• Biden Articles of Impeachment Introduced

    From El Castor@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 22 16:12:01 2021
    "Four House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against
    Biden"

    ''According to the Examiner, the first count says Mr. Biden “violated
    his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of president”
    by releasing “thousands of migrants who entered the United States
    illegally without a date to appear in court for immigration.”
    The second count says Mr. Biden overstepped presidential authority
    with his second eviction-moratorium order “despite the clear warning
    from the U.S. Supreme Court” and “with no legislative directive from
    the U.S. Congress.”
    The third article says Mr. Biden “failed to act responsibly as commander-in-chief with regard to the withdrawal of United States
    forces from Afghanistan.”" https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/21/joe-biden-articles-impeachment-introduced-four-hou/

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to El Castor on Wed Sep 22 17:58:01 2021
    On 9/22/2021 4:12 PM, El Castor wrote:
    "Four House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against
    Biden"

    ''According to the Examiner, the first count says Mr. Biden “violated
    his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of president”
    by releasing “thousands of migrants who entered the United States
    illegally without a date to appear in court for immigration.”
    The second count says Mr. Biden overstepped presidential authority
    with his second eviction-moratorium order “despite the clear warning
    from the U.S. Supreme Court” and “with no legislative directive from
    the U.S. Congress.”
    The third article says Mr. Biden “failed to act responsibly as commander-in-chief with regard to the withdrawal of United States
    forces from Afghanistan.”" https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/21/joe-biden-articles-impeachment-introduced-four-hou/

    These are policy differences which are decided by elections, not
    impeachment.

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  • From El Castor@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Wed Sep 22 20:58:32 2021
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:58:01 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 4:12 PM, El Castor wrote:
    "Four House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against
    Biden"

    ''According to the Examiner, the first count says Mr. Biden “violated
    his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of president”
    by releasing “thousands of migrants who entered the United States
    illegally without a date to appear in court for immigration.”
    The second count says Mr. Biden overstepped presidential authority
    with his second eviction-moratorium order “despite the clear warning
    from the U.S. Supreme Court” and “with no legislative directive from
    the U.S. Congress.”
    The third article says Mr. Biden “failed to act responsibly as
    commander-in-chief with regard to the withdrawal of United States
    forces from Afghanistan.”"
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/21/joe-biden-articles-impeachment-introduced-four-hou/

    These are policy differences which are decided by elections, not
    impeachment.

    Hmmm.
    * Violated Constitutional Oath
    * Overstepped Presidential Authority
    * Failed To Act Responsibly As Commander In Chief

    I suspect many issues can be decided by either impeachment or the
    voters. These seem to qualify for either treatment, but Republicans
    currently lack the support in Congress for impeachment. Considering
    the magnitude of Biden's failings, that may change after the
    mid-terms. I see Gallup has his Presidential Approval Rating at 43%.
    That seems about 43% too high to me, but it just may be enough to send
    him packing. (-8

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to El Castor on Wed Sep 22 22:02:54 2021
    On 9/22/2021 8:58 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:58:01 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 4:12 PM, El Castor wrote:
    "Four House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against
    Biden"

    ''According to the Examiner, the first count says Mr. Biden “violated
    his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of president” >>> by releasing “thousands of migrants who entered the United States
    illegally without a date to appear in court for immigration.”
    The second count says Mr. Biden overstepped presidential authority
    with his second eviction-moratorium order “despite the clear warning
    from the U.S. Supreme Court” and “with no legislative directive from >>> the U.S. Congress.”
    The third article says Mr. Biden “failed to act responsibly as
    commander-in-chief with regard to the withdrawal of United States
    forces from Afghanistan.”"
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/21/joe-biden-articles-impeachment-introduced-four-hou/

    These are policy differences which are decided by elections, not
    impeachment.

    Hmmm.
    * Violated Constitutional Oath

    ... by releasing thousands of migrants who entered illegally without a
    date to appear in court for immigration. But, that's a policy choice
    based on Biden's interpretation of the law which no court has said is
    illegal.

