome.

    Some might even come to doubt your christness.

    Tick tock.

    I take a med case with me in my pocket for wrong interactions. I hope this >helps.

    Well, no, it doesn't. Not at all. Perhaps you filled it with diesel
    instead of gasoline???
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 12 19:29:49 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If >>> we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to >>> thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to David on Sat Feb 12 19:32:50 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:



    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me...

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere >>>> in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If >>>> we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because >>>> we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to >>>> thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how >>>> God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Sat Feb 12 19:30:56 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If >>> we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to >>> thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to
    happen. That is obviously untrue.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 12:31:45 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere >>>> in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If >>>> we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because >>>> we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to >>>> thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how >>>> God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 12:42:04 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:



    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me...

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere >>>>> in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If >>>>> we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because >>>>> we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to >>>>> thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how >>>>> God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    why should he , you don't

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  • From El Kabong@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 12:06:47 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 12 20:14:12 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere >>>>> in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If >>>>> we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because >>>>> we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to >>>>> thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how >>>>> God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic

    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 13:21:07 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:



    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me...

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere >>>>>>> in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because >>>>>>> we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how >>>>>>> God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all >>>>> have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>>>> mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?

    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him
    to. And I do follow the threads.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 12 20:15:33 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:



    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me...

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere >>>>>> in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If >>>>>> we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because >>>>>> we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to >>>>>> thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how >>>>>> God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>> its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all >>>> have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?

    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him
    to. And I do follow the threads.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 13:19:51 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere >>>>>> in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If >>>>>> we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because >>>>>> we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to >>>>>> thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how >>>>>> God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>> its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic

    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 15:28:58 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere >>>> in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If >>>> we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because >>>> we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to >>>> thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how >>>> God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to
    happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    Are we clear?

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 12 22:20:00 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:



    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me...

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all >>>>>> have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>>>>> mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?

    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him
    to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 12 22:19:15 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>>>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere >>>>>>> in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because >>>>>>> we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how >>>>>>> God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>> its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic

    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and
    tried to change the topic.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 15:21:32 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 3:20 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:



    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me...

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>>>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all >>>>>>> have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>>>>>> mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?

    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him
    to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    no , it's not that , in fact it's pretty nice and ,
    likely more than you could afford

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 15:24:16 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic

    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and
    tried to change the topic.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Sat Feb 12 22:25:39 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere >>>>> in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If >>>>> we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because >>>>> we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to >>>>> thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how >>>>> God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to
    happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The >evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this >suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Are WE clear?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 12 22:26:20 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 12 22:42:35 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>>>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic

    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and
    tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion.

    You talk heap shit.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 12 22:43:36 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:21:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:20 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote: >>>>>>


    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me...

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all >>>>>>>> have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>>>>>>> mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?

    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him
    to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.

    no , it's not that , in fact it's pretty nice and ,
    likely more than you could afford

    It's exactly that and it's in Tulsa which nobody in their right mind
    would want to live in.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 15:54:11 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic

    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and
    tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion.

    You talk heap shit.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    this is good now you've changed the topic on your original topic change
    and the original topic a topic and two topic changes in one thread ,
    yea , i talk heap alright but lets look at you ,
    according to you everything has to have a dick and ,
    you can't retain a thought long enough to make a second reply to it and
    i talk heap , you got a lot to learn about heap

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPKBOBYzb28&t=17s

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 16:09:09 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 3:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:21:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:20 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote: >>>>>>>


    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me...

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>>>>>>>> mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?

    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him
    to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.

    no , it's not that , in fact it's pretty nice and ,
    likely more than you could afford

    It's exactly that and it's in Tulsa which nobody in their right mind
    would want to live in.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    like he has a choice

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 16:07:46 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic

    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and
    tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion.

    You talk heap shit.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    it doesn't matter why you said it , you said it ,
    and then you denied you said it now you're explaining why you said it

    https://i.etsystatic.com/24967786/r/il/43146c/2790792660/il_1588xN.2790792660_lkjf.jpg

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 12 23:42:07 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:09:09 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:21:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:20 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote: >>>>>>>>


    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me...

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>>>>>>>>> mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?

    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him >>>>>> to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.

    no , it's not that , in fact it's pretty nice and ,
    likely more than you could afford

    It's exactly that and it's in Tulsa which nobody in their right mind
    would want to live in.

    like he has a choice

    If it's that hard to afford the place he's in and he can afford it,
    why doesn't he go elsewhere? Because he's locked up!
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 12 23:39:44 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:54:11 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic

    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and
    tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion.

    You talk heap shit.

    this is good now you've changed the topic on your original topic change
    and the original topic a topic and two topic changes in one thread ,
    yea , i talk heap alright but lets look at you ,
    according to you everything has to have a dick and ,
    you can't retain a thought long enough to make a second reply to it and
    i talk heap , you got a lot to learn about heap

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPKBOBYzb28&t=17s

    That sounds like doubleplus shit, even by your standards.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sat Feb 12 23:41:00 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:07:46 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic

    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and
    tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion.

    You talk heap shit.

    it doesn't matter why you said it , you said it ,
    and then you denied you said it now you're explaining why you said it

    https://i.etsystatic.com/24967786/r/il/43146c/2790792660/il_1588xN.2790792660_lkjf.jpg

    You're confused. You should be a 'transgender'. Does it really take
    two replies to one post to get your scrambled brain together?

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 16:56:29 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 4:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:09:09 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:21:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:20 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote: >>>>>>>>>


    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me...

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?

    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him >>>>>>> to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.

    no , it's not that , in fact it's pretty nice and ,
    likely more than you could afford

    It's exactly that and it's in Tulsa which nobody in their right mind
    would want to live in.

    like he has a choice

    If it's that hard to afford the place he's in and he can afford it,
    why doesn't he go elsewhere? Because he's locked up!
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    no one said he's not

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 16:57:35 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 4:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:07:46 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic

    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and
    tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion.

    You talk heap shit.

    it doesn't matter why you said it , you said it ,
    and then you denied you said it now you're explaining why you said it

    https://i.etsystatic.com/24967786/r/il/43146c/2790792660/il_1588xN.2790792660_lkjf.jpg

    You're confused. You should be a 'transgender'. Does it really take
    two replies to one post to get your scrambled brain together?

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    you're off topic

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 19:34:39 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere >>>>>> in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If >>>>>> we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because >>>>>> we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to >>>>>> thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how >>>>>> God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>> its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all >>>> have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to
    happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission. If
    it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good >>from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view. I only have my personal spiritual view based on my understanding of the teaching of Jesus. When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.


    Are WE clear?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 13 01:16:57 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:57:35 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 4:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:07:46 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic >>>>>>>>
    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and >>>>>> tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>> its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion.

    You talk heap shit.

    it doesn't matter why you said it , you said it ,
    and then you denied you said it now you're explaining why you said it

    https://i.etsystatic.com/24967786/r/il/43146c/2790792660/il_1588xN.2790792660_lkjf.jpg

    You're confused. You should be a 'transgender'. Does it really take
    two replies to one post to get your scrambled brain together?

    you're off topic

    Nothing could be more ON topic on alt.trangendered.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 13 01:17:54 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:56:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 4:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:09:09 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:21:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:20 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>


    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>>>>
    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?

    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him >>>>>>>> to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.

    no , it's not that , in fact it's pretty nice and ,
    likely more than you could afford

    It's exactly that and it's in Tulsa which nobody in their right mind
    would want to live in.

    like he has a choice

    If it's that hard to afford the place he's in and he can afford it,
    why doesn't he go elsewhere? Because he's locked up!

    no one said he's not

    And why would they lock someone up in a 'head injury place'? Because
    it's a nuthouse and they need to protect the public.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 01:22:10 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>>>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere >>>>>>> in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because >>>>>>> we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how >>>>>>> God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all >>>>> have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>>>> mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to
    happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off
    approach.

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same >permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be.

    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good >>>from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God
    create something like that?

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 18:30:40 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 6:16 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:56:59 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 4:39 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:54:11 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic >>>>>>>>>
    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and >>>>>>> tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion.

    You talk heap shit.

    this is good now you've changed the topic on your original topic change >>>> and the original topic a topic and two topic changes in one thread ,
    yea , i talk heap alright but lets look at you ,
    according to you everything has to have a dick and ,
    you can't retain a thought long enough to make a second reply to it and >>>> i talk heap , you got a lot to learn about heap

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPKBOBYzb28&t=17s

    That sounds like doubleplus shit, even by your standards.

    you said heap so i heeped

    You heap without anyone needing to tell you to.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    yea , so

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 18:33:21 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 6:17 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:56:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 4:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:09:09 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:21:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:20 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>


    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>>>>>
    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?

    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him >>>>>>>>> to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.

    no , it's not that , in fact it's pretty nice and ,
    likely more than you could afford

    It's exactly that and it's in Tulsa which nobody in their right mind >>>>> would want to live in.

    like he has a choice

    If it's that hard to afford the place he's in and he can afford it,
    why doesn't he go elsewhere? Because he's locked up!

    no one said he's not

    And why would they lock someone up in a 'head injury place'? Because
    it's a nuthouse and they need to protect the public.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    it's also to keep people out

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 18:31:29 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 6:16 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:57:35 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 4:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:07:46 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic >>>>>>>>>
    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and >>>>>>> tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion.

    You talk heap shit.

    it doesn't matter why you said it , you said it ,
    and then you denied you said it now you're explaining why you said it

    https://i.etsystatic.com/24967786/r/il/43146c/2790792660/il_1588xN.2790792660_lkjf.jpg

    You're confused. You should be a 'transgender'. Does it really take
    two replies to one post to get your scrambled brain together?

    you're off topic

    Nothing could be more ON topic on alt.trangendered.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    you're going more places than that and you're still off topic

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 22:57:55 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all >>>>>> have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>>>>> mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to
    happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The >>>> evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this >>>> suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in
    heaven either.



    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that?


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From El Kabong@21:1/5 to KWills on Sat Feb 12 20:59:56 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

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  • From Michael Christ@21:1/5 to El Kabong on Sun Feb 13 18:15:13 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 13/02/2022 7:06 am, El Kabong wrote:
    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    Choice.

    But He does interfere in your life if you ask Him too.

    Hey, I am a recipient of that, El Bullshit. If I didn't ask I'd be as
    fucked up as you are.

    Each to their own choice.





    Michael Christ

    --
    Jesus is the Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

    Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
    YET sinners, Christ died for us.

    Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
    is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

    "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

    "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

    "Sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

    "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

    "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
    God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination."

    "Compromise will condemn you."

    "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

    "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

    "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
    know that?"

    "The way of truth is the testimony of life."

    "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
    where God intends."

    "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

    "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
    live, by faith."

    "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

    "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
    ahead."

    "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

    "Priority is everything."

    "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

    "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
    it or to place it where it truly belongs."

    "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

    "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely a straw man, to a straw man."

    "Wait, rest, be still, and know."

    "No man can wash his own hands!!!"

    "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
    and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

    The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator. So
    no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

    "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

    "Man is not the centre of being."

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 13 12:47:58 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:33:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 6:17 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:56:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 4:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:09:09 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:21:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:20 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:



    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>>>>>>
    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally?

    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?

    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him >>>>>>>>>> to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.

    no , it's not that , in fact it's pretty nice and ,
    likely more than you could afford

    It's exactly that and it's in Tulsa which nobody in their right mind >>>>>> would want to live in.

    like he has a choice

    If it's that hard to afford the place he's in and he can afford it,
    why doesn't he go elsewhere? Because he's locked up!

    no one said he's not

    And why would they lock someone up in a 'head injury place'? Because
    it's a nuthouse and they need to protect the public.

    it's also to keep people out

    Why would anyone try to get IN to a fucking nuthouse???
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 13 12:48:24 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:33:56 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 6:22 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>>>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all >>>>>>> have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>>>>>> mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to >>>>>> happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The >>>>> evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this >>>>> suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven. >>>> And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off
    approach.

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be.

    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good >>>> >from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a >>>>> wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God
    create something like that?

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human >>>>> sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human >>>>> sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just >>>> about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    did your google break

    I expect the people who make the claim to try to back it up with a
    cite.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 13 12:49:25 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 12:49:13 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we >>>>>>>>> will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all >>>>>>> have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>>>>>> mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to >>>>>> happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The >>>>> evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this >>>>> suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven. >>>> And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not? God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good >>>> >from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a >>>>> wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that?

    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as
    well as bad things.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human >>>>> sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human >>>>> sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just >>>> about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 07:34:29 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 5:47 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:30:40 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 6:16 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:56:59 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 4:39 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:54:11 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic >>>>>>>>>>>
    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and >>>>>>>>> tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion. >>>>>>>
    You talk heap shit.

    this is good now you've changed the topic on your original topic change >>>>>> and the original topic a topic and two topic changes in one thread , >>>>>> yea , i talk heap alright but lets look at you ,
    according to you everything has to have a dick and ,
    you can't retain a thought long enough to make a second reply to it and >>>>>> i talk heap , you got a lot to learn about heap

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPKBOBYzb28&t=17s

    That sounds like doubleplus shit, even by your standards.

    you said heap so i heeped

    You heap without anyone needing to tell you to.

    yea , so

    A LOT of heap.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    a lot of you off topic

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 07:35:53 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 5:47 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:31:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 6:16 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:57:35 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 4:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:07:46 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic >>>>>>>>>>>
    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and >>>>>>>>> tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some >>>>>>>> horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion. >>>>>>>
    You talk heap shit.

    it doesn't matter why you said it , you said it ,
    and then you denied you said it now you're explaining why you said it >>>>>>
    https://i.etsystatic.com/24967786/r/il/43146c/2790792660/il_1588xN.2790792660_lkjf.jpg

    You're confused. You should be a 'transgender'. Does it really take >>>>> two replies to one post to get your scrambled brain together?

    you're off topic

    Nothing could be more ON topic on alt.trangendered.

    you're going more places than that and you're still off topic

    How is it off topic, heapmonger?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    if i answer that i'll have to go off topic

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 07:36:49 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 5:47 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:33:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 6:17 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:56:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 4:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:09:09 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:21:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:20 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:



    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?

    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him >>>>>>>>>>> to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.

    no , it's not that , in fact it's pretty nice and ,
    likely more than you could afford

    It's exactly that and it's in Tulsa which nobody in their right mind >>>>>>> would want to live in.

    like he has a choice

    If it's that hard to afford the place he's in and he can afford it,
    why doesn't he go elsewhere? Because he's locked up!

    no one said he's not

    And why would they lock someone up in a 'head injury place'? Because
    it's a nuthouse and they need to protect the public.

    it's also to keep people out

    Why would anyone try to get IN to a fucking nuthouse???
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    to murder people inside that may have murdered people outside

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 09:40:31 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all >>>>>>>> have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>>>>>>> mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to >>>>>>> happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The >>>>>> evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this >>>>>> suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven. >>>>> And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good >>>>> >from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a >>>>>> wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God. >>>
    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that?

    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human >>>>>> sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human >>>>>> sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just >>>>> about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.


    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 18:28:52 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>>>>>>>> mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to >>>>>>>> happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The >>>>>>> evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this >>>>>>> suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven. >>>>>> And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission. >>>>
    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same >>>>> permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all. Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about
    faith.

    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good >>>>>> >from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a >>>>>>> wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God. >>>>
    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that?

    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human >>>>>>> sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human >>>>>>> sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God. >>>>
    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just >>>>>> about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 13 18:23:03 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 07:36:49 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 5:47 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:33:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 6:17 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:56:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 4:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:09:09 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:21:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:20 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:



    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once?

    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him
    to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.

    no , it's not that , in fact it's pretty nice and ,
    likely more than you could afford

    It's exactly that and it's in Tulsa which nobody in their right mind >>>>>>>> would want to live in.

    like he has a choice

    If it's that hard to afford the place he's in and he can afford it, >>>>>> why doesn't he go elsewhere? Because he's locked up!

    no one said he's not

    And why would they lock someone up in a 'head injury place'? Because
    it's a nuthouse and they need to protect the public.

    it's also to keep people out

    Why would anyone try to get IN to a fucking nuthouse???

    to murder people inside that may have murdered people outside

    How many of these 'head injury' cases have actually murdered people
    outside? Is David one of them?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 13 18:21:15 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 07:35:53 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 5:47 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:31:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 6:16 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:57:35 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 4:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:07:46 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic >>>>>>>>>>>>
    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and >>>>>>>>>> tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion. >>>>>>>>
    You talk heap shit.

    it doesn't matter why you said it , you said it ,
    and then you denied you said it now you're explaining why you said it >>>>>>>
    https://i.etsystatic.com/24967786/r/il/43146c/2790792660/il_1588xN.2790792660_lkjf.jpg

    You're confused. You should be a 'transgender'. Does it really take >>>>>> two replies to one post to get your scrambled brain together?

    you're off topic

    Nothing could be more ON topic on alt.trangendered.

    you're going more places than that and you're still off topic

    How is it off topic, heapmonger?

    if i answer that i'll have to go off topic

    In other words, you have no answer. As expected.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 13 18:20:34 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 07:34:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 5:47 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:30:40 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 6:16 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:56:59 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 4:39 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:54:11 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic >>>>>>>>>>>>
    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and >>>>>>>>>> tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion. >>>>>>>>
    You talk heap shit.

    this is good now you've changed the topic on your original topic change >>>>>>> and the original topic a topic and two topic changes in one thread , >>>>>>> yea , i talk heap alright but lets look at you ,
    according to you everything has to have a dick and ,
    you can't retain a thought long enough to make a second reply to it and >>>>>>> i talk heap , you got a lot to learn about heap

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPKBOBYzb28&t=17s

    That sounds like doubleplus shit, even by your standards.

    you said heap so i heeped

    You heap without anyone needing to tell you to.

    yea , so

    A LOT of heap.

    a lot of you off topic

    Never once.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 11:39:00 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 11:20 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 07:34:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 5:47 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:30:40 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 6:16 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:56:59 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 4:39 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:54:11 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may

    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and >>>>>>>>>>> tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take >>>>>>>>>> its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion. >>>>>>>>>
    You talk heap shit.

    this is good now you've changed the topic on your original topic change
    and the original topic a topic and two topic changes in one thread , >>>>>>>> yea , i talk heap alright but lets look at you ,
    according to you everything has to have a dick and ,
    you can't retain a thought long enough to make a second reply to it and
    i talk heap , you got a lot to learn about heap

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPKBOBYzb28&t=17s

    That sounds like doubleplus shit, even by your standards.

    you said heap so i heeped

    You heap without anyone needing to tell you to.

    yea , so

    A LOT of heap.

    a lot of you off topic

    Never once.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    you already lost that game

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 13 19:07:36 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:39:00 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 11:20 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 07:34:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 5:47 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:30:40 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 6:16 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:56:59 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 4:39 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:54:11 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and >>>>>>>>>>>> tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion. >>>>>>>>>>
    You talk heap shit.

    this is good now you've changed the topic on your original topic change
    and the original topic a topic and two topic changes in one thread , >>>>>>>>> yea , i talk heap alright but lets look at you ,
    according to you everything has to have a dick and ,
    you can't retain a thought long enough to make a second reply to it and
    i talk heap , you got a lot to learn about heap

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPKBOBYzb28&t=17s

    That sounds like doubleplus shit, even by your standards.

    you said heap so i heeped

    You heap without anyone needing to tell you to.

    yea , so

    A LOT of heap.

    a lot of you off topic

    Never once.

    you already lost that game

    According to you, and who's gonna believe a fake %?
    --
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    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 13 19:09:03 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:39:56 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 11:23 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 07:36:49 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 5:47 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:33:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 6:17 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:56:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 4:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:09:09 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:21:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:20 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:



    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him
    to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.

    no , it's not that , in fact it's pretty nice and ,
    likely more than you could afford

    It's exactly that and it's in Tulsa which nobody in their right mind >>>>>>>>>> would want to live in.

    like he has a choice

    If it's that hard to afford the place he's in and he can afford it, >>>>>>>> why doesn't he go elsewhere? Because he's locked up!

    no one said he's not

    And why would they lock someone up in a 'head injury place'? Because >>>>>> it's a nuthouse and they need to protect the public.

    it's also to keep people out

    Why would anyone try to get IN to a fucking nuthouse???

    to murder people inside that may have murdered people outside

    How many of these 'head injury' cases have actually murdered people
    outside? Is David one of them?

    is your google broken

    Your claim, your substantiation, sunshine.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 13 19:08:15 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:39:24 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 11:21 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 07:35:53 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 5:47 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:31:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 6:16 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:57:35 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 4:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:07:46 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:24:16 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:19 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:19:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:14 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:31:45 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:29 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:20:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 9:56 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    here he goes again catching any come what may >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's "He" not "he" infidel.

    and if you point out that he catches come he changes the topic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And who changed the topic to catching? Fake %!

    it was what you were talking about i was on topic ,
    and you've done everything but stick to the topic ,
    duck n dodge kwills

    I never mentioned catching, you were the one who brought it up and >>>>>>>>>>>> tried to change the topic.

    here's a quote of you not saying what you said

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That's after someone else introduced theology into the discussion. >>>>>>>>>>
    You talk heap shit.

    it doesn't matter why you said it , you said it ,
    and then you denied you said it now you're explaining why you said it >>>>>>>>>
    https://i.etsystatic.com/24967786/r/il/43146c/2790792660/il_1588xN.2790792660_lkjf.jpg

    You're confused. You should be a 'transgender'. Does it really take >>>>>>>> two replies to one post to get your scrambled brain together?

    you're off topic

    Nothing could be more ON topic on alt.trangendered.

    you're going more places than that and you're still off topic

    How is it off topic, heapmonger?

    if i answer that i'll have to go off topic

    In other words, you have no answer. As expected.

    you're off topic

    You can't tell me why because you don't even know.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 13 19:28:35 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 12:16:08 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 12:09 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:39:56 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 11:23 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 07:36:49 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 5:47 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:33:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 6:17 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:56:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 4:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:09:09 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:21:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 3:20 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:



    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him
    to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.

    no , it's not that , in fact it's pretty nice and ,
    likely more than you could afford

    It's exactly that and it's in Tulsa which nobody in their right mind
    would want to live in.

    like he has a choice

    If it's that hard to afford the place he's in and he can afford it, >>>>>>>>>> why doesn't he go elsewhere? Because he's locked up!

    no one said he's not

    And why would they lock someone up in a 'head injury place'? Because >>>>>>>> it's a nuthouse and they need to protect the public.

    it's also to keep people out

    Why would anyone try to get IN to a fucking nuthouse???

    to murder people inside that may have murdered people outside

    How many of these 'head injury' cases have actually murdered people
    outside? Is David one of them?

    is your google broken

    Your claim, your substantiation, sunshine.

    you asked the question you go get the answer , moonlight

    No, you claimed that there may have been people inside that murdered
    people outside. Support your claim or admit you made it up.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 12:16:08 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 12:09 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:39:56 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 11:23 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 07:36:49 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 5:47 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:33:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 6:17 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:56:29 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 4:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:09:09 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:21:32 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 3:20 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 13:21:07 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 1:15 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:42:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 12:32 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:13:45 -0600, "David" <dd@davidd.info> wrote:



    "aaa" wrote in message news:su8spn$7qk$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    can you recommend a good insurance company locally? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Can you TRY to follow a fucking thread for once? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    why should he , you don't

    He should because it's annoying and he's mental and I'm telling him
    to. And I do follow the threads.

    you're expecting a little much from ,
    a guy that lives in a head injury place

    Head injury place? Loonybin more like.

    no , it's not that , in fact it's pretty nice and ,
    likely more than you could afford

    It's exactly that and it's in Tulsa which nobody in their right mind
    would want to live in.

    like he has a choice

    If it's that hard to afford the place he's in and he can afford it, >>>>>>>>> why doesn't he go elsewhere? Because he's locked up!

    no one said he's not

    And why would they lock someone up in a 'head injury place'? Because >>>>>>> it's a nuthouse and they need to protect the public.

    it's also to keep people out

    Why would anyone try to get IN to a fucking nuthouse???

    to murder people inside that may have murdered people outside

    How many of these 'head injury' cases have actually murdered people
    outside? Is David one of them?

    is your google broken

    Your claim, your substantiation, sunshine.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    you asked the question you go get the answer , moonlight

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  • From El Kabong@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 11:22:32 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 14:46:25 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved >>>>>>>>>>> of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own >>>>>>>>>> mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to >>>>>>>>> happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven. >>>>>>> And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission. >>>>>
    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same >>>>>> permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in >>>> heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all. Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good >>>>>>> >from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a >>>>>>>> wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God. >>>>>
    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that?

