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Anne was twice my age, and bisexual.
I was only 17 when she picked me up in a record store. Our eyes met
from across the room, and she smiled at me; I couldn't help but smile
back. Anne was not a great beauty, or wouldn�t be considered so by
most. But she had an honest open face, and a bright smile. She had a
strong jaw, bright eyes, and a lovely complexion. She came and stood
next to me, and asked me something about the CD I was holding in my
hand. She was about an inch taller than I, even in flat shoes. There
was something slightly intimidating about that that I found strangely
erotic.
We talked and flirted for quite some time, and I could feel a wonderful confidence and strength in her. She was standing so close to me, I
could feel the heat from her body, she wore no perfume but I could smell
her natural odor, and I liked it. and then she asked me if I would like
to come home with her.
Like I said, she wasn't a great beauty; yet she had a certain
attraction. I liked her already, and what 17-year-old male with say
�no� to an attractive woman who asked him to come home with her?
She made me lunch, and we talked for an hour or two before she took my
chin in her hand, and kissed me calmly on the lips.
She was well built, that's how I would put it. Her breasts were large
but not huge; her ass was shapely but slightly generous. Her hips were curvaceous and feminine, but there was plenty to hold onto. Her hair
was jet black and short like a man's. Her eyes were clear and bright,
her conversation intelligent and confident. I loved her teeth, so even
and white; she had a beautiful mouth. Anne's back and shoulders were
wide and strong, stronger than mine. Again, intimidating and erotic.
I�d had little sexual experience; I found my first lovemaking with Anne
to be an extremely pleasant experience. We had all afternoon, there was
no hurry; I wasn't afraid of making her pregnant, or her parents coming
home, or anything else that had tainted my experiences with girls my own
age. It was incredibly stress free for me.
She toyed with my cock as I caressed her breasts, she held me as I
suckled them.
She bit me, I massaged her; I enjoyed licking her clit before we went
all the way.
So warm, wet, tight and wonderful; so healthy and strong was my Ann. Her
hips rose to meet my every stoke; I had never felt so alive, so
appreciated. Her hands held my happy face between her ample breasts as
my young penis strove to satisfy our yearnings.
When she came the first time I followed her; it was such an incredible satisfaction to make her come, and to feel my fluid pumping into her;
the most satisfying thing that had ever happened to me by far. It was
pure exhilaration, utterly glorious.
She was so impressed how my dick stayed hard after my orgasm. I wanted
to fuck her forever; it was so wonderful how she appreciated my youth.
To the girls I had been with, I was a skinny spotty kid. To Anne I was something special. �Magnificent Martin� she called me.
There was something about her that just made me feel so good; I felt
warm, comfortable, and safe in her arms. She was the mother I never
had, the woman I had never knew I needed.
I couldn't come again, but I could keep going, and I did until she had
had enough.
We lay in her bed naked, touching each other gently for a time before
she rose to cook for me.
For several months, I used to see Anne twice a week. We never went out
or anything, we'd have dinner and then sex; watch some TV, and then I
would spend the night, usually making love to her again in the morning
before she had to go to work and I had to go to school.
She had another lover; she made no pretense about it, she told me openly
almost from the beginning.
She didn't tell me it was a woman for a while.
Of course I was jealous, especially before I found out it was a woman.
But it wasn't like I was expecting to settle down and have a family with
Anne or something. I really liked her, and we had great sex, but she
was 35 years old and I was 17; the issue was ever present. Of course I
loved her, I couldn�t help it. She was my lover, my sister, my mother,
she was everything for me. But I knew I wouldn�t be able to keep her
forever, that was the underlying tragedy of it all.
I met Sadie after I�d been seeing Anne for a month or two. She was just leaving as I arrived; we stood and stared at each other for an awkward
moment.
She was very beautiful, perhaps 10 years younger than Anne, and black.
Her skin was very dark, and her eyes shone brightly. She didn't look
very happy to see me; I had definite impression that she disapproved of
me, her lover�s other lover. She left quickly, without talking to me.
It was about a month after that that Anne asked me to have dinner with
her and Sadie. I agreed, with some trepidation.
It didn't go too badly; Sadie attempted to be civil, and I did my best
as well. It wasn't very difficult for me, she was so beautiful. I just
can't help but like someone who�s so good looking.