    * Overstepped Presidential Authority

    ... with his second eviction moratorium order despite the clear warning
    from the U.S. Supreme Court. But, that was a policy choice based on
    Biden's interpretation of the law which no court had precluded (warnings
    from procedural rulings don't count). The Court has subsequently said
    the second order is illegal and Biden withdrew it.

    * Failed To Act Responsibly As Commander In Chief

    ... with regard to the withdrawal of United State forces from
    Afghanistan. But, that was an incompetently carried out policy choice
    which is not impeachable.

    I suspect many issues can be decided by either impeachment or the
    voters.

    Our democracy is screwed if they can be decided by impeachment.

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  • From El Castor@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Thu Sep 23 11:40:02 2021
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 22:02:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 8:58 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:58:01 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 4:12 PM, El Castor wrote:
    "Four House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against
    Biden"

    ''According to the Examiner, the first count says Mr. Biden “violated
    his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of president” >>>> by releasing “thousands of migrants who entered the United States
    illegally without a date to appear in court for immigration.”
    The second count says Mr. Biden overstepped presidential authority
    with his second eviction-moratorium order “despite the clear warning
    from the U.S. Supreme Court” and “with no legislative directive from
    the U.S. Congress.”
    The third article says Mr. Biden “failed to act responsibly as
    commander-in-chief with regard to the withdrawal of United States
    forces from Afghanistan.”"
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/21/joe-biden-articles-impeachment-introduced-four-hou/

    These are policy differences which are decided by elections, not
    impeachment.

    Hmmm.
    * Violated Constitutional Oath

    ... by releasing thousands of migrants who entered illegally without a
    date to appear in court for immigration. But, that's a policy choice
    based on Biden's interpretation of the law which no court has said is >illegal.

    * Overstepped Presidential Authority

    ... with his second eviction moratorium order despite the clear warning
    from the U.S. Supreme Court. But, that was a policy choice based on
    Biden's interpretation of the law which no court had precluded (warnings
    from procedural rulings don't count). The Court has subsequently said
    the second order is illegal and Biden withdrew it.

    * Failed To Act Responsibly As Commander In Chief

    ... with regard to the withdrawal of United State forces from
    Afghanistan. But, that was an incompetently carried out policy choice
    which is not impeachable.

    I suspect many issues can be decided by either impeachment or the
    voters.

    Our democracy is screwed if they can be decided by impeachment.

    Oh well, not to worry, if Biden was impeached, found guilty by the
    Senate, and removed from office on the aforementioned grounds, his
    impeachment would be ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, and overturned. Right?

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to El Castor on Thu Sep 23 17:34:36 2021
    On 9/23/2021 11:40 AM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 22:02:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 8:58 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:58:01 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 4:12 PM, El Castor wrote:
    "Four House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against
    Biden"

    ''According to the Examiner, the first count says Mr. Biden “violated >>>>> his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of president” >>>>> by releasing “thousands of migrants who entered the United States
    illegally without a date to appear in court for immigration.”
    The second count says Mr. Biden overstepped presidential authority
    with his second eviction-moratorium order “despite the clear warning >>>>> from the U.S. Supreme Court” and “with no legislative directive from >>>>> the U.S. Congress.”
    The third article says Mr. Biden “failed to act responsibly as
    commander-in-chief with regard to the withdrawal of United States
    forces from Afghanistan.”"
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/21/joe-biden-articles-impeachment-introduced-four-hou/

    These are policy differences which are decided by elections, not
    impeachment.

    Hmmm.
    * Violated Constitutional Oath

    ... by releasing thousands of migrants who entered illegally without a
    date to appear in court for immigration. But, that's a policy choice
    based on Biden's interpretation of the law which no court has said is
    illegal.