    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human >>>>>>>> sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human >>>>>>>> sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God. >>>>>
    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses >>>>> no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone, >>>> and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just >>>>>>> about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it. >>>>>
    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From %@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 13:30:51 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong
    <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned".

    No, it is not.  We dismiss your attempts to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own sublanguages and
    this is a good example.  Mainstream English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make superficial/cosmetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense.  In >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God >>>>>>>>>>>>> does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything >>>>>>>>>>>>> without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why >>>>>>>>>>>>> we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe >>>>>>>>>>>>> this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings have >>>>>>>>>>>> achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have >>>>>>>>>>>> approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He lets >>>>>>>>>>>> Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is >>>>>>>>>>> why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for >>>>>>>>>>> our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything >>>>>>>>>> bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly >>>>>>>>> true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same >>>>>>>>> as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in >>>>>>>> heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine
    permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same >>>>>>> permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be. >>>>>
    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in >>>>> heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be
    anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is >>>>>>>> just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing
    without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why would God >>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of >>>>>>>>> human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of >>>>>>>>> human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to >>>>>>> God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He chooses >>>>>> no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone, >>>>> and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't interfere.  He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been discounted >>>>>>>> by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good >>>>> for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it. >>>>>>
    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 20:59:16 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:46:25 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to >>>>>>>>>> happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven. >>>>>>>> And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission. >>>>>>
    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same >>>>>>> permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be. >>>>>
    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in >>>>> heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all. Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a >>>>>>>>> wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that?

    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human >>>>>>>>> sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human >>>>>>>>> sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God. >>>>>>
    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses >>>>>> no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone, >>>>> and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just >>>>>>>> about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good >>>>> for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it. >>>>>>
    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 13 21:00:11 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 21:11:00 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2/11/22 19:05, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:54:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:57:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Being 'trans' is a physical impossibility so talking about it being
    harmful or not is absolutely pointless.

    Yes, it is possible.

    No, it is absolutely impossible, as a DNA test will show.

    It is also a social possibility with changes like
    your name, clothing, make-up, voice training. It's not an all-or-nothing >>>> journey - for example, I chose to change my name, clothing, voice and
    left out makeup.

    And at the end of all that, you still won't find a man you can fool
    into thinking you're a woman.

    I don't need to fool anyone that I'm a woman, I'm just one.

    Don't be absurd. Of course you're not. You're a man - a delusional
    one, but still a man. Women don't got dicks!

    Unless they're trans women.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned:
    http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are.

    Ignorant? This from a delusional asshole who rejects the scientific >>>>>>> FACTS of DNA! Simply incredible!

    If you believe that we say that "biological sex isn't real", then bingo >>>>>> - you just gave yourself away as a TERF.

    I don't care what labels you put on it, reality is reality and
    biological sex is the ONLY sex that matters.

    Well, it matters, when you want to have children, in medicine and in
    sports. College swimmer Lia Thomas has been getting a lot of shit simply >>>> because she is a trans woman.

    If this horseshit continues, that's the end of women's sports. There
    will only be unisex sports and the males will always win.

    Well, only the people who are best suited, regardless of their sex,
    should be able to compete.

    And that will almost always be males, except for faggy stuff like
    figure skating and possibly gymnastics.

    Figure skating and women's gymnastics is one of exceptions where women
    have it better.

    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The >>>>>>> reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you >>>>>>> will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off >>>>>>> and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.

    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how >>>>>> more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting >>>>> off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that
    don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or
    taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose. >>>
    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting
    something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your
    body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    There is some amount of estrogen of your body, isn't it? HRT isn't that
    risky as you think according to currently existing research.

    Some is OK, but you're overdosing on massive amounts which can't
    possibly be good.

    Blood clotting is rare, but it happens.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 16:25:05 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 15:59, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:46:25 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to >>>>>>>>>>> happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission. >>>>>>>
    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same >>>>>>>> permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be. >>>>>>
    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in >>>>>> heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all. Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?



    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is >>>> no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a >>>>>>>>>> wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God >>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>
    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human >>>>>>>>>> sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God. >>>>>>>
    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses >>>>>>> no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone, >>>>>> and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great >>>> wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good >>>>>> for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it. >>>>>>>
    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 13 21:42:45 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 13:30:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong
    <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned".

    No, it is not.  We dismiss your attempts to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own sublanguages and
    this is a good example.  Mainstream English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make superficial/cosmetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense.  In >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>> without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings have >>>>>>>>>>>>> achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have >>>>>>>>>>>>> approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He lets >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is >>>>>>>>>>>> why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for >>>>>>>>>>>> our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything >>>>>>>>>>> bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly >>>>>>>>>> true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same >>>>>>>>>> as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in >>>>>>>>> heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine
    permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same >>>>>>>> permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be. >>>>>>
    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in >>>>>> heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is >>>> no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be
    anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is >>>>>>>>> just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing
    without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why would God >>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>
    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of >>>>>>>>>> human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of >>>>>>>>>> human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to >>>>>>>> God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He chooses >>>>>>> no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone, >>>>>> and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't interfere.  He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great >>>> wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been discounted >>>>>>>>> by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good >>>>>> for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it. >>>>>>>
    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    Nobody saw it because it didn't happen. And you're off-topic...again!
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 13 16:18:24 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong
    <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have successfully >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned".

    No, it is not.  We dismiss your attempts to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make superficial/cosmetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>> without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings have >>>>>>>>>>>>> achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have >>>>>>>>>>>>> approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He lets >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is >>>>>>>>>>>> why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for >>>>>>>>>>>> our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything >>>>>>>>>>> bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly >>>>>>>>>> true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the >>>>>>>>>> same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in >>>>>>>>> heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine
    permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the >>>>>>>> same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be. >>>>>>
    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to
    happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is >>>> no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be
    anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is >>>>>>>>> just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing
    without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why would God >>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>
    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone
    to do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of >>>>>>>>>> human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result >>>>>>>>>> of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back >>>>>>>> to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He chooses >>>>>>> no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for
    everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't interfere.  He >>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great >>>> wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been discounted >>>>>>>>> by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good >>>>>> for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on >>>>>>>> it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From %@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 15:01:38 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 2:18 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong
    <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned".

    No, it is not.  We dismiss your attempts to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative effects >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make superficial/cosmetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He lets >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is >>>>>>>>>>>>> why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible >>>>>>>>>>>>> for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything >>>>>>>>>>>> bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly >>>>>>>>>>> true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the >>>>>>>>>>> same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in >>>>>>>>>> heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine
    permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the >>>>>>>>> same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be. >>>>>>>
    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to
    happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means
    there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is >>>>>>>>>> just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing
    without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why would God >>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>>
    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone
    to do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence >>>>>>>>>>> of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result >>>>>>>>>>> of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back >>>>>>>>> to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He
    chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for
    everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't interfere.  He >>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great >>>>> wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been discounted >>>>>>>>>> by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's >>>>>>> good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious. >>>>
    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 15:03:05 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 2:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 13:30:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong
    <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have successfully >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned".

    No, it is not.  We dismiss your attempts to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly changing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative effects >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own sublanguages and
    this is a good example.  Mainstream English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make superficial/cosmetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense.  In >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He lets >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is >>>>>>>>>>>>> why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for >>>>>>>>>>>>> our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything >>>>>>>>>>>> bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly >>>>>>>>>>> true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same >>>>>>>>>>> as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in >>>>>>>>>> heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine
    permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same >>>>>>>>> permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be. >>>>>>>
    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in >>>>>>> heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is >>>>> no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is >>>>>>>>>> just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing
    without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why would God >>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>>
    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of >>>>>>>>>>> human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of >>>>>>>>>>> human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to >>>>>>>>> God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He chooses >>>>>>>> no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone, >>>>>>> and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't interfere.  He >>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great >>>>> wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been discounted >>>>>>>>>> by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good >>>>>>> for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious. >>>>
    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it. >>>>>>>>
    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    Nobody saw it because it didn't happen. And you're off-topic...again!
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    this guy saw it and says so at the end

    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org>
    wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org>
    wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific
    (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific
    (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000,
    Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000,
    Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000,
    Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific
    (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the
    shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™
    because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have
    successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts
    to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian
    TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly
    changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative
    effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/

    Subcultures such as yours have always had
    their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English
    usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who
    is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans'
    neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has
    garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of
    you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex to
    the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic
    changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an
    impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes.

    They are free to make up words which they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves
    and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak.

    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a
    "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit.

    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into
    their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense.
    In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not
    going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God
    does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish
    anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the
    right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is
    why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I
    believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not
    have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets
    Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It
    is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible
    for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow
    anything bad to
    happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and
    perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the
    same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be
    in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine
    permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by
    the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to
    happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all. Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means
    there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be
    anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved
    is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing
    without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that?

    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone
    to do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence
    of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result
    of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back
    to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He
    chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for
    everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been
    discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's
    good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 23:37:08 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:25:05 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 15:59, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:46:25 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to
    happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission. >>>>>>>>
    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same >>>>>>>>> permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be. >>>>>>>
    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in >>>>>>> heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all. Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is >>>>> no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God >>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>>
    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses >>>>>>>> no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone, >>>>>>> and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He >>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great >>>>> wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good >>>>>>> for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious. >>>>
    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the >faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it. >>>>>>>>
    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Sun Feb 13 23:32:19 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 15:03:05 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 2:42 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 13:30:51 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have successfully >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned".

    No, it is not.  We dismiss your attempts to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly changing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative effects >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own sublanguages and
    this is a good example.  Mainstream English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make superficial/cosmetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense.  In >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He lets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything >>>>>>>>>>>>> bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly >>>>>>>>>>>> true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same >>>>>>>>>>>> as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in >>>>>>>>>>> heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine
    permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same >>>>>>>>>> permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be. >>>>>>>>
    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in >>>>>>>> heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is >>>>>> no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is >>>>>>>>>>> just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing >>>>>>>>>> without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why would God >>>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>>>
    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to >>>> do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of >>>>>>>>>>>> human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of >>>>>>>>>>>> human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to >>>>>>>>>> God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He chooses >>>>>>>>> no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone, >>>>>>>> and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't interfere.  He >>>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great >>>>>> wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been discounted >>>>>>>>>>> by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good >>>>>>>> for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious. >>>>>
    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it. >>>>>>>>>
    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    Nobody saw it because it didn't happen. And you're off-topic...again!

    this guy saw it and says so at the end

    He's just being patronising and pandering to your delusions.

    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@danwin1210.de on Sun Feb 13 23:43:52 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 21:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/11/22 19:05, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:54:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:57:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Being 'trans' is a physical impossibility so talking about it being >>>>>> harmful or not is absolutely pointless.

    Yes, it is possible.

    No, it is absolutely impossible, as a DNA test will show.

    It is also a social possibility with changes like
    your name, clothing, make-up, voice training. It's not an all-or-nothing >>>>> journey - for example, I chose to change my name, clothing, voice and >>>>> left out makeup.

    And at the end of all that, you still won't find a man you can fool
    into thinking you're a woman.

    I don't need to fool anyone that I'm a woman, I'm just one.

    Don't be absurd. Of course you're not. You're a man - a delusional
    one, but still a man. Women don't got dicks!

    Unless they're trans women.

    No such creatures exist in reality.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned: >>>>>>>>>>> http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are.

    Ignorant? This from a delusional asshole who rejects the scientific >>>>>>>> FACTS of DNA! Simply incredible!

    If you believe that we say that "biological sex isn't real", then bingo >>>>>>> - you just gave yourself away as a TERF.

    I don't care what labels you put on it, reality is reality and
    biological sex is the ONLY sex that matters.

    Well, it matters, when you want to have children, in medicine and in >>>>> sports. College swimmer Lia Thomas has been getting a lot of shit simply >>>>> because she is a trans woman.

    If this horseshit continues, that's the end of women's sports. There
    will only be unisex sports and the males will always win.

    Well, only the people who are best suited, regardless of their sex,
    should be able to compete.

    And that will almost always be males, except for faggy stuff like
    figure skating and possibly gymnastics.

    Figure skating and women's gymnastics is one of exceptions where women
    have it better.

    Precisely. And that may be all.

    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The >>>>>>>> reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you >>>>>>>> will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off >>>>>>>> and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.

    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting >>>>>> off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that >>>>>> don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or >>>>> taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose. >>>>
    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting
    something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your
    body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    There is some amount of estrogen of your body, isn't it? HRT isn't that
    risky as you think according to currently existing research.

    Some is OK, but you're overdosing on massive amounts which can't
    possibly be good.

    Blood clotting is rare, but it happens.

    It's relatively new, so it's probably causing other side effects that
    we don't even know about yet.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 17:25:13 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 4:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 21:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/11/22 19:05, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:54:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:57:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Being 'trans' is a physical impossibility so talking about it being >>>>>>> harmful or not is absolutely pointless.

    Yes, it is possible.

    No, it is absolutely impossible, as a DNA test will show.

    It is also a social possibility with changes like
    your name, clothing, make-up, voice training. It's not an all-or-nothing >>>>>> journey - for example, I chose to change my name, clothing, voice and >>>>>> left out makeup.

    And at the end of all that, you still won't find a man you can fool
    into thinking you're a woman.

    I don't need to fool anyone that I'm a woman, I'm just one.

    Don't be absurd. Of course you're not. You're a man - a delusional
    one, but still a man. Women don't got dicks!

    Unless they're trans women.

    No such creatures exist in reality.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are.

    Ignorant? This from a delusional asshole who rejects the scientific >>>>>>>>> FACTS of DNA! Simply incredible!

    If you believe that we say that "biological sex isn't real", then bingo
    - you just gave yourself away as a TERF.

    I don't care what labels you put on it, reality is reality and
    biological sex is the ONLY sex that matters.

    Well, it matters, when you want to have children, in medicine and in >>>>>> sports. College swimmer Lia Thomas has been getting a lot of shit simply >>>>>> because she is a trans woman.

    If this horseshit continues, that's the end of women's sports. There >>>>> will only be unisex sports and the males will always win.

    Well, only the people who are best suited, regardless of their sex,
    should be able to compete.

    And that will almost always be males, except for faggy stuff like
    figure skating and possibly gymnastics.

    Figure skating and women's gymnastics is one of exceptions where women
    have it better.

    Precisely. And that may be all.

    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The >>>>>>>>> reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you >>>>>>>>> will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.

    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting >>>>>>> off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that >>>>>>> don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or >>>>>> taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose. >>>>>
    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting
    something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your
    body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    There is some amount of estrogen of your body, isn't it? HRT isn't that >>>> risky as you think according to currently existing research.

    Some is OK, but you're overdosing on massive amounts which can't
    possibly be good.

    Blood clotting is rare, but it happens.

    It's relatively new, so it's probably causing other side effects that
    we don't even know about yet.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    it made you nuts

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 19:41:51 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 18:37, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:25:05 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 15:59, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:46:25 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to
    happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same >>>>>>>>>> permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be. >>>>>>>>
    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in >>>>>>>> heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all. Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's
    applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?



    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is >>>>>> no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.



    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God >>>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>>>
    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to >>>> do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses >>>>>>>>> no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone, >>>>>>>> and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He >>>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great >>>>>> wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good >>>>>>>> for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious. >>>>>
    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it. >>>>>>>>>
    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 13 19:21:12 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 17:01, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 2:18 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea
    You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned".

    No, it is not.  We dismiss your attempts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make superficial/cosmetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He lets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow
    anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and
    perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the >>>>>>>>>>>> same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be >>>>>>>>>>> in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine
    permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by >>>>>>>>>> the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to >>>>>>>>> be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to
    happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means
    there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' means! >>>>
    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved >>>>>>>>>>> is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing >>>>>>>>>> without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why would God >>>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>>>
    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone
    to do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence >>>>>>>>>>>> of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result >>>>>>>>>>>> of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back >>>>>>>>>> to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He >>>>>>>>> chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for
    everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't interfere.  He >>>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with
    great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see >>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been
    discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's >>>>>>>> good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than
    religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Sun Feb 13 20:26:33 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 18:19:29 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 5:21 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 17:01, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 2:18 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your attempts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make superficial/cosmetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you miraculously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heal
    people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He lets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and
    perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the >>>>>>>>>>>>> same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be >>>>>>>>>>>> in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine >>>>>>>>>>> permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by >>>>>>>>>>> the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it >>>>>>>>>> to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to >>>>>>>>> happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means
    there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' means! >>>>>
    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved >>>>>>>>>>>> is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing >>>>>>>>>>> without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why would God >>>>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about >>>>>>>>> that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for
    someone to do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by >>>>>>>>>>>>> God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence >>>>>>>>>>>>> of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the >>>>>>>>>>>>> result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn >>>>>>>>>>> back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He >>>>>>>>>> chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for >>>>>>>>> everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't interfere.  He >>>>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with >>>>>>> great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see >>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been
    discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means
    it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than
    religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    i wasn't looking for easier

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 13 20:39:57 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 20:19, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 5:21 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 17:01, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 2:18 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your attempts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make
    superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you miraculously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heal
    people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be >>>>>>>>>>>>> in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine >>>>>>>>>>>> permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by >>>>>>>>>>>> the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it >>>>>>>>>>> to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed >>>>>>>>>> bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to >>>>>>>>>> happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means >>>>>>>> there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' means! >>>>>>
    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved >>>>>>>>>>>>> is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing >>>>>>>>>>>> without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why would >>>>>>>>>>> God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about >>>>>>>>>> that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for
    someone to do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the
    consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn >>>>>>>>>>>> back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He >>>>>>>>>>> chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for >>>>>>>>>> everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't
    interfere.  He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with >>>>>>>> great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see >>>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been >>>>>>>>>>>>> discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means >>>>>>>>>> it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than
    religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is >>>>>>>>>>>> based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) >>>>>>>>> the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I
    can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR >>>>>>> fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    i wasn't looking for easier

    Sorry for the poor choice of word. I meant better actually.

    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 18:20:09 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 5:41 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 18:37, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:25:05 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 15:59, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:46:25 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your attempts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make superficial/cosmetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense.  In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you miraculously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heal
    people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He lets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and
    perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the >>>>>>>>>>>>> same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be >>>>>>>>>>>> in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine >>>>>>>>>>> permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by >>>>>>>>>>> the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it >>>>>>>>>> to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to >>>>>>>>> happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God.  What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?



         God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means
    there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' means! >>>>>
    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do.  He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.



    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved >>>>>>>>>>>> is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing >>>>>>>>>>> without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why would God >>>>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about >>>>>>>>> that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for
    someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't.  It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by >>>>>>>>>>>>> God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence >>>>>>>>>>>>> of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the >>>>>>>>>>>>> result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn >>>>>>>>>>> back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He >>>>>>>>>> chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for >>>>>>>>> everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't interfere.  He >>>>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with >>>>>>> great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see >>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been
    discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means
    it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than
    religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted.  Yours too.  Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    ya hear me

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 13 20:44:23 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 20:20, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 5:41 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 18:37, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:25:05 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 15:59, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:46:25 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your attempts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make
    superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense.  In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you miraculously >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heal
    people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be >>>>>>>>>>>>> in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine >>>>>>>>>>>> permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by >>>>>>>>>>>> the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it >>>>>>>>>>> to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed >>>>>>>>>> bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to >>>>>>>>>> happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God.  What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's
    applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?



         God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means >>>>>>>> there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' means! >>>>>>
    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do.  He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. God is like the
    sun, and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the
    sun, there can't be the darkness of the night.



    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved >>>>>>>>>>>>> is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing >>>>>>>>>>>> without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why would >>>>>>>>>>> God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about >>>>>>>>>> that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for
    someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do >>>>> good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't.  It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the
    consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn >>>>>>>>>>>> back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He >>>>>>>>>>> chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for >>>>>>>>>> everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't
    interfere.  He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with >>>>>>>> great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see >>>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere. >>>>
    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving >>>> his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been >>>>>>>>>>>>> discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means >>>>>>>>>> it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than
    religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is >>>>>>>>>>>> based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) >>>>>>>>> the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I
    can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR >>>>>>> fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted.  Yours too.  Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    ya hear me

    Sure. What's up?

    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From %@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 19:30:33 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 6:39 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 20:19, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 5:21 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 17:01, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 2:18 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th century and this term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine >>>>>>>>>>>>> permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by >>>>>>>>>>>>> the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it >>>>>>>>>>>> to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God
    allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to >>>>>>>>>>> happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all >>>>>>>> about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means >>>>>>>>> there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' >>>>>>>> means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things
    good. therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God >>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing >>>>>>>>>>>>> without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why >>>>>>>>>>>> would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about >>>>>>>>>>> that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good
    things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How >>>>>>>>> can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for
    someone to do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the
    consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn >>>>>>>>>>>>> back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He >>>>>>>>>>>> chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for >>>>>>>>>>> everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't
    interfere.  He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to >>>>>>>>>> be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all
    with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see >>>>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means >>>>>>>>>>> it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than
    religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is >>>>>>>>>>>>> based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made >>>>>>>>>> (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I
    can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR >>>>>>>> fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    i wasn't looking for easier

    Sorry for the poor choice of word. I meant better actually.

    it's ok , forget it , my point was / is / i just wanted to do it

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  • From %@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 19:31:20 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 6:44 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 20:20, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 5:41 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 18:37, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:25:05 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 15:59, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:46:25 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th century and this term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense.  In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine >>>>>>>>>>>>> permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by >>>>>>>>>>>>> the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it >>>>>>>>>>>> to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God
    allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to >>>>>>>>>>> happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all >>>>>>>> about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God.  What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether
    it's applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?



         God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means >>>>>>>>> there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' >>>>>>>> means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do.  He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. God is like the
    sun, and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is
    the sun, there can't be the darkness of the night.



    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God >>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing >>>>>>>>>>>>> without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why >>>>>>>>>>>> would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about >>>>>>>>>>> that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good
    things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How >>>>>>>>> can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for
    someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do >>>>>> good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't.  It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the
    consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn >>>>>>>>>>>>> back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He >>>>>>>>>>>> chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for >>>>>>>>>>> everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't
    interfere.  He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to >>>>>>>>>> be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all
    with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see >>>>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere. >>>>>
    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by
    giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After >>>> that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means >>>>>>>>>>> it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than
    religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the >>>>> faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is >>>>>>>>>>>>> based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made >>>>>>>>>> (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I
    can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR >>>>>>>> fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted.  Yours too.  Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    ya hear me

    Sure. What's up?

    oh , i thought we were saying ways to say understand me

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 13 21:54:59 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 21:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 6:39 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 20:19, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 5:21 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 17:01, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 2:18 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the other, but only to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.

