• Security under the law

    From David@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 26 18:14:22 2019
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.support.depression

    "Morten W. Petersen" wrote in message news:qf0tp8$1li0$1@gioia.aioe.org...

    Hi. This is a follow-up to the messages

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    Posted on alt.politics.europe.misc, alt.men.politics, alt.politics, alt.society.mental-health and talk.politics.misc in March, April and May
    2019 and alt.society.liberalism, alt.support.depression and
    soc.rights.human in April and May 2019.

    So, here's an added section to
    http://blogologue.com/c

    which was added on very early morning of 27th of June, 2019.

    So, a lot of interesting things have happened in the last year, but I'm
    going to limit it to 2 things on this posting, and one of those things
    is that the psychologist Morten Mitsem I've mentioned earlier, was
    hovering around me in the gym not long ago, and it seems that he now
    goes there regularly. I've given him and his colleagues quite a bit of critique, and it did seem like he was hovering, and I don't know if he
    was there alone, or with someone else.

    Anyway, I guess he has as much right as me to be there, and he looks
    like he could use the exercise.

    On the more tangible side, I sent an email to the kids mom on the 12th
    of May (English version [see below], original Norwegian version [see
    below]), asking her to give a full account of what she has done in
    relation to me, since she got to know me. She did not respond to that
    email, and her contact person, Vebjørn Svidal, has not responded to that request, but he did ask for a meeting on short notice, on the 21st of
    June, the day before I was to see the kids, but I declined, because it
    was on such a short notice.

    On the 25th of June, at 15:34, I sent a new mail regarding the request
    for a full account from the kids mom to Vebjørn Svidal, but I haven't
    seen a response there either.

    So there has been some communication back and forth for over a month,
    but nothing has been said from the other party about giving this full
    account. I think this shows that the kids mom, for some reason, does not
    want to give a full, written account of what has happened, she refuses
    to do so, and has done so for a long time.

    This text is licensed under the CC Attribution, No derivatives license.

    English translation of email:

    From: Morten W. Petersen <morphex@gmail.com>
    Date: Sun. 12th May 2019, 07.51
    Subject: Full account from you, since you knew of me
    To: hilde olsen <hilol79@hotmail.com>
    Cc: Vebjørn Svidal <vebjornsvidal@gmail.com>, Sveinung Hestad Strand <strand@lovehjerte.no>, <rana.tingrett@domstol.no>,
    <postmottak@domstol.no>, Bakke, Kirsti <Kirsti.Bakke@rana.kommune.no>,
    Rana kommune <Servicetorget@rana.kommune.no>, <webred@adresseavisen.no>


    Hi Hilde.

    I guess I've asked for this earlier, I want a full written account from
    you on what you have done in relation to me, since you got to know me.

    It is the case that you and I have been in a conflict for 6 years about
    the kids, and the problems got really serious for me, in the
    relationship with you, 10 years ago, in 2009, when I became psychotic.

    It is about the placement of responsibility, what is my fault, what is
    your fault, what the healthcare system's fault, what is the police's
    fault, what is the child protection services' fault, what are the court appointed mental health professionals' fault etc.

    It may very well be, that I get reimbursed for the court costs in the
    court case in the summer 2015 for example [regarding the kids] - so that
    I don't have to use 12.000 kroner of a gross income of 200.000 kroner
    [NOK] a yearpaying interest [on your court costs, to you], and you can
    get what I owe you.

    -Morten

    Original Norwegian version:

    Fra: Morten W. Petersen <morphex@gmail.com>
    Date: søn. 12. mai 2019, 07.51
    Subject: Full forklaring fra deg, siden du ble kjent med meg
    To: hilde olsen <hilol79@hotmail.com>
    Cc: Vebjørn Svidal <vebjornsvidal@gmail.com>, Sveinung Hestad Strand <strand@lovehjerte.no>, <rana.tingrett@domstol.no>,
    <postmottak@domstol.no>, Bakke, Kirsti <Kirsti.Bakke@rana.kommune.no>,
    Rana kommune <Servicetorget@rana.kommune.no>, <webred@adresseavisen.no>


    Hei Hilde.

    Jeg har vel bedt om dette tidligere, jeg ønsker en skriftlig forklaring
    på hva du har foretatt deg i forhold til meg, siden du ble kjent med meg.

    Det er jo slik at du og jeg har vært i en konflikt i 6 år om ungene, og problemene startet for alvor for meg, i relasjonen med deg, for 10 år
    siden, i 2009, når jeg ble psykotisk.

    Det handler om plassering av ansvar, hva som er min feil, hva som er din
    feil, hva som er helsevesenet sin feil, hva som er politiet sin feil,
    hva som er barnevernet sin feil, hva som er sakkyndige sin feil, osv.

    Det kan godt være at jeg får erstatning for sakskostnader
    barnefordelingssak sommeren 2015 f.eks. - slik at jeg slipper å bruke
    12.000 kroner av en brutto inntekt på ca 200.000 på å betale renter til
    deg, og du kan få det du har utestående.