As the evening became late, a decision had to be made; who would be the
one to stay. I scored some points by graciously saying goodnight.
Anne had a fantasy; all of us together, a m�nage a trois. I was willing
to give it a try, although I was a little bit nervous about Sadie. I
didn't think she liked me very much. Anyway, Sadie refused to go along
with it. She said it was perverse. She said it was bad enough that
Anne was seeing me twice a week. Anne told me that was one of the
reasons we always had to use condoms; she�d promised Sadie that she
wouldn't let me �pollute� her down there. I guess she never told Sadie that she let me come in her mouth sometimes.
Anne loved my hair. It�s long and blond, and she loved to brush it and
style it for me.
Then she asked me if she could shave my pubic hair; I was a bit freaked
out by that, but she seemed to be so excited about the idea, and I had
to compete with Sadie for her I felt; so I agreed.
I sat on the edge of the bathtub as she carefully removed all the hair, fondling my stiff dick while she did so. She shaved my legs, too.
She asked me then if I�d like to try on the pair of her stockings. I
thought she was joking, and I had a good laugh. She giggled and gave me
head.
When she asked me the second time, I knew it was something she really
wanted. I figured nobody would never know, so I said okay.
I was surprised at how sexy it was. Anne just loved it, she stroked my
legs and licked my dick, and she was so turned on that I made her come
three times in 15 minutes.
Naturally, there was escalation. The next time I was there, she put a
dress on me. Then she put me in a pair of high heeled shoes [we wear
the same size].
It was so weird; it turned her on like hell. But what was weirder was
that it turned me on too.
I'd put on the women's clothes, and Anne would make up my face. Then we
would spend the evening like that, I'd walk up and down the room for her
and we'd cuddle on the couch. I started cooking for her, and she loved
to sit in the kitchen watching me. I�d always be dressed and made up as
a woman; sometimes in just a simple dress, sometimes in a �French maid� thing Anne got for me, or some other sexy outfit that we�d cobble
together from Anne�s things.
Our rolls would switch back once we were between the sheets; Anne just
loved to lie back on the cushions while I screwed her hard. But I did
keep on the stockings and the stuffed bra.
Some time passed before she invited Sadie over to share dinner with us.
My cock was like steel while I cooked for them, and they sat watching
me, making little comments.
�She does have a nice ass, Anne� Sadie said. �But can she cook?�
�Well, we can't have everything, darling.� Anne answered her, �But she washes up after herself, and she's great in bed.�
I served them; subtly, I took on the submissive role. I could see the excitement in the two of them as the three of us spontaneously took up
the new game.
�Bring us some salt sweetheart.� Anne told me. And after I had brought it, and was just about to sit down again, Sadie told me to go back and
get the pepper. No sooner had I done so and sat down, when Anne told me
to bring some water.
It was incredibly weird, but this turned me on like crazy. My dick was
like a rock in my underwear, and I wanted them to give me more orders, I
wanted to be their serving girl; Anne and Sadie did not disappoint me.
After the meal, I cleared the table and washed the dishes, and when I
came back out into the living room Anne and Sadie were sitting on the
couch, holding each other and kissing. I knew they were lovers, but I
had never seen them do anything together. I sat down quietly to watch,
keeping my knees together and my back straight as Anne had told me I
should while I was being a girl.
�Sadie,� Anne said, looking at me and stroking her girlfriend�s
handsome dark face with her fingertips, �would you like Martha to
pedicure and massage your feet? Oh, go on darling, it's wonderful.
Martha, go to my bedroom and fetch the clippers and things.�
�Martha�! My new name from that point onwards. I loved it.
Sadie had gorgeous feet, and I kneeled on the floor while I clipped her toenails, filed them, and massaged her arches while she and Anne
caressed each other and watched me.
�Let's go into the bedroom, girls.� Anne said.
Anne led Sadie by the hand, and I followed. Anne watched me as she
undressed her girlfriend before laying her down on the bed. Sadie�s body
was breathtaking; her color was perfectly even and dark, her hips
flawlessly girlish and slim. She had beautiful full breasts and a sweet
round ass.
�Martha, sit here and massage Sadie's back.�
Her skin was so dark, yet so soft. I stroked and massaged the woman, my
rival. I wondered if I was going to fuck her. The thought made my cock
pulse pleasantly.