    As long as your freaks use them among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th century and this term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into their lingo paradigm to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine >>>>>>>>>>>>>> permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands >>>>>>>>>>>>> off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God >>>>>>>>>>>> allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to >>>>>>>>>>>> happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all >>>>>>>>> about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means >>>>>>>>>> there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' >>>>>>>>> means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things
    good. therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why >>>>>>>>>>>>> would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt >>>>>>>>>>>> about that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good >>>>>>>>>>> things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. >>>>>>>>>> How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the >>>>>>>>> commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for
    someone to do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet >>>>>>>>>>>>> He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for >>>>>>>>>>>> everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't
    interfere.  He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out >>>>>>>>>>> to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all >>>>>>>>>> with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We >>>>>>>>> see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means >>>>>>>>>>>> it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than >>>>>>>>>> religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made >>>>>>>>>>> (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I >>>>>>>>>> can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR >>>>>>>>> fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    i wasn't looking for easier

    Sorry for the poor choice of word. I meant better actually.

    it's ok , forget it , my point was / is / i just wanted to do it

    And my point is about the living Church and the living Christ.

    :-)

    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 13 21:56:11 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 21:31, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 6:44 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 20:20, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 5:41 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 18:37, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:25:05 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 15:59, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:46:25 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the other, but only to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.

    As long as your freaks use them among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th century and this term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into their lingo paradigm to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense.  In the end, he is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine >>>>>>>>>>>>>> permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands >>>>>>>>>>>>> off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God >>>>>>>>>>>> allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to >>>>>>>>>>>> happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all >>>>>>>>> about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God.  What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether
    it's applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?



         God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He >>>>>>>>>>> wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means >>>>>>>>>> there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' >>>>>>>>> means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do.  He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. God is like the
    sun, and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is
    the sun, there can't be the darkness of the night.



    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why >>>>>>>>>>>>> would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt >>>>>>>>>>>> about that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good >>>>>>>>>>> things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. >>>>>>>>>> How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the >>>>>>>>> commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for
    someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants
    to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't.  It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn >>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet >>>>>>>>>>>>> He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for >>>>>>>>>>>> everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't
    interfere.  He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out >>>>>>>>>>> to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all >>>>>>>>>> with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We >>>>>>>>> see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not
    interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by
    giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After >>>>> that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means >>>>>>>>>>>> it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than >>>>>>>>>> religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the >>>>>> faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made >>>>>>>>>>> (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I >>>>>>>>>> can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR >>>>>>>>> fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted.  Yours too.  Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    ya hear me

    Sure. What's up?

    oh , i thought we were saying ways to say understand me

    OK.

    :-)

    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From %@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 20:02:48 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 7:54 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 21:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 6:39 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 20:19, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 5:21 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 17:01, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 2:18 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the shit out of fake % >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the other, but only to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.

    As long as your freaks use them among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th century and this term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is considered offensive. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into their lingo paradigm to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God >>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things >>>>>>>>>>>>> to happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all >>>>>>>>>> about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence >>>>>>>>>>> means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' >>>>>>>>>> means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things >>>>>>>>> good. therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt >>>>>>>>>>>>> about that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good >>>>>>>>>>>> things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. >>>>>>>>>>> How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the >>>>>>>>>> commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for >>>>>>>>> someone to do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned >>>>>>>>>>>>> for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't
    interfere.  He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out >>>>>>>>>>>> to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all >>>>>>>>>>> with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must >>>>>>>>>>> have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. >>>>>>>>>> We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means >>>>>>>>>>>>> it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than >>>>>>>>>>> religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made >>>>>>>>>>>> (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I >>>>>>>>>>> can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was >>>>>>>>>> YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    i wasn't looking for easier

    Sorry for the poor choice of word. I meant better actually.

    it's ok , forget it , my point was / is / i just wanted to do it

    And my point is about the living Church and the living Christ.

    :-)

    what about him

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  • From %@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 20:03:16 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 7:56 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 21:31, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 6:44 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 20:20, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 5:41 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 18:37, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:25:05 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 15:59, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:46:25 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the shit out of fake % >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other.

    You can successfully transition from one sex >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the other, but only to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.

    As long as your freaks use them among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long past >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20th century and this term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is considered offensive. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into their lingo paradigm to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense.  In the end, he is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God >>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things >>>>>>>>>>>>> to happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all >>>>>>>>>> about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God.  What is >>>>>> reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether
    it's applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?



         God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He >>>>>>>>>>>> wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence >>>>>>>>>>> means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' >>>>>>>>>> means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do.  He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. God is like the
    sun, and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is
    the sun, there can't be the darkness of the night.



    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt >>>>>>>>>>>>> about that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good >>>>>>>>>>>> things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. >>>>>>>>>>> How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the >>>>>>>>>> commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for >>>>>>>>> someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants >>>>>>>> to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't.  It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned >>>>>>>>>>>>> for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't
    interfere.  He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out >>>>>>>>>>>> to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all >>>>>>>>>>> with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must >>>>>>>>>>> have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. >>>>>>>>>> We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not
    interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by >>>>>>> giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function. >>>>>>
    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth.
    After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means >>>>>>>>>>>>> it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than >>>>>>>>>>> religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the >>>>>>> faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made >>>>>>>>>>>> (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I >>>>>>>>>>> can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was >>>>>>>>>> YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted.  Yours too.  Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    ya hear me

    Sure. What's up?

    oh , i thought we were saying ways to say understand me

    OK.

    :-)

    yes fine thanks , you

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 13 22:13:03 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 22:02, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 7:54 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 21:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 6:39 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 20:19, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 5:21 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 17:01, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 2:18 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> report the shit out of fake % >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transphobic'®™ because there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other.

    You can successfully transition from one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sex to the other, but only to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.

    As long as your freaks use them among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> past 20th century and this term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is considered offensive. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into their lingo paradigm to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What a total waste of money. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God >>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's >>>>>>>>>>> all about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He >>>>>>>>>>>>> wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence >>>>>>>>>>>> means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' >>>>>>>>>>> means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things >>>>>>>>>> good. therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt >>>>>>>>>>>>>> about that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good >>>>>>>>>>>>> things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. >>>>>>>>>>>> How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the >>>>>>>>>>> commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for >>>>>>>>>> someone to do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> interfere.  He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all >>>>>>>>>>>> with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must >>>>>>>>>>>> have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. >>>>>>>>>>> We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which >>>>>>>>>>>>>> means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be >>>>>>>>>>>>> religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than >>>>>>>>>>>> religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made >>>>>>>>>>>>> (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I >>>>>>>>>>>> can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was >>>>>>>>>>> YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    i wasn't looking for easier

    Sorry for the poor choice of word. I meant better actually.

    it's ok , forget it , my point was / is / i just wanted to do it

    And my point is about the living Church and the living Christ.

    :-)

    what about him

    He is our Lord, the center of our life. We live our life for him and him
    alone.

    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From %@21:1/5 to aaa on Sun Feb 13 20:49:17 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 8:13 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 22:02, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 7:54 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 21:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 6:39 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 20:19, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 5:21 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 17:01, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 2:18 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> report the shit out of fake % >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transphobic'®™ because there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person who is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other.

    You can successfully transition from one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sex to the other, but only to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> past 20th century and this term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is considered offensive. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into their lingo paradigm to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What a total waste of money. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria?  A little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attitude.

    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's >>>>>>>>>>>> all about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence >>>>>>>>>>>>> means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what >>>>>>>>>>>> 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things >>>>>>>>>>> good. therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good >>>>>>>>>>>>>> things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. >>>>>>>>>>>>> How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the >>>>>>>>>>>> commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for >>>>>>>>>>> someone to do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> interfere.  He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns >>>>>>>>>>>>>> out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all >>>>>>>>>>>>> with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must >>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. >>>>>>>>>>>> We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than >>>>>>>>>>>>> religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was >>>>>>>>>>>> YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    i wasn't looking for easier

    Sorry for the poor choice of word. I meant better actually.

    it's ok , forget it , my point was / is / i just wanted to do it

    And my point is about the living Church and the living Christ.

    :-)

    what about him

    He is our Lord, the center of our life. We live our life for him and him alone.

    oh that , yea i know

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 13 23:59:17 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-13 22:49, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 8:13 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 22:02, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 7:54 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 21:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 6:39 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 20:19, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 5:21 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 17:01, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 2:18 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ
    <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> report the shit out of fake % >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOBODY on Usenet is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transphobic'®™ because there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Transed" is a transphobic way to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempts to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dismiss your 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constantly changing and nobody will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negative effects of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always had their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> English usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person who is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'trans' neo-word. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Trans community is a subculture that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> none of you have ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed' from one sex to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other.

    You can successfully transition from one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sex to the other, but only to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superficial/cosmetic changes which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make you either more or less convicing as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an impersonator of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opposite sex, but nothing fundamental >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes.

    They are free to make up words which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they want.

    As long as your freaks use them among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourselves and don't expect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't want surgery, but now we're long >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> past 20th century and this term >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is considered offensive. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into their lingo paradigm to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. In the end, he is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to get old and all of this bullshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not going to matter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Old and still male after all the 'gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysphoria' therapy, female >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hormones, surgery (if any) etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What a total waste of money. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria?  A little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attitude.

    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish. I believe this is how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands off
    approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed bad
    things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things to happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's >>>>>>>>>>>>> all about
    faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above. >>>>>>>>>>>>

       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence >>>>>>>>>>>>>> means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things >>>>>>>>>>>> good. therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would God
    create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about that?

    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things as
    well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve >>>>>>>>>>>>>> good. How can
    anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for >>>>>>>>>>>> someone to do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>>


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interfere.  He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. >>>>>>>>>>>>> We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was >>>>>>>>>>>>> YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    i wasn't looking for easier

    Sorry for the poor choice of word. I meant better actually.

    it's ok , forget it , my point was / is / i just wanted to do it

    And my point is about the living Church and the living Christ.

    :-)

    what about him

    He is our Lord, the center of our life. We live our life for him and
    him alone.

    oh that , yea i know

    Of course. Everybody knows that.

    :-)

    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From El Kabong@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 00:16:33 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Don't forget to look under the couch cushions too.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    MX is real, but he's a fake christ.

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 14 13:39:06 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 00:16:33 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Don't forget to look under the couch cushions too.

    I did and I found a £1 coin! Thanks!

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    MX is real, but he's a fake christ.

    That may be his real name, who knows?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Mon Feb 14 13:31:28 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 17:01, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 2:18 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your attempts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make superficial/cosmetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He lets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and
    perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the >>>>>>>>>>>>> same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be >>>>>>>>>>>> in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine >>>>>>>>>>> permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by >>>>>>>>>>> the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to >>>>>>>>>> be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to >>>>>>>>> happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means
    there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' means! >>>>>
    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved >>>>>>>>>>>> is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing >>>>>>>>>>> without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why would God >>>>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>>>>
    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone >>>>> to do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence >>>>>>>>>>>>> of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result >>>>>>>>>>>>> of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back >>>>>>>>>>> to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He >>>>>>>>>> chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for >>>>>>>>> everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't interfere.  He >>>>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with >>>>>>> great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see >>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been
    discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's >>>>>>>>> good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than
    religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Mon Feb 14 13:38:01 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 13:39:55 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 17:25:13 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 4:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 21:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/11/22 19:05, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:54:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:57:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Being 'trans' is a physical impossibility so talking about it being >>>>>>>> harmful or not is absolutely pointless.

    Yes, it is possible.

    No, it is absolutely impossible, as a DNA test will show.

    It is also a social possibility with changes like
    your name, clothing, make-up, voice training. It's not an all-or-nothing
    journey - for example, I chose to change my name, clothing, voice and >>>>>>> left out makeup.

    And at the end of all that, you still won't find a man you can fool >>>>>> into thinking you're a woman.

    I don't need to fool anyone that I'm a woman, I'm just one.

    Don't be absurd. Of course you're not. You're a man - a delusional
    one, but still a man. Women don't got dicks!

    Unless they're trans women.

    No such creatures exist in reality.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned:
    http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are.

    Ignorant? This from a delusional asshole who rejects the scientific >>>>>>>>>> FACTS of DNA! Simply incredible!

    If you believe that we say that "biological sex isn't real", then bingo
    - you just gave yourself away as a TERF.

    I don't care what labels you put on it, reality is reality and >>>>>>>> biological sex is the ONLY sex that matters.

    Well, it matters, when you want to have children, in medicine and in >>>>>>> sports. College swimmer Lia Thomas has been getting a lot of shit simply
    because she is a trans woman.

    If this horseshit continues, that's the end of women's sports. There >>>>>> will only be unisex sports and the males will always win.

    Well, only the people who are best suited, regardless of their sex,
    should be able to compete.

    And that will almost always be males, except for faggy stuff like
    figure skating and possibly gymnastics.

    Figure skating and women's gymnastics is one of exceptions where women
    have it better.

    Precisely. And that may be all.

    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The >>>>>>>>>> reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you
    will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.

    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting >>>>>>>> off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that >>>>>>>> don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or >>>>>>> taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose.

    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting >>>>>> something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your >>>>>> body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    There is some amount of estrogen of your body, isn't it? HRT isn't that >>>>> risky as you think according to currently existing research.

    Some is OK, but you're overdosing on massive amounts which can't
    possibly be good.

    Blood clotting is rare, but it happens.

    It's relatively new, so it's probably causing other side effects that
    we don't even know about yet.

    it made you nuts

    How could it have, heapboi?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Mon Feb 14 13:36:30 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:41:51 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 18:37, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:25:05 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 15:59, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:46:25 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to
    happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed.


    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be. >>>>>>>>>
    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all. Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's >applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?

    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to
    understand?


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is >>>>>>> no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means! >>>>>
    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God >>>>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>>>>
    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to >>>>> do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses >>>>>>>>>> no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He >>>>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great >>>>>>> wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see >>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good >>>>>>>>> for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious. >>>>>>
    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position.

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 09:21:40 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 09:06:46 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 17:01, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 2:18 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 15:30, % wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 12:46 p.m., aaa wrote:
    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa
    <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific (he/him) ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (he/him) ? wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please block messages and report the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit out of fake % impersonator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transphobic on Usenet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there aren't any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully 'transed'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transitioned". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it is not.  We dismiss your attempts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to appropriate the English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the same way we dismiss your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'transgender' delusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Some websites, like the Australian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TransHub, call transition "gender >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affirmation". Language is constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing and nobody will change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, with all positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own sublanguages and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is a good example.  Mainstream English >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage remains unchanged. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is questioning their gender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it isn't.  Another meaningless 'trans' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garnered about 1.5% of youth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't.  You can make superficial/cosmetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ.  Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria?  A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say?  Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God.  God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works.  Human beings have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have approved
    of.  The way I see it, having created the world, He lets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything bad to
    happen.  That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be >>>>>>>>>>>>> in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine >>>>>>>>>>>> permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by >>>>>>>>>>>> the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to >>>>>>>>>>> be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to >>>>>>>>>> happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all.  Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.


       God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means >>>>>>>> there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible.  That's what 'omni' means! >>>>>>
    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.


    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved >>>>>>>>>>>>> is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing >>>>>>>>>>>> without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil?  Why would God >>>>>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>>>>>
    Yes, there can.  People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone >>>>>> to do good without believing good in the first place?



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin.  Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back >>>>>>>>>>>> to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner.  Yet He >>>>>>>>>>> chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for >>>>>>>>>> everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan:  He doesn't interfere.  He >>>>>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with >>>>>>>> great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform.  We see >>>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it.  Your theological views have long been >>>>>>>>>>>>> discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's >>>>>>>>>> good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than
    religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)


    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Mon Feb 14 17:22:02 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:36, KWills wrote:

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all. Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's
    applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?

    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to
    understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to >understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from
    justice handed out on Earth. Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means! >>>>>>>
    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven.

    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God >>>>>>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>>>>>>
    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to >>>>>>> do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do >>>>>> good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.

    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic.

    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He >>>>>>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see >>>>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere. >>>>>
    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving >>>>> his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After >>>> that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the >>>>> faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not
    there.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard.

    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:39:21 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Mon Feb 14 17:16:11 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:52:52 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:36, KWills wrote:

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all. Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>>>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's >>>> applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?

    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to
    understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to
    understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from
    justice handed out on Earth.

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means! >>>>>>>>
    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven.

    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    Pure speculation.


    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun, >>>> there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.



    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God >>>>>>>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that?

    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the >>>>>>>>> commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do >>>>>>> good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.

    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic.

    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.



    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He >>>>>>>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see >>>>>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere. >>>>>>
    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving >>>>>> his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After >>>>> that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the >>>>>> faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not
    there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.



    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard.

    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.



    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>>>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.


    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:55:45 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 11:08:55 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 6:39 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 00:16:33 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Don't forget to look under the couch cushions too.

    I did and I found a £1 coin! Thanks!

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    MX is real, but he's a fake christ.

    That may be his real name, who knows?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    i know

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 11:09:56 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 10:16 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    you never said what you are ... idgit

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 11:10:50 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 6:36 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:41:51 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 18:37, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:25:05 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 15:59, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:46:25 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 13:28, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:40:31 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 07:49, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 22:57:55 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 20:22, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:34:39 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-12 17:25, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:28:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 14:30, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:41:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 11:56, KWills wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:17:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-12 09:01, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:46:36 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    Michael Christ <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 10:38 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 09:40:07 +1100, Michael Christ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jesusisthelordofall@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 12/02/2022 4:47 am, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:51:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 10:34 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 20:44:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/5/22 7:37 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:18:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 9:56 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:15:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 7:42 PM, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2/4/22 6:22 PM, % wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-02-04 11:11 a.m., Scientific (he/him) ? wrote:
    Please block messages and report the shit out of fake % impersonator.

    good idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are one of few people who aren't transphobic on Usenet.

    NOBODY on Usenet is 'transphobic'®™ because there aren't any
    'transgender' people who have successfully 'transed'.

    "Transed" is a transphobic way to say "transitioned".

    No, it is not. We dismiss your attempts to appropriate the English
    language in the same way we dismiss your 'transgender' delusions.

    Some websites, like the Australian TransHub, call transition "gender
    affirmation". Language is constantly changing and nobody will change
    that, with all positive and negative effects of it.

    https://www.transhub.org.au/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Subcultures such as yours have always had their own sublanguages and
    this is a good example. Mainstream English usage remains unchanged.

    For example, an "egg" is a trans person who is questioning their gender.

    No, it isn't. Another meaningless 'trans' neo-word.

    Trans community is a subculture that has garnered about 1.5% of youth.

    There is no 'trans' subcommunity since none of you have ever
    successfully 'transed' from one sex to the other. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can successfully transition from one sex to the other, but only to
    some degree.

    No, you can't. You can make superficial/cosmetic changes which will
    make you either more or less convicing as an impersonator of the
    opposite sex, but nothing fundamental changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They are free to make up words which they want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    As long as your freaks use them among yourselves and don't expect us
    normal people to adopt your newspeak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Well, back in 90s I would have myself a "transgenderist" because I
    didn't want surgery, but now we're long past 20th century and this term
    is considered offensive.

    We don't use it so we don't give a shit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, his plan is to get people to buy into their lingo paradigm to
    legitimize it.

    However, here is the irony with all this nonsense. In the end, he is
    going to get old and all of this bullshit is not going to matter.

    Old and still male after all the 'gender dysphoria' therapy, female
    hormones, surgery (if any) etc.

    What a total waste of money.

    Yep, vanity.

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Let me try to go farther than that.

    I think God does not interfere in the wrong way, but God does interfere
    in the right way. We, as human beings, can't do anything without God. If
    we pursue things in the wrong way, we can't accomplish anything because
    we don't have God's support. If we pursue things in the right way, we
    will have God's support, and we will succeed. This is why we all have to
    thank God for anything we are able to accomplish. I believe this is how
    God interferes.

    I'm not sure that's the way it works. Human beings have achieved some
    horrendous things which I'm pretty sure God would not have approved
    of. The way I see it, having created the world, He lets Nature take
    its course, come what may.

    That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It is why we all
    have to thank God for everything good and be responsible for our own
    mistakes ultimately.

    What you were suggesting was that God doesn't allow anything bad to
    happen. That is obviously untrue.

    On the contrary, that is obviously, absolutely, and perfectly true. The
    evidence of that is heaven. Otherwise, heaven would be the same as this
    suffering earth. That is unthinkable.

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood.

    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be. >>>>>>>>>>
    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all. Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's
    applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?

    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to
    understand?


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means! >>>>>>
    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence.

    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad.

    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God >>>>>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that? >>>>>>>>>
    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the
    commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to >>>>>> do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do >>>>> good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He >>>>>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great >>>>>>>> wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see >>>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere. >>>>
    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving >>>> his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious. >>>>>>>
    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position.

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.
    --
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    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 11:12:02 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 6:38 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    believe in me or not , i don't care

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 11:11:25 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 10:22 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:36, KWills wrote:

    We have to deal with what's on earth not what is or will be in heaven.
    And what happens on earth is often doubleplusungood. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Just because bad thing happens doesn't mean it has divine permission.

    It doesn't NEED divine permission because God takes a hands off >>>>>>>>>>>>> approach.

    If there is no permission, you can't assume it is allowed. >>>>>>>>>>>>

    If it had divine permission, heaven would be equally bad by the same
    permission. That is just a logical impossibility.

    That doesn't follow. God created Heaven the way He wanted it to be.

    God's law is equal to all. It's called justice. If God allowed bad >>>>>>>>>>>> things to happen on earth, God wouldn't forbid bad things to happen in
    heaven either.

    Why ever not?

    Because it's logic.

    Not at all. Besides, logic has no place in theology, it's all about >>>>>>>>> faith.

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's >>>> applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?

    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to
    understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to
    understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from
    justice handed out on Earth. Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to Heaven?

    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means! >>>>>>>>
    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven.

    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun, >>>> there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    On the other the hand, your assumption that there can be anything good
    from letting nature taking its course without God involved is just a
    wishful thinking without the slightest evidence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Whatever can be is what it is. Both good and bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The rule is that no one can be good or doing the good thing without God.

    Are you trying to say that man is inherently evil? Why would God >>>>>>>>>>>>> create something like that?

    Without God, man is always evil. Can there be any doubt about that?

    Yes, there can. People who don't believe in Him do good things as >>>>>>>>>>> well as bad things.

    Since God is good, to disbelieve God is to disbelieve good. How can >>>>>>>>>> anyone do good when he disbelieves good?

    By taking advantage of God's unwilingness to interfere in the >>>>>>>>> commission of good things.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do >>>>>>> good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.

    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic.

    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He >>>>>>>>>>> lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see >>>>>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere. >>>>>>
    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving >>>>>> his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After >>>>> that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the >>>>>> faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not
    there.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard.

    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>>>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    how many kinds are there

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 18:21:31 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:09:56 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 10:16 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?

    you never said what you are ... idgit

    Nobody aksed me, idgit.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Mon Feb 14 18:29:11 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:52:52 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is >>>>>> reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's >>>>> applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?

    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to
    understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to >>> understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from
    justice handed out on Earth.

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people
    in Hell justice?

    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.

    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would
    anyone give a shit?

    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He >>>>>>>>>>>> wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means! >>>>>>>>>
    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven.

    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules.

    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun, >>>>> there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do >>>>>>>> good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.

    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic.

    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an
    unsupported claim.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be. >>>>>>>>>>>
    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see >>>>>>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere. >>>>>>>
    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving >>>>>>> his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function. >>>>>>
    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After >>>>>> that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the >>>>>>> faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not
    there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.

    Regardless, it's not there.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard.

