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Divorce after 50: What I wish I had known beforehand
Published: Jan 16, 2018 12:44 p.m. ET
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Advice for navigating a late-in-life split
Divorce after 50 can be costly, transformative and scary.
By
CLAIRE
ZULKEY
This article is reprinted by permission from NextAvenue.org.
Divorce is never easy, but couples over 50 who end their marriages face particular hurdles. Below, people who went through a late-in-life
divorce share six things they would tell their younger selves, offering
ways others can learn from their experiences:
“I wish I had known how the divorce would impact my oldest children even more than my youngest still at home.” Gail Konop, a 57-year-old yoga
studio owner whose 2011 divorce ended a 25-year marriage, said her son
who lived at home slowly got used to her new reality, which wasn’t as
easy for her adult daughters. “He got to see us as individuals living in his life. He saw how there was less stress, and he got used to it. But
my daughters are coming home periodically and they couldn’t keep up with the changes.” At one point, Konop says her daughter announced, “I don’t want to come home anymore — it’s so weird.” If you’re considering a divorce and kids are involved, don’t assume you are sparing your
children by holding on, only to divorce once they’re out of the house.
“I wish I’d explored the job market before I separated; I think I would have worked harder to try to keep the marriage together if I’d realized just how bleak things are out here.” For older adults, especially women
who have been out of the workforce, re-entering it can be more even more challenging than they expect. Look into getting advice from financial
and career counselors to consider your options for long- and short-term planning post-divorce. Beth Hodges, a family law attorney at Horack
Talley in Charlotte, N.C ., says the input of those experts can be
helpful when negotiating the amount of alimony and property settlement.
“Sometimes when we’re negotiating, I have a client who wants to get her degree to increase her earning capacity. We’ll find out what the cost
would be to go back to school and get statistics on what type of income
my client can expect to receive once she finishes,” which then gets
figured into the settlement package, so the main breadwinner will pay
for her education instead of alimony.
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“I wish I had known how painful it would be.” Kelly James, a ghostwriter who was 50 when she divorced after 19 years of marriage, was surprised
by how long it took her to adjust to the loneliness of living alone.
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“Even if you don’t have the happiest of marriages, there’s something comforting about having someone in your home, your bed. I’m lonely sometimes and miss being part of a twosome,” says James. “It’s also difficult to not have my kids with me all the time — their dad and I do
a good job of co-parenting, but I miss them when they’re at his house.”
In addition to suggesting the pursuit of new hobbies and volunteer opportunities, Hodges recommends therapists to her clients as a way of helping them adjust to their new life. “[Divorce] is a very traumatic, life-rattling experience, especially if you’ve been married for 25 to 35 years,” says Hodges. She reassures her clients that in time, they’ll not only recover, but emerge stronger. “[Divorce] can be transformative,” says Hodges. She tells her clients, “‘You’re going to survive and feel better about yourself and about your future.’ Almost to a person they’ll come back to me and say, ‘You were absolutely right.’”
“I didn’t think my friends would actually bail on me, but I was wrong.” Lynn Cohen, a Chicago-area divorce attorney who serves on the board of
the women’s divorce support nonprofit The Lilac Tree, sees it all the
time with her older female clients: “A lot of their friends cut them off — even their best friends. You might keep one or two close friends, but that whole crowd is not going to be there. They’ll help you while you’re going through [the divorce] but not after it’s done.”
She advises her clients to get ahead of this social shift and be
proactive about expanding their networks by joining groups that set up
travel opportunities for single people, and by volunteering. “If you’re not active in your community and giving back, you’re kind of by yourself,” Cohen notes. She also cautions against relying too heavily on divorced friends. “Every divorce is a different set of facts and circumstances and must be viewed individually. They’ll say, ‘When I was divorced, I was able to get everything in the house.’ That’s unnerving and usually bad advice. I tell people that they’re going to have to make their own life,” says Cohen.
“I wish I had known how expensive it would be.” James was shocked that her uncontested, relatively conflict-free collaborative divorce still
cost nearly $35,000.
“In retrospect, a ‘traditional’ would have probably been a lot less expensive,” she says. Collaborative divorce eschews adversarial
strategies and litigation. Cohen advises consulting a divorce attorney
as soon as a client suspects she or he may need one to get a jump on
figuring out how to pay for the divorce and life after. Alimony may be
sparse if a couple already living on retirement savings splits, so
would-be divorcées may need time for their exit strategy.