Anne removed her own clothes, and lay down next to her girlfriend, and
they kissed gently, taking their time.
�Martha,� said Anna, �kiss Sadie's ass.�
Sadie had gorgeous ass; dark, smooth, and round. I joyfully did as
instructed.
�Roll over, sweetheart.� Anne then instructed Sadie. �Would you like Martha to lick you out?�
I looked at Sadie hopefully, and she looked back at me doubtfully. She
knew exactly what was happening, she knew Anne was seductively easing
her and I into sex of one kind or another.
�Go ahead, Martha.� Anne told me, �Get your sweet tongue down there, sweetheart. That's a good girl.�
It was wonderful and strange. I loved giving Anne oral sex, even while
we pretended I was a woman. But doing it like this, to a not-so-sure
Sadie, was something different.
Her juices were flowing, and I knew things were going well. Anne was alternately kissing her and whispering in her ear.
Between the two of us, we coaxed an orgasm from the lovely young Sadie;
then Anne instructed me to remove my skirt.
My stiff dick stuck out from between the stockings tops. Anne stroked
my young rod lovingly.
�Go on Sadie; touch it.� She said seductively, �Do it for me.� She took
one of Sadie's dark hands, and put it on my dick. I looked into the
dark woman's clear eyes as she tentatively fondled me. There was some communication there, unspoken but clear.
Sadie loved women, she wasn't attracted to men. But she didn't dislike
me, and she appreciated how far I'd gone to please her. She didn't mind pleasuring my penis.
It was my turn to be pleasured, and Anne started kissing me; I was
shocked when I felt the unmistakable feeling of a warm mouth over my
cock. I had to look, I had to see my pink dick inside Sadie's beautiful
dark face. She didn't do it for long, she was just experimenting,
testing herself.
Anne took a condom of the side drawer and slid it over me, while I
tenderly kissed Sadie�s beautiful dark face.
�Would you like Martha to fuck you, Sadie?� She whispered. �It's time
to try it, honey.�
Sadie looked at my made up feminine face, and then into my mascaraed
eyes. She couldn't bring herself to say it out loud, but she nodded
her agreement. She lay back against the cushions, and spread her dark
thighs, opening her virgin alley to the exploration of my safely
sheathed male organ.
It was a wonderful feeling, fucking my rival. I was the subservient one
of the three of us, but the one with his dick inside the other is
normally dominant. I wanted to pleasure her, I wanted to show her that
I liked her, that I found her attractive, and I wanted her to like me too.
She was very tense, and took a long time before she came; Anne was
stroking her, kissing her, and talking to her softly to help her relax
while I did my best to keep a steady pace. I was wearing my artificial
breasts under a blouse, and I was made up as a woman complete with
painted finger and toenails. But I felt like a man knowing I was the
first male to have the pleasure of this beautiful woman.
Sadie held me tightly as she came, but her eyes were locked with Anne's.
I came into the condom, and I went to remove it and wash myself before returning to the ecstasy of my first night between my two mistresses. I stroked and massaged them, I licked their vaginas and Anne let me screw her.
Anne and Sadie decided to move in together shortly after that, and they
got a new larger apartment big enough for them both, and for me as well.
I was having a hard time at home, constantly arguing with my foster
mother. It was a great relief to move out.
I was not in equal partner in the relationship; I was the kid, a guest
in their house. Anne and Sadie both had high-powered and well-paid
jobs. I kept the house and did the cooking, and spent more and more
time dressed up like a woman, even when I was alone.
There was something I was missing, something I was longing for. I
should have been happy already; I was being kept by two gorgeous women,
I'd won a scholarship that would pay my tuition when college started in
the fall. But I didn't feel right, I didn't feel comfortable in my own
body.
I wanted breasts; real breasts. The strap on mameries I usually wore
were making me frustrated.
I found a doctor who dealt with these issues. He told me I should live
as a woman for a few months, and if I still wanted it done, he would
start the process by giving me hormones. He measured my hands and feet,
took photographs, and some blood. He told me I was a good candidate.
He also said it would be good to start me on the hormones as soon as
possible if I wanted to be a woman, since my face and body hadn't yet completely matured.
Anne and Sadie started taking me out to clubs and bars to get me used to
the idea of being female in public.