    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved
    them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim
    of yours with a cite.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Mon Feb 14 18:20:54 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 18:22:34 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:09:11 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:31 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    <circumcised>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?

    nope

    I wasn't aksing you, idgit.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Mon Feb 14 18:30:46 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:55:45 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 18:30:14 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:10:50 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:36 a.m., KWills wrote:


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    i just believe him i don't need everything proved to me

    That's because you're gullible. I demand proof.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 19:05:33 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:12:02 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:38 a.m., KWills wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    believe in me or not , i don't care

    Everyone believes you are a fake %.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 18:31:17 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:08:55 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:39 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 00:16:33 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Don't forget to look under the couch cushions too.

    I did and I found a £1 coin! Thanks!

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    MX is real, but he's a fake christ.

    That may be his real name, who knows?

    i know

    So is it or isn't it?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 19:04:48 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:12:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 10:22 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    no

    What the fuck would you know about it, heapboi?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 19:06:26 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:12:53 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:39 a.m., KWills wrote:

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The >>>>>>>>>>>> reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you
    will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with. >>>>>>>>>>>
    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting
    off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that >>>>>>>>>> don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or >>>>>>>>> taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose.

    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting >>>>>>>> something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your >>>>>>>> body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    There is some amount of estrogen of your body, isn't it? HRT isn't that >>>>>>> risky as you think according to currently existing research.

    Some is OK, but you're overdosing on massive amounts which can't
    possibly be good.

    Blood clotting is rare, but it happens.

    It's relatively new, so it's probably causing other side effects that
    we don't even know about yet.

    it made you nuts

    How could it have, heapboi?

    is your google broken

    Dunno, heapboi...what about yours?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:14:57 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 11:21 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:09:56 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 10:16 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?

    you never said what you are ... idgit

    Nobody aksed me, idgit.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    do you have to be asked before you say anything you on command idgit

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:15:49 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 11:22 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:09:11 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:31 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    <circumcised>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?

    nope

    I wasn't aksing you, idgit.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    who cares what you were doing , nope is nope , hammer head

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:16:33 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 11:30 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:10:50 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:36 a.m., KWills wrote:


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the >>>>>>>>>>> claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be >>>>>>>>>> responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact. >>>>>>>>> Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    i just believe him i don't need everything proved to me

    That's because you're gullible. I demand proof.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    that choice of the idgits

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:17:57 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 12:04 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:11:25 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    how many kinds are there

    Two: feeble and very feeble.
    Off-topic, btw.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    my question was about the topic so on topic , idg ,
    there's also less than feeble and non feeble

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:18:42 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 11:31 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:08:55 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:39 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 00:16:33 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Don't forget to look under the couch cushions too.

    I did and I found a £1 coin! Thanks!

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    MX is real, but he's a fake christ.

    That may be his real name, who knows?

    i know

    So is it or isn't it?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    ask him it's his name

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:19:06 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 12:04 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:12:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 10:22 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>>
    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    no

    What the fuck would you know about it, heapboi?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    oh i know

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:20:25 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 12:06 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:12:53 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:39 a.m., KWills wrote:

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The >>>>>>>>>>>>> reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you
    will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting
    off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that >>>>>>>>>>> don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or >>>>>>>>>> taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose.

    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting >>>>>>>>> something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your >>>>>>>>> body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    There is some amount of estrogen of your body, isn't it? HRT isn't that
    risky as you think according to currently existing research.

    Some is OK, but you're overdosing on massive amounts which can't >>>>>>> possibly be good.

    Blood clotting is rare, but it happens.

    It's relatively new, so it's probably causing other side effects that >>>>> we don't even know about yet.

    it made you nuts

    How could it have, heapboi?

    is your google broken

    Dunno, heapboi...what about yours?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    off topic

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 19:40:21 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:14:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 11:21 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:09:56 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 10:16 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?

    you never said what you are ... idgit

    Nobody aksed me, idgit.

    do you have to be asked before you say anything you on command idgit

    I have all kinds of answers to all kinds of questions, idgit. How the
    fuck am I supposed to know which answer to give if nobody aksed?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 19:42:32 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:17:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:04 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:11:25 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    how many kinds are there

    Two: feeble and very feeble.
    Off-topic, btw.

    my question was about the topic so on topic , idg ,

    The topic was the excuse not the feebleness of it so off topic idgit.

    there's also less than feeble and non feeble

    If you know so much about feebleness why did you bother to aks?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 19:41:07 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:15:49 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 11:22 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:09:11 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:31 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    <circumcised>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?

    nope

    I wasn't aksing you, idgit.

    who cares what you were doing , nope is nope , hammer head

    Only an idgit would reply nope without even being aksed.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 19:43:17 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:16:33 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 11:30 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:10:50 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:36 a.m., KWills wrote:


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    i just believe him i don't need everything proved to me

    That's because you're gullible. I demand proof.

    that choice of the idgits

    That makes even less sense than usual, idgit. Try again.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 19:44:34 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:19:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:05 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:12:02 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:38 a.m., KWills wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    believe in me or not , i don't care

    Everyone believes you are a fake %.

    introduce me to everyone and i'll explain to him the difference

    That would take forever, idgit.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 19:46:48 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:20:25 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:06 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:12:53 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:39 a.m., KWills wrote:

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The
    reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you
    will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting
    off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that
    don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or
    taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose.

    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting >>>>>>>>>> something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your >>>>>>>>>> body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    There is some amount of estrogen of your body, isn't it? HRT isn't that
    risky as you think according to currently existing research.

    Some is OK, but you're overdosing on massive amounts which can't >>>>>>>> possibly be good.

    Blood clotting is rare, but it happens.

    It's relatively new, so it's probably causing other side effects that >>>>>> we don't even know about yet.

    it made you nuts

    How could it have, heapboi?

    is your google broken

    Dunno, heapboi...what about yours?

    off topic

    Because you brought it up.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:52:40 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 12:40 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:14:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 11:21 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:09:56 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 10:16 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>
    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?

    you never said what you are ... idgit

    Nobody aksed me, idgit.

    do you have to be asked before you say anything you on command idgit

    I have all kinds of answers to all kinds of questions, idgit. How the
    fuck am I supposed to know which answer to give if nobody aksed?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    maybe you should speak only when spoken too

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:54:35 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 12:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:16:33 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 11:30 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:10:50 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:36 a.m., KWills wrote:


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    i just believe him i don't need everything proved to me

    That's because you're gullible. I demand proof.

    that choice of the idgits

    That makes even less sense than usual, idgit. Try again.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    who cares what it makes

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:53:39 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:15:49 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 11:22 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:09:11 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:31 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    <circumcised>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?

    nope

    I wasn't aksing you, idgit.

    who cares what you were doing , nope is nope , hammer head

    Only an idgit would reply nope without even being aksed.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    who cares what an idgit would do idgit

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:55:56 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 12:44 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:19:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:05 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:12:02 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:38 a.m., KWills wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>>
    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    believe in me or not , i don't care

    Everyone believes you are a fake %.

    introduce me to everyone and i'll explain to him the difference

    That would take forever, idgit.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    then don't say what everyone does freakin idgit

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:56:30 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 12:46 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:18:42 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 11:31 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:08:55 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:39 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 00:16:33 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>
    Don't forget to look under the couch cushions too.

    I did and I found a £1 coin! Thanks!

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    MX is real, but he's a fake christ.

    That may be his real name, who knows?

    i know

    So is it or isn't it?

    ask him it's his name

    Why? I'm aksing you.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    and i'm telling you how to find out

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 12:57:04 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 12:46 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:20:25 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:06 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:12:53 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:39 a.m., KWills wrote:

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The
    reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you
    will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting
    off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that
    don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or
    taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose.

    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting >>>>>>>>>>> something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your >>>>>>>>>>> body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    There is some amount of estrogen of your body, isn't it? HRT isn't that
    risky as you think according to currently existing research. >>>>>>>>>
    Some is OK, but you're overdosing on massive amounts which can't >>>>>>>>> possibly be good.

    Blood clotting is rare, but it happens.

    It's relatively new, so it's probably causing other side effects that >>>>>>> we don't even know about yet.

    it made you nuts

    How could it have, heapboi?

    is your google broken

    Dunno, heapboi...what about yours?

    off topic

    Because you brought it up.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    no i didn't

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 20:37:59 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:54:35 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:16:33 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 11:30 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:10:50 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:36 a.m., KWills wrote:


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    i just believe him i don't need everything proved to me

    That's because you're gullible. I demand proof.

    that choice of the idgits

    That makes even less sense than usual, idgit. Try again.

    who cares what it makes

    Idgits like you care.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 20:36:42 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:53:39 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:41 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:15:49 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 11:22 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:09:11 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:31 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    <circumcised>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?

    nope

    I wasn't aksing you, idgit.

    who cares what you were doing , nope is nope , hammer head

    Only an idgit would reply nope without even being aksed.

    who cares what an idgit would do idgit

    An idgit like you, presumably.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 20:38:37 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:54:59 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:43 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:19:06 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:04 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:12:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 10:22 a.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>>>>>
    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    no

    What the fuck would you know about it, heapboi?

    oh i know

    You know jack shit.

    leave your wife out of it

    I thought he was your wife.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 20:40:58 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:57:04 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:46 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:20:25 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:06 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:12:53 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:39 a.m., KWills wrote:

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The
    reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you
    will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting
    off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that
    don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or
    taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose.

    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting >>>>>>>>>>>> something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your >>>>>>>>>>>> body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    There is some amount of estrogen of your body, isn't it? HRT isn't that
    risky as you think according to currently existing research. >>>>>>>>>>
    Some is OK, but you're overdosing on massive amounts which can't >>>>>>>>>> possibly be good.

    Blood clotting is rare, but it happens.

    It's relatively new, so it's probably causing other side effects that >>>>>>>> we don't even know about yet.

    it made you nuts

    How could it have, heapboi?

    is your google broken

    Dunno, heapboi...what about yours?

    off topic

    Because you brought it up.

    no i didn't

    Yes you did when you aksed if my google was broken. Nobody had
    mentioned google before.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Mon Feb 14 20:39:27 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:55:56 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:44 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:19:57 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:05 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 11:12:02 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 6:38 a.m., KWills wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>>>
    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    believe in me or not , i don't care

    Everyone believes you are a fake %.

    introduce me to everyone and i'll explain to him the difference

    That would take forever, idgit.

    then don't say what everyone does freakin idgit

    Just because I can't introduce you to them doesn't mean it's wrong,
    idgit.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 19:48:07 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 20:02:10 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 13:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:55:45 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>>
    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 20:00:54 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 13:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:52:52 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is >>>>>>> reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's >>>>>> applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?

    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to
    understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to >>>> understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from
    justice handed out on Earth.

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people
    in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely. It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.


    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.

    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would
    anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He >>>>>>>>>>>>> wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would >>>>> they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven.

    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.


    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun, >>>>>> there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day. >>>>
    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.


    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do >>>>>>>>> good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.

    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic.

    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an
    unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your responsibility to verify.


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see >>>>>>>>>>> the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>
    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function. >>>>>>>
    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After >>>>>>> that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the >>>>>>>> faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not
    there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.

    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard.

    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved
    them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God
    doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice
    to abandon God and God's helping hands.



    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim
    of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    --
    KWills
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    counselor.
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    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 02:23:15 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 19:29:05 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 7:23 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>
    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    pee on old glory

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 02:29:29 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:00:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:52:52 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is >>>>>>>> reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's >>>>>>> applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?

    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to
    understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to >>>>> understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from
    justice handed out on Earth.

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people
    in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.

    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would
    anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.

    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>>>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would >>>>>> they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven.

    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun, >>>>>>> there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day. >>>>>
    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where
    the evil lies.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.

    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic.

    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an
    unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your >responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've
    proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh?
    Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a >>>>>>>>>>>>> perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function. >>>>>>>>
    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After >>>>>>>> that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the >>>>>>>>> faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not
    there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.

    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance.

    Again regardless, it's not there.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>
    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard.

    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved
    them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God
    doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice
    to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them
    He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim
    of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or
    admit you made it up.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 02:30:00 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:02:10 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:55:45 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>>>
    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 19:32:50 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 7:30 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:02:10 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:55:45 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>>>>
    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    you did that's for sure

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Tue Feb 15 02:50:37 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:29:05 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 7:23 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    pee on old glory

    Changing the topic again, heapboi?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Tue Feb 15 02:52:23 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:32:26 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 7:29 p.m., KWills wrote:



    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus. >>>>
    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim >>>> of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or
    admit you made it up.

    ok i admit you're not real i made you up ,
    it was a stupid bet but someone said ,
    i couldn't make and idgit and there you are , idgit

    What are you babbling about now, heapboi?

    Just say NO to drugz!
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Tue Feb 15 02:53:17 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:32:50 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 7:30 p.m., KWills wrote:


    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>>>>>
    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    you did that's for sure

    No, I have not.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From %@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 20:17:49 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 7:50 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:29:05 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 7:23 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    pee on old glory

    Changing the topic again, heapboi?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    nope , just showing my non belief , idgit

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 23:19:32 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 21:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:02:10 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:55:45 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere.

    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>>>>
    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each
    individual.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 23:03:28 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>
    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Mon Feb 14 23:15:17 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-14 21:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:00:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:52:52 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above.

    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is >>>>>>>>> reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's >>>>>>>> applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?

    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to >>>>>>> understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to >>>>>> understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from
    justice handed out on Earth.

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people
    in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that?


    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment.


    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.

    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would
    anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.

    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good. >>>>>>>>>>>> therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would >>>>>>> they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven.

    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on >>>>> Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good.


    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun, >>>>>>>> there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day. >>>>>>
    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where
    the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.


    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.

    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic.

    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only >>>>> God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an
    unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your
    responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've
    proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh?
    Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact
    less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do.


    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone.

    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function. >>>>>>>>>
    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence. >>>>>>
    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the >>>>>>>>>> faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's >>>>>> inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not
    there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.

    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance.

    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view.

    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge >>>>>> people according to the human or the earthly standard.

    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved
    them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God
    doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice
    to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them
    He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules".


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus. >>>
    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim
    of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or
    admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.


    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 14:13:09 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 14:19:12 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:19:32 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:02:10 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:55:45 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>>>>>
    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each >individual.

    There isn't one.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Tue Feb 15 14:21:15 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:17:49 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 7:50 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:29:05 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 7:23 p.m., KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7. >>>>>>>>>>
    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    pee on old glory

    Changing the topic again, heapboi?

    nope , just showing my non belief , idgit

    In other words, another idgitic change of topic.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 14:18:37 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:15:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:00:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:52:52 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is >>>>>>>>>> reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's
    applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?

    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to >>>>>>>> understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to
    understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from
    justice handed out on Earth.

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people
    in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that?

    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment.

    Without complaining?

    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.

    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would
    anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life. >>
    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants
    wherever He wants...or not at all.

    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would >>>>>>>> they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven.

    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on >>>>>> Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good.

    Didn't last long, did it?

    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day. >>>>>>>
    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where
    the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.

    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic.

    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only >>>>>> God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an
    unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your
    responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've
    proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh?
    Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact
    less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do.

    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you
    obviously can't.

    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function. >>>>>>>>>>
    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence. >>>>>>>
    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's >>>>>>> inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not
    there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.

    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance.

    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus.

    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion. >>>>>>>>
    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge >>>>>>> people according to the human or the earthly standard.

    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's >>>>> why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved
    them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God
    doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice
    to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them
    He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules".

    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus. >>>>
    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim >>>> of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or
    admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 10:14:17 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 09:19, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:19:32 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:02:10 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:55:45 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each
    individual.

    There isn't one.

    Blind denial.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 10:13:23 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 09:18, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:15:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:00:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:52:52 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>
    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is >>>>>>>>>>> reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's
    applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that?

    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to >>>>>>>>> understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to
    understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from >>>>>>> justice handed out on Earth.

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people >>>>> in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that?

    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    Not to me. Why is it meaningless to you?


    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment.

    Without complaining?

    There is nothing to complain since it's the rightful punishment for
    their crime.


    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.

    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would
    anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life. >>>
    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants
    wherever He wants...or not at all.

    It's the requirement of justice. Justice requires the law equally
    applied to all.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He? >>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would >>>>>>>>> they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven.

    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on >>>>>>> Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good.

    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.



    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where
    the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    Evil is only an illusion, yes.



    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place?

    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.

    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic.

    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only >>>>>>> God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an
    unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your >>>> responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've
    proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh?
    Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact
    less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do.

    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you
    obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other
    hand, are a different story.


    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function. >>>>>>>>>>>
    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence. >>>>>>>>
    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    I disagree.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious.

    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's >>>>>>>> inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not >>>>>>> there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.

    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance.

    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    You still can only talk about your ignorance.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view.

    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion. >>>>>>>>>
    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge >>>>>>>> people according to the human or the earthly standard.

    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's >>>>>> why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved
    them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God
    doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice >>>> to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them
    He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules".

    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    They condemn themselves to hell with their own actions. It has nothing
    to do with God.


    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus. >>>>>
    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim >>>>> of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs >>>> to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or
    admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?

    You are still talking about your own ignorance.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 09:43:54 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 16:36:21 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7. >>>>>>>>>>
    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 16:43:08 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 10:14:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:19, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:19:32 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:02:10 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:55:45 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one.

    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be >>>>>>>>>>>>> impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each
    individual.

    There isn't one.

    Blind denial.

    Prove there is one, then.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 16:42:45 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 10:13:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:18, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:15:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:00:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:52:52 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is >>>>>>>>>>>> reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth.

    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's
    applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that? >>>>>>>>>>
    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to >>>>>>>>>> understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to
    understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from >>>>>>>> justice handed out on Earth.

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people >>>>>> in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that?

    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    Not to me. Why is it meaningless to you?

    It's just a word salad with no meaning.

    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment.

    Without complaining?

    There is nothing to complain since it's the rightful punishment for
    their crime.

    Perhaps some were seeking forgiveness which He never gave them?

    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.

    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would >>>>>> anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life. >>>>
    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants
    wherever He wants...or not at all.

    It's the requirement of justice. Justice requires the law equally
    applied to all.

    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He
    wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that.

    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He? >>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would >>>>>>>>>> they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven.

    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on >>>>>>>> Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on >>>>>> Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good.

    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.

    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident.

    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where
    the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna
    attitude is that?

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.

    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic.

    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only >>>>>>>> God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an
    unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your >>>>> responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've
    proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh? >>>> Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact
    less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do.

    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you
    obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other
    hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it
    remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion.

    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence. >>>>>>>>>
    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    I disagree.

    You're entitled to. But then, you even think evil is an illusion.
    What is YOUR reality?

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's >>>>>>>>> inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not >>>>>>>> there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.

    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance.

    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    You still can only talk about your ignorance.

    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion. >>>>>>>>>>
    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge >>>>>>>>> people according to the human or the earthly standard.

    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's >>>>>>> why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved >>>>>> them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God >>>>> doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice >>>>> to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them
    He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules".

    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    They condemn themselves to hell with their own actions. It has nothing
    to do with God.

    He could forgive them, He doesn't. Isn't forgiveness fundamental to
    God being good?

    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim >>>>>> of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs >>>>> to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or
    admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?

    You are still talking about your own ignorance.

    No, I'm talking about your inability or unwillingness to provide a
    cite for a simple assertion.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 11:55:34 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 12:12:21 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 11:43, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 10:14:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:19, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:19:32 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:02:10 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:55:45 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each
    individual.

    There isn't one.

    Blind denial.

    Prove there is one, then.

    I don't have to.


    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 12:11:00 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 11:42, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 10:13:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:18, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:15:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:00:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:52:52 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's
    applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that? >>>>>>>>>>>
    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to >>>>>>>>>>> understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to
    understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from >>>>>>>>> justice handed out on Earth.

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people >>>>>>> in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that?

    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    Not to me. Why is it meaningless to you?

    It's just a word salad with no meaning.

    That only shows your own ignorance.


    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment.

    Without complaining?

    There is nothing to complain since it's the rightful punishment for
    their crime.

    Perhaps some were seeking forgiveness which He never gave them?

    Asking forgiveness isn't enough. One has to repent first before one can
    stand before God asking for anything. An unrepented sinner can't even
    stand before God let alone asking for anything.



    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.

    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would >>>>>>> anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.

    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants
    wherever He wants...or not at all.

    It's the requirement of justice. Justice requires the law equally
    applied to all.

    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He
    wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that.

    That's only your imagination.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He? >>>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven.

    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on >>>>>>>>> Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on >>>>>>> Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good.

    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.

    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident.

    It's merely a blip in the history of life.


    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where
    the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna
    attitude is that?

    I see evil, and I know it's only an illusion.


    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.

    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic.

    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only >>>>>>>>> God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an
    unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your >>>>>> responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've
    proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh? >>>>> Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact >>>> less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do.

    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you
    obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other
    hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it
    remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion.

    You can't speak for me, and I can't do your job for you.


    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence. >>>>>>>>>>
    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    I disagree.

    You're entitled to. But then, you even think evil is an illusion.
    What is YOUR reality?

    The spiritual reality.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's >>>>>>>>>> inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not >>>>>>>>> there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.

    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance.

    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    You still can only talk about your ignorance.

    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it.

    It's all your ignorance speaking.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>
    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge >>>>>>>>>> people according to the human or the earthly standard.

    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's >>>>>>>> why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved >>>>>>> them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God >>>>>> doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice >>>>>> to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them >>>>> He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules".

    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    They condemn themselves to hell with their own actions. It has nothing
    to do with God.

    He could forgive them, He doesn't. Isn't forgiveness fundamental to
    God being good?

    Forgiveness is never unconditional. Only love is unconditional. Crime
    must be paid to serve justice. It is not to be forgiven with no
    consequences.



    When Jesus said that only God is
    good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>
    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim >>>>>>> of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs >>>>>> to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or
    admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?

    You are still talking about your own ignorance.

    No, I'm talking about your inability or unwillingness to provide a
    cite for a simple assertion.

    It's not my responsibility.

    --
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    counselor.
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    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 18:32:31 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God?

    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 18:38:07 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 12:12:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:43, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 10:14:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:19, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:19:32 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:02:10 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 13:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:55:45 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each
    individual.

    There isn't one.

    Blind denial.

    Prove there is one, then.

    I don't have to.

    If you expect us to believe there is one, then you do.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 18:37:27 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 12:11:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:42, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 10:13:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:18, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:15:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:00:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 13:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:52:52 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's
    applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that? >>>>>>>>>>>>
    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to >>>>>>>>>>>> understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to
    understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from >>>>>>>>>> justice handed out on Earth.

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people >>>>>>>> in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that?

    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    Not to me. Why is it meaningless to you?

    It's just a word salad with no meaning.

    That only shows your own ignorance.

    No, it doesn't. It shows your meaningless wordplay.

    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment.

    Without complaining?

    There is nothing to complain since it's the rightful punishment for
    their crime.

    Perhaps some were seeking forgiveness which He never gave them?

    Asking forgiveness isn't enough. One has to repent first before one can
    stand before God asking for anything. An unrepented sinner can't even
    stand before God let alone asking for anything.

    Most who ask for forgiveness DO repent, knowing that. And STILL end
    up in Hell.

    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.

    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would >>>>>>>> anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.

    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants
    wherever He wants...or not at all.

    It's the requirement of justice. Justice requires the law equally
    applied to all.

    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He
    wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that.

    That's only your imagination.

    That's what omnipotence is all about.

    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. That is only your presumption.

    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven.

    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on >>>>>>>>>> Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on >>>>>>>> Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good.

    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.

    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident.

    It's merely a blip in the history of life.

