• Re: 'I have been in shock': Letters reveal financial distress after Cel

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    Recent court documents filed in the bankruptcy cases of Voyager
    Digital and Celsius Network reveal the financial ruin
    potentially facing customers of both companies.

    “The money that my wife and I were hoping to use for our young
    daughter’s education in the future is now locked up,” Niraj, a
    Voyager customer, wrote in a statement to Judge Michael Wiles.

    “I have been in shock since Voyager halted withdrawals. It is as
    if your bank is no longer allowing you to withdraw from your
    savings accounts. How would you feel? Would you not feel
    betrayed?,” he added.

    Niraj’s letter is one of more than a hundred filed to the court
    and made available to the public by judges in these cases, which
    includes revelations from users who have lost money or believe
    they were misled by each company.

    On June 12, Celsius told its customers it would freeze all
    withdrawals on its platform. Three weeks later fellow crypto
    lender Voyager did the same thing. In the first two weeks of
    July both crypto firms filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy

    The fate of each of the platforms’ customers is in the hands of
    the courts.

    “The thousands of us Voyager customers hope that you will
    carefully take our lives and livelihoods into consideration
    while presiding over this case,” wrote Jacoub Hammodeh, a
    customer who trusted Voyager with his holdings.

    Hammadoeh highlights the company “was publicly listed, implying
    responsible stewardship of my assets.” Hammadoeh points out the
    platform’s CEO, Stephen Ehrlich, was positioned as a veteran in
    the industry, and “Voyager claimed to have full FDIC protection
    on USD balances.”

    Last week, the Federal Reserve and FDIC issued a joint letter
    demanding Voyager cease and desist from making false statements
    regarding its FDIC insurance status.

    The customer admits he strongly considered withdrawing his
    crypto in early June, but was “reassured not to” by a Voyager
    press release which read: “The company is well capitalized and
    in a good position to weather this cycle and protect customer

    Using half her proceeds from the sale of a family business, Lisa
    Dagnoli, a mother of four, put over a million dollars in
    bitcoin, ether, and USDC on Voyager’s platform. Now, she’s
    outraged by the firm’s proposal to reimburse creditors in part
    with equity and tokens for a new company.

    “I take responsibility for investment and risk, but the Voyager
    leaders and Voyager Digital, LLC needs to take responsibility
    for giving us back what we are due, in full,” Dagnoli, wrote in
    a letter filed with the court.

    'The business is doing very well'
    Like other customers turned creditors of Celsius Network who
    have been interviewed by Yahoo Finance, a portion are calling
    for the removal of Celsius’ management given its statements
    leading up to June 12, when the company halted customer

    Celsius owes $4.7 billion to its customers and is facing a hole
    of $1.2 billion between reported assets and outstanding
    liabilities, its latest bankruptcy presentation showed. Earlier
    this month, the company floated repaying customers through its
    bitcoin mining subsidiary.

    Robert Cominos, a Celsius customer of about one year who
    “transferred about $250,000” onto its platform, claims in his
    letter that interviews give by the company’s co-founder and CEO,
    Alex Mashinsky, convinced him to make the move.

    “The business is doing very well,” Mashinsky told a reporter on
    April 13.

    “Celsius is a magnet for yield, a magnet for people who want to
    save and earn income,” Mashinsky told Yahoo Finance in June
    2021. “We just crossed 800,000 users and many, many of them live
    off that income.”

    In another Celsius letter, an investor who deposited 6 figures
    of their life savings with the platform cites a Celsius Medium
    post published on June 7 that attempted to rebuke its rumored
    financial problems. In its post, Celsius claimed “a handful of
    haters” were spreading misinformation about the company.

    “Celsius has the reserves (and more than enough ETH) to meet
    obligations, as dictated by our comprehensive liquidity risk
    management framework,” the company stated.

    Five days later Celsius, said it would halt all customer
    withdrawals on the platform. A month later, the company
    announced it had filed for bankruptcy.