It was incredibly frightening for me, but I felt confident that my women
would protect me.
Men kept coming on to me; I felt conflicted about that. I was thrilled
that I was so good looking as a woman that people were fooled, that men
would make passes at me at least as often as they would at Sadie or
Anne. But I wasn't attracted to men, I wanted to be a woman�s woman.
We went to a gay club a couple of times. I loved it in there, I didn't
feel like a freak compared to some of the people in the place.
I danced with Anne and Sadie, and then I saw that they were each dancing
with other women; a woman started dancing with me, a beautiful Oriental
lady. Her hair was thick and long, she was incredibly feminine compared
to most of the women in there. When the music stopped, she put her arms
around my hips and kissed me, fondling my ass.
�Are you here with anyone?� She asked me quietly. That's when I felt a stiff dick poking at my thighs.
The episode ended there, but it left me feeling odd. I was disgusted to
find she had been a he. But wasn't that's exactly what I had been
doing? And I can't deny that I had been very excited by her at the same
time.
I started taking the hormones on my eighteenth birthday, and I started
to feel the effects immediately. I was also amazed at how soon my
breasts started to grow. Within a couple of months I already had
something to show. Apparently it was because of my age, and because I
had already had very low testosterone levels. I felt so wonderful and
sexy, but it was almost impossible for me to get a hard on while I was
taking the hormones. I had to use Viagra.
Anne and Sadie were now a couple; I could see that they really were in
love with each other, and I can't say that I wasn't jealous of the joy
they were feeling. They both liked me a lot, but not in the same way.
Anne still liked having sex with me, and both of them appreciated having
me around to do the domestic work. I loved serving them; it gave me a
certain strange contentment to clean the bath and make the beds, to do
the vacuuming and cooking while my women were off at work, doing
important things and earning for us all.
They knew I liked it when they gave me orders, but they never abused
me in any way. Even Sadie would give me a hug and a cuddle from to
time, to show her appreciation.
I usually slept alone in the second bedroom, but sometimes they would
let me sleep with them. I was their pet.
Then Anne and Sadie started talking about having a baby.
They decided Sadie should be the mother, since she was younger. I told
them I was all for it; I thought I could just stop taking the hormones
for a month, and I would be fertile again; all we had to do was make
love a few times without condoms.
But Sadie told me that although she really liked me, I just wasn't who
she wanted to father her child.
Of course I was crushed, I felt rejected. Well, I had reason to feel
that way; I literally had been rejected. But I could see her point. I
was a skinny young man with gender issues who liked nothing better than dressing as a girl.
Anne said she would find the guy to knock Sadie up. Sadie was very
nervous about it all; not about having the baby, about having sex with a
real man. She suggested a sperm bank.
�No way, honey.� Was Anne's response, �I don't want our baby born out
of a jar. Besides, this way we get to choose the material.�
Anne brought home a guy or two for dinner that Sadie rejected, before
they settled on an Argentinean guy who was working at Anne's company for
the summer.
The three of them sat at the table, and I served. I loved showing off
my pert new breasts to the guy, Sergio.
Of course, he had no idea what it was all about. When Anne had invited
him home for dinner, he had thought it would just be the two of them.
Then he had gorgeous Sadie staring at him all evening as though she
wanted his baby, and me parading my barely concealed new breasts around
the place.
Anne took him into the bedroom while I was doing the washing up. When I
came out of the kitchen, Sadie was sitting at the table alone, looking extremely unsettled.
�I'm not sure Martha.� She told me, taking my hand, �What if right he isn't the right guy? I mean, how well does Anne know him? I really
don't know if I�m ready to let a guy do that to me. I mean, it's all so gross.�
�Relax, Sadie.� I said reassuringly, stroking her lovely dark neck with
my fingertips, �Everything will be fine, Anne checked him out very thoroughly. She pulled his medical records and his school records; the
guy is even good looking.�
�You know I don't like guys, Martha. Go in and see what they're doing.
Go on.�
I went into the bedroom.
I have to say that I wasn't completely happy about all of this. I
didn't like having a man in here, and I didn't like it that he was
fooling around with Anne. If he was supposed to make Sadie pregnant,
then he should just do it with Sadie. But the reality was that Sadie
could never bring herself to go through all the courting rituals.
