By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and >Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they could soon
face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a new strain of the
virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in February
found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in the spring of
2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to
no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and
social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was supposed to
be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it spread and how to
fight it. Remember washing your hands for twenty seconds, and spraying >alcohol solution on your grocery bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:24:03 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and >Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they could soon
face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a new strain of the
virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in the
spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the U.S.
and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to
no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and
social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was supposed
to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it spread and how
to fight it. Remember washing your hands for twenty seconds, and
spraying alcohol solution on your grocery bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
Even if I seldom agree with his politics, Josh is among the smartest
people ever to post to what is now the near dead soc.retirement and
was here long before you showed up. Show him a little respect.
On 3/19/2022 6:24 AM, Johnny wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and
Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they could soon
face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a new strain of the
virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in February
found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in the spring of
2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to
no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and
social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was supposed to
be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it spread and how to
fight it. Remember washing your hands for twenty seconds, and spraying
alcohol solution on your grocery bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
I still do because he knows much more than you or I. And while he got
some things wrong, it was based on incomplete data and he corrected
himself as new data emerged.
Take for instance his statement from this article: "If in fact, we do
see a turnaround and a resurgence, we have to be able to pivot and go
back to any degree of mitigation that is commensurate with what the
situation is." That strikes me as both reasonable and prudent.
Do you agree, Jeff?
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they could soon
face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a new strain of the
virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in February
found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in the spring of
2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to
no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and
social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was supposed to
be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it spread and how to
fight it. Remember washing your hands for twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 09:56:30 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:24:03 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and
Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they could soon
face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a new strain of the
virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in the
spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the U.S.
and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to
no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and
social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was supposed
to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it spread and how
to fight it. Remember washing your hands for twenty seconds, and
spraying alcohol solution on your grocery bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
Even if I seldom agree with his politics, Josh is among the smartest
people ever to post to what is now the near dead soc.retirement and
was here long before you showed up. Show him a little respect.
I'll show him a little respect when he admits this country was in the
best shape its been in, in many years during Trump's term in office,
and Biden has done nothing but screw it up.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:32:10 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 6:24 AM, Johnny wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy
and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they
could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a new
strain of the virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the
U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little
to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic
and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it
spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
I still do because he knows much more than you or I. And while he
got some things wrong, it was based on incomplete data and he
corrected himself as new data emerged.
Take for instance his statement from this article: "If in fact, we
do see a turnaround and a resurgence, we have to be able to pivot
and go back to any degree of mitigation that is commensurate with
what the situation is." That strikes me as both reasonable and
prudent.
Do you agree, Jeff?
Of course.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 09:56:30 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:24:03 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and
Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they could soon
face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a new strain of the
virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in the
spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the U.S.
and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to
no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and
social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was supposed
to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it spread and how
to fight it. Remember washing your hands for twenty seconds, and
spraying alcohol solution on your grocery bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
Even if I seldom agree with his politics, Josh is among the smartest
people ever to post to what is now the near dead soc.retirement and
was here long before you showed up. Show him a little respect.
I'll show him a little respect when he admits this country was in the
best shape its been in, in many years during Trump's term in office,
and Biden has done nothing but screw it up.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:48:16 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:32:10 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 6:24 AM, Johnny wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy
and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they
could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a new
strain of the virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the
U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little
to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic
and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it
spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
I still do because he knows much more than you or I. And while he
got some things wrong, it was based on incomplete data and he
corrected himself as new data emerged.
Take for instance his statement from this article: "If in fact, we
do see a turnaround and a resurgence, we have to be able to pivot
and go back to any degree of mitigation that is commensurate with
what the situation is." That strikes me as both reasonable and
prudent.
Do you agree, Jeff?
Of course.
It's unbelievable to me that either one of you would agree to another lockdown, when it has been shown that it does nothing to prevent the
spread of a virus.