    Not everything, but not nothing
    These personal stories are also “going to give the judges a
    sense that for many of these customers the impact of these
    bankruptcies are wide reaching and deeply affect their lives,”
    bankruptcy litigator Daniel Saval told Yahoo Finance.

    Whether and how these customers are made whole, however, is a
    difficult path to chart for customers right now, in Saval’s view.

    “I think it’s going to be a challenge,” said Saval. “The way
    these exchanges work, is that they typically pool the contents
    of customer accounts together. Meaning that they are not holding
    segregated accounts. As a result, in those circumstances, the
    likely result is that the property will be deemed to be owned by
    the bankruptcy estates, as opposed to being owned by the
    customers themselves.”

    In bankruptcy proceedings, secured creditors typically get first
    dibs at any money. Unsecured creditors are usually next on the
    list. But before any claimants receive their due, bankrupt firms
    must pay operational costs and legal fees through the bankruptcy

    “There is no blueprint under the bankruptcy code to decide what
    happens in these circumstances for the customers. This is all
    new,” said Saval.

    “If [the customers] are considered unsecured creditors, then in
    theory, they could get pooled with all other types of creditors.
    In theory they could all be grouped together,” explained Saval.

    Though both crypto lenders have proposed some form of a
    repayment plan, a distribution plan is far from decided in
    either case, according to Adam Levitin, a Professor at
    Georgetown School of Law and principal with financial advisory,
    Gordian Group.

    Whether distributions are paid out in crypto assets or fiat
    currencies depends first on if the companies liquidate their
    remaining crypto assets and second, on the distribution plan
    either case’s organized creditors committee agrees to by a
    majority vote.

    “I can say with almost absolute certainty that customers are not
    going to get nothing and they’re not going to be paid out in
    full,” Levitin told Yahoo Finance. He added that because either
    proceeding could “go on for years,” customers anticipating a
    payout will need to account for other factors, such as the
    crypto market’s volatility and inflation.

    Earlier this month, Voyager responded to a joint proposal by FTX
    and Alameda Research that pitched an offer to buy customer
    accounts. The offer argued it reduced the risk for customers
    holding unsecured claims with Voyager in return for FTX
    potentially acquiring those creditors as new customers.

    In its response, Voyager claimed the offer made “several false
    and misleading assertions” about its business. “It’s a low-ball
    bid dressed up as a white knight rescue,” the legal document

    Such a transaction could reduce the risk for customers holding
    unsecured claims over the length of a complex bankruptcy
    proceeding. But, as Levitin pointed out, it won’t change whether
    customers see a full reimbursement on their claims.

    'Curated B.S.'
    Letters from Celsius and Voyager customers show users pleading
    for their assets back, though they reflect a clear uncertainty
    about whether they’ll ever see that money again.

    “I now feel regretful for believing into (sic) their marketing
    strategy and potentially losing my family’s life savings,”
    Voyager customer Digant Goyal wrote in his letter to Judge Wiles.

    Goyal’s sentiment is echoed by Daniel James Howley who told the
    court, “a majority of my lifelong assets, accumulated through
    some ups and more downs as an entrepreneur, are locked on
    Voyager with no telling if, when and how much of them I will
    gain access to again.”

    “My savings to buy a home, build and support a family, and
    invest in my future, are all locked away in that account,” he

    Chapman Shallcross, a retired firefighter, held $244,000 in ETH
    and ADA on another crypto lender, BlockFi before moving assets
    to Celsius Network “based completely off of the overwhelming
    positive feedback,” he wrote in his letter. “And, now I find all
    that information I had gathered was curated B.S."

    For Amanda Gan, a Celsius customer, the company’s bankruptcy and
    the uncertainty surrounding her $167,000 in crypto assets has
    led to “significant distress,” according to her letter.

    “Losing this amount of our savings will have irreparable
    consequences for our family,” she relented.


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