Flirting, smiling, hand holding, dating, kissing; she was willing to
bear the child, and for that she was willing to endure heterosexual sex.
but she didn't want to have to go through all the preliminaries as well,
so Anne had agreed to do it for her.
Sergio was stripped from the waist up, and my mistress was running her
fingers through his chest hair. They were kissing, and Anne's shirt was
off but she was still wearing her bra. Giorgio's fingers were sliding
across her delicious flesh.
Anne looked up; �Martha darling, what's happened to Sadie?� She asked me.
�Nothing.� I answered, �She asked me to come in here.�
�Take over for me, Martha. I'd better go talk to her.�
Giorgio was looking completely confused as Anne jumped out of the bed
and strode toward the door.
�Go on!� She told me on her way past, giving me a shove.
I thought my heart would come out of my skinny chest as I sat down next
to the man.
�What's happening here, Martha?� He asked me.
I didn't know what to tell him. I didn't want to spill the beans, and
the others to get angry with me. In the short strained silence that
ensued, I felt the strong hand slide gently up my hip, around and behind
my shoulders, I felt that gentle but insistent pull as he drew me to
himself.
There was really nothing else I could do. Anne had told me to take
over, and she had been lying next to him and kissing him.
His hands and slid over my thinly clad ass, slid over my naked thighs.
His tongue invaded my mouth, and I felt him removing my blouse. I
didn't stop him as he fumbled with my bra. I wondered if he would
notice anything different about me as he fondled my little breasts and
drove me wild by kissing my new nipples.
But then his hand was headed up my thigh; I had a hard on under there,
one of the few natural ones I�ve attained while on the hormones. I
moved down so he wouldn't be able to reach my crotch; the only thing I
could think of to do was to start removing his trousers.
Soon he was completely naked, and still Anne and Sadie hadn't come back.
I started playing with his very stiff cock.
I was surprised to find it not unpleasant. His cock was considerably
larger than mine, and his balls were big and hairy. He was starting to
move around, he was going to want to start kissing me and fondling my
crotch again. There was nothing else I could do. I went down on him.
He groaned with pleasure, �Look at me, Martha.� He whispered, �I think you're the most beautiful of the three. Don't get me wrong, I really
like Anne, and Sadie's a fine woman, but you have the prettiest face.
You look so sweet, I can't believe you're sucking my dick, damn it feels good!�
I watched his face as I slowly sucked his cock as deep as I could
manage; I squeezed the base and stroked his balls, I tickled the inside
of his thighs. I felt his balls start to contract, and I took my mouth
from his prick and blew on it gently to cool it down and prevent him
from coming if I could.
Anne and Sadie didn't come back into the room for at least another 10
minutes, and I kept sucking Sergio's cock and cooling him down again.
As I got over the shock of finding myself doing this, I started to enjoy
it. After all, if I was a woman, then this was quite acceptable.
Giorgio just loved it, and Anne had told me to do it.
Giorgio was so manly, his cock so beautiful. As I slid my tongue and
lips across it, as I looked into his happy face, a feeling of
contentment washed over me that I had never achieved before. To be able
to administer such pleasure was a joy for me.
Anne and Sadie came in at last; Sadie was already naked, and Anne
steered her to the bed, with her confident arm around Sadie's slim dark chocolate waist. Sadie lifted a leg over Sergio's ready penis. I held
it for her as she lowered her shaved crotch slowly over it. It slid in
to her easily, and I guessed [correctly] that Anne had already been
licking her in the other room, preparing her.
It didn't take long. Poor Sergio was completely wound up by then, and
Sadie's tight cunt on his quivering cock, the sight of her dark exotic
body towering over him, not to mention Anne and I on each side of him,
kissing and caressing him, and my hand on his balls; we could all feel
the spasms running through his body as he thrust upwards involuntarily
with each wonderful contraction of his scrotum.
Sadie smiled a sweet smile at us all, and she left the room without
saying a word.
Now the thing was, of course, there was no way to know if she'd been successfully impregnated. We needed to keep Giorgio as a lover possibly
for as long as several months.
�Martha,� Anne told me, �suck Giorgio's dick again.� It was softening rapidly, and coated with his fluids. The last thing I wanted to do was
put it in my mouth, but I couldn't disobey Anne.
My first taste of come wasn't too bad. There wasn't much of it, after
all. I sucked his cock and licked his balls, and Anne kissed and
stroked him, until he got stiff again.