We still have supply chain problems from the last lockdown, that caused companies to shutdown and stop production.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:13:54 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 09:56:30 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:24:03 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net>
wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy
and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they
could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a
new strain of the virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the
U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had
little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous
economic and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it
spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery
bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
Even if I seldom agree with his politics, Josh is among the
smartest people ever to post to what is now the near dead
soc.retirement and was here long before you showed up. Show him a
little respect.
I'll show him a little respect when he admits this country was in the
best shape its been in, in many years during Trump's term in office,
and Biden has done nothing but screw it up.
Aside from Trump's despicable behavior in the final weeks of his term,
on that we can agree.
Now how about you?
Should Trump have encouraged Pence not to certify the election?
Should the Jan 6 invaders of the Capitol be prosecuted?
Are you vaccinated and boosted?
On 3/19/2022 11:21 AM, Johnny wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:48:16 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:32:10 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 6:24 AM, Johnny wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy
and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they
could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a
new strain of the virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the
U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had
little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous
economic and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it
spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery
bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
I still do because he knows much more than you or I. And while he
got some things wrong, it was based on incomplete data and he
corrected himself as new data emerged.
Take for instance his statement from this article: "If in fact, we
do see a turnaround and a resurgence, we have to be able to pivot
and go back to any degree of mitigation that is commensurate with
what the situation is." That strikes me as both reasonable and
prudent.
Do you agree, Jeff?
Of course.
It's unbelievable to me that either one of you would agree to
another lockdown, when it has been shown that it does nothing to
prevent the spread of a virus.
We still have supply chain problems from the last lockdown, that
caused companies to shutdown and stop production.
Firstly, no one has called for a lockdown. Secondly, your study's
conclusion is highly controversial. See for example:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1489197128916389894.html https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97056
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 11:58:54 -0700
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 11:21 AM, Johnny wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:48:16 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:32:10 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 6:24 AM, Johnny wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy
and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they
could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a
new strain of the virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the
U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had
little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous
economic and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it
spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery
bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
I still do because he knows much more than you or I. And while he
got some things wrong, it was based on incomplete data and he
corrected himself as new data emerged.
Take for instance his statement from this article: "If in fact, we
do see a turnaround and a resurgence, we have to be able to pivot
and go back to any degree of mitigation that is commensurate with
what the situation is." That strikes me as both reasonable and
prudent.
Do you agree, Jeff?
Of course.
It's unbelievable to me that either one of you would agree to
another lockdown, when it has been shown that it does nothing to
prevent the spread of a virus.
We still have supply chain problems from the last lockdown, that
caused companies to shutdown and stop production.
Firstly, no one has called for a lockdown. Secondly, your study's
conclusion is highly controversial. See for example:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1489197128916389894.html
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97056
The subject of this discussion is: Fauci warns Americans could face
more lockdowns.
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in February
found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in the spring of
2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the U.S. and Europe.
That seems to be El Castor's favorite source of information.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:48:16 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:32:10 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 6:24 AM, Johnny wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy
and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they
could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a new
strain of the virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the
U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little
to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic
and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it
spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
I still do because he knows much more than you or I. And while he
got some things wrong, it was based on incomplete data and he
corrected himself as new data emerged.
Take for instance his statement from this article: "If in fact, we
do see a turnaround and a resurgence, we have to be able to pivot
and go back to any degree of mitigation that is commensurate with
what the situation is." That strikes me as both reasonable and
prudent.
Do you agree, Jeff?
Of course.
It's unbelievable to me that either one of you would agree to another >lockdown, when it has been shown that it does nothing to prevent the
spread of a virus.
We still have supply chain problems from the last lockdown, that caused >companies to shutdown and stop production.Commensurate with the situation! Get it?
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 11:16:16 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:13:54 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 09:56:30 -0700Aside from Trump's despicable behavior in the final weeks of his term,
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:24:03 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net>
wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy
and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they
could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a
new strain of the virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the
U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had
little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous
economic and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it
spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery
bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
Even if I seldom agree with his politics, Josh is among the
smartest people ever to post to what is now the near dead
soc.retirement and was here long before you showed up. Show him a
little respect.
