Here it is -- A Very long 7 minutes of defund the police. https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1446198947559743488

On the other hand ...
"Why violent crime surged after police across America retreated
Even the most dedicated officers who now face a greater risk of being
sued, fired or prosecuted for doing their job feel pressure to pull
back." https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/2021/04/09/violent-crime-surged-across-america-after-police-retreated-column/7137565002/

"Shootings Increase 73%, Robberies Up 47% as New York City Contends
With Spike in Crime"
https://www.newsweek.com/nyc-crime-rates-1597400

I am frequently in San Francisco, but there are large parts of the
city where I would not set foot -- or park a car. It is not what it
once was.

"Poll: San Francisco Residents Consider Relocating As Crime Worsens,
Quality Of Life In A Decline" https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/06/30/poll-san-francisco-residents-consider-relocating-as-crime-worsen-quality-of-life-in-a-decline/

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On 10/16/2021 11:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

Here it is -- A Very long 7 minutes of defund the police. https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1446198947559743488

Some in your video call for defunding the police. Many do not, instead
calling for reallocation of some resources. Recall I said police are
asked to do the work of mental health professionals and that shouldn't
be their job.

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On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 07:53:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/16/2021 11:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

Here it is -- A Very long 7 minutes of defund the police.
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1446198947559743488

Some in your video call for defunding the police. Many do not, instead >calling for reallocation of some resources. Recall I said police are
asked to do the work of mental health professionals and that shouldn't
be their job.

I suspect where we differ is when, and under what circumstance, a
mental health professional is appropriate. I believe that in the event
of genuine mental illness like schizophrenia it is appropriate, but
does the man filling a duffel bag in Walgreens need mental help? What
the Left seems unwilling to accept is that most crime is a product of
low intelligence, a genetic deficiency that unfortunately plagues a
significant portion of our population, and is particularly burdensome
on our Black community. Accept reality and then we can start
discussing real world remedies.

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On 10/17/2021 12:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 07:53:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/16/2021 11:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

Here it is -- A Very long 7 minutes of defund the police.
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1446198947559743488

Some in your video call for defunding the police. Many do not, instead
calling for reallocation of some resources. Recall I said police are
asked to do the work of mental health professionals and that shouldn't
be their job.

I suspect where we differ is when, and under what circumstance, a
mental health professional is appropriate. I believe that in the event
of genuine mental illness like schizophrenia it is appropriate, but
does the man filling a duffel bag in Walgreens need mental help?

If you have an active shoplifter, of course you call the police (it was
correct to call the police for George Floyd who was suspected of passing
a counterfeit bill). Whether the police need to bring in a mental health professional depends on what happens at the scene.

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On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 12:19:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/17/2021 12:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 07:53:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/16/2021 11:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

Here it is -- A Very long 7 minutes of defund the police.
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1446198947559743488

Some in your video call for defunding the police. Many do not, instead
calling for reallocation of some resources. Recall I said police are
asked to do the work of mental health professionals and that shouldn't
be their job.

I suspect where we differ is when, and under what circumstance, a
mental health professional is appropriate. I believe that in the event
of genuine mental illness like schizophrenia it is appropriate, but
does the man filling a duffel bag in Walgreens need mental help?

If you have an active shoplifter, of course you call the police (it was >correct to call the police for George Floyd who was suspected of passing
a counterfeit bill). Whether the police need to bring in a mental health >professional depends on what happens at the scene.

Ah, mental health professional -- that's the solution. Back in the day California had several large institutions for the mentally ill --
Napa, Agnews, and others. The Left was horrified. The insane asylums
were closed and the occupants moved to half way houses in cities like
San Francisco -- boarding houses where they could receive treatment.
That didn't work, the mentally ill left and took up residence in the
alleys and parks of those cities where they could drink, do drugs, and
be merry -- and they became a problem for the police. Now they will be
rescued by mental health professionals? Seems like that has been
tried.

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On 10/17/2021 12:55 PM, El Castor wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 12:19:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/17/2021 12:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 07:53:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/16/2021 11:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

Here it is -- A Very long 7 minutes of defund the police.
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1446198947559743488

Some in your video call for defunding the police. Many do not, instead >>>> calling for reallocation of some resources. Recall I said police are
asked to do the work of mental health professionals and that shouldn't >>>> be their job.

I suspect where we differ is when, and under what circumstance, a
mental health professional is appropriate. I believe that in the event
of genuine mental illness like schizophrenia it is appropriate, but
does the man filling a duffel bag in Walgreens need mental help?

If you have an active shoplifter, of course you call the police (it was
correct to call the police for George Floyd who was suspected of passing
a counterfeit bill). Whether the police need to bring in a mental health
professional depends on what happens at the scene.

Ah, mental health professional -- that's the solution. Back in the day California had several large institutions for the mentally ill --

That's has no relevance to my argument. Once again, the police should
have called for help when Floyd was spacing out about getting into the
car and Floyd was not mentally ill.

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On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:59:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/17/2021 12:55 PM, El Castor wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 12:19:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/17/2021 12:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 07:53:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/16/2021 11:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

Here it is -- A Very long 7 minutes of defund the police.
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1446198947559743488

Some in your video call for defunding the police. Many do not, instead >>>>> calling for reallocation of some resources. Recall I said police are >>>>> asked to do the work of mental health professionals and that shouldn't >>>>> be their job.

I suspect where we differ is when, and under what circumstance, a
mental health professional is appropriate. I believe that in the event >>>> of genuine mental illness like schizophrenia it is appropriate, but
does the man filling a duffel bag in Walgreens need mental help?