Hodges has a simple tip when it comes to saving divorce attorney fees:
stay off the phone. “Sometimes clients run up their bills because
they’re constantly calling us and engaging us in half-hour
consultations. We’re there to counsel and provide guidance to a client,
but there is a cost,” says Hodges.
The first thing you should do when hiring an attorney, she says, is “Ask questions about the attorney’s billing practices, how the lawyer
charges. If there are things you can do for the attorneys, like
gathering financial information, you can save money by doing that yourself.”
“I wish I had known how liberating it would be — and how that can be a little scary.” Says Konop: “Being only responsible for myself (and my kids) has let me make decisions based on what I want. From little
decisions like what to hang on the wall of my house to bigger ones like
where to travel and what kinds of projects to do on the house, is all up
to me. That feels good but can also be overwhelming. It was like I had a second adolescence. I had so much fun, I knew myself so much better. At first, it was really nerve-racking and the dating world had changed. It
was energizing (until it got exhausting.)”
Claire Zulkey is a freelance writer in Evanston, IL. She is the author
of the young adult novel “An Off Year,” and runs the longstanding
Chicago reading series Funny Ha-Ha. You can learn much more about her by going to Zulkey.com
This article is reprinted by permission from NextAvenue.org, © 2017 Twin Cities Public Television, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Clark Magnuson 7 hours ago
Getting married and staying married is associated with wealth and
happiness.
But like getting a college degree is associated with a lot of positive things, the key to understanding is "What kind of person GETS a college degree?" just like "What kind of person gets married and stays married?"
The 10% of blacks that get married and stay married are doing as well as whites that get married and stay married.
What kind of person are you?
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Ronald Stasch 2 days ago
I wish I had known how much happier I would be. 30 years in an icebox
and suddenly being in the warm sunlight. It takes guts to venture into
the unknown, but you have a chance to create the life you imagined as a kid. You can do anything, go anywhere. Don't buy a dog, they hold you back. You'll be amazed at how cheaply you can live anywhere in the
world and how much sex is out there.
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James Faulkner 2 days ago
@Ronald Stasch My exact experience there, my friend. My lawyer and a long-time, divorced friend both told me "The day you get divorced will
be the happiest day of your life". It didn't feel that way when I left
the courthouse. But within months I was banging a hot, younger girl and venturing off to intriguing places I always wanted to visit, like Berlin
and Bangkok. My ex had trouble with all the fun I was having in fact,
despite getting to keep pretty much everything. And the co-worker she immediately attached herself to the day after filing for divorce, turned
out to have less money and less prospects than I did. That part alone,
was worth the price of admission.
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No Partisans 1 day ago
@James Faulkner @Ronald Stasch
"And the co-worker she immediately attached herself to the day after
filing for divorce, turned out to have less money and less prospects
than I did."
You mean the guy she was cheating on you with, banging the whole time.
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gregg bartels 3 days ago
I'm single.
I was a traveling sales rep in the apparel industry and had a lot of
mentors along the way and all that got married had miserable divorces.
I only have a few " happily " married "friends", when you are single
the married stay away.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/divorce-after-50-what-i-wish-i-had-known-beforehand-2017-12-06
Roddy Pfeiffer 3 days ago
After the divorce you find out how many people you thought were your
friends were friends of you and the ex as a couple. They drift away
soon, leaving you with very true friends. After 50 you will have trouble
making friends, for a lot of reasons.
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James Faulkner 2 days ago
@Roddy Pfeiffer I didn't have that problem. Rather I had to start
trying to rekindle old friendships and rebuild my social circle. This
was because my ex was non-social, extremely jealous, didn't like me to
have my own friends and couldn't handle me being out unsupervised. After
my divorce, I was able to reconnect with a few old friends and make
better friends with those who were once mere acquaintances. Others were
too gone in their own direction to have any interest in reviving our friendship. This wasn't always so bad, as I could see that they were
often mired too deep in their own b.s. or trapped in another crippling
marriage of their own. Now, at age 60, I think making new friends
actually will actually mean having real friends I can trust instead of
friends to party with.
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Rodger Bowers 3 days ago
IN 1978, my law professor started on Contract Law. He said, American's
enter contracts almost everyday of the week, can any of you name any
type of Contracts? No one could answer. Finally he said,
Marriage in America is Contract, Just like People that go into Business.
He stated Politicians to confuse people substituted the word License for Contract.