    * Overstepped Presidential Authority

    ... with his second eviction moratorium order despite the clear warning >>from the U.S. Supreme Court. But, that was a policy choice based on
    Biden's interpretation of the law which no court had precluded (warnings >>from procedural rulings don't count). The Court has subsequently said
    the second order is illegal and Biden withdrew it.

    * Failed To Act Responsibly As Commander In Chief

    ... with regard to the withdrawal of United State forces from
    Afghanistan. But, that was an incompetently carried out policy choice
    which is not impeachable.

    I suspect many issues can be decided by either impeachment or the
    voters.

    Our democracy is screwed if they can be decided by impeachment.

    Oh well, not to worry, if Biden was impeached, found guilty by the
    Senate, and removed from office on the aforementioned grounds, his impeachment would be ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, and overturned. Right?

    Of course not.

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  • From El Castor@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Fri Sep 24 08:14:59 2021
    On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:34:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/23/2021 11:40 AM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 22:02:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 8:58 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:58:01 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 4:12 PM, El Castor wrote:
    "Four House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against
    Biden"

    ''According to the Examiner, the first count says Mr. Biden “violated >>>>>> his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of president” >>>>>> by releasing “thousands of migrants who entered the United States
    illegally without a date to appear in court for immigration.”
    The second count says Mr. Biden overstepped presidential authority >>>>>> with his second eviction-moratorium order “despite the clear warning >>>>>> from the U.S. Supreme Court” and “with no legislative directive from >>>>>> the U.S. Congress.”
    The third article says Mr. Biden “failed to act responsibly as
    commander-in-chief with regard to the withdrawal of United States
    forces from Afghanistan.”"
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/21/joe-biden-articles-impeachment-introduced-four-hou/

    These are policy differences which are decided by elections, not
    impeachment.

    Hmmm.
    * Violated Constitutional Oath

    ... by releasing thousands of migrants who entered illegally without a
    date to appear in court for immigration. But, that's a policy choice
    based on Biden's interpretation of the law which no court has said is
    illegal.

    * Overstepped Presidential Authority

    ... with his second eviction moratorium order despite the clear warning >>>from the U.S. Supreme Court. But, that was a policy choice based on
    Biden's interpretation of the law which no court had precluded (warnings >>>from procedural rulings don't count). The Court has subsequently said
    the second order is illegal and Biden withdrew it.

    * Failed To Act Responsibly As Commander In Chief

    ... with regard to the withdrawal of United State forces from
    Afghanistan. But, that was an incompetently carried out policy choice
    which is not impeachable.

    I suspect many issues can be decided by either impeachment or the
    voters.

    Our democracy is screwed if they can be decided by impeachment.

    Oh well, not to worry, if Biden was impeached, found guilty by the
    Senate, and removed from office on the aforementioned grounds, his
    impeachment would be ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, and
    overturned. Right?

    Of course not.

    Oh? Then, like it or not, it looks like policy differences CAN be
    settled by impeachment, rather than elections. (-8

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to El Castor on Fri Sep 24 12:51:52 2021
    On 9/24/2021 8:14 AM, El Castor wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:34:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/23/2021 11:40 AM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 22:02:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 8:58 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:58:01 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 4:12 PM, El Castor wrote:
    "Four House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against >>>>>>> Biden"

    ''According to the Examiner, the first count says Mr. Biden “violated >>>>>>> his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of president”
    by releasing “thousands of migrants who entered the United States >>>>>>> illegally without a date to appear in court for immigration.”
    The second count says Mr. Biden overstepped presidential authority >>>>>>> with his second eviction-moratorium order “despite the clear warning >>>>>>> from the U.S. Supreme Court” and “with no legislative directive from
    the U.S. Congress.”
    The third article says Mr. Biden “failed to act responsibly as >>>>>>> commander-in-chief with regard to the withdrawal of United States >>>>>>> forces from Afghanistan.”"
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/21/joe-biden-articles-impeachment-introduced-four-hou/

    These are policy differences which are decided by elections, not
    impeachment.