    The incident with the Apple was only the first of MILLIONS of similar
    sinful incidents. It was NOT a one off.

    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where >>>>>> the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna
    attitude is that?

    I see evil, and I know it's only an illusion.

    It'll seem real enough when you're the beneficiary of it.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is.

    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic. >>>>>>>>>>
    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only >>>>>>>>>> God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an
    unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your >>>>>>> responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've
    proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh? >>>>>> Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact >>>>> less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do.

    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you
    obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other
    hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it
    remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion.

    You can't speak for me, and I can't do your job for you.

    I'm beginning to think you're full of shit. Are you?

    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence. >>>>>>>>>>>
    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    I disagree.

    You're entitled to. But then, you even think evil is an illusion.
    What is YOUR reality?

    The spiritual reality.

    There is an earthly reality all around you, if you care to look.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's >>>>>>>>>>> inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not >>>>>>>>>> there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.

    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance.

    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    You still can only talk about your ignorance.

    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it.

    It's all your ignorance speaking.

    Horseshit.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge >>>>>>>>>>> people according to the human or the earthly standard.

    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's >>>>>>>>> why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved >>>>>>>> them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God >>>>>>> doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice >>>>>>> to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them >>>>>> He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules".

    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    They condemn themselves to hell with their own actions. It has nothing
    to do with God.

    He could forgive them, He doesn't. Isn't forgiveness fundamental to
    God being good?

    Forgiveness is never unconditional. Only love is unconditional. Crime
    must be paid to serve justice. It is not to be forgiven with no
    consequences.

    Forgiveness is PART of love. Don't you understand that simple
    concept?

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim >>>>>>>> of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs >>>>>>> to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or >>>>>> admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?

    You are still talking about your own ignorance.

    No, I'm talking about your inability or unwillingness to provide a
    cite for a simple assertion.

    It's not my responsibility.

    It certainly is. See above about being full of shit.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 15:59:12 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 16:12:57 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 13:37, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 12:11:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:42, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 10:13:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:18, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:15:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:00:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 13:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:52:52 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's
    applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to >>>>>>>>>>>>> understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to
    understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from >>>>>>>>>>> justice handed out on Earth.

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people >>>>>>>>> in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that?

    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    Not to me. Why is it meaningless to you?

    It's just a word salad with no meaning.

    That only shows your own ignorance.

    No, it doesn't. It shows your meaningless wordplay.

    You are the one playing with the ignorant word salad in your head.


    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment.

    Without complaining?

    There is nothing to complain since it's the rightful punishment for
    their crime.

    Perhaps some were seeking forgiveness which He never gave them?

    Asking forgiveness isn't enough. One has to repent first before one can
    stand before God asking for anything. An unrepented sinner can't even
    stand before God let alone asking for anything.

    Most who ask for forgiveness DO repent, knowing that. And STILL end
    up in Hell.

    That is not possible. Repented sinner would never commit crime to fall
    in hell. The crime is the evidence of the sinner's unrepentance.



    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.

    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would >>>>>>>>> anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.

    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants
    wherever He wants...or not at all.

    It's the requirement of justice. Justice requires the law equally
    applied to all.

    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He
    wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that.

    That's only your imagination.

    That's what omnipotence is all about.

    Only according to your imagination.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven.

    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on >>>>>>>>> Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good. >>>>>
    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.

    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident.

    It's merely a blip in the history of life.

    The incident with the Apple was only the first of MILLIONS of similar
    sinful incidents. It was NOT a one off.

    I was talking about the nearly three thousand years blip. It's nothing comparing with the eternal life in heaven.


    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where >>>>>>> the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna
    attitude is that?

    I see evil, and I know it's only an illusion.

    It'll seem real enough when you're the beneficiary of it.

    I don't benefit from evil.



    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour.

    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an >>>>>>>>> unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your >>>>>>>> responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've >>>>>>> proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh? >>>>>>> Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact >>>>>> less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do.

    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you
    obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other
    hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it
    remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion.

    You can't speak for me, and I can't do your job for you.

    I'm beginning to think you're full of shit. Are you?

    More blind denial and willful ignorance.


    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    I disagree.

    You're entitled to. But then, you even think evil is an illusion.
    What is YOUR reality?

    The spiritual reality.

    There is an earthly reality all around you, if you care to look.

    That's only an illusion.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion.

    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them.

    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then?

    The spiritual is the home world of the religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too.

    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it.

    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not >>>>>>>>>>> there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.

    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance.

    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    You still can only talk about your ignorance.

    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it.

    It's all your ignorance speaking.

    Horseshit.

    That's more ignorance speaking.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard.

    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved >>>>>>>>> them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God >>>>>>>> doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice
    to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them >>>>>>> He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules".

    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    They condemn themselves to hell with their own actions. It has nothing >>>> to do with God.

    He could forgive them, He doesn't. Isn't forgiveness fundamental to
    God being good?

    Forgiveness is never unconditional. Only love is unconditional. Crime
    must be paid to serve justice. It is not to be forgiven with no
    consequences.

    Forgiveness is PART of love. Don't you understand that simple
    concept?

    They are not the same thing.


    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up.

    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim
    of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or >>>>>>> admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?

    You are still talking about your own ignorance.

    No, I'm talking about your inability or unwillingness to provide a
    cite for a simple assertion.

    It's not my responsibility.

    It certainly is. See above about being full of shit.

    Not true.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 16:14:11 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 13:38, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 12:12:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:43, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 10:14:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:19, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:19:32 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:02:10 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 13:30, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:55:45 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:40 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:38, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:26:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-13 16:00, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:22:32 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:59:56 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 12:06:47 -0800, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
    wrote:

    KWills <compue1f@gmail.com> wrote:

    El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere?

    You will probably say because there isn't one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each >>>>>> individual.

    There isn't one.

    Blind denial.

    Prove there is one, then.

    I don't have to.

    If you expect us to believe there is one, then you do.

    I'm not sure what you are asking. What do you want me to prove?

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 22:14:31 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 22:19:33 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:12:57 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:37, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 12:11:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:42, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 10:13:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:18, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:15:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 21:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:00:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 13:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:52:52 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's
    applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to
    understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to
    understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from >>>>>>>>>>>> justice handed out on Earth.

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people >>>>>>>>>> in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that?

    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    Not to me. Why is it meaningless to you?

    It's just a word salad with no meaning.

    That only shows your own ignorance.

    No, it doesn't. It shows your meaningless wordplay.

    You are the one playing with the ignorant word salad in your head.

    The word salad was your creation not mine.

    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment.

    Without complaining?

    There is nothing to complain since it's the rightful punishment for
    their crime.

    Perhaps some were seeking forgiveness which He never gave them?

    Asking forgiveness isn't enough. One has to repent first before one can
    stand before God asking for anything. An unrepented sinner can't even
    stand before God let alone asking for anything.

    Most who ask for forgiveness DO repent, knowing that. And STILL end
    up in Hell.

    That is not possible. Repented sinner would never commit crime to fall
    in hell. The crime is the evidence of the sinner's unrepentance.

    The repentance comes after the crime, but perhaps too late to get His forgiveness.

    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.

    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would >>>>>>>>>> anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.

    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants >>>>>> wherever He wants...or not at all.

    It's the requirement of justice. Justice requires the law equally
    applied to all.

    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He
    wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that.

    That's only your imagination.

    That's what omnipotence is all about.

    Only according to your imagination.

    That is how omnipotence is DEFINED.

    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on >>>>>>>>>> Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good. >>>>>>
    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.

    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident.

    It's merely a blip in the history of life.

    The incident with the Apple was only the first of MILLIONS of similar
    sinful incidents. It was NOT a one off.

    I was talking about the nearly three thousand years blip. It's nothing >comparing with the eternal life in heaven.

    But Heaven was, by definition, created at the same time as Earth
    (Genesis). Sin will continue on Earth for as long as Heaven exists.

    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where >>>>>>>> the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna
    attitude is that?

    I see evil, and I know it's only an illusion.

    It'll seem real enough when you're the beneficiary of it.

    I don't benefit from evil.

    It's another word for 'victim'.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an >>>>>>>>>> unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your
    responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've >>>>>>>> proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh? >>>>>>>> Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact >>>>>>> less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do.

    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you
    obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other >>>>> hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it
    remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion.

    You can't speak for me, and I can't do your job for you.

    I'm beginning to think you're full of shit. Are you?

    More blind denial and willful ignorance.

    On your part. Making shit up and refusing to back it up.

    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    I disagree.

    You're entitled to. But then, you even think evil is an illusion.
    What is YOUR reality?

    The spiritual reality.

    There is an earthly reality all around you, if you care to look.

    That's only an illusion.

    What's around is REAL...more real than what's in Heaven, some might
    say.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The spiritual is the home world of the religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not >>>>>>>>>>>> there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.

    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance.

    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    You still can only talk about your ignorance.

    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it.

    It's all your ignorance speaking.

    Horseshit.

    That's more ignorance speaking.

    On your part.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion.

    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved >>>>>>>>>> them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God >>>>>>>>> doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice
    to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them >>>>>>>> He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules".

    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    They condemn themselves to hell with their own actions. It has nothing >>>>> to do with God.

    He could forgive them, He doesn't. Isn't forgiveness fundamental to
    God being good?

    Forgiveness is never unconditional. Only love is unconditional. Crime
    must be paid to serve justice. It is not to be forgiven with no
    consequences.

    Forgiveness is PART of love. Don't you understand that simple
    concept?

    They are not the same thing.

    One is part of the other.

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly?

    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim
    of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or >>>>>>>> admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?

    You are still talking about your own ignorance.

    No, I'm talking about your inability or unwillingness to provide a
    cite for a simple assertion.

    It's not my responsibility.

    It certainly is. See above about being full of shit.

    Not true.

    Absolutely is true. QED.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Tue Feb 15 22:20:58 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:14:11 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:38, KWills wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You will probably say because there isn't one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each >>>>>>> individual.

    There isn't one.

    Blind denial.

    Prove there is one, then.

    I don't have to.

    If you expect us to believe there is one, then you do.

    I'm not sure what you are asking. What do you want me to prove?

    I expect you to prove, if you can, that God does have a plan for each individual as opposed to each individual having free will to do
    whatever the fuck they want.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 19:57:48 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 17:20, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:14:11 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:38, KWills wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You will probably say because there isn't one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate.

    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each >>>>>>>> individual.

    There isn't one.

    Blind denial.

    Prove there is one, then.

    I don't have to.

    If you expect us to believe there is one, then you do.

    I'm not sure what you are asking. What do you want me to prove?

    I expect you to prove, if you can, that God does have a plan for each individual as opposed to each individual having free will to do
    whatever the fuck they want.

    Not my job. I don't speak for God. You should ask God instead.


    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 19:46:23 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 17:14, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills

    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 19:56:33 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 17:19, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:12:57 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:37, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 12:11:00 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:42, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 10:13:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:18, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:15:17 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 21:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 20:00:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 13:29, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:52:52 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:22, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:21:02 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    I'm talking about the logic I have shown in the above. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's flawed.

    Why?

    Because what God allows or ignores is entirely up to God. What is
    reserved for Heaven may not be appropriate for Earth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Are you saying that God's law is conditional depending on whether it's
    applied to heaven or earth? Where is the justice in that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    How God applies God's law is up to Him. Is that too difficult to
    understand?

    Nothing difficult to understand. It's called justice. Is it difficult to
    understand justice?

    Justice for those who have graduated to Heaven is different from >>>>>>>>>>>>> justice handed out on Earth.

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people
    in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that? >>>>>>>
    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    Not to me. Why is it meaningless to you?

    It's just a word salad with no meaning.

    That only shows your own ignorance.

    No, it doesn't. It shows your meaningless wordplay.

    You are the one playing with the ignorant word salad in your head.

    The word salad was your creation not mine.

    It's only word salad to the clueless.


    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment. >>>>>>>
    Without complaining?

    There is nothing to complain since it's the rightful punishment for >>>>>> their crime.

    Perhaps some were seeking forgiveness which He never gave them?

    Asking forgiveness isn't enough. One has to repent first before one can >>>> stand before God asking for anything. An unrepented sinner can't even
    stand before God let alone asking for anything.

    Most who ask for forgiveness DO repent, knowing that. And STILL end
    up in Hell.

    That is not possible. Repented sinner would never commit crime to fall
    in hell. The crime is the evidence of the sinner's unrepentance.

    The repentance comes after the crime, but perhaps too late to get His forgiveness.

    Repentance is never the easy way out for any crime. True repentance is
    based on the complete commitment to pay for the crime fully.


    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.

    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would >>>>>>>>>>> anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.

    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants >>>>>>> wherever He wants...or not at all.

    It's the requirement of justice. Justice requires the law equally
    applied to all.

    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He
    wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that.

    That's only your imagination.

    That's what omnipotence is all about.

    Only according to your imagination.

    That is how omnipotence is DEFINED.

    That's more of your imagination.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left.

    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on >>>>>>>>>>> Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good. >>>>>>>
    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.

    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident.

    It's merely a blip in the history of life.

    The incident with the Apple was only the first of MILLIONS of similar
    sinful incidents. It was NOT a one off.

    I was talking about the nearly three thousand years blip. It's nothing
    comparing with the eternal life in heaven.

    But Heaven was, by definition, created at the same time as Earth
    (Genesis). Sin will continue on Earth for as long as Heaven exists.

    Sin is only an illusion. It never existed.



    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where >>>>>>>>> the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna
    attitude is that?

    I see evil, and I know it's only an illusion.

    It'll seem real enough when you're the beneficiary of it.

    I don't benefit from evil.

    It's another word for 'victim'.

    No difference to me.


    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an >>>>>>>>>>> unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your
    responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've >>>>>>>>> proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh?
    Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact >>>>>>>> less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do. >>>>>>>
    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you >>>>>>> obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other >>>>>> hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it
    remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion.

    You can't speak for me, and I can't do your job for you.

    I'm beginning to think you're full of shit. Are you?

    More blind denial and willful ignorance.

    On your part. Making shit up and refusing to back it up.

    I can't be responsible for your willful ignorance.


    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    I disagree.

    You're entitled to. But then, you even think evil is an illusion.
    What is YOUR reality?

    The spiritual reality.

    There is an earthly reality all around you, if you care to look.

    That's only an illusion.

    What's around is REAL...more real than what's in Heaven, some might
    say.

    No.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The spiritual is the home world of the religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart.

    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not >>>>>>>>>>>>> there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.

    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance.

    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    You still can only talk about your ignorance.

    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it.

    It's all your ignorance speaking.

    Horseshit.

    That's more ignorance speaking.

    On your part.

    You are the one showing your ignorance.



    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is a theological view.

    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved >>>>>>>>>>> them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God >>>>>>>>>> doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice
    to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them >>>>>>>>> He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules".

    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    They condemn themselves to hell with their own actions. It has nothing >>>>>> to do with God.

    He could forgive them, He doesn't. Isn't forgiveness fundamental to >>>>> God being good?

    Forgiveness is never unconditional. Only love is unconditional. Crime
    must be paid to serve justice. It is not to be forgiven with no
    consequences.

    Forgiveness is PART of love. Don't you understand that simple
    concept?

    They are not the same thing.

    One is part of the other.

    There is a difference.



    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim
    of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or >>>>>>>>> admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?

    You are still talking about your own ignorance.

    No, I'm talking about your inability or unwillingness to provide a
    cite for a simple assertion.

    It's not my responsibility.

    It certainly is. See above about being full of shit.

    Not true.

    Absolutely is true. QED.

    Empty claim.


    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Wed Feb 16 03:03:21 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:56:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:19, KWills wrote:

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people
    in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that? >>>>>>>>
    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    Not to me. Why is it meaningless to you?

    It's just a word salad with no meaning.

    That only shows your own ignorance.

    No, it doesn't. It shows your meaningless wordplay.

    You are the one playing with the ignorant word salad in your head.

    The word salad was your creation not mine.

    It's only word salad to the clueless.

    It's word salad written BY the clueless.

    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment. >>>>>>>>
    Without complaining?

    There is nothing to complain since it's the rightful punishment for >>>>>>> their crime.

    Perhaps some were seeking forgiveness which He never gave them?

    Asking forgiveness isn't enough. One has to repent first before one can >>>>> stand before God asking for anything. An unrepented sinner can't even >>>>> stand before God let alone asking for anything.

    Most who ask for forgiveness DO repent, knowing that. And STILL end
    up in Hell.

    That is not possible. Repented sinner would never commit crime to fall
    in hell. The crime is the evidence of the sinner's unrepentance.

    The repentance comes after the crime, but perhaps too late to get His
    forgiveness.

    Repentance is never the easy way out for any crime. True repentance is
    based on the complete commitment to pay for the crime fully.

    How would someone do that if they're already in Hell?

    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to
    Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life.

    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.

    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants >>>>>>>> wherever He wants...or not at all.

    It's the requirement of justice. Justice requires the law equally >>>>>>> applied to all.

    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He >>>>>> wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that.

    That's only your imagination.

    That's what omnipotence is all about.

    Only according to your imagination.

    That is how omnipotence is DEFINED.

    That's more of your imagination.

    You have a better definition?

    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good. >>>>>>>>
    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.

    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident.

    It's merely a blip in the history of life.

    The incident with the Apple was only the first of MILLIONS of similar
    sinful incidents. It was NOT a one off.

    I was talking about the nearly three thousand years blip. It's nothing
    comparing with the eternal life in heaven.

    But Heaven was, by definition, created at the same time as Earth
    (Genesis). Sin will continue on Earth for as long as Heaven exists.

    Sin is only an illusion. It never existed.

    Sin is all around us. It exists and it's REAL.

    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where >>>>>>>>>> the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna >>>>>> attitude is that?

    I see evil, and I know it's only an illusion.

    It'll seem real enough when you're the beneficiary of it.

    I don't benefit from evil.

    It's another word for 'victim'.

    No difference to me.

    Well then, if you're the victim of evil, you'll see it.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an >>>>>>>>>>>> unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your
    responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've >>>>>>>>>> proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh?
    Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact
    less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do. >>>>>>>>
    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you >>>>>>>> obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other >>>>>>> hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it >>>>>> remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion.

    You can't speak for me, and I can't do your job for you.

    I'm beginning to think you're full of shit. Are you?

    More blind denial and willful ignorance.

    On your part. Making shit up and refusing to back it up.

    I can't be responsible for your willful ignorance.

    I can't be responsible for you making shit up and then refusing to
    validate it with a cite.

    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout.

    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    I disagree.

    You're entitled to. But then, you even think evil is an illusion. >>>>>> What is YOUR reality?

    The spiritual reality.

    There is an earthly reality all around you, if you care to look.

    That's only an illusion.

    What's around is REAL...more real than what's in Heaven, some might
    say.

    No.

    Wake up and smell the coffee, as they say.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The spiritual is the home world of the religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness.

    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance. >>>>>>>>>>
    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    You still can only talk about your ignorance.

    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it.

    It's all your ignorance speaking.

    Horseshit.

    That's more ignorance speaking.

    On your part.

    You are the one showing your ignorance.

    Projection noted.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is a theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved
    them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God
    doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice
    to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them
    He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules". >>>>>>>>
    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    They condemn themselves to hell with their own actions. It has nothing >>>>>>> to do with God.

    He could forgive them, He doesn't. Isn't forgiveness fundamental to >>>>>> God being good?

    Forgiveness is never unconditional. Only love is unconditional. Crime >>>>> must be paid to serve justice. It is not to be forgiven with no
    consequences.

    Forgiveness is PART of love. Don't you understand that simple
    concept?

    They are not the same thing.

    One is part of the other.

    There is a difference.

    Of course there is. Love includes attributes other than forgiveness.

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim
    of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or >>>>>>>>>> admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?

    You are still talking about your own ignorance.

    No, I'm talking about your inability or unwillingness to provide a >>>>>> cite for a simple assertion.

    It's not my responsibility.

    It certainly is. See above about being full of shit.

    Not true.

    Absolutely is true. QED.

    Empty claim.

    On your part. And still no cite.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Wed Feb 16 02:58:45 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:46:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:14, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization. >>>>>>>>>>
    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart. >>>>>>
    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Wed Feb 16 03:04:14 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:57:48 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:20, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:14:11 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:38, KWills wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement.

    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You will probably say because there isn't one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each >>>>>>>>> individual.

    There isn't one.

    Blind denial.

    Prove there is one, then.

    I don't have to.

    If you expect us to believe there is one, then you do.

    I'm not sure what you are asking. What do you want me to prove?

    I expect you to prove, if you can, that God does have a plan for each
    individual as opposed to each individual having free will to do
    whatever the fuck they want.

    Not my job. I don't speak for God. You should ask God instead.

    You said it so you must have had a reason for saying it. What was it?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 23:14:20 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 21:58, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:46:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:14, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization. >>>>>>>>>>>
    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart. >>>>>>>
    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.

    Empty claim.


    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 23:24:58 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 22:04, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:57:48 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:20, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:14:11 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:38, KWills wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You will probably say because there isn't one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each >>>>>>>>>> individual.

    There isn't one.

    Blind denial.

    Prove there is one, then.

    I don't have to.

    If you expect us to believe there is one, then you do.

    I'm not sure what you are asking. What do you want me to prove?

    I expect you to prove, if you can, that God does have a plan for each
    individual as opposed to each individual having free will to do
    whatever the fuck they want.

    Not my job. I don't speak for God. You should ask God instead.

    You said it so you must have had a reason for saying it. What was it?

    It's just my personal experience. Everything I say is based on my
    personal experience in following Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Tue Feb 15 23:22:57 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-15 22:03, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:56:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:19, KWills wrote:

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people
    in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that? >>>>>>>>>
    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    Not to me. Why is it meaningless to you?

    It's just a word salad with no meaning.

    That only shows your own ignorance.

    No, it doesn't. It shows your meaningless wordplay.

    You are the one playing with the ignorant word salad in your head.

    The word salad was your creation not mine.

    It's only word salad to the clueless.

    It's word salad written BY the clueless.

    Only the clueless would call it word salad.



    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment. >>>>>>>>>
    Without complaining?

    There is nothing to complain since it's the rightful punishment for >>>>>>>> their crime.

    Perhaps some were seeking forgiveness which He never gave them?

    Asking forgiveness isn't enough. One has to repent first before one can >>>>>> stand before God asking for anything. An unrepented sinner can't even >>>>>> stand before God let alone asking for anything.

    Most who ask for forgiveness DO repent, knowing that. And STILL end >>>>> up in Hell.

    That is not possible. Repented sinner would never commit crime to fall >>>> in hell. The crime is the evidence of the sinner's unrepentance.

    The repentance comes after the crime, but perhaps too late to get His
    forgiveness.

    Repentance is never the easy way out for any crime. True repentance is
    based on the complete commitment to pay for the crime fully.

    How would someone do that if they're already in Hell?

    It's called paying for the crime committed.


    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would
    anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.

    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants >>>>>>>>> wherever He wants...or not at all.

    It's the requirement of justice. Justice requires the law equally >>>>>>>> applied to all.

    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He >>>>>>> wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that.

    That's only your imagination.

    That's what omnipotence is all about.

    Only according to your imagination.

    That is how omnipotence is DEFINED.

    That's more of your imagination.

    You have a better definition?

    It has nothing to do with omnipotence. It's about justice.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good. >>>>>>>>>
    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.

    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident.

    It's merely a blip in the history of life.

    The incident with the Apple was only the first of MILLIONS of similar >>>>> sinful incidents. It was NOT a one off.

    I was talking about the nearly three thousand years blip. It's nothing >>>> comparing with the eternal life in heaven.

    But Heaven was, by definition, created at the same time as Earth
    (Genesis). Sin will continue on Earth for as long as Heaven exists.