I'll show him a little respect when he admits this country was in the
best shape its been in, in many years during Trump's term in office,
and Biden has done nothing but screw it up.
on that we can agree.
Now how about you?
Should Trump have encouraged Pence not to certify the election?
Should the Jan 6 invaders of the Capitol be prosecuted?
Are you vaccinated and boosted?
Will you quit asking me those questions? I have answered them both.
On 3/19/2022 12:05 PM, Johnny wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 11:58:54 -0700
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 11:21 AM, Johnny wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:48:16 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:32:10 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 6:24 AM, Johnny wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy >>>>>>> and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they
could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a
new strain of the virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the >>>>>>> U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had
little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous
economic and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it
spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery
bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
I still do because he knows much more than you or I. And while he
got some things wrong, it was based on incomplete data and he
corrected himself as new data emerged.
Take for instance his statement from this article: "If in fact, we >>>>>> do see a turnaround and a resurgence, we have to be able to pivot
and go back to any degree of mitigation that is commensurate with
what the situation is." That strikes me as both reasonable and
prudent.
Do you agree, Jeff?
Of course.
It's unbelievable to me that either one of you would agree to
another lockdown, when it has been shown that it does nothing to
prevent the spread of a virus.
We still have supply chain problems from the last lockdown, that
caused companies to shutdown and stop production.
Firstly, no one has called for a lockdown. Secondly, your study's
conclusion is highly controversial. See for example:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1489197128916389894.html
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97056
The subject of this discussion is: Fauci warns Americans could face
more lockdowns.
That's the Fox News headline, not what Fauci said.
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in February
found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in the spring of
2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the U.S. and Europe.
That seems to be El Castor's favorite source of information.
If you read my link, you would realize that the working paper (not yet
peer reviewed) is not from John Hopkins. Instead, one of its two authors
is an economics professor at Johns Hopkins.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 13:23:37 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 11:16:16 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:13:54 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net>
wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 09:56:30 -0700Aside from Trump's despicable behavior in the final weeks of his
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:24:03 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net>
wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of
Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week
that they could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown
measures should a new strain of the virus cause case numbers
to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in
the U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had
little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous
economic and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it
spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery
bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
Even if I seldom agree with his politics, Josh is among the
smartest people ever to post to what is now the near dead
soc.retirement and was here long before you showed up. Show him
a little respect.
I'll show him a little respect when he admits this country was in
the best shape its been in, in many years during Trump's term in
office, and Biden has done nothing but screw it up.
term, on that we can agree.
Now how about you?
Should Trump have encouraged Pence not to certify the election?
Should the Jan 6 invaders of the Capitol be prosecuted?
Are you vaccinated and boosted?
Will you quit asking me those questions? I have answered them both.
Evasion. A simple yes or no will suffice.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 13:21:10 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:48:16 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:32:10 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 6:24 AM, Johnny wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy
and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they
could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a
new strain of the virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the
U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had
little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous
economic and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it
spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery
bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
I still do because he knows much more than you or I. And while he
got some things wrong, it was based on incomplete data and he
corrected himself as new data emerged.
Take for instance his statement from this article: "If in fact, we
do see a turnaround and a resurgence, we have to be able to pivot
and go back to any degree of mitigation that is commensurate with
what the situation is." That strikes me as both reasonable and
prudent.
Do you agree, Jeff?
Of course.
It's unbelievable to me that either one of you would agree to another >lockdown, when it has been shown that it does nothing to prevent the
spread of a virus.
"IF we have a RESURGENCE" should we respond with mitigation
"COMMENSURATE with the SITUATION"?
How could an intelligent answer be anything but YES?
