• Words of wisdom

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    On 26 Jan 2020, "edell@post.com" <edell@post.com> posted some news:24e2f8ab-56ab-4351-8492-17cec95f0808@googlegroups.com:

    On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 10:52:33 PM UTC-5, David Hartung wrote:
    On 1/26/20 9:20 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 1/26/2020 5:05 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 1/26/20 10:33 AM, milt.shook@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 8:54:28 AM UTC-7, Steve ignores 
    most
    fools and losers wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 07:50:58 -0800 (PST), milt.shook@gmail.com
    wrote
    :

    On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 6:57:31 AM UTC-7, NoBody
    wrote:
    On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 04:30:06 -0500, Steve ignores  most fools
    and
    losers <Steve@somewhere.else> wrote:

    On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 19:27:15 -0800 (PST),
    milt.shook@gmail.com wrote:

    On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 3:29:21 PM UTC-7, Steve
    ignores

    most fools and losers wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 11:08:57 -0800 (PST),
    milt.shook@gmail.com

    wrote:

    On Friday, January 24, 2020 at 10:11:12 AM UTC-7, Steve
    ignores most fools and losers wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 07:26:10 -0800 (PST),
    milt.shook@gmail.com wrote:

    On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 9:46:06 PM UTC-7, David
    Hartung wrote:
    On 1/23/20 10:05 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 1/23/2020 4:00 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 1/23/20 5:56 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
    On 1/23/2020 2:09 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 1/23/20 2:49 PM, milt.shook@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 7:27:43 AM UTC-7,
    David Hartung
    wrote:
      From a social media friend whi was a year ahea
    d of
    me at the
    seminary.

    [...]
    IMPEACHMENT SHAM - Actually, we all know the
    pertinent details. As
    Nadler said, the facts of "what took place" are
    agreed on by both
    sides.
    The issue is that these facts are not criminal
    nor out of the
    ordinary
    and stretch what should be impeachable beyond
    what the founding
    fathers
    established. The Democrats have endeavored to gut
    the

    Constitution by
    tearing down the separation of powers. When they
    cant

    do their
    job, they
    push for activist judges that legislate from the
    bench. When they
    disagree with policies they try to rob the
    Executive

    Branch of its
    legitimate authority by assuming they (the Dems)
    can

    read minds, then
    create a spy novel drawing lines to this person
    and

    that, and stretch
    the usage of impeachment to include things every
    president does,
    and to
    try to sway public opinion against voting for the
    sitting
    president in
    an upcoming election.
    [...]

    Fact.

    No it isn't.

    Before Trump, no president has ever asked a
    foreign leader for
    personal political assistance, which is patently
    illeg
    al.

    There has still been no US President ask a foreign
    leader for
    political assistance.

    That's a lie and you know it.

    So you assert, but you have never produced actual
    evidenc
    e

    LOL!  Here we go with "actual" evidence again. 
    So,
    there's evidence -
    the mutually corroborating testimony of some dozen
    foreign

    service and
    NSC personnel that they were all "in the loop" as to
    what

    Trump was
    attempting to do - and then there's some mythical
    "actual"

    evidence that
    would go beyond that.

    There is compelling, unequivocal evidence that Trump
    was

    pressuring
    Ukraine to fabricate dirt on Biden for Trump to use as
    a

    weapon in the
    election. That compelling evidence is now seen as
    proof.

    Unequivocal? All this evidence shows is that Trump made
    the

    phone call,
    and that a short hold was placed on the funds. There is
    nothing which
    supports a claim that it was for Trump's personal gain.
    You

    have nothing.

    Sorry, but six months is not a "short hold" when your
    country is at war with Russia. And I suppose it was just
    coincidence that Donny released the funds 90 minutes
    after

    he got caught.


    How long did Obama hold up giving military aid?  Oh wait
    .....

    How long did Obama holdup military aid without discussing
    it

    or clearing it with Congress?

    Never. And we know this because  doing so is illegal and

    Republicans would never let him get away with it.


    Gotcha again...   <CHICKLE>   Actually, Dum
    my, Obama never sent
    any
    military aid to the Ukraine..  even while Russia was attac
    king
    them.

    As usual, you're full of shit. You once again prove you will
    always believe everything trump says, despite the fact that
    he's

    lied 16,241 times so far.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/donald-trump-barack-
    o
    bam
    a-ukraine-military-aid-sheets-pillows-fact-check/index.html


    Facts First: Trump is being hyperbolic here. While the Obama
    administration was criticized for its refusal to provide
    lethal

    assistance to Ukraine, it did provide more than $100 million
    in

    security assistance, as well as a significant amount of
    defense

    and military equipment.

    By March 2015, the US had committed more than $120 million
    in security assistance for Ukraine and had pledged an
    additional $75 million worth of equipment including UAVs,
    counter-mortar radars, night vision devices and medical
    supplies, according to

    the Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency.
    That assistance also included some 230 armored Humvee
    vehicles.

    The leader of your cult is a fucking habitual liar. and most
    of

    your favorite news sources do almost as much lying. You'd do
    well to research facts before you pretend to know what the
    fuck

    you're talking about.


    <LOL>   Sheets and pillows are not military aid. Armore
    d humvees
    aren't military aid. Trump sent rockets.

    Note that Miltie cites CNN, which supports what I mentioned
    earlie
    r
    about his warped mind.

    I sometimes cite CNN. Earlier today, I cited Newsmax because I
    checked the facts in the story. I'mn only interested in factual
    news, which is much different from you and the other wingnuts.


    Is that why you stupidly claimed that Trump only claimed that
    the favor Trump asked for for him and not the country?

    Stupidly? Trump has never done a fucking thing for anyone but
    himself. Ever. He wasn't asking for anything to benefit the
    country.

    Announcing the investigation of Biden would in no way benefit the
    country. At all. It's all for him.

    The fact that you don't like Trump, is not proof that he is guilty

    The proof that he is guilty is part of the public record.

    If what has been released to the public is the entirety of the public
    record there is no proof.

    Since fat Tubby has refused to release all documents and allow all
    relevant witnesses within his administration to testify, then there is
    no proof that he is innocent

    No proof he is guilty either!

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