    Sin is only an illusion. It never existed.

    Sin is all around us. It exists and it's REAL.

    Only because people are deceived.


    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night.

    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where >>>>>>>>>>> the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna >>>>>>> attitude is that?

    I see evil, and I know it's only an illusion.

    It'll seem real enough when you're the beneficiary of it.

    I don't benefit from evil.

    It's another word for 'victim'.

    No difference to me.

    Well then, if you're the victim of evil, you'll see it.

    That has nothing to do with your previous point about "benefiting from
    evil".



    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an >>>>>>>>>>>>> unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your
    responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've >>>>>>>>>>> proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh?
    Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact
    less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do. >>>>>>>>>
    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you >>>>>>>>> obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other >>>>>>>> hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it >>>>>>> remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion.

    You can't speak for me, and I can't do your job for you.

    I'm beginning to think you're full of shit. Are you?

    More blind denial and willful ignorance.

    On your part. Making shit up and refusing to back it up.

    I can't be responsible for your willful ignorance.

    I can't be responsible for you making shit up and then refusing to
    validate it with a cite.

    The fact isn't any shit to make up.



    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    I disagree.

    You're entitled to. But then, you even think evil is an illusion. >>>>>>> What is YOUR reality?

    The spiritual reality.

    There is an earthly reality all around you, if you care to look.

    That's only an illusion.

    What's around is REAL...more real than what's in Heaven, some might
    say.

    No.

    Wake up and smell the coffee, as they say.

    That's exactly what you should do.



    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The spiritual is the home world of the religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not
    there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    You still can only talk about your ignorance.

    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it.

    It's all your ignorance speaking.

    Horseshit.

    That's more ignorance speaking.

    On your part.

    You are the one showing your ignorance.

    Projection noted.

    Just pointing out the fact.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is a theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him.

    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved
    them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God
    doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice
    to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them
    He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules". >>>>>>>>>
    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    They condemn themselves to hell with their own actions. It has nothing >>>>>>>> to do with God.

    He could forgive them, He doesn't. Isn't forgiveness fundamental to >>>>>>> God being good?

    Forgiveness is never unconditional. Only love is unconditional. Crime >>>>>> must be paid to serve justice. It is not to be forgiven with no
    consequences.

    Forgiveness is PART of love. Don't you understand that simple
    concept?

    They are not the same thing.

    One is part of the other.

    There is a difference.

    Of course there is. Love includes attributes other than forgiveness.

    I'm glad I made my point.



    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim
    of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or >>>>>>>>>>> admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?

    You are still talking about your own ignorance.

    No, I'm talking about your inability or unwillingness to provide a >>>>>>> cite for a simple assertion.

    It's not my responsibility.

    It certainly is. See above about being full of shit.

    Not true.

    Absolutely is true. QED.

    Empty claim.

    On your part. And still no cite.

    Not my problem or responsibility.


    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Wed Feb 16 13:06:02 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:14:20 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 21:58, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:46:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:14, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart. >>>>>>>>
    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.

    Empty claim.

    Empty evasion.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Wed Feb 16 13:10:59 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:22:57 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 22:03, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:56:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:19, KWills wrote:

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people
    in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that? >>>>>>>>>>
    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    Not to me. Why is it meaningless to you?

    It's just a word salad with no meaning.

    That only shows your own ignorance.

    No, it doesn't. It shows your meaningless wordplay.

    You are the one playing with the ignorant word salad in your head.

    The word salad was your creation not mine.

    It's only word salad to the clueless.

    It's word salad written BY the clueless.

    Only the clueless would call it word salad.

    Only the clueless would 'write' such a word salad.

    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment. >>>>>>>>>>
    Without complaining?

    There is nothing to complain since it's the rightful punishment for >>>>>>>>> their crime.

    Perhaps some were seeking forgiveness which He never gave them? >>>>>>>
    Asking forgiveness isn't enough. One has to repent first before one can >>>>>>> stand before God asking for anything. An unrepented sinner can't even >>>>>>> stand before God let alone asking for anything.

    Most who ask for forgiveness DO repent, knowing that. And STILL end >>>>>> up in Hell.

    That is not possible. Repented sinner would never commit crime to fall >>>>> in hell. The crime is the evidence of the sinner's unrepentance.

    The repentance comes after the crime, but perhaps too late to get His
    forgiveness.

    Repentance is never the easy way out for any crime. True repentance is
    based on the complete commitment to pay for the crime fully.

    How would someone do that if they're already in Hell?

    It's called paying for the crime committed.

    For eternity. So much for God's love and forgiveness, then.

    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would
    anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.

    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants >>>>>>>>>> wherever He wants...or not at all.

    It's the requirement of justice. Justice requires the law equally >>>>>>>>> applied to all.

    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He >>>>>>>> wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that.

    That's only your imagination.

    That's what omnipotence is all about.

    Only according to your imagination.

    That is how omnipotence is DEFINED.

    That's more of your imagination.

    You have a better definition?

    It has nothing to do with omnipotence. It's about justice.

    When you have omnipotence, you can do whatever the fuck you like with
    justice. God has it.

    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants.

    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And yet lots of bad things abound.

    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good. >>>>>>>>>>
    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.

    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident.

    It's merely a blip in the history of life.

    The incident with the Apple was only the first of MILLIONS of similar >>>>>> sinful incidents. It was NOT a one off.

    I was talking about the nearly three thousand years blip. It's nothing >>>>> comparing with the eternal life in heaven.

    But Heaven was, by definition, created at the same time as Earth
    (Genesis). Sin will continue on Earth for as long as Heaven exists.

    Sin is only an illusion. It never existed.

    Sin is all around us. It exists and it's REAL.

    Only because people are deceived.

    Deceived into committing sin?

    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where
    the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna >>>>>>>> attitude is that?

    I see evil, and I know it's only an illusion.

    It'll seem real enough when you're the beneficiary of it.

    I don't benefit from evil.

    It's another word for 'victim'.

    No difference to me.

    Well then, if you're the victim of evil, you'll see it.

    That has nothing to do with your previous point about "benefiting from
    evil".

    Semantics, nothing more.

    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your
    responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've >>>>>>>>>>>> proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh?
    Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact
    less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do. >>>>>>>>>>
    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you >>>>>>>>>> obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other >>>>>>>>> hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it >>>>>>>> remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion.

    You can't speak for me, and I can't do your job for you.

    I'm beginning to think you're full of shit. Are you?

    More blind denial and willful ignorance.

    On your part. Making shit up and refusing to back it up.

    I can't be responsible for your willful ignorance.

    I can't be responsible for you making shit up and then refusing to
    validate it with a cite.

    The fact isn't any shit to make up.

    Foul language noted. That's a fucking sin.

    And it's not a fact until you provide a biblical cite to back it up.

    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town.

    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    I disagree.

    You're entitled to. But then, you even think evil is an illusion. >>>>>>>> What is YOUR reality?

    The spiritual reality.

    There is an earthly reality all around you, if you care to look.

    That's only an illusion.

    What's around is REAL...more real than what's in Heaven, some might
    say.

    No.

    Wake up and smell the coffee, as they say.

    That's exactly what you should do.

    You're obviously incapable or unwilling to do so.

    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The spiritual is the home world of the religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not
    there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    You still can only talk about your ignorance.

    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it.

    It's all your ignorance speaking.

    Horseshit.

    That's more ignorance speaking.

    On your part.

    You are the one showing your ignorance.

    Projection noted.

    Just pointing out the fact.

    No, just projecting your own ignorance.

    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is a theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved
    them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He?

    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God
    doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice
    to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them
    He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules". >>>>>>>>>>
    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    They condemn themselves to hell with their own actions. It has nothing
    to do with God.

    He could forgive them, He doesn't. Isn't forgiveness fundamental to >>>>>>>> God being good?

    Forgiveness is never unconditional. Only love is unconditional. Crime >>>>>>> must be paid to serve justice. It is not to be forgiven with no
    consequences.

    Forgiveness is PART of love. Don't you understand that simple
    concept?

    They are not the same thing.

    One is part of the other.

    There is a difference.

    Of course there is. Love includes attributes other than forgiveness.

    I'm glad I made my point.

    I'm glad I made mine.

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus.

    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim
    of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or >>>>>>>>>>>> admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?

    You are still talking about your own ignorance.

    No, I'm talking about your inability or unwillingness to provide a >>>>>>>> cite for a simple assertion.

    It's not my responsibility.

    It certainly is. See above about being full of shit.

    Not true.

    Absolutely is true. QED.

    Empty claim.

    On your part. And still no cite.

    Not my problem or responsibility.

    Absolutely is, since it was your assertion.
    --
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    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Wed Feb 16 13:11:50 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:24:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 22:04, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:57:48 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:20, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:14:11 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:38, KWills wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You will probably say because there isn't one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen.

    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each >>>>>>>>>>> individual.

    There isn't one.

    Blind denial.

    Prove there is one, then.

    I don't have to.

    If you expect us to believe there is one, then you do.

    I'm not sure what you are asking. What do you want me to prove?

    I expect you to prove, if you can, that God does have a plan for each
    individual as opposed to each individual having free will to do
    whatever the fuck they want.

    Not my job. I don't speak for God. You should ask God instead.

    You said it so you must have had a reason for saying it. What was it?

    It's just my personal experience. Everything I say is based on my
    personal experience in following Jesus.

    Personal anecdotes count for jack shit in theology.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Wed Feb 16 09:57:13 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-16 08:10, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:22:57 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 22:03, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:56:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:19, KWills wrote:

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people
    in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that? >>>>>>>>>>>
    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    Not to me. Why is it meaningless to you?

    It's just a word salad with no meaning.

    That only shows your own ignorance.

    No, it doesn't. It shows your meaningless wordplay.

    You are the one playing with the ignorant word salad in your head.

    The word salad was your creation not mine.

    It's only word salad to the clueless.

    It's word salad written BY the clueless.

    Only the clueless would call it word salad.

    Only the clueless would 'write' such a word salad.

    So says the clueless.


    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Without complaining?

    There is nothing to complain since it's the rightful punishment for >>>>>>>>>> their crime.

    Perhaps some were seeking forgiveness which He never gave them? >>>>>>>>
    Asking forgiveness isn't enough. One has to repent first before one can
    stand before God asking for anything. An unrepented sinner can't even >>>>>>>> stand before God let alone asking for anything.

    Most who ask for forgiveness DO repent, knowing that. And STILL end >>>>>>> up in Hell.

    That is not possible. Repented sinner would never commit crime to fall >>>>>> in hell. The crime is the evidence of the sinner's unrepentance.

    The repentance comes after the crime, but perhaps too late to get His >>>>> forgiveness.

    Repentance is never the easy way out for any crime. True repentance is >>>> based on the complete commitment to pay for the crime fully.

    How would someone do that if they're already in Hell?

    It's called paying for the crime committed.

    For eternity. So much for God's love and forgiveness, then.

    No. It's based on the justice of God's law.


    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would
    anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.

    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants >>>>>>>>>>> wherever He wants...or not at all.

    It's the requirement of justice. Justice requires the law equally >>>>>>>>>> applied to all.

    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He >>>>>>>>> wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that.

    That's only your imagination.

    That's what omnipotence is all about.

    Only according to your imagination.

    That is how omnipotence is DEFINED.

    That's more of your imagination.

    You have a better definition?

    It has nothing to do with omnipotence. It's about justice.

    When you have omnipotence, you can do whatever the fuck you like with justice. God has it.

    Allowing evil is not omnipotence. It's the exact opposite omnipotence.



    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And yet lots of bad things abound. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They have nothing to do with God.

    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules.

    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good.

    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.

    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident.

    It's merely a blip in the history of life.

    The incident with the Apple was only the first of MILLIONS of similar >>>>>>> sinful incidents. It was NOT a one off.

    I was talking about the nearly three thousand years blip. It's nothing >>>>>> comparing with the eternal life in heaven.

    But Heaven was, by definition, created at the same time as Earth
    (Genesis). Sin will continue on Earth for as long as Heaven exists.

    Sin is only an illusion. It never existed.

    Sin is all around us. It exists and it's REAL.

    Only because people are deceived.

    Deceived into committing sin?

    Yes.



    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where
    the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna >>>>>>>>> attitude is that?

    I see evil, and I know it's only an illusion.

    It'll seem real enough when you're the beneficiary of it.

    I don't benefit from evil.

    It's another word for 'victim'.

    No difference to me.

    Well then, if you're the victim of evil, you'll see it.

    That has nothing to do with your previous point about "benefiting from
    evil".

    Semantics, nothing more.

    You are not making yourself clear.


    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Then it's only an illogical behavior.

    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your
    responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've >>>>>>>>>>>>> proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh?
    Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact
    less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do. >>>>>>>>>>>
    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you >>>>>>>>>>> obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other
    hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it >>>>>>>>> remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion.

    You can't speak for me, and I can't do your job for you.

    I'm beginning to think you're full of shit. Are you?

    More blind denial and willful ignorance.

    On your part. Making shit up and refusing to back it up.

    I can't be responsible for your willful ignorance.

    I can't be responsible for you making shit up and then refusing to
    validate it with a cite.

    The fact isn't any shit to make up.

    Foul language noted. That's a fucking sin.

    Just pointing out the fact.


    And it's not a fact until you provide a biblical cite to back it up.

    Blind denial.


    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town. >>>>>>>>>>>
    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone.

    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    I disagree.

    You're entitled to. But then, you even think evil is an illusion. >>>>>>>>> What is YOUR reality?

    The spiritual reality.

    There is an earthly reality all around you, if you care to look.

    That's only an illusion.

    What's around is REAL...more real than what's in Heaven, some might
    say.

    No.

    Wake up and smell the coffee, as they say.

    That's exactly what you should do.

    You're obviously incapable or unwilling to do so.

    It's the clueless that needs to wake up.


    Are we clear?

    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view.

    You've just been spouting them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The spiritual is the home world of the religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not sure what that even means.

    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not
    there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    You still can only talk about your ignorance.

    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it.

    It's all your ignorance speaking.

    Horseshit.

    That's more ignorance speaking.

    On your part.

    You are the one showing your ignorance.

    Projection noted.

    Just pointing out the fact.

    No, just projecting your own ignorance.

    The clueless is the real ignorant.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is a theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position.

    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved
    them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God
    doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice
    to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them
    He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules". >>>>>>>>>>>
    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    They condemn themselves to hell with their own actions. It has nothing
    to do with God.

    He could forgive them, He doesn't. Isn't forgiveness fundamental to >>>>>>>>> God being good?

    Forgiveness is never unconditional. Only love is unconditional. Crime >>>>>>>> must be paid to serve justice. It is not to be forgiven with no >>>>>>>> consequences.

    Forgiveness is PART of love. Don't you understand that simple
    concept?

    They are not the same thing.

    One is part of the other.

    There is a difference.

    Of course there is. Love includes attributes other than forgiveness.

    I'm glad I made my point.

    I'm glad I made mine.

    No, you didn't.



    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim
    of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or
    admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?

    You are still talking about your own ignorance.

    No, I'm talking about your inability or unwillingness to provide a >>>>>>>>> cite for a simple assertion.

    It's not my responsibility.

    It certainly is. See above about being full of shit.

    Not true.

    Absolutely is true. QED.

    Empty claim.

    On your part. And still no cite.

    Not my problem or responsibility.

    Absolutely is, since it was your assertion.

    That only shows your ignorance. Fact is not my assertion.


    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Wed Feb 16 09:27:44 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-16 08:06, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:14:20 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 21:58, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:46:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:14, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart. >>>>>>>>>
    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.

    Empty claim.

    Empty evasion.

    No evasion.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Wed Feb 16 20:06:07 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:57:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 08:11, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:24:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 22:04, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:57:48 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:20, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:14:11 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 13:38, KWills wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You will probably say because there isn't one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each
    individual.

    There isn't one.

    Blind denial.

    Prove there is one, then.

    I don't have to.

    If you expect us to believe there is one, then you do.

    I'm not sure what you are asking. What do you want me to prove?

    I expect you to prove, if you can, that God does have a plan for each >>>>>> individual as opposed to each individual having free will to do
    whatever the fuck they want.

    Not my job. I don't speak for God. You should ask God instead.

    You said it so you must have had a reason for saying it. What was it?

    It's just my personal experience. Everything I say is based on my
    personal experience in following Jesus.

    Personal anecdotes count for jack shit in theology.

    Experience in life can never be denied.

    Different people have different experiences therefore they cannot be a
    basis for theology.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Wed Feb 16 20:05:31 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:27:44 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 08:06, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:14:20 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 21:58, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:46:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:14, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Aha! So you don't even go to choich?


    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart. >>>>>>>>>>
    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.

    Empty claim.

    Empty evasion.

    No evasion.

    Heap evasion. I'll try again: are you a Christian, yes or no?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Wed Feb 16 16:05:18 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-16 15:05, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:27:44 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 08:06, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:14:20 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 21:58, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:46:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:14, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so?


    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.

    Empty claim.

    Empty evasion.

    No evasion.

    Heap evasion. I'll try again: are you a Christian, yes or no?

    I have answered that question.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/




    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Wed Feb 16 16:23:23 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-16 15:06, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:57:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 08:11, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:24:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 22:04, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:57:48 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:20, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:14:11 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 13:38, KWills wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng?

    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You will probably say because there isn't one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each
    individual.

    There isn't one.

    Blind denial.

    Prove there is one, then.

    I don't have to.

    If you expect us to believe there is one, then you do.

    I'm not sure what you are asking. What do you want me to prove? >>>>>>>
    I expect you to prove, if you can, that God does have a plan for each >>>>>>> individual as opposed to each individual having free will to do
    whatever the fuck they want.

    Not my job. I don't speak for God. You should ask God instead.

    You said it so you must have had a reason for saying it. What was it? >>>>
    It's just my personal experience. Everything I say is based on my
    personal experience in following Jesus.

    Personal anecdotes count for jack shit in theology.

    Experience in life can never be denied.

    Different people have different experiences therefore they cannot be a
    basis for theology.

    The spiritual experience is all the same to everyone since the spiritual
    things in my signature are same to everyone.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Wed Feb 16 16:22:28 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-16 15:05, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:57:13 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 08:10, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:22:57 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 22:03, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:56:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 17:19, KWills wrote:

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people
    in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    Not to me. Why is it meaningless to you?

    It's just a word salad with no meaning.

    That only shows your own ignorance.

    No, it doesn't. It shows your meaningless wordplay.

    You are the one playing with the ignorant word salad in your head. >>>>>>>
    The word salad was your creation not mine.

    It's only word salad to the clueless.

    It's word salad written BY the clueless.

    Only the clueless would call it word salad.

    Only the clueless would 'write' such a word salad.

    So says the clueless.

    Yes, you just did.

    You are the clueless to what I said.


    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Without complaining?

    There is nothing to complain since it's the rightful punishment for
    their crime.

    Perhaps some were seeking forgiveness which He never gave them? >>>>>>>>>>
    Asking forgiveness isn't enough. One has to repent first before one can
    stand before God asking for anything. An unrepented sinner can't even
    stand before God let alone asking for anything.

    Most who ask for forgiveness DO repent, knowing that. And STILL end >>>>>>>>> up in Hell.

    That is not possible. Repented sinner would never commit crime to fall >>>>>>>> in hell. The crime is the evidence of the sinner's unrepentance. >>>>>>>
    The repentance comes after the crime, but perhaps too late to get His >>>>>>> forgiveness.

    Repentance is never the easy way out for any crime. True repentance is >>>>>> based on the complete commitment to pay for the crime fully.

    How would someone do that if they're already in Hell?

    It's called paying for the crime committed.

    For eternity. So much for God's love and forgiveness, then.

    No. It's based on the justice of God's law.

    Where's the justice in eternal damnation?

    Eternal damnation is based on the eternal forsaking and abandonment of
    God. It's the result of the eternal loss of the ability to believe in
    God again.


    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would
    anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.

    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants
    wherever He wants...or not at all.

    It's the requirement of justice. Justice requires the law equally >>>>>>>>>>>> applied to all.

    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He >>>>>>>>>>> wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that.

    That's only your imagination.

    That's what omnipotence is all about.

    Only according to your imagination.

    That is how omnipotence is DEFINED.

    That's more of your imagination.

    You have a better definition?

    It has nothing to do with omnipotence. It's about justice.

    When you have omnipotence, you can do whatever the fuck you like with
    justice. God has it.

    Allowing evil is not omnipotence. It's the exact opposite omnipotence.

    Omnipotence means allowing or disallowing anything the fuck you want.

    Evil is not an ability. Evil is the result of disability. It has nothing
    to do with God's omnipotence.


    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible.

    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And yet lots of bad things abound. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They have nothing to do with God. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good.

    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.

    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident.

    It's merely a blip in the history of life.

    The incident with the Apple was only the first of MILLIONS of similar >>>>>>>>> sinful incidents. It was NOT a one off.

    I was talking about the nearly three thousand years blip. It's nothing >>>>>>>> comparing with the eternal life in heaven.

    But Heaven was, by definition, created at the same time as Earth >>>>>>> (Genesis). Sin will continue on Earth for as long as Heaven exists. >>>>>>
    Sin is only an illusion. It never existed.

    Sin is all around us. It exists and it's REAL.

    Only because people are deceived.

    Deceived into committing sin?

    Yes.

    So you agree it's real.

    It's the result of being deceived. It's a lie. It can't be real.


    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark.

    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun.

    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where
    the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna >>>>>>>>>>> attitude is that?

    I see evil, and I know it's only an illusion.

    It'll seem real enough when you're the beneficiary of it.

    I don't benefit from evil.

    It's another word for 'victim'.

    No difference to me.

    Well then, if you're the victim of evil, you'll see it.

    That has nothing to do with your previous point about "benefiting from >>>> evil".

    Semantics, nothing more.

    You are not making yourself clear.

    I cannot make it any clearer.

    I don't see your point.


    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic.

    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Then it's only an illogical behavior. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your
    responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've
    proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh?
    Why not just admit you made it up and move on?

    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact
    less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you >>>>>>>>>>>>> obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other
    hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it >>>>>>>>>>> remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion.

    You can't speak for me, and I can't do your job for you.

    I'm beginning to think you're full of shit. Are you?

    More blind denial and willful ignorance.

    On your part. Making shit up and refusing to back it up.

    I can't be responsible for your willful ignorance.

    I can't be responsible for you making shit up and then refusing to
    validate it with a cite.

    The fact isn't any shit to make up.

    Foul language noted. That's a fucking sin.

    Just pointing out the fact.

    There wasn't one and there won't be one until you provide a biblical
    cite.

    Not my responsibility.



    And it's not a fact until you provide a biblical cite to back it up.

    Blind denial.

    Blind bullshitting.

    So says the blind and in denial.


    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day.

    I have no idea what you are talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    I disagree.

    You're entitled to. But then, you even think evil is an illusion. >>>>>>>>>>> What is YOUR reality?

    The spiritual reality.

    There is an earthly reality all around you, if you care to look. >>>>>>>>
    That's only an illusion.

    What's around is REAL...more real than what's in Heaven, some might >>>>>>> say.

    No.

    Wake up and smell the coffee, as they say.

    That's exactly what you should do.

    You're obviously incapable or unwilling to do so.

    It's the clueless that needs to wake up.

    So take your own advice.

    So says the clueless.


    Are we clear? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You've just been spouting them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The spiritual is the home world of the religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not sure what that even means. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not
    there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    You still can only talk about your ignorance.

    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it.

    It's all your ignorance speaking.

    Horseshit.

    That's more ignorance speaking.

    On your part.

    You are the one showing your ignorance.

    Projection noted.

    Just pointing out the fact.

    No, just projecting your own ignorance.

    The clueless is the real ignorant.

    Are you looking in the mirror now?

    You should look in a mirror.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is a theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved
    them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God
    doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice
    to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them
    He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity.