We still have supply chain problems from the last lockdown, thatCommensurate with the situation! Get it?
caused companies to shutdown and stop production.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:13:28 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 12:05 PM, Johnny wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 11:58:54 -0700
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 11:21 AM, Johnny wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:48:16 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:32:10 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 6:24 AM, Johnny wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of
Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week
that they could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown
measures should a new strain of the virus cause case numbers
to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in >>>>>>> February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave
in the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2%
in the U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had
little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous >>>>>>> economic and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it >>>>>>> spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery
bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
I still do because he knows much more than you or I. And while
he got some things wrong, it was based on incomplete data and
he corrected himself as new data emerged.
Take for instance his statement from this article: "If in
fact, we do see a turnaround and a resurgence, we have to be
able to pivot and go back to any degree of mitigation that is
commensurate with what the situation is." That strikes me as
both reasonable and prudent.
Do you agree, Jeff?
Of course.
It's unbelievable to me that either one of you would agree to
another lockdown, when it has been shown that it does nothing to
prevent the spread of a virus.
We still have supply chain problems from the last lockdown, that
caused companies to shutdown and stop production.
Firstly, no one has called for a lockdown. Secondly, your study's
conclusion is highly controversial. See for example:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1489197128916389894.html
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97056
The subject of this discussion is: Fauci warns Americans could
face more lockdowns.
That's the Fox News headline, not what Fauci said.
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the
U.S. and Europe.
That seems to be El Castor's favorite source of information.
If you read my link, you would realize that the working paper (not
yet peer reviewed) is not from John Hopkins. Instead, one of its two >authors is an economics professor at Johns Hopkins.
The real problem seems to be that Johnny has a problem with big words
like commensurate.
Here's Webster's definition:
"corresponding in size, extent, amount, or degree : proportionate"
The extent of the response could not be determined or debated until
the severity of the resurgence was determined. If three people in
Boise sneezed that would be one thing. Tens of thousands dropping in
the street coast to coast would constitute a very different response.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 15:04:06 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 13:21:10 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:48:16 -0700"IF we have a RESURGENCE" should we respond with mitigation
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:32:10 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 6:24 AM, Johnny wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy
and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week that they
could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown measures should a
new strain of the virus cause case numbers to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the
U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had
little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous
economic and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it
spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery
bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
I still do because he knows much more than you or I. And while he
got some things wrong, it was based on incomplete data and he
corrected himself as new data emerged.
Take for instance his statement from this article: "If in fact, we
do see a turnaround and a resurgence, we have to be able to pivot
and go back to any degree of mitigation that is commensurate with
what the situation is." That strikes me as both reasonable and
prudent.
Do you agree, Jeff?
Of course.
It's unbelievable to me that either one of you would agree to another
lockdown, when it has been shown that it does nothing to prevent the
spread of a virus.
"COMMENSURATE with the SITUATION"?
How could an intelligent answer be anything but YES?
We still have supply chain problems from the last lockdown, thatCommensurate with the situation! Get it?
caused companies to shutdown and stop production.
If Fauci say we have to lockdown again, will you agree?
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 14:56:23 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 13:23:37 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 11:16:16 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:13:54 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net>
wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 09:56:30 -0700Aside from Trump's despicable behavior in the final weeks of his
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:24:03 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net>
wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of
Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week
that they could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown
measures should a new strain of the virus cause case numbers
to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in
the U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had
little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous
economic and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it
spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery
bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
Even if I seldom agree with his politics, Josh is among the
smartest people ever to post to what is now the near dead
soc.retirement and was here long before you showed up. Show him
a little respect.
I'll show him a little respect when he admits this country was in
the best shape its been in, in many years during Trump's term in
office, and Biden has done nothing but screw it up.
term, on that we can agree.
Now how about you?
Should Trump have encouraged Pence not to certify the election?
Should the Jan 6 invaders of the Capitol be prosecuted?
Are you vaccinated and boosted?
Will you quit asking me those questions? I have answered them both.
Evasion. A simple yes or no will suffice.