    -Morten

    http://psinet.shorturl.com, I get nervous at times. I'm ok.

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  • From Morten W. Petersen@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 27 01:06:18 2019
    XPost: alt.society.liberalism, alt.support.depression

    Hi. This is a follow-up to the messages

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    Posted on alt.politics.europe.misc, alt.men.politics, alt.politics, alt.society.mental-health and talk.politics.misc in March, April and May
    2019 and alt.society.liberalism, alt.support.depression and
    soc.rights.human in April and May 2019.

    So, here's an added section to
    http://blogologue.com/c

    which was added on very early morning of 27th of June, 2019.

    So, a lot of interesting things have happened in the last year, but I'm
    going to limit it to 2 things on this posting, and one of those things
    is that the psychologist Morten Mitsem I've mentioned earlier, was
    hovering around me in the gym not long ago, and it seems that he now
    goes there regularly. I've given him and his colleagues quite a bit of critique, and it did seem like he was hovering, and I don't know if he
    was there alone, or with someone else.

    Anyway, I guess he has as much right as me to be there, and he looks
    like he could use the exercise.

    On the more tangible side, I sent an email to the kids mom on the 12th
    of May (English version [see below], original Norwegian version [see
    below]), asking her to give a full account of what she has done in
    relation to me, since she got to know me. She did not respond to that
    email, and her contact person, Vebjørn Svidal, has not responded to that request, but he did ask for a meeting on short notice, on the 21st of
    June, the day before I was to see the kids, but I declined, because it
    was on such a short notice.

    On the 25th of June, at 15:34, I sent a new mail regarding the request
    for a full account from the kids mom to Vebjørn Svidal, but I haven't
    seen a response there either.

    So there has been some communication back and forth for over a month,
    but nothing has been said from the other party about giving this full
    account. I think this shows that the kids mom, for some reason, does not
    want to give a full, written account of what has happened, she refuses
    to do so, and has done so for a long time.

    This text is licensed under the CC Attribution, No derivatives license.

    English translation of email:

    From: Morten W. Petersen <morphex@gmail.com>
    Date: Sun. 12th May 2019, 07.51
    Subject: Full account from you, since you knew of me
    To: hilde olsen <hilol79@hotmail.com>
    Cc: Vebjørn Svidal <vebjornsvidal@gmail.com>, Sveinung Hestad Strand <strand@lovehjerte.no>, <rana.tingrett@domstol.no>,
    <postmottak@domstol.no>, Bakke, Kirsti <Kirsti.Bakke@rana.kommune.no>,
    Rana kommune <Servicetorget@rana.kommune.no>, <webred@adresseavisen.no>


    Hi Hilde.

    I guess I've asked for this earlier, I want a full written account from
    you on what you have done in relation to me, since you got to know me.

    It is the case that you and I have been in a conflict for 6 years about
    the kids, and the problems got really serious for me, in the
    relationship with you, 10 years ago, in 2009, when I became psychotic.

    It is about the placement of responsibility, what is my fault, what is
    your fault, what the healthcare system's fault, what is the police's
    fault, what is the child protection services' fault, what are the court appointed mental health professionals' fault etc.

    It may very well be, that I get reimbursed for the court costs in the
    court case in the summer 2015 for example [regarding the kids] - so that
    I don't have to use 12.000 kroner of a gross income of 200.000 kroner
    [NOK] a yearpaying interest [on your court costs, to you], and you can
    get what I owe you.

    -Morten

    Original Norwegian version:

    Fra: Morten W. Petersen <morphex@gmail.com>
    Date: søn. 12. mai 2019, 07.51
    Subject: Full forklaring fra deg, siden du ble kjent med meg
    To: hilde olsen <hilol79@hotmail.com>
    Cc: Vebjørn Svidal <vebjornsvidal@gmail.com>, Sveinung Hestad Strand <strand@lovehjerte.no>, <rana.tingrett@domstol.no>,
    <postmottak@domstol.no>, Bakke, Kirsti <Kirsti.Bakke@rana.kommune.no>,
    Rana kommune <Servicetorget@rana.kommune.no>, <webred@adresseavisen.no>


    Hei Hilde.

    Jeg har vel bedt om dette tidligere, jeg ønsker en skriftlig forklaring
    på hva du har foretatt deg i forhold til meg, siden du ble kjent med meg.

    Det er jo slik at du og jeg har vært i en konflikt i 6 år om ungene, og problemene startet for alvor for meg, i relasjonen med deg, for 10 år
    siden, i 2009, når jeg ble psykotisk.

    Det handler om plassering av ansvar, hva som er min feil, hva som er din
    feil, hva som er helsevesenet sin feil, hva som er politiet sin feil,
    hva som er barnevernet sin feil, hva som er sakkyndige sin feil, osv.

    Det kan godt være at jeg får erstatning for sakskostnader
    barnefordelingssak sommeren 2015 f.eks. - slik at jeg slipper å bruke
    12.000 kroner av en brutto inntekt på ca 200.000 på å betale renter til
    deg, og du kan få det du har utestående.

    -Morten

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