If you have an active shoplifter, of course you call the police (it was
correct to call the police for George Floyd who was suspected of passing >>> a counterfeit bill). Whether the police need to bring in a mental health >>> professional depends on what happens at the scene.

Ah, mental health professional -- that's the solution. Back in the day
California had several large institutions for the mentally ill --

That's has no relevance to my argument. Once again, the police should
have called for help when Floyd was spacing out about getting into the
car and Floyd was not mentally ill.

Granted that the knee on the neck was poor police work, but Floyd knew
very well that he should follow their instructions. This was not his
first encounter with law enforcement. He had a lengthy criminal
record, served eight jail terms and 4 years in prison. More problems
ensued when he moved to Minnesotta, and this was not his first
encounter with the local police. Fight the police and sooner or later
it may not go well, and in his case it certainly did not. If your
remedy is a policy that rewards criminals who fight and refuse to obey
with an ambulance ride, drugs, and sympathetic counseling, my guess is
that fighting and refusal to obey police would become standard
criminal procedure just as the decriminalization of shoplifting has
encouraged more, not less, crime.

"In 2014, the state of California all but decriminalized shoplifting.
The result? Rampant theft and store closures in San Francisco.
At a board of supervisors hearing in the city this month, Walgreens
said theft at its drug-store chains in San Francisco was four times
its national average, and as a result, they had to shutter 17 stores
because more was being stolen from them than purchased." https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/24/san-franciscos-shoplifting-bonanza/

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On 10/17/2021 10:10 PM, El Castor wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:59:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/17/2021 12:55 PM, El Castor wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 12:19:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/17/2021 12:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 07:53:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/16/2021 11:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

Here it is -- A Very long 7 minutes of defund the police.
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1446198947559743488

Some in your video call for defunding the police. Many do not, instead >>>>>> calling for reallocation of some resources. Recall I said police are >>>>>> asked to do the work of mental health professionals and that shouldn't >>>>>> be their job.

I suspect where we differ is when, and under what circumstance, a
mental health professional is appropriate. I believe that in the event >>>>> of genuine mental illness like schizophrenia it is appropriate, but
does the man filling a duffel bag in Walgreens need mental help?

If you have an active shoplifter, of course you call the police (it was >>>> correct to call the police for George Floyd who was suspected of passing >>>> a counterfeit bill). Whether the police need to bring in a mental health >>>> professional depends on what happens at the scene.

Ah, mental health professional -- that's the solution. Back in the day
California had several large institutions for the mentally ill --

That's has no relevance to my argument. Once again, the police should
have called for help when Floyd was spacing out about getting into the
car and Floyd was not mentally ill.

Granted that the knee on the neck was poor police work, but Floyd knew
very well that he should follow their instructions. This was not his
first encounter with law enforcement. He had a lengthy criminal
record, served eight jail terms and 4 years in prison. More problems
ensued when he moved to Minnesotta, and this was not his first
encounter with the local police. Fight the police and sooner or later
it may not go well, and in his case it certainly did not. If your
remedy is a policy that rewards criminals who fight and refuse to obey
with an ambulance ride, drugs, and sympathetic counseling, my guess is
that fighting and refusal to obey police would become standard
criminal procedure just as the decriminalization of shoplifting has encouraged more, not less, crime.

The ambulance ride would end in an arrest.

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On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:51:04 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/17/2021 10:10 PM, El Castor wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:59:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/17/2021 12:55 PM, El Castor wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 12:19:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/17/2021 12:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 07:53:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

On 10/16/2021 11:08 PM, El Castor wrote:

Here it is -- A Very long 7 minutes of defund the police.
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1446198947559743488

Some in your video call for defunding the police. Many do not, instead >>>>>>> calling for reallocation of some resources. Recall I said police are >>>>>>> asked to do the work of mental health professionals and that shouldn't >>>>>>> be their job.

I suspect where we differ is when, and under what circumstance, a
mental health professional is appropriate. I believe that in the event >>>>>> of genuine mental illness like schizophrenia it is appropriate, but >>>>>> does the man filling a duffel bag in Walgreens need mental help?

If you have an active shoplifter, of course you call the police (it was >>>>> correct to call the police for George Floyd who was suspected of passing >>>>> a counterfeit bill). Whether the police need to bring in a mental health >>>>> professional depends on what happens at the scene.

Ah, mental health professional -- that's the solution. Back in the day >>>> California had several large institutions for the mentally ill --

That's has no relevance to my argument. Once again, the police should
have called for help when Floyd was spacing out about getting into the
car and Floyd was not mentally ill.

Granted that the knee on the neck was poor police work, but Floyd knew
very well that he should follow their instructions. This was not his
first encounter with law enforcement. He had a lengthy criminal
record, served eight jail terms and 4 years in prison. More problems
ensued when he moved to Minnesotta, and this was not his first
encounter with the local police. Fight the police and sooner or later
it may not go well, and in his case it certainly did not. If your
remedy is a policy that rewards criminals who fight and refuse to obey
with an ambulance ride, drugs, and sympathetic counseling, my guess is
that fighting and refusal to obey police would become standard
criminal procedure just as the decriminalization of shoplifting has
encouraged more, not less, crime.

The ambulance ride would end in an arrest.

Maybe or maybe not. I have little confidence in solutions offered by
the Left. The Left is motivated more by emotion than logic. Logical
action would be accompanied by a thoughtful analysis of the likely
outcome of the action. Thus we have cancellation of the Keystone
pipeline and an end to oil and gas leases on public land -- an
emotional response to the dreaded global warming -- followed by
soaring gas prices at the pump and soaring heating prices this winter.
The Left views petty thieves as victims of a cruel capitalist system
-- thus a criminal system that extends a helping hand to those poor
victims and Walgreens closes 17 stores.

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