There is no evasion, you just don't keep up with the conversation. Go
back and find what I said.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:28:27 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 14:56:23 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 13:23:37 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net>
wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 11:16:16 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:13:54 -0500, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net>
wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 09:56:30 -0700Aside from Trump's despicable behavior in the final weeks of his
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:24:03 -0500, Johnny
<johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of
Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week
that they could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown
measures should a new strain of the virus cause case numbers
to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies
in February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19
wave in the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality
by .2% in the U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had
little to no public health effects, they have imposed
enormous economic and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how
it spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands
for twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your
grocery bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
Even if I seldom agree with his politics, Josh is among the
smartest people ever to post to what is now the near dead
soc.retirement and was here long before you showed up. Show
him a little respect.
I'll show him a little respect when he admits this country was
in the best shape its been in, in many years during Trump's
term in office, and Biden has done nothing but screw it up.
term, on that we can agree.
Now how about you?
Should Trump have encouraged Pence not to certify the election?
Should the Jan 6 invaders of the Capitol be prosecuted?
Are you vaccinated and boosted?
Will you quit asking me those questions? I have answered them
both.
Evasion. A simple yes or no will suffice.
There is no evasion, you just don't keep up with the conversation.
Go back and find what I said.
Evasion. A simple yes or no will suffice.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 15:16:26 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:13:28 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 12:05 PM, Johnny wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 11:58:54 -0700
Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 11:21 AM, Johnny wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:48:16 -0700
El Castor <JustUsChickens@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:32:10 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 3/19/2022 6:24 AM, Johnny wrote:
By Kyle Morris
Published March 18, 2022
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of
Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned Americans this week
that they could soon face additional COVID-19 lockdown
measures should a new strain of the virus cause case numbers
to increase.
Cut!
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave
in the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2%
in the U.S. and Europe.
"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had
little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous
economic and social costs...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-warns-americans-could-face-more-lockdowns-amid-spread-of-new-covid-19-variant
Why would anyone take the advice of this quack? Fauci was
supposed to be an expert on the virus, and know exactly how it
spread and how to fight it. Remember washing your hands for
twenty seconds, and spraying alcohol solution on your grocery
bags?
It turns out Fauci knew about as much as the average person.
Josh loved to quote Fauci.
I still do because he knows much more than you or I. And while
he got some things wrong, it was based on incomplete data and
he corrected himself as new data emerged.
Take for instance his statement from this article: "If in
fact, we do see a turnaround and a resurgence, we have to be
able to pivot and go back to any degree of mitigation that is
commensurate with what the situation is." That strikes me as
both reasonable and prudent.
Do you agree, Jeff?
Of course.
It's unbelievable to me that either one of you would agree to
another lockdown, when it has been shown that it does nothing to
prevent the spread of a virus.
We still have supply chain problems from the last lockdown, that
caused companies to shutdown and stop production.
Firstly, no one has called for a lockdown. Secondly, your study's
conclusion is highly controversial. See for example:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1489197128916389894.html
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97056
The subject of this discussion is: Fauci warns Americans could
face more lockdowns.
That's the Fox News headline, not what Fauci said.
A Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies in
February found that lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in
the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the
U.S. and Europe.
That seems to be El Castor's favorite source of information.
If you read my link, you would realize that the working paper (not
yet peer reviewed) is not from John Hopkins. Instead, one of its two
authors is an economics professor at Johns Hopkins.
The real problem seems to be that Johnny has a problem with big words
like commensurate.
Here's Webster's definition:
"corresponding in size, extent, amount, or degree : proportionate"
The extent of the response could not be determined or debated until
the severity of the resurgence was determined. If three people in
Boise sneezed that would be one thing. Tens of thousands dropping in
the street coast to coast would constitute a very different response.
You seem to have trouble understanding with any degree of mitigation
needed. That includes a lockdown. One more will destroy this country
and you won't have to worry about the virus any more, you will have
worry about find food to eat.
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