    Hmmm.
    * Violated Constitutional Oath

    ... by releasing thousands of migrants who entered illegally without a >>>> date to appear in court for immigration. But, that's a policy choice
    based on Biden's interpretation of the law which no court has said is
    illegal.

    * Overstepped Presidential Authority

    ... with his second eviction moratorium order despite the clear warning >>> >from the U.S. Supreme Court. But, that was a policy choice based on
    Biden's interpretation of the law which no court had precluded (warnings >>> >from procedural rulings don't count). The Court has subsequently said
    the second order is illegal and Biden withdrew it.

    * Failed To Act Responsibly As Commander In Chief

    ... with regard to the withdrawal of United State forces from
    Afghanistan. But, that was an incompetently carried out policy choice
    which is not impeachable.

    I suspect many issues can be decided by either impeachment or the
    voters.

    Our democracy is screwed if they can be decided by impeachment.

    Oh well, not to worry, if Biden was impeached, found guilty by the
    Senate, and removed from office on the aforementioned grounds, his
    impeachment would be ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, and
    overturned. Right?

    Of course not.

    Oh? Then, like it or not, it looks like policy differences CAN be
    settled by impeachment, rather than elections. (-8

    Of course they can be, but our democracy is screwed if they are.

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  • From El Castor@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Fri Sep 24 14:33:16 2021
    On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 12:51:52 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/24/2021 8:14 AM, El Castor wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:34:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/23/2021 11:40 AM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 22:02:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 8:58 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:58:01 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 4:12 PM, El Castor wrote:
    "Four House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against >>>>>>>> Biden"

    ''According to the Examiner, the first count says Mr. Biden “violated >>>>>>>> his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of president” >>>>>>>> by releasing “thousands of migrants who entered the United States >>>>>>>> illegally without a date to appear in court for immigration.”
    The second count says Mr. Biden overstepped presidential authority >>>>>>>> with his second eviction-moratorium order “despite the clear warning >>>>>>>> from the U.S. Supreme Court” and “with no legislative directive from >>>>>>>> the U.S. Congress.”
    The third article says Mr. Biden “failed to act responsibly as >>>>>>>> commander-in-chief with regard to the withdrawal of United States >>>>>>>> forces from Afghanistan.”"
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/21/joe-biden-articles-impeachment-introduced-four-hou/

    These are policy differences which are decided by elections, not >>>>>>> impeachment.

    Hmmm.
    * Violated Constitutional Oath

    ... by releasing thousands of migrants who entered illegally without a >>>>> date to appear in court for immigration. But, that's a policy choice >>>>> based on Biden's interpretation of the law which no court has said is >>>>> illegal.

    * Overstepped Presidential Authority

    ... with his second eviction moratorium order despite the clear warning >>>> >from the U.S. Supreme Court. But, that was a policy choice based on
    Biden's interpretation of the law which no court had precluded (warnings >>>> >from procedural rulings don't count). The Court has subsequently said >>>>> the second order is illegal and Biden withdrew it.

    * Failed To Act Responsibly As Commander In Chief

    ... with regard to the withdrawal of United State forces from
    Afghanistan. But, that was an incompetently carried out policy choice >>>>> which is not impeachable.

    I suspect many issues can be decided by either impeachment or the
    voters.

    Our democracy is screwed if they can be decided by impeachment.

    Oh well, not to worry, if Biden was impeached, found guilty by the
    Senate, and removed from office on the aforementioned grounds, his
    impeachment would be ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, and
    overturned. Right?

    Of course not.

    Oh? Then, like it or not, it looks like policy differences CAN be
    settled by impeachment, rather than elections. (-8

    Of course they can be, but our democracy is screwed if they are.