This is all it is so People forget your Vows, they mean Nothing in
Divorce Court standing in front of a Judge in a Court of Law. Also
Contracts must be desolved in a Court of Law. Again The Politicians
confused People and Called this Leagal Procedure Divorce.
After that day I realized what I had done a couple months earlier and I
swore I would never allow that to happen again.
My divorce occurred in 1985, I've Never Singed Another Marriage
Contract. I'm not Dumb as Dirt!
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Dan Green 4 days ago
As Robin Williams joked." Divorce is like dragging your testicles
through your wallet" No matter how you cut it splitting a whole in half
is an event most never recover from. Only Hollywood pulls off successful
divorces.
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mike kramer 8 days ago
Its expensive...If you cant afford it fake it.
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Joe Cool Jan 4, 2018
For the most part these people sound clueless about what they had
so of course they are clueless about how their new reality turned out.
Also not surprising that spoiled clueless people want a divorce either.
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Sal Gentile Jan 3, 2018
It is very sad indeed that more than 50% of marriages in the USA end in
divorce today, but it was not always that way. It also is not normal or
only natural. When I was a boy growing up in the 1950's in a well
populated city ___ in a middle class single and two-family home
neighborhood none of my friends parents were divorced.
While today the divorce rate in the USA is the highest on the planet.
Yet it is not surprising when we have a population of today of extremely arrogant men and women who mostly have a terrible "I want attitude" and
never ask their spouse 'what do you want' or ask "what can I do to make
life better for you?"
A 'team' of two who can work 'together' can accomplish twice as much as
anyone living alone.
Marriage is like everything else in the Game of Life ___ the more
efforts you put into it __ the more you get out of it and the more good
things we can accomplish.
PS: Under the new tax law changes ____ anyone who becomes divorced after 12/31/18 can no longer deduct alimony payments they make for their
income. If you are earning $150,000 per year and the courts decide your
spouse should get $70,000 per year ___ you will no longer be able to
deduct that $70,000 from your income and just pay income tax on the
$80,000 income you have left. Instead under the new tax laws you still
pay income tax on your entire $150,000 income even though you give
$70,000 of it to your spouse each year.
My advice is ____It's cheaper to keepher. Buy flowers and beg for
forgiveness.
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james doner 11 days ago
@Sal Gentile cheaper to not get married.
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Lodestar Research 3 days ago
@Sal Gentile Interesting points but misleading. 42 percent,
approximately, of US marriages end in divorce, but many of those are
serial "marriers." The number of Americans who divorce is quite a bit
lower. And if you compared *de facto* divorces in the 1950s -- opposite-end-of-the-house marriages, separations, annulments,
abandonments -- the percentages are much closer than you would think.
Also, "the divorce rate in the USA is the highest on the planet" is not
true. Many countries have higher divorce rates, especially former
Soviet republics.
Lastly, if there were some more objective, less emotional way of looking
at marriage in America, I believe we'd agree with an ex-girl-friend who
said, simply, marriage is a bad deal for a man. If you take issue with
that, consider how these type of columns are written overwhelmingly by
women, or consider how much marriage fits -- however stereotypically --
with many women's strong desire for security -- in other words, with
their instinctive desire -- and how poorly it fits with many men's
instinctive desires. I'd call it more a contract for society's
stability, rather than a quid pro quo, and it's why marriage is the most romantic thing a man ever does.
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James Faulkner 2 days ago
@Lodestar Research @Sal Gentile Thanks for your comments, Lodestar.
But, if you read Sal's comments over time, you will realize he hasn't a
clue about ANYTHING he posts about.
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Naoko Yamano Jan 2, 2018
70% of American divorces are initiated by the wife.
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james doner 11 days ago
@Naoko Yamano more like her 99.99%
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Ronald Stasch 2 days ago
@Naoko Yamano : Thank God someone has some sense.
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michael elliott Jan 2, 2018
Great article!!
The comments section reveals a lot about our collective experiments in cohabitation.
BTW...the friends that you collect when in a functional relationship
tend to be doing what you and your spouse are doing
.So....Your friends are mostly in a long term relationship....All of a
sudden, they are married and you are not!
When you separate, It is "uncomfortable" to socialize with them, to say
the least.
Sorry sport, You have been socially ostracized, and you need a new set
of friends.
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Hank Brvening 4 days ago
@michael elliott Former wives, former lives.