    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules". >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    They condemn themselves to hell with their own actions. It has nothing
    to do with God.

    He could forgive them, He doesn't. Isn't forgiveness fundamental to
    God being good?

    Forgiveness is never unconditional. Only love is unconditional. Crime
    must be paid to serve justice. It is not to be forgiven with no >>>>>>>>>> consequences.

    Forgiveness is PART of love. Don't you understand that simple >>>>>>>>> concept?

    They are not the same thing.

    One is part of the other.

    There is a difference.

    Of course there is. Love includes attributes other than forgiveness. >>>>
    I'm glad I made my point.

    I'm glad I made mine.

    No, you didn't.

    Then neither did you.

    Too late. I already did.


    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim
    of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or
    admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?

    You are still talking about your own ignorance.

    No, I'm talking about your inability or unwillingness to provide a >>>>>>>>>>> cite for a simple assertion.

    It's not my responsibility.

    It certainly is. See above about being full of shit.

    Not true.

    Absolutely is true. QED.

    Empty claim.

    On your part. And still no cite.

    Not my problem or responsibility.

    Absolutely is, since it was your assertion.

    That only shows your ignorance. Fact is not my assertion.

    Your 'fact' only becomes a 'fact' when it's validated. Until then, it remains an assertion.

    More blind denial.


    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Thu Feb 17 00:01:14 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:05:18 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 15:05, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:27:44 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 08:06, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:14:20 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 21:58, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:46:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 17:14, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.

    Empty claim.

    Empty evasion.

    No evasion.

    Heap evasion. I'll try again: are you a Christian, yes or no?

    I have answered that question.

    You have evaded it by saying you're a 'believer', whatever the fuck
    that means.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Wed Feb 16 20:28:13 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-16 19:01, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:05:18 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 15:05, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:27:44 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 08:06, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:14:20 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 21:58, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:46:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 17:14, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning

    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual.

    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ.

    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.

    Empty claim.

    Empty evasion.

    No evasion.

    Heap evasion. I'll try again: are you a Christian, yes or no?

    I have answered that question.

    You have evaded it by saying you're a 'believer', whatever the fuck
    that means.

    Find a dictionary.


    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Wed Feb 16 20:38:19 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-16 19:01, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:23:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 15:06, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:57:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 08:11, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:24:58 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 22:04, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:57:48 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 17:20, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:14:11 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 13:38, KWills wrote:

    Well, MX, you're Christ. Why don't you miraculously heal
    people of their gender dysphoria? A little dirt and
    spittle on their penis, and *poof*!! they get new
    chromasomes, new plumbing, or a whole new attitude.

    What do you say? Is it moral for a christ to do good or
    evil on the ng? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You misunderstand God. God does not interfere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Lol. There's an understatement. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Is there?

    Do you know why God doesn't interfere? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You will probably say because there isn't one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You must be psychic.

    I suppose you've got one hiding in your back pocket?

    One what? A God?

    Yeah, but a demigod, spirit, or even a demon would be
    impressive.

    I just looked in both back pockets and there's nothing like that.

    Christs are already a dime a dozen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Only one real one, though.

    The one in your heart.

    For those who believe in Him.

    Of course.

    And only for those.

    That's between them and Christ. I would not speculate. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You already have.

    No, I have not.

    Yes, you have.

    No, I don't judge, and I don't pretend to know God's plan for each
    individual.

    There isn't one.

    Blind denial.

    Prove there is one, then.

    I don't have to.

    If you expect us to believe there is one, then you do.

    I'm not sure what you are asking. What do you want me to prove? >>>>>>>>>
    I expect you to prove, if you can, that God does have a plan for each >>>>>>>>> individual as opposed to each individual having free will to do >>>>>>>>> whatever the fuck they want.

    Not my job. I don't speak for God. You should ask God instead.

    You said it so you must have had a reason for saying it. What was it? >>>>>>
    It's just my personal experience. Everything I say is based on my
    personal experience in following Jesus.

    Personal anecdotes count for jack shit in theology.

    Experience in life can never be denied.

    Different people have different experiences therefore they cannot be a
    basis for theology.

    The spiritual experience is all the same to everyone since the spiritual
    things in my signature are same to everyone.

    No two people have the same spiritual experience, therefore no.

    Love is all the same to everyone.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Wed Feb 16 20:37:34 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-16 19:01, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:22:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 15:05, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:57:13 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 08:10, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:22:57 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 22:03, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:56:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 17:19, KWills wrote:

    Nonsense. It's the same God's law.

    He can hand it out how He chooses. Do you expect Him to give people
    in Hell justice?

    According to the truth, absolutely.

    What does that even mean?

    It's justice based on truth. Is there anything wrong about that?

    It's meaningless, that's what's wrong with it.

    Not to me. Why is it meaningless to you?

    It's just a word salad with no meaning.

    That only shows your own ignorance.

    No, it doesn't. It shows your meaningless wordplay.

    You are the one playing with the ignorant word salad in your head. >>>>>>>>>
    The word salad was your creation not mine.

    It's only word salad to the clueless.

    It's word salad written BY the clueless.

    Only the clueless would call it word salad.

    Only the clueless would 'write' such a word salad.

    So says the clueless.

    Yes, you just did.

    You are the clueless to what I said.

    You are the clueless saying it.

    So says the clueless.


    It's why no one can complain about
    God's judgment.

    Tell that to the people in Hell.

    They can't deny the truth, so they have to accept the judgment.

    Without complaining?

    There is nothing to complain since it's the rightful punishment for
    their crime.

    Perhaps some were seeking forgiveness which He never gave them? >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Asking forgiveness isn't enough. One has to repent first before one can
    stand before God asking for anything. An unrepented sinner can't even
    stand before God let alone asking for anything.

    Most who ask for forgiveness DO repent, knowing that. And STILL end
    up in Hell.

    That is not possible. Repented sinner would never commit crime to fall
    in hell. The crime is the evidence of the sinner's unrepentance. >>>>>>>>>
    The repentance comes after the crime, but perhaps too late to get His >>>>>>>>> forgiveness.

    Repentance is never the easy way out for any crime. True repentance is >>>>>>>> based on the complete commitment to pay for the crime fully.

    How would someone do that if they're already in Hell?

    It's called paying for the crime committed.

    For eternity. So much for God's love and forgiveness, then.

    No. It's based on the justice of God's law.

    Where's the justice in eternal damnation?

    Eternal damnation is based on the eternal forsaking and abandonment of
    God. It's the result of the eternal loss of the ability to believe in
    God again.

    How can anyone, even God, foresee an eternal loss of the ability to
    believe in Him?

    Who cares?



    Otherwise, why would anyone want to go to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heaven?

    Because it's God's grace and precious gift of life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And if it was the same as Earth, as you seem to suggest, why would
    anyone give a shit?

    It isn't the same as the fallen Earth. It's the infallible heavenly life.

    And it works by different rules than Earth.

    God's law is always the same to everyone.

    Prove it. A Supreme Being can, by definition, do whatever He wants
    wherever He wants...or not at all.

    It's the requirement of justice. Justice requires the law equally
    applied to all.

    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He
    wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that.

    That's only your imagination.

    That's what omnipotence is all about.

    Only according to your imagination.

    That is how omnipotence is DEFINED.

    That's more of your imagination.

    You have a better definition?

    It has nothing to do with omnipotence. It's about justice.

    When you have omnipotence, you can do whatever the fuck you like with >>>>> justice. God has it.

    Allowing evil is not omnipotence. It's the exact opposite omnipotence.

    Omnipotence means allowing or disallowing anything the fuck you want.

    Evil is not an ability. Evil is the result of disability. It has nothing
    to do with God's omnipotence.

    And if God wanted to He could eliminate that disability and its
    results. He hasn't.

    The problem is the people. You can't blame God for that.



    God is omnipotent, He can do whatever the fuck He
    wants, wherever He wants. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Allowing bad things is not being omnipotent. Omnipotence means there is
    no bad thing possible. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Omnipotence means *anything* is possible. That's what 'omni' means!

    Since God is good, omnipotence means God has made all things good.
    therefore, there is no bad thing left. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And yet lots of bad things abound. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    They have nothing to do with God. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course they do. He didn't stop them happening, did He?

    You don't know that. That is only your presumption. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    If He had stopped them happening, they wouldn't have happened, would
    they?

    That is exactly why there is no sin or evil in heaven. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Because God exercises His powers in Heaven in a way He doesn't do on
    Earth!

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good.

    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.

    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's merely a blip in the history of life.

    The incident with the Apple was only the first of MILLIONS of similar
    sinful incidents. It was NOT a one off.

    I was talking about the nearly three thousand years blip. It's nothing
    comparing with the eternal life in heaven.

    But Heaven was, by definition, created at the same time as Earth >>>>>>>>> (Genesis). Sin will continue on Earth for as long as Heaven exists. >>>>>>>>
    Sin is only an illusion. It never existed.

    Sin is all around us. It exists and it's REAL.

    Only because people are deceived.

    Deceived into committing sin?

    Yes.

    So you agree it's real.

    It's the result of being deceived. It's a lie. It can't be real.

    It's not only real, its effects on others are real. See under World
    Wars.

    It's still just a lie. By believing the lie, great evil is committed,
    but the lie will always be a lie.




    God is like the sun,
    and evil is like the darkness of the night. Whenever there is the sun,
    there can't be the darkness of the night. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    And yet the darkness of the night inevitably follows the light of day.

    The sun will always shine.

    Until you can't see it and it gets dark. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is only the illusion on Earth.

    So what do YOU see when it gets dark?

    It doesn't matter whether I can see the sun. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    But you can see the darkness of the night, can't you? That's where
    the evil lies.

    It's only an illusion.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'?

    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna
    attitude is that?

    I see evil, and I know it's only an illusion.

    It'll seem real enough when you're the beneficiary of it. >>>>>>>>>>
    I don't benefit from evil.

    It's another word for 'victim'.

    No difference to me.

    Well then, if you're the victim of evil, you'll see it.

    That has nothing to do with your previous point about "benefiting from >>>>>> evil".

    Semantics, nothing more.

    You are not making yourself clear.

    I cannot make it any clearer.

    I don't see your point.

    Of course you don't. Because you're just trolling.

    Just being honest.



    That is not an answer to my question. Where is the logic for someone to
    do good without believing good in the first place? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Perhaps there is something intrinsic in human nature that wants to do
    good?

    You need to justify the logic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, I don't. It's fundamental human behaviour. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Then it's only an illogical behavior. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There's nothing illogical about it. It is what it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's empty claim. You don't even dare to face the logic.

    Speaking of empty claims, what about your claim that Jesus said only
    God is good?

    It's not a claim. It's fact.

    In that case, provide the cite. Until you do, it remains an
    unsupported claim.

    I don't need to support a fact. Fact is already evident, and it's your
    responsibility to verify.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've
    proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh?
    Why not just admit you made it up and move on? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact
    less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do.

    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you
    obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other
    hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it
    remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion.

    You can't speak for me, and I can't do your job for you. >>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm beginning to think you're full of shit. Are you?

    More blind denial and willful ignorance.

    On your part. Making shit up and refusing to back it up.

    I can't be responsible for your willful ignorance.

    I can't be responsible for you making shit up and then refusing to >>>>>>> validate it with a cite.

    The fact isn't any shit to make up.

    Foul language noted. That's a fucking sin.

    Just pointing out the fact.

    There wasn't one and there won't be one until you provide a biblical
    cite.

    Not my responsibility.

    Absolutely yours. If I were to say God has a green face, would you
    accept that as fact or aks me to prove it?

    That is obviously untrue. Everybody knows that. I don't need to ask you anything.



    And it's not a fact until you provide a biblical cite to back it up.

    Blind denial.

    Blind bullshitting.

    So says the blind and in denial.

    So says the serial bullshitter.

    I made my point.


    Try this on an atheist and you'll be laughed out of town. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    To be clear, the bad thing in this fallen world is not by God's
    permission. The bad thing is the result and the consequence of human
    sin. Since sin is never by the permission of God, the result of human
    sin should never be by the permission of God either.

    And God does not interfere to stop sin. Why can't He?

    Because the sinner doesn't want to repent his sin to turn back to God.

    God clearly has more clout than some deluded sinner. Yet He chooses
    no to exercise that clout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You don't know that. You don't know what God has planned for everyone,
    and God does have a perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have said before that God has no plan: He doesn't interfere. He
    lets Nature take its course, whatever that course turns out to be.

    I believe differently. I believe God sees all and knows all with great
    wisdom and love for all his creations. Therefore, God must have a
    perfect plan for everyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That perfect plan is a hands off non-interference platform. We see
    the results every day. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I have no idea what you are talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There is no perfect plan for everyone because God does not interfere.

    That is only your ignorance speaking. Without God interfering by giving
    his support, the world wouldn't exist, and life wouldn't function.

    You're talking about Creation. OK, we know He created the Earth. After
    that it was all hands off.

    That is only an assumption.

    We see the effects all around us, so there is empirical evidence.

    It's only a make believe.

    It's reality. Deal with it.

    Make believe is no reality.

    Reality is not make believe.

    It's no reality.

    What you see around you pretty much is,

    It's still your assumption.

    It's there and it's real. Nothing to assume.

    I disagree.

    You're entitled to. But then, you even think evil is an illusion.
    What is YOUR reality?

    The spiritual reality.

    There is an earthly reality all around you, if you care to look. >>>>>>>>>>
    That's only an illusion.

    What's around is REAL...more real than what's in Heaven, some might >>>>>>>>> say.

    No.

    Wake up and smell the coffee, as they say.

    That's exactly what you should do.

    You're obviously incapable or unwilling to do so.

    It's the clueless that needs to wake up.

    So take your own advice.

    So says the clueless.

    Yes, you just did.

    You are still the clueless.


    Are we clear? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Far from it. Your theological views have long been discounted by just
    about every major religion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Exactly what theological view are you talking about? I have no
    theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You've just been spouting them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It doesn't have to be religious. It's spiritual which means it's good
    for everyone.

    It's based on the existence of a God so it has to be religious.

    Since God rules in every aspect of our life, it's more than religious.

    Is spiritual more than religious, then? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The spiritual is the home world of the religious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not sure what that even means. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The spiritual world is also called heaven. Heaven is the home of the
    faithful.

    And yet the spiritual world exists on Earth too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Of course, because it is in everyone's heart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Except in the hearts of those who don't embrace it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That doesn't mean it's not existent. It only shows the individual's
    inability to embrace it.

    Inability or deliberate unwillingness. In either case, it's not
    there.

    That's only due to one's own mistake and blindness. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Regardless, it's not there.

    Blind denial is only the evidence of one's own ignorance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Again regardless, it's not there.

    That's called willful ignorance.

    Perhaps, but it's still not there.

    You still can only talk about your ignorance.

    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it.

    It's all your ignorance speaking.

    Horseshit.

    That's more ignorance speaking.

    On your part.

    You are the one showing your ignorance.

    Projection noted.

    Just pointing out the fact.

    No, just projecting your own ignorance.

    The clueless is the real ignorant.

    Are you looking in the mirror now?

    You should look in a mirror.

    Would I see you?

    You will see the clueless.


    I only have my personal spiritual view based on my
    understanding of the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is a theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I prefer to consider it as my spiritual view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's still a theological view reagardless of your preference.

    That is limiting my broader spiritual and philosophical view.

    So be it.

    Therefore, you need to adapt to my broader spiritual view.

    Or you need to adapt to my narrow theological view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why?

    Because it's more relevant to the discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's better to have a spiritual and philosophical discussion.

    That sounds like an atheist position. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm sure God loves all people who love the truth. God doesn't judge
    people according to the human or the earthly standard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God hates atheists. I would too if I were Him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God loves all his creations despite their errors and mistakes. That's
    why God is a loving God.

    God condemns some people to Hell...why would He do that if He loved
    them? God does not love the Devil. Why would He? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's your misunderstanding. God is always good and never evil. God
    doesn't condemn people to hell. People fall in hell by their own choice
    to abandon God and God's helping hands.

    People who don't follow God's rules end up in Hell. If He loved them
    He wouldn't condemn them to Hell for eternity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can't blame God for "people who don't follow God's rules". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Can you blame God for condemning them to Hell?

    They condemn themselves to hell with their own actions. It has nothing
    to do with God.

    He could forgive them, He doesn't. Isn't forgiveness fundamental to
    God being good?

    Forgiveness is never unconditional. Only love is unconditional. Crime
    must be paid to serve justice. It is not to be forgiven with no >>>>>>>>>>>> consequences.

    Forgiveness is PART of love. Don't you understand that simple >>>>>>>>>>> concept?

    They are not the same thing.

    One is part of the other.

    There is a difference.

    Of course there is. Love includes attributes other than forgiveness. >>>>>>
    I'm glad I made my point.

    I'm glad I made mine.

    No, you didn't.

    Then neither did you.

    Too late. I already did.

    That sounds more and more like fake %.

    I'm glad I made my point.



    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to. I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact. "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    When and where?

    Google is your friend.

    Evasion noted. Yours too. Possibly your ONLY friend.

    I have made myself clear.

    But without having provided a cite to back up your claim.

    Only because it's too basic.

    What kind of feeble excuse is that?

    It's surprising you would claim not to know the basic teaching of Jesus.

    It's even more surprising that you appear unable to back up this claim
    of yours with a cite.

    It's no claim. It's fact. I only need to present the fact. No one needs
    to prove a fact that is already proven.

    It's no fact. It's an assertion. Either prove it (if you can) or
    admit you made it up.

    Blind denial.

    You made it up, didn't you?

    You are still talking about your own ignorance.

    No, I'm talking about your inability or unwillingness to provide a
    cite for a simple assertion.

    It's not my responsibility.

    It certainly is. See above about being full of shit.

    Not true.

    Absolutely is true. QED.

    Empty claim.

    On your part. And still no cite.

    Not my problem or responsibility.

    Absolutely is, since it was your assertion.

    That only shows your ignorance. Fact is not my assertion.

    Your 'fact' only becomes a 'fact' when it's validated. Until then, it
    remains an assertion.

    More blind denial.

    More factless assertion.

    More blind denial.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Thu Feb 17 13:54:53 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:28:13 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 19:01, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:05:18 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 15:05, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:27:44 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 08:06, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:14:20 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 21:58, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:46:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 17:14, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You are connected to Christianity, though?

    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.

    Empty claim.

    Empty evasion.

    No evasion.

    Heap evasion. I'll try again: are you a Christian, yes or no?

    I have answered that question.

    You have evaded it by saying you're a 'believer', whatever the fuck
    that means.

    Find a dictionary.

    More evasion.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Feb 17 10:06:01 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-17 08:54, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:28:13 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 19:01, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:05:18 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 15:05, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:27:44 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 08:06, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:14:20 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 21:58, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:46:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 17:14, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it.

    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That would make you religious, then.

    No. I have no connection with any religious organization. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You are connected to Christianity, though? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then.


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though.

    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.

    Empty claim.

    Empty evasion.

    No evasion.

    Heap evasion. I'll try again: are you a Christian, yes or no?

    I have answered that question.

    You have evaded it by saying you're a 'believer', whatever the fuck
    that means.

    Find a dictionary.

    More evasion.

    No evasion.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Feb 17 10:20:56 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-17 08:54, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:37:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 19:01, KWills wrote:

    It's word salad written BY the clueless.

    Only the clueless would call it word salad.

    Only the clueless would 'write' such a word salad.

    So says the clueless.

    Yes, you just did.

    You are the clueless to what I said.

    You are the clueless saying it.

    So says the clueless.

    Yes, you just did.

    So says the clueless.


    Repentance is never the easy way out for any crime. True repentance is
    based on the complete commitment to pay for the crime fully. >>>>>>>>>
    How would someone do that if they're already in Hell?

    It's called paying for the crime committed.

    For eternity. So much for God's love and forgiveness, then.

    No. It's based on the justice of God's law.

    Where's the justice in eternal damnation?

    Eternal damnation is based on the eternal forsaking and abandonment of >>>> God. It's the result of the eternal loss of the ability to believe in
    God again.

    How can anyone, even God, foresee an eternal loss of the ability to
    believe in Him?

    Who cares?

    Classic troll line.

    No, a perfectly logical question to a meaningless and pointless question.



    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He
    wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's only your imagination.

    That's what omnipotence is all about.

    Only according to your imagination.

    That is how omnipotence is DEFINED.

    That's more of your imagination.

    You have a better definition?

    It has nothing to do with omnipotence. It's about justice.

    When you have omnipotence, you can do whatever the fuck you like with >>>>>>> justice. God has it.

    Allowing evil is not omnipotence. It's the exact opposite omnipotence. >>>>>
    Omnipotence means allowing or disallowing anything the fuck you want. >>>>
    Evil is not an ability. Evil is the result of disability. It has nothing >>>> to do with God's omnipotence.

    And if God wanted to He could eliminate that disability and its
    results. He hasn't.

    The problem is the people. You can't blame God for that.

    God created them. He can prevent them doing evil if He wants to but apparently He doesn't give a shit.

    False. You can't blame God when the sinner chooses to sin.



    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules.

    Heaven is good but not because of different rules. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth.

    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good.

    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long.

    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's merely a blip in the history of life.

    The incident with the Apple was only the first of MILLIONS of similar
    sinful incidents. It was NOT a one off.

    I was talking about the nearly three thousand years blip. It's nothing
    comparing with the eternal life in heaven.

    But Heaven was, by definition, created at the same time as Earth >>>>>>>>>>> (Genesis). Sin will continue on Earth for as long as Heaven exists.

    Sin is only an illusion. It never existed.

    Sin is all around us. It exists and it's REAL.

    Only because people are deceived.

    Deceived into committing sin?

    Yes.

    So you agree it's real.

    It's the result of being deceived. It's a lie. It can't be real.

    It's not only real, its effects on others are real. See under World
    Wars.

    It's still just a lie. By believing the lie, great evil is committed,
    but the lie will always be a lie.

    How can the reality of evil be a lie? Aren't two World Wars enough
    evidence for you? Are you trying to say they never happened???

    Evil is never any reality. Evil is the destruction and the denying of
    reality. Since the true reality can never denied or destroyed, the evil destruction is only an illusion.



    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna
    attitude is that?

    I see evil, and I know it's only an illusion.

    It'll seem real enough when you're the beneficiary of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't benefit from evil.

    It's another word for 'victim'.

    No difference to me.

    Well then, if you're the victim of evil, you'll see it.

    That has nothing to do with your previous point about "benefiting from >>>>>>>> evil".

    Semantics, nothing more.

    You are not making yourself clear.

    I cannot make it any clearer.

    I don't see your point.

    Of course you don't. Because you're just trolling.

    Just being honest.

    You mean evasive, surely.

    No.



    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've
    proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh?
    Why not just admit you made it up and move on? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact
    less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do.

    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you
    obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other
    hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it
    remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can't speak for me, and I can't do your job for you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm beginning to think you're full of shit. Are you? >>>>>>>>>>>>
    More blind denial and willful ignorance.

    On your part. Making shit up and refusing to back it up. >>>>>>>>>>
    I can't be responsible for your willful ignorance.

    I can't be responsible for you making shit up and then refusing to >>>>>>>>> validate it with a cite.

    The fact isn't any shit to make up.

    Foul language noted. That's a fucking sin.

    Just pointing out the fact.

    There wasn't one and there won't be one until you provide a biblical >>>>> cite.

    Not my responsibility.

    Absolutely yours. If I were to say God has a green face, would you
    accept that as fact or aks me to prove it?

    That is obviously untrue. Everybody knows that. I don't need to ask you
    anything.

    It's every bit as true as your unproven assertion. Feel free to prove otherwise.

    Empty claim.


    And it's not a fact until you provide a biblical cite to back it up. >>>>>>
    Blind denial.

    Blind bullshitting.

    So says the blind and in denial.

    So says the serial bullshitter.

    I made my point.