    Then amend the Constitution.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to El Castor on Fri Sep 24 14:46:58 2021
    On 9/24/2021 2:33 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 12:51:52 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/24/2021 8:14 AM, El Castor wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:34:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/23/2021 11:40 AM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 22:02:54 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 8:58 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:58:01 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 4:12 PM, El Castor wrote:
    "Four House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against >>>>>>>>> Biden"

    ''According to the Examiner, the first count says Mr. Biden “violated
    his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of president”
    by releasing “thousands of migrants who entered the United States >>>>>>>>> illegally without a date to appear in court for immigration.” >>>>>>>>> The second count says Mr. Biden overstepped presidential authority >>>>>>>>> with his second eviction-moratorium order “despite the clear warning
    from the U.S. Supreme Court” and “with no legislative directive from
    the U.S. Congress.”
    The third article says Mr. Biden “failed to act responsibly as >>>>>>>>> commander-in-chief with regard to the withdrawal of United States >>>>>>>>> forces from Afghanistan.”"
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/21/joe-biden-articles-impeachment-introduced-four-hou/

    These are policy differences which are decided by elections, not >>>>>>>> impeachment.

    Hmmm.
    * Violated Constitutional Oath

    ... by releasing thousands of migrants who entered illegally without a >>>>>> date to appear in court for immigration. But, that's a policy choice >>>>>> based on Biden's interpretation of the law which no court has said is >>>>>> illegal.

    * Overstepped Presidential Authority

    ... with his second eviction moratorium order despite the clear warning >>>>> >from the U.S. Supreme Court. But, that was a policy choice based on >>>>>> Biden's interpretation of the law which no court had precluded (warnings >>>>> >from procedural rulings don't count). The Court has subsequently said >>>>>> the second order is illegal and Biden withdrew it.

    * Failed To Act Responsibly As Commander In Chief

    ... with regard to the withdrawal of United State forces from
    Afghanistan. But, that was an incompetently carried out policy choice >>>>>> which is not impeachable.

    I suspect many issues can be decided by either impeachment or the >>>>>>> voters.

    Our democracy is screwed if they can be decided by impeachment.

    Oh well, not to worry, if Biden was impeached, found guilty by the
    Senate, and removed from office on the aforementioned grounds, his
    impeachment would be ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, and >>>>> overturned. Right?

    Of course not.

    Oh? Then, like it or not, it looks like policy differences CAN be
    settled by impeachment, rather than elections. (-8

    Of course they can be, but our democracy is screwed if they are.

    Then amend the Constitution.

    Firstly, just because the Constitution allows it, doesn't mean we have
    to do it. Secondly, whether it screws our democracy or not does not in
    any way depend on whether the Constitution allows it.

    And just to show I am not being partisan, if Trump were impeached
    because he declared an emergency so that he could divert Pentagon
    funding to build a border wall, it would be very, very wrong to impeach
    him for it. Ditto for his order to include a citizenship question in the census, of which only later did SCOTUS say was not legal (but of course,
    he could be properly impeached if outright ignored SCOTUS).

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  • From El Castor@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Fri Sep 24 16:47:06 2021
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:58:01 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 4:12 PM, El Castor wrote:
    "Four House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against
    Biden"

    ''According to the Examiner, the first count says Mr. Biden “violated
    his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of president”
    by releasing “thousands of migrants who entered the United States
    illegally without a date to appear in court for immigration.”
    The second count says Mr. Biden overstepped presidential authority
    with his second eviction-moratorium order “despite the clear warning
    from the U.S. Supreme Court” and “with no legislative directive from
    the U.S. Congress.”
    The third article says Mr. Biden “failed to act responsibly as
    commander-in-chief with regard to the withdrawal of United States
    forces from Afghanistan.”"
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/21/joe-biden-articles-impeachment-introduced-four-hou/

    These are policy differences which are decided by elections, not
    impeachment.

    I'll give it to you on the eviction moratorium, but his failure to
    secure the border and pathetic screw-up in Afghanistan are in my
    opinion examples of unacceptable incompetence. Incompetence in the
    execution of his duties seems to me to be ample reason to remove him
    from office. That said ...