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Elmer Ritwinger Jan 2, 2018
"I wish I’d explored the job market before I separated..."
Sounds like she was a real warm and loving wife. I think this person may
have missed the meaning of marriage in the first place.
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Jeffery Lebowski Jan 2, 2018
@Elmer Ritwinger - Right? "Oh my......my milk cow is gone. Now I
actually have to work?" What a POS.
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Ted Karlson Jan 1, 2018
Liberal inspired divorce culture is pure evil. The lawyers love it though.
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casey trocewicz Jan 2, 2018
@Ted Karlson these liberals are just to liberals, just like trump.
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dwayne hardin Jan 2, 2018
@Ted Karlson red states have higher divorce rates than blue states.
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Tim Winzell Jan 2, 2018
@dwayne hardin @Ted Karlson How do the marriage rates between the two?
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James Faulkner 2 days ago
@dwayne hardin @Ted Karlson That's because people in Blue States tend
to get married less in the first place.
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Lodestar Research 3 days ago
@Ted Karlson People like Ted, who politicize everything, are generally
quite weak in the objective-thought category.
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james doner Jan 1, 2018
Men should stop marrying and just shack up. It has all the benefits and
no divorce ape by briniging the govt into the bedroom
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JEAN SMITH Jan 1, 2018
It all depends,women who have a career end up doing more,when she come
home,she is still responsible for chores at home,the grocery shopping,meals,laundry etc.
men are raised by their mom,if they can get away not doing
housechores,they will.
A career woman who makes enough to support herself will end up having
more freedom on her hands,while a housewife who has been out of work too
long will find it hard to join the workforce and make a decent living.
I have seen it,being a real estate broker aint that easy,travel
agent,now we have internet,maids,thats degrading,baby sitting pay peanuts.
it takes some planning.
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ROBERT RITES Jan 3, 2018
@JEAN SMITH SORRY jean, as I do the majority of the work and have for
years, but I keep a good marriage as many of my friends. You never
know, 1/2 the time the guy is the last to know now days.
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Dee Dorsoduro Jan 1, 2018
Yes, you should have known that when a woman marries its not AT ALL for
the reasons that he thinks and the man is also not marrying for the
reasons that she thinks. A woman is SOLELY interested in fulfilling her
own wants and needs, she looks at the man solely as the vehicle and tool
that gets her to her wants and needs.
If her needs are not met, she will jump ship and move on to next
vehicle. If she can ( if she has the looks and youth )
You see it was never about love or loyalty to any one particular man,
but always about fulfilling to her own wants and needs.
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Jeffery Lebowski Jan 2, 2018
@Dee Dorsoduro - well....in all fairness, it's the same story with men.
Just a VERY different set of wants and needs.
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Darrell Williamson Jan 2, 2018
@Dee Dorsoduro Dee you nailed it completely. True selfless love and
loyalty from most women is as scarce as hen's teeth ! Women are loyal
to what gets them security and pretty things they desire. If the man
can't provide that they are moving on to the next guy that can! This
has been true since the cave man ruled the planet. The best provider
got to breed the women until a better provider came along.
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ROBERT RITES Jan 3, 2018
@Dee Dorsoduro MASLOW charts in the basics. THATS why its real work for
many as society offered you choices daily. YES you should know what both
want as I have ran in to all types in my early exploratory years. Many I
ran from and many I wish I could have met their desires for being some
one or going some where they may or may not like. ITS funny as most my
friends and church tried to talk me out of and away from a good
marriage. I think its more than needs but needs are a huge part.
Friendship, love , character and selflessness all play a part and have
varied in my relationship with us. MY top of the chart look a little
different in what our goes are. WE may make it to our own special tops
with or with out greed and some with our family in tacked.
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sharon cumpstone 11 days ago
@Dee Dorsoduro Wow very cynical and definitely not truthful for many women.
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Kent Webb Jan 1, 2018
"James was shocked that her uncontested, relatively conflict-free
collaborative divorce still cost nearly $35,000."--WTH? I went through
an uncontested, conflict-free divorce, and it only cost me about $1500
in attorney fees.
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Awan Afuqya Jan 1, 2018
@Kent Webb Yep, in Vegas mine was $750!
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Nunyadamn Bidness Jan 1, 2018
@Kent Webb My uncontested divorce only cost me two $0.57 bullets, the
price of a shovel and a roll of heavy duty plastic bags.