    A bullshit point.

    What's around is REAL...more real than what's in Heaven, some might >>>>>>>>>>> say.

    No.

    Wake up and smell the coffee, as they say.

    That's exactly what you should do.

    You're obviously incapable or unwilling to do so.

    It's the clueless that needs to wake up.

    So take your own advice.

    So says the clueless.

    Yes, you just did.

    You are still the clueless.

    So claims the clueless troll. Oh the irony!

    You are still the clueless.


    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it.

    It's all your ignorance speaking.

    Horseshit.

    That's more ignorance speaking.

    On your part.

    You are the one showing your ignorance.

    Projection noted.

    Just pointing out the fact.

    No, just projecting your own ignorance.

    The clueless is the real ignorant.

    Are you looking in the mirror now?

    You should look in a mirror.

    Would I see you?

    You will see the clueless.

    What the fuck would you be doing in my mirror??????

    You are the clueless.




    Forgiveness is PART of love. Don't you understand that simple >>>>>>>>>>>>> concept?

    They are not the same thing.

    One is part of the other.

    There is a difference.

    Of course there is. Love includes attributes other than forgiveness.

    I'm glad I made my point.

    I'm glad I made mine.

    No, you didn't.

    Then neither did you.

    Too late. I already did.

    That sounds more and more like fake %.

    I'm glad I made my point.

    I'm glad you 'think' you did, but you didn't.

    Blind denial.


    Empty claim.

    On your part. And still no cite.

    Not my problem or responsibility.

    Absolutely is, since it was your assertion.

    That only shows your ignorance. Fact is not my assertion.

    Your 'fact' only becomes a 'fact' when it's validated. Until then, it >>>>> remains an assertion.

    More blind denial.

    More factless assertion.

    More blind denial.

    More evasion. Either prove it or STFU.

    More blind denial.


    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Feb 17 10:03:14 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-17 08:54, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:38:19 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 19:01, KWills wrote:

    I expect you to prove, if you can, that God does have a plan for each
    individual as opposed to each individual having free will to do >>>>>>>>>>> whatever the fuck they want.

    Not my job. I don't speak for God. You should ask God instead. >>>>>>>>>
    You said it so you must have had a reason for saying it. What was it?

    It's just my personal experience. Everything I say is based on my >>>>>>>> personal experience in following Jesus.

    Personal anecdotes count for jack shit in theology.

    Experience in life can never be denied.

    Different people have different experiences therefore they cannot be a >>>>> basis for theology.

    The spiritual experience is all the same to everyone since the spiritual >>>> things in my signature are same to everyone.

    No two people have the same spiritual experience, therefore no.

    Love is all the same to everyone.

    No, it is experienced differently by everone.

    Everybody's life is different, but love is all the same.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Thu Feb 17 17:36:31 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:06:01 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-17 08:54, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:28:13 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 19:01, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:05:18 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 15:05, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:27:44 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 2022-02-16 08:06, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:14:20 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 21:58, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:46:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 17:14, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That would make you religious, then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No. I have no connection with any religious organization. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You are connected to Christianity, though? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.

    Empty claim.

    Empty evasion.

    No evasion.

    Heap evasion. I'll try again: are you a Christian, yes or no?

    I have answered that question.

    You have evaded it by saying you're a 'believer', whatever the fuck
    that means.

    Find a dictionary.

    More evasion.

    No evasion.

    Nothing but evasion. Answer the question finally.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Feb 17 14:18:33 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-17 12:36, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:03:14 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-17 08:54, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:38:19 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 19:01, KWills wrote:

    I expect you to prove, if you can, that God does have a plan for each
    individual as opposed to each individual having free will to do >>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever the fuck they want.

    Not my job. I don't speak for God. You should ask God instead. >>>>>>>>>>>
    You said it so you must have had a reason for saying it. What was it?

    It's just my personal experience. Everything I say is based on my >>>>>>>>>> personal experience in following Jesus.

    Personal anecdotes count for jack shit in theology.

    Experience in life can never be denied.

    Different people have different experiences therefore they cannot be a >>>>>>> basis for theology.

    The spiritual experience is all the same to everyone since the spiritual >>>>>> things in my signature are same to everyone.

    No two people have the same spiritual experience, therefore no.

    Love is all the same to everyone.

    No, it is experienced differently by everone.

    Everybody's life is different, but love is all the same.

    How the fuck can it be?

    Because it's a simple fact.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Feb 17 14:20:08 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-17 12:36, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:20:56 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-17 08:54, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:37:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 19:01, KWills wrote:

    It's word salad written BY the clueless.

    Only the clueless would call it word salad.

    Only the clueless would 'write' such a word salad.

    So says the clueless.

    Yes, you just did.

    You are the clueless to what I said.

    You are the clueless saying it.

    So says the clueless.

    Yes, you just did.

    So says the clueless.

    Yes, you just did say so.

    Repentance is never the easy way out for any crime. True repentance is
    based on the complete commitment to pay for the crime fully. >>>>>>>>>>>
    How would someone do that if they're already in Hell?

    It's called paying for the crime committed.

    For eternity. So much for God's love and forgiveness, then.

    No. It's based on the justice of God's law.

    Where's the justice in eternal damnation?

    Eternal damnation is based on the eternal forsaking and abandonment of >>>>>> God. It's the result of the eternal loss of the ability to believe in >>>>>> God again.

    How can anyone, even God, foresee an eternal loss of the ability to
    believe in Him?

    Who cares?

    Classic troll line.

    No, a perfectly logical question to a meaningless and pointless question.

    No logic behind it whatsoever. Not really into this theology shit,
    are you?

    On Earth, yes, in theory. But God can do whatever He wants. If He
    wants to eliminate evil from Heaven He can do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's only your imagination.

    That's what omnipotence is all about.

    Only according to your imagination.

    That is how omnipotence is DEFINED.

    That's more of your imagination.

    You have a better definition?

    It has nothing to do with omnipotence. It's about justice.

    When you have omnipotence, you can do whatever the fuck you like with >>>>>>>>> justice. God has it.

    Allowing evil is not omnipotence. It's the exact opposite omnipotence. >>>>>>>
    Omnipotence means allowing or disallowing anything the fuck you want. >>>>>>
    Evil is not an ability. Evil is the result of disability. It has nothing >>>>>> to do with God's omnipotence.

    And if God wanted to He could eliminate that disability and its
    results. He hasn't.

    The problem is the people. You can't blame God for that.

    God created them. He can prevent them doing evil if He wants to but
    apparently He doesn't give a shit.

    False. You can't blame God when the sinner chooses to sin.

    God could stop the sinner sinning but He chooses not to.

    Pure speculation.

    Far from it. In Heaven, we are taught that all is Good. Not so on
    Earth. Same God, different rules. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Heaven is good but not because of different rules. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    God has MADE Heaven good...unlike Earth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not according to the Bible. The Bible says God made the Earth good.

    Didn't last long, did it?

    Actually, the fall of man didn't happen long. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's been happening since the Garden of Eden incident. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's merely a blip in the history of life.

    The incident with the Apple was only the first of MILLIONS of similar
    sinful incidents. It was NOT a one off.

    I was talking about the nearly three thousand years blip. It's nothing
    comparing with the eternal life in heaven.

    But Heaven was, by definition, created at the same time as Earth >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Genesis). Sin will continue on Earth for as long as Heaven exists.

    Sin is only an illusion. It never existed.

    Sin is all around us. It exists and it's REAL.

    Only because people are deceived.

    Deceived into committing sin?

    Yes.

    So you agree it's real.

    It's the result of being deceived. It's a lie. It can't be real.

    It's not only real, its effects on others are real. See under World >>>>> Wars.

    It's still just a lie. By believing the lie, great evil is committed,
    but the lie will always be a lie.

    How can the reality of evil be a lie? Aren't two World Wars enough
    evidence for you? Are you trying to say they never happened???

    Evil is never any reality. Evil is the destruction and the denying of
    reality. Since the true reality can never denied or destroyed, the evil
    destruction is only an illusion.

    What a load of horseshit.

    Darkness is an illusion? Like 'trangendering'? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Evil is only an illusion, yes.

    You don't see evil in the world around you? What sort of Polyanna
    attitude is that?

    I see evil, and I know it's only an illusion.

    It'll seem real enough when you're the beneficiary of it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't benefit from evil.

    It's another word for 'victim'.

    No difference to me.

    Well then, if you're the victim of evil, you'll see it.

    That has nothing to do with your previous point about "benefiting from
    evil".

    Semantics, nothing more.

    You are not making yourself clear.

    I cannot make it any clearer.

    I don't see your point.

    Of course you don't. Because you're just trolling.

    Just being honest.

    You mean evasive, surely.

    No.

    You surely do.

    You presented it as an assertion. It becomes a fact after you've
    proved it, which remains your responsibility. Pretty basic stuff, eh?
    Why not just admit you made it up and move on? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's your misunderstanding. It's already a fact. I can't make a fact
    less than a fact. It will always be a fact no matter what I do.

    It's not a fact until you confirm it by verifying it. Which you
    obviously can't.

    I don't need to verify it. I already know the fact. You, on the other
    hand, are a different story.

    Again, it's not a fact until you prove it's a fact. Until then, it
    remains an unproven (possibly made up) assertion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You can't speak for me, and I can't do your job for you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I'm beginning to think you're full of shit. Are you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    More blind denial and willful ignorance.

    On your part. Making shit up and refusing to back it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    I can't be responsible for your willful ignorance.

    I can't be responsible for you making shit up and then refusing to >>>>>>>>>>> validate it with a cite.

    The fact isn't any shit to make up.

    Foul language noted. That's a fucking sin.

    Just pointing out the fact.

    There wasn't one and there won't be one until you provide a biblical >>>>>>> cite.

    Not my responsibility.

    Absolutely yours. If I were to say God has a green face, would you
    accept that as fact or aks me to prove it?

    That is obviously untrue. Everybody knows that. I don't need to ask you >>>> anything.

    It's every bit as true as your unproven assertion. Feel free to prove
    otherwise.

    Empty claim.

    No more so than yours.

    And it's not a fact until you provide a biblical cite to back it up. >>>>>>>>
    Blind denial.

    Blind bullshitting.

    So says the blind and in denial.

    So says the serial bullshitter.

    I made my point.

    A bullshit point.

    What's around is REAL...more real than what's in Heaven, some might
    say.

    No.

    Wake up and smell the coffee, as they say.

    That's exactly what you should do.

    You're obviously incapable or unwilling to do so.

    It's the clueless that needs to wake up.

    So take your own advice.

    So says the clueless.

    Yes, you just did.

    You are still the clueless.

    So claims the clueless troll. Oh the irony!

    You are still the clueless.

    Says a troll who won't support his assertions. Ironic.

    My ignorance (if any) has nothing to do with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's all your ignorance speaking.

    Horseshit.

    That's more ignorance speaking.

    On your part.

    You are the one showing your ignorance.

    Projection noted.

    Just pointing out the fact.

    No, just projecting your own ignorance.

    The clueless is the real ignorant.

    Are you looking in the mirror now?

    You should look in a mirror.

    Would I see you?

    You will see the clueless.

    What the fuck would you be doing in my mirror??????

    You are the clueless.

    I don't see you in my mirror.

    Forgiveness is PART of love. Don't you understand that simple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concept?

    They are not the same thing.

    One is part of the other.

    There is a difference.

    Of course there is. Love includes attributes other than forgiveness.

    I'm glad I made my point.

    I'm glad I made mine.

    No, you didn't.

    Then neither did you.

    Too late. I already did.

    That sounds more and more like fake %.

    I'm glad I made my point.

    I'm glad you 'think' you did, but you didn't.

    Blind denial.

    Blind bullshitting.

    Empty claim.

    On your part. And still no cite.

    Not my problem or responsibility.

    Absolutely is, since it was your assertion.

    That only shows your ignorance. Fact is not my assertion.

    Your 'fact' only becomes a 'fact' when it's validated. Until then, it >>>>>>> remains an assertion.

    More blind denial.

    More factless assertion.

    More blind denial.

    More evasion. Either prove it or STFU.

    More blind denial.

    More blind bullshitting.

    More blind denial

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Feb 17 14:19:25 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-17 12:36, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:06:01 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-17 08:54, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:28:13 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 19:01, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:05:18 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-16 15:05, KWills wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:27:44 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-16 08:06, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:14:20 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 21:58, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:46:23 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2022-02-15 17:14, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:59:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 13:32, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:55:34 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 11:36, KWills wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-15 09:13, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 23:03:28 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 21:23, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:48:07 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 13:20, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:39:21 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 12:16, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:06:46 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-14 08:31, KWills wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:21:12 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    When Jesus said that only God is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good, I have to believe it and make sure my thinking is based
    on it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Where did He say that exactly? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I don't remember. I'm sure you can google it yourself.

    I'm not going to.  I'd expect you to do it since you made (up?) the
    claim.

    It's not a claim. It's a fact you can check out yourself. I can't be
    responsible for your own facts. That is beyond my ability.

    It wasn't my fact.  "Jesus said that only God is good" was YOUR fact.
    Now back it up or admit you made it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No, it's the teaching of Jesus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    did you see where i defeated the kwills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That's nice, but have you given thanks to God? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    i was in church all morning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It's easier to worship in God's living Church. It's 24/7.

    Aha! So you don't even go to choich? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I'm not religious. I'm spiritual. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    :-)

    Ah, an atheist! Why didn't you say so? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Wrong. I'm a believer of Jesus Christ. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That would make you religious, then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No. I have no connection with any religious organization.

    You are connected to Christianity, though? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    To Jesus Christ, yes.

    One of the major branches of religion, then. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.

    Empty claim.

    Empty evasion.

    No evasion.

    Heap evasion. I'll try again: are you a Christian, yes or no?

    I have answered that question.

    You have evaded it by saying you're a 'believer', whatever the fuck
    that means.

    Find a dictionary.

    More evasion.

    No evasion.

    Nothing but evasion. Answer the question finally.

    No evasion. Look it up.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?U2NpZW50aWZpYyAoc2hlL2hlc@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Feb 17 20:25:00 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2/13/22 23:43, KWills wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 21:11:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/11/22 19:05, KWills wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:54:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/7/22 11:37 PM, KWills wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:57:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ?
    <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    Being 'trans' is a physical impossibility so talking about it being >>>>>>> harmful or not is absolutely pointless.

    Yes, it is possible.

    No, it is absolutely impossible, as a DNA test will show.

    It is also a social possibility with changes like
    your name, clothing, make-up, voice training. It's not an all-or-nothing >>>>>> journey - for example, I chose to change my name, clothing, voice and >>>>>> left out makeup.

    And at the end of all that, you still won't find a man you can fool
    into thinking you're a woman.

    I don't need to fool anyone that I'm a woman, I'm just one.

    Don't be absurd. Of course you're not. You're a man - a delusional
    one, but still a man. Women don't got dicks!

    Unless they're trans women.

    No such creatures exist in reality.

    Read it, but don't post because you'll probably get instantly banned: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://old.reddit.com/r/MtF

    I don't read any such woke shite.

    You just show how ignorant you are.

    Ignorant? This from a delusional asshole who rejects the scientific >>>>>>>>> FACTS of DNA! Simply incredible!

    If you believe that we say that "biological sex isn't real", then bingo
    - you just gave yourself away as a TERF.

    I don't care what labels you put on it, reality is reality and
    biological sex is the ONLY sex that matters.

    Well, it matters, when you want to have children, in medicine and in >>>>>> sports. College swimmer Lia Thomas has been getting a lot of shit simply >>>>>> because she is a trans woman.

    If this horseshit continues, that's the end of women's sports. There >>>>> will only be unisex sports and the males will always win.

    Well, only the people who are best suited, regardless of their sex,
    should be able to compete.

    And that will almost always be males, except for faggy stuff like
    figure skating and possibly gymnastics.

    Figure skating and women's gymnastics is one of exceptions where women
    have it better.

    Precisely. And that may be all.

    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The >>>>>>>>> reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you >>>>>>>>> will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.

    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting >>>>>>> off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that >>>>>>> don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or >>>>>> taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose. >>>>>
    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting
    something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your
    body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    There is some amount of estrogen of your body, isn't it? HRT isn't that >>>> risky as you think according to currently existing research.

    Some is OK, but you're overdosing on massive amounts which can't
    possibly be good.

    Blood clotting is rare, but it happens.

    It's relatively new, so it's probably causing other side effects that
    we don't even know about yet.

    Yes, we don't know, but the same can be said with COVID-19 vaccine.
    Hormone therapy is evidence-based and is effective, at least short-term.
    We don't know about long-term effects, but you don't even know whether
    you'll live to see tomorrow.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Thu Feb 17 20:50:17 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 14:19:25 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-17 12:36, KWills wrote:


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.

    Empty claim.

    Empty evasion.

    No evasion.

    Heap evasion. I'll try again: are you a Christian, yes or no? >>>>>>>
    I have answered that question.

    You have evaded it by saying you're a 'believer', whatever the fuck >>>>>> that means.

    Find a dictionary.

    More evasion.

    No evasion.

    Nothing but evasion. Answer the question finally.

    No evasion. Look it up.

    I know what it means and it doesn't answer my question.

    Are you BLACK or something?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to science@danwin1210.de on Thu Feb 17 22:06:32 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide, alt.support.srs

    On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 20:25:00 +0000, Scientific (he/him) ? <science@danwin1210.de> wrote:

    On 2/13/22 23:43, KWills wrote:4

    You're resistant to reason just like
    the TERF cult is.

    How ironic, coming from someone who is resistant to reality. The >>>>>>>>>> reality in your case is that you were born male, you are male and you
    will alway be male. No matter how many bits (if any) you have cut off
    and no matter how many hormones you poison yourself with.

    You call surgery "cutting bits off" and hormone therapy "poisoning", how
    more transphobic you can get than that?

    How else can you effect a penectomy or a castration other than cutting >>>>>>>> off the offending items? And flooding your body with hormones that >>>>>>>> don't belong there can only be poisoning.

    Hormone poisoning is very rare. If you are careful when injecting or >>>>>>> taking pills, then it is very unlikely, provided you use the right dose.

    I don't mean poisoning in the sense of sudden death from ingesting >>>>>> something toxic. I mean poisoning in the sense of fucking up your >>>>>> body, which non-native hormones will inevitably do.

    There is some amount of estrogen of your body, isn't it? HRT isn't that >>>>> risky as you think according to currently existing research.

    Some is OK, but you're overdosing on massive amounts which can't
    possibly be good.

    Blood clotting is rare, but it happens.

    It's relatively new, so it's probably causing other side effects that
    we don't even know about yet.

    Yes, we don't know, but the same can be said with COVID-19 vaccine.

    True as far as it goes.

    Hormone therapy is evidence-based and is effective, at least short-term.
    We don't know about long-term effects, but you don't even know whether
    you'll live to see tomorrow.

    Some of you freaks are going to have to live a LOOOOOOOONG time with
    the long term effects.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Thu Feb 17 22:06:39 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide, alt.support.srs

    On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 14:18:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-17 12:36, KWills wrote:

    I expect you to prove, if you can, that God does have a plan for each
    individual as opposed to each individual having free will to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever the fuck they want.

    Not my job. I don't speak for God. You should ask God instead. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    You said it so you must have had a reason for saying it. What was it?

    It's just my personal experience. Everything I say is based on my >>>>>>>>>>> personal experience in following Jesus.

    Personal anecdotes count for jack shit in theology.

    Experience in life can never be denied.

    Different people have different experiences therefore they cannot be a >>>>>>>> basis for theology.

    The spiritual experience is all the same to everyone since the spiritual
    things in my signature are same to everyone.

    No two people have the same spiritual experience, therefore no.

    Love is all the same to everyone.

    No, it is experienced differently by everone.

    Everybody's life is different, but love is all the same.

    How the fuck can it be?

    Because it's a simple fact.

    Another one of your 'simple facts' with no proof whatsoever.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Feb 17 18:30:17 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-17 15:50, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 14:19:25 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-17 12:36, KWills wrote:


    Christ doesn't live in religion. Christ lives in everyone's heart.

    Religion (much of it) lives in Christ, though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So are you or are you not a Christian?


    I'm a believer. I belong to God alone.

    Evasion noted.

    That is an honest answer. There is no evasion.

    It's a dishonest answer reeking of evasion.

    No.

    Is too.

    Empty claim.

    Empty evasion.

    No evasion.

    Heap evasion. I'll try again: are you a Christian, yes or no? >>>>>>>>
    I have answered that question.

    You have evaded it by saying you're a 'believer', whatever the fuck >>>>>>> that means.

    Find a dictionary.

    More evasion.

    No evasion.

    Nothing but evasion. Answer the question finally.

    No evasion. Look it up.

    I know what it means and it doesn't answer my question.

    If you know the meaning, you know the question has been answered.



    Are you BLACK or something?
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Feb 17 18:28:38 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide

    On 2022-02-17 15:50, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 14:20:08 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-17 12:36, KWills wrote:

    Empty claim.

    On your part. And still no cite.

    Not my problem or responsibility.

    Absolutely is, since it was your assertion.

    That only shows your ignorance. Fact is not my assertion.

    Your 'fact' only becomes a 'fact' when it's validated. Until then, it
    remains an assertion.

    More blind denial.

    More factless assertion.

    More blind denial.

    More evasion. Either prove it or STFU.

    More blind denial.

    More blind bullshitting.

    More blind denial

    More belligerent blind bullshitting.

    Stop talking to the mirror.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From aaa@21:1/5 to KWills on Thu Feb 17 18:31:04 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide, alt.support.srs

    On 2022-02-17 17:06, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 14:18:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-17 12:36, KWills wrote:

    I expect you to prove, if you can, that God does have a plan for each
    individual as opposed to each individual having free will to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever the fuck they want.

    Not my job. I don't speak for God. You should ask God instead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You said it so you must have had a reason for saying it. What was it?

    It's just my personal experience. Everything I say is based on my >>>>>>>>>>>> personal experience in following Jesus.

    Personal anecdotes count for jack shit in theology.

    Experience in life can never be denied.

    Different people have different experiences therefore they cannot be a
    basis for theology.

    The spiritual experience is all the same to everyone since the spiritual
    things in my signature are same to everyone.

    No two people have the same spiritual experience, therefore no.

    Love is all the same to everyone.

    No, it is experienced differently by everone.

    Everybody's life is different, but love is all the same.

    How the fuck can it be?

    Because it's a simple fact.

    Another one of your 'simple facts' with no proof whatsoever.

    The fact is already the proof.

    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/


    --
    God's spiritual evidence:

    Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

    God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
    Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
    It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
    It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

    Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
    Christ!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From KWills@21:1/5 to aaa on Fri Feb 18 02:06:34 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.transgendered, alt.support.depression
    XPost: alt.support.suicide, alt.support.srs

    On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 18:31:04 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-17 17:06, KWills wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 14:18:33 -0500, aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> wrote:

    On 2022-02-17 12:36, KWills wrote:

    I expect you to prove, if you can, that God does have a plan for each
    individual as opposed to each individual having free will to do
    whatever the fuck they want.

    Not my job. I don't speak for God. You should ask God instead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You said it so you must have had a reason for saying it. What was it?

    It's just my personal experience. Everything I say is based on my >>>>>>>>>>>>> personal experience in following Jesus.

    Personal anecdotes count for jack shit in theology.

    Experience in life can never be denied.

    Different people have different experiences therefore they cannot be a
    basis for theology.

    The spiritual experience is all the same to everyone since the spiritual
    things in my signature are same to everyone.

    No two people have the same spiritual experience, therefore no. >>>>>>>
    Love is all the same to everyone.

    No, it is experienced differently by everone.

    Everybody's life is different, but love is all the same.

    How the fuck can it be?

    Because it's a simple fact.

    Another one of your 'simple facts' with no proof whatsoever.

    The fact is already the proof.

    More nonsensical doubletalk.
    --
    KWills
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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