    * This is clearly just a political exercise and critique by
    Republicans of Biden's failure to adequately exercise the duties of
    his office --- with no hope of making it out of the House prior to the
    next mid-term.
    * If it did somehow succeed, Harris would be president, which would no
    doubt delight most Democrats.

    For those reasons my reaction to the whole thing is a big yawn.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to El Castor on Fri Sep 24 17:16:47 2021
    On 9/24/2021 4:47 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:58:01 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 4:12 PM, El Castor wrote:
    "Four House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against
    Biden"

    ''According to the Examiner, the first count says Mr. Biden “violated
    his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of president” >>> by releasing “thousands of migrants who entered the United States
    illegally without a date to appear in court for immigration.”
    The second count says Mr. Biden overstepped presidential authority
    with his second eviction-moratorium order “despite the clear warning
    from the U.S. Supreme Court” and “with no legislative directive from >>> the U.S. Congress.”
    The third article says Mr. Biden “failed to act responsibly as
    commander-in-chief with regard to the withdrawal of United States
    forces from Afghanistan.”"
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/21/joe-biden-articles-impeachment-introduced-four-hou/

    These are policy differences which are decided by elections, not
    impeachment.

    I'll give it to you on the eviction moratorium, but his failure to
    secure the border and pathetic screw-up in Afghanistan are in my
    opinion examples of unacceptable incompetence. Incompetence in the
    execution of his duties seems to me to be ample reason to remove him
    from office. That said ...

    * This is clearly just a political exercise and critique by
    Republicans of Biden's failure to adequately exercise the duties of
    his office --- with no hope of making it out of the House prior to the
    next mid-term.
    * If it did somehow succeed, Harris would be president, which would no
    doubt delight most Democrats.

    For those reasons my reaction to the whole thing is a big yawn.

    I'll give you that impeachment for incompetence does not screw our
    democracy precisely because very likely the VP shares the same policy
    agenda.

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  • From El Castor@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Fri Sep 24 22:33:24 2021
    On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 17:16:47 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/24/2021 4:47 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 17:58:01 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 9/22/2021 4:12 PM, El Castor wrote:
    "Four House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against
    Biden"

    ''According to the Examiner, the first count says Mr. Biden “violated
    his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of president” >>>> by releasing “thousands of migrants who entered the United States
    illegally without a date to appear in court for immigration.”
    The second count says Mr. Biden overstepped presidential authority
    with his second eviction-moratorium order “despite the clear warning
    from the U.S. Supreme Court” and “with no legislative directive from
    the U.S. Congress.”
    The third article says Mr. Biden “failed to act responsibly as
    commander-in-chief with regard to the withdrawal of United States
    forces from Afghanistan.”"
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/21/joe-biden-articles-impeachment-introduced-four-hou/

    These are policy differences which are decided by elections, not
    impeachment.

    I'll give it to you on the eviction moratorium, but his failure to
    secure the border and pathetic screw-up in Afghanistan are in my
    opinion examples of unacceptable incompetence. Incompetence in the
    execution of his duties seems to me to be ample reason to remove him
    from office. That said ...

    * This is clearly just a political exercise and critique by
    Republicans of Biden's failure to adequately exercise the duties of
    his office --- with no hope of making it out of the House prior to the
    next mid-term.
    * If it did somehow succeed, Harris would be president, which would no
    doubt delight most Democrats.

    For those reasons my reaction to the whole thing is a big yawn.

    I'll give you that impeachment for incompetence does not screw our
    democracy precisely because very likely the VP shares the same policy
    agenda.

    Kamala was reputedly the most left wing member of the Senate. Her
    policy agenda would very likely be worse! Aieeeee!!

    "How liberal is she? Watchdog groups rate the Senate record of Kamala
    Harris"
    "Americans for Democratic Action, a liberal advocacy group that
    compiles ratings based on major votes, gave her perfect scores in 2017
    and 2018." https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article244908657.html

    "Ranked most politically left compared to All Senators" https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/kamala_harris/412678/report-card/2019

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