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alex solomon Jan 1, 2018
I already have the shovel, so no cost there, but on which website you
found the @0.57 bullets ? Amazon Prime doesn’t list them...
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Spaceman Spiff Jan 1, 2018
@Nunyadamn Bidness @Kent Webb You must be a bad shot.
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ROBERT RITES Jan 3, 2018
@Spaceman Spiff @Nunyadamn Bidness @Kent Webb shooting his $%^&oo7 is
what brought him to the edge,
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Dana Follow Jan 2, 2018
@Nunyadamn Bidness @Kent Webb I just bought 1000 9mm for $170. That's 17 cents!!
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George Courtney 10 days ago
@Nunyadamn Bidness @Kent Webb You can buy bullets for 57 cents?
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Peter Koller 19 hours ago
@Nunyadamn Bidness @Kent Webb LOL
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Spencer Hill 2 days ago
@Kent Webb Did the same it was even less. Told my ex-spouse we can spend
moneys on attorney's or spend it on our kids ...the choice is yours
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JEFF WILLIAMS Dec 31, 2017
As a divorced child I can tell you in painful detail that it has a long
and lasting effect on children. I truly understand that there are times
when divorce is the only option. In cases of abuse, criminal activity
or when a spouse is an alcoholic or drug abuser. In many cases you
must take a child away from one parent in order to protect them.
However "we just can't get along" is not a reason or excuse. Live up to
the oaths you took. Marriage is a job and it's a very hard job at
times. In my case in middle school/high school I cannot remember how
many times I held a gun to my head or a knife to my throat. Sometimes I
was so drunk I could hardly breath. (Literally) I'm not looking for
anyone's pity or concern or anything here other than for folks to have a
care. Your child cannot walk out and live on their own. They are stuck
in the situation. They are also stuck with the step parents that
usually come along. It is seldom that a step parent loves a child as
much as a real parent. For my part I have tried to be what my parents
were not and even though I still smoke I don't drink anymore. Divorce
can destroy a child and regardless if you think it or not it will have a negative effect. Regardless of what experts say it will have a negative effect. I know because I lived through it. Think it through carefully
because your children have no good choices in such situations.
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Garry Rooks Jan 1, 2018
@JEFF WILLIAMS As usual, children either benefit or suffer the choices
of their parents. This is everyday stuff, with parents on drugs,
alcohol, in prison, unemployed, sick, disabled, or even wealthy living
the good life. Children don't make the decisions yet they are impacted,
and parents should think long and hard about the decisions they make.
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Awan Afuqya Jan 1, 2018
@JEFF WILLIAMS Thanks for sharing. I'm glad to hear you're doing better
and being a great dad!
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Chef Dan George Jan 1, 2018
@JEFF WILLIAMS My adult kids are suffering from being related to their
mother, my ex wife. My kids love their stepmother. Sorry that your
parents, and stepparents are jerks, and that you are not strong enough
to overcome the adversity they have thrown at you.
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Tim Winzell Jan 2, 2018
@Chef Dan George @JEFF WILLIAMS Sounds like he's adjusted pretty well.
Why do you feel the need to be insulting and petty? Is it due to your
own feelings of inadequacy? You're not the only one who made a poor
choice in marriage partners.
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Lodestar Research 3 days ago
Agree with Tim Winzell, you're being very small and shallow. You have
no idea what someone else has gone through. There's a balance that much
of America seems to have lost. You don't have to wring your hands and
weep for every inequity, but nor do you have to be supercilious about
someone else's pain. "Strong enough," per se, usually has extremely
little to do with it. True strength would have been to just listen to
what the man had to say and recognize the value of his experience ...
period.
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scott f Dec 31, 2017
Divorce is taking half of everything you own and lighting a match to it.
That's only if you don't have children, if you do it's even worse.
It may be necessary sometimes, but it is not to be taken lightly. Do everything you can to work it out before you take that awful step.
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ROBERT RITES Jan 3, 2018
@scott f BEEN there and done it. I stayed the course , then you just
live with questions about doing the right thing. Later in life you dont question yourself so much . The kids kept us together in many ways.
The grand kids are great healers. now i think it was the way it was
supposed to be right or wrong.
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STEVEN SCOTT Dec 31, 2017
I never understood why anyone would get married.
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Larry Riley Jan 1, 2018
@STEVEN SCOTT For me a second marriage was simple. It allowed my girlfriend/wife to retire at 60 rather than work for the rest of her life.