I felt hurt and jealous as I watched them screw. He was so big and
strong and manly, like I had never been and never would be. Anne was
obviously enjoying herself with him. Sadie might be a lesbian, but Anne
is bisexual; she can and does enjoy sex with men.
I went into the second bedroom and sat with Sadie. She was lying on her
back with her hips on a pillow and her legs up against the wall, having
heard somewhere that this position after sex increases the possibility
of pregnancy. We didn't speak, but I knew she was also unhappy about it
that Anne was letting a man do that to her. We cuddled together for
comfort, and tried to ignore the sounds of our queen enjoying herself
with Sergio.
We had Sergio over two or three times a week after that, until Sadie
tested positive for pregnancy. Anne made no bones about it, she enjoyed screwing him; but we all made sure his first load always went into Sadie.
I mostly just cooked and served, but I was sure to always be looking my
best when he was coming over. Sergio caught me in the kitchen for an
intimate moment once or twice, and it thrilled me when he held me in his
arms and kissed me deeply. It made me feel so wonderfully feminine,
like a real woman.
Anne would usually call me in to give him head for a while after Sadie
had finished with him. She liked to watch me do it to him, but she
didn�t want him to come in my mouth. She figured he wouldn�t have
anything left for her if I took him all the way.
Sergio wanted to go all the way with me, of course, and he kept begging
Anne to let him [It was obvious who called the shots in our house]. But
I always stayed dressed where it counts, and Sergio never knew I had the
wrong equipment.
But before he left us to return to Argentina, she let me.
I remember it like it was yesterday, the first time I brought a man to
orgasm. Sadie was sulking in the other room; She didn�t understand why
Sergio was still welcome in the big bed once his genetic material was no
longer required. Anne was naked, kissing and stroking him while I sucked
his dick and licked her alternately.
I loved doing it by then. It made me feel so wonderful and girlish, so dominated and womanly. I knew he found me attractive, and I loved to
tease him with my tongue, smile at him and keep eye contact while I did everything I could to pleasure him. I adored that big hard manly cock, I
wanted to hold it and suck it forever.
So when Anne told me to keep going, I did. I was scared, of course, but
I wanted his come.
I took it deeper than I�d ever managed before, the thrill of what was
going to happen driving me to greater efforts.
�Come, baby.� I heard Anne telling him, �Come in Martha�s mouth. You like her best, don�t you? It�s all right, sweetie, I�m not jealous. I won�t let her fuck you, though. She wants to, but I won�t let her. But
you can come in her mouth tonight. She wants you to.�
�Oh God!� he moaned, and clamped my head between his hands as his cock quivered with a huge release.
He stared into my eyes as he came and came. I couldn�t remember ever
felling so satisfied about anything I�d ever done. There was no room in
my mouth for all that gooey stuff as well as Sergio�s big cock. I knew
Anne wouldn�t like it if any were to get on the sheet, so I started swallowing. I ate it all, and it felt good. Cocksucker, come eater, yes; that�s me, and I�m cool with it.
The university administration agreed to enroll me using only the first
initial of my name. But they told me that unless I legally changed my
name and gender before I graduated, my degree would have to be printed
out as �Martin�. That gives me another couple of years to decide what
to do.
But there isn�t any doubt in my mind. As a woman, I'm gorgeous and desirable. I feel good, it's how I want to be eventually.
It's a big sacrifice, of course; and having my natural sex organ cut
into is a very frightening prospect. Anne isn't happy about me having
the operation, but she understands my need. Still, I won�t have it done
while I live with her and Sadie; I�m the girl with the cock. Even Sadie admitted that she likes my penis, and as long as I wear a condom she
enjoys it when I had penetrative sex with her. When she says I�m not a
guy, I�m a cute little girl with extras, I love her almost like I love Anne.
Sadie's had the baby now, the most beautiful little girl in the world.
She makes a lot of extra work for me, of course, but it's probably just
as well. This way, I have no time to meet men; how I long to tease them
and suck their cocks until they come in my mouth like Sergio did that
one time.
But as Anne loves to tell me, I still have most of my life ahead of me
to enjoy those things. For now I�m enjoying my free time taking care of
the baby; everyone says motherhood agrees with me.
Bigby, 2001
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