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ROBERT RITES Jan 3, 2018
@STEVEN SCOTT many should not. MOST fool them selves as they go through
the different stages of life. Some people cant keep a business
partnership going or a simple contract. OTHER have never been loyal even
to them selves. THE maturity level and demands are very great for some
. OTHERS are just to dependent to do other wise. THE different
emotions, feeling, and situations along the way are important. The
journey. Some like to share and enjoy with trusting others and some
would rather forget and race to self gratification and win the gold.
FIND who you are and decide.
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Pendrick Blufen Dec 31, 2017
Never understood people who remarry after a divorce. You obviously gave marriage a shot and it didn't work out. Move on and live free. Most
people who remarry go above and beyond what's required trying to correct
what they should have done in the first place.
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Chef Dan George Jan 1, 2018
@Pendrick Blufen It's kind of nice to have sex without
protection.....and have coffee made in the morning after...
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Roy Hopke Dec 31, 2017
Still enjoying my second marriage after 40 + years and trying to work it
out. It was a trial marriage only!!!!!! Hahahahahaha
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Utelme Utelme Dec 10, 2017
LOL!, Seriously Folks grow up and stop whining about your pathetic
marital and loneliness stories.
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Mary Jane Coleman Jan 1, 2018
@Utelme Utelme People have a right to their feelings, and talking about
them is not a sign that they need "to grow up." If you can't deal with
that, no one is forcing you to read these stories.
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Wei Ledoux Dec 10, 2017
I was born again after divorce. Life couldn't be better. Without the
shadow, I have much more confidence. I get to learn a lot more things. I
can fix toilet. I can troubleshoot furnace. I learned to use snow
blower. Google and Youtube are my helpers without strings attached. I
take very good care of my finance. He said that I can't. Haha. My career
is still climbing (He thought it would end years ago.). Life is
meaningful again. I am so happy. I laugh a lot more. I take more
vacations. It's just great. I become a better me. I met a better half.
Do not fear. Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
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Laci B Dec 10, 2017
Good for you . Sounds like you were in a big trap and degraded to make
thought that you can't do nothing
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thomas hunt Dec 31, 2017
@Wei Ledoux Don't marry an insecure individual. Somebody who has no
self consciousness and self respect. They have to bring down their
partner to booster their self ego. They are a control freak.
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William Gates Dec 10, 2017
Divorce is for fools who have no self-esteem, cannot plan, cannot
communicate or possess no self-control. Unfortunately, many people go
brain dead after inducing drugs and alcohol. Marijuana is a drug!
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Rick Jarvis Dec 31, 2017
What in the world are you talking about?
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Dana Follow Jan 2, 2018
@Rick Jarvis
Talking from experience I guess!!
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Bob Sherunkel Dec 31, 2017
@William Gates Both partners don't have to act like losers to cause a
divorce. Individuals can only control their own behavior.
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ROBERT RITES Jan 3, 2018
@William Gates For you marriage is cut dry and about character , honor
and self discipline with most likely a bible to guide you. . YOU must be
OK as your wife must feel the same as you had to have married your
sister. ( joke) but you get the point. I had a relationship like that
at one time. IT might have worked out fine, but I wanted a deeper
relationship as we did not put all the pieces together. I married some
one that is different than myself in different ways as she opened many
avenues I would not have seen. Now we are totally different people as i
am more spontaneous as she is more serious now. Glad your still
standing from lifes punches. I would guess we both had our chances to
end the marriages. ITS amazing how some just survive and go through hell
and keep climbing. Whats more amazing is some it comes natural and other
it is a hell. I was a lot like you for many years.
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James Faulkner 2 days ago
@William Gates Gates, you are really trolling.
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Richard Harding Dec 8, 2017
I did not get a divorce but my wife passed about 5 years ago. Divorcé
and death are pretty much the same as I found out and here is what I
learned from the experience. You will lose all your mutual friends, the
only friends you will keep are friends that really did not know your
wife very well. The friends you do keep will try to set you up with some
single friends that his wife knows. Don't do it, these women will have
too much baggage, these women will either be divorced or widowed. Only
date young women for the reason I just stated, young women like a lot
more sex and have a better outlook on life. Don't worry about your
girlfriend getting all of your stuff when you die, just don't marry her
but do leave her something for putting up with your sorry as*. Date as
many young pretty women as you can and have fun, you will not live
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