• The COVID debate is over: New York was wrong, Florida was right

    From Johnny@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 12 08:31:51 2022
    By David Marcus
    Published April 12, 2022

    The numbers are in. As if there was much doubt about it, a new study
    has revealed that some of our nation’s bluest big states underperformed
    on COVID response compared to ruby red Florida and others. The number
    crunching which combined deaths, economic harm, and educational impact,
    was done by the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, and it's a doozy.

    At the very bottom of the list of states, to the surprise of absolutely
    nobody who was paying attention, are New York and New Jersey. The
    Empire State’s handsy disgraced and former governor Andrew Cuomo was
    heralded as the leader the world needed on COVID just two years ago.

    But according to the study his state, and others with widespread
    lockdowns "had high age-adjusted death rates, they had high
    unemployment and significant GDP losses, and they kept their schools
    shut down much longer than almost all other states."

    Meanwhile, as the nation continues to emerge from COVID, even in
    Democrat run cities, Dr. Anthony Fauci, of all people, is telling
    Americans it's time to assess their own personal risk of the virus. Dr.
    Fauci, a man so risk averse he wouldn’t place a bet on the sun rising
    in the East.

    While it's great that Fauci and other leaders are finally coming around
    to the idea of living with risk so as not to destroy the entire economy
    and children’s education, what the study makes clear is that this
    should have been our government’s attitude all along. It will not be
    easy for former proponents of strict lockdown to accept this data, but
    then again they were the ones insisting we "follow the science."

    The plain, obvious fact of the matter is that states like Florida which
    opened up as early as late April of 2020 never experienced the kind of
    death and destruction that detractors of Gov. Ron DeSantis warned of.
    It wasn’t "human sacrifice" as some in our COVID hysterical press put
    it. It was a calculated risk and it paid off.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/covid-lockdowns-mandates-new-york-florida-david-marcus

    Fauci was a fool that caused terrible damage to this country that will
    take years to recover from.

    It's now a fact you can't control the spread of a virus with lockdowns
    and paper masks.

    The Democrats took advantage of the virus by making it seem much worse
    than it really was. They used it to put another fool in office that is
    now doing more damage to this country.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Johnny on Tue Apr 12 07:51:46 2022
    On 4/12/2022 6:31 AM, Johnny wrote:

    By David Marcus
    Published April 12, 2022

    The numbers are in. As if there was much doubt about it, a new study
    has revealed that some of our nation’s bluest big states underperformed
    on COVID response compared to ruby red Florida and others. The number crunching which combined deaths, economic harm, and educational impact,
    was done by the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, and it's a doozy.

    At the very bottom of the list of states, to the surprise of absolutely nobody who was paying attention, are New York and New Jersey. The
    Empire State’s handsy disgraced and former governor Andrew Cuomo was heralded as the leader the world needed on COVID just two years ago.

    But according to the study his state, and others with widespread
    lockdowns "had high age-adjusted death rates, they had high
    unemployment and significant GDP losses, and they kept their schools
    shut down much longer than almost all other states."

    Meanwhile, as the nation continues to emerge from COVID, even in
    Democrat run cities, Dr. Anthony Fauci, of all people, is telling
    Americans it's time to assess their own personal risk of the virus. Dr. Fauci, a man so risk averse he wouldn’t place a bet on the sun rising
    in the East.

    While it's great that Fauci and other leaders are finally coming around
    to the idea of living with risk so as not to destroy the entire economy
    and children’s education, what the study makes clear is that this
    should have been our government’s attitude all along. It will not be
    easy for former proponents of strict lockdown to accept this data, but
    then again they were the ones insisting we "follow the science."

    The plain, obvious fact of the matter is that states like Florida which opened up as early as late April of 2020 never experienced the kind of
    death and destruction that detractors of Gov. Ron DeSantis warned of.
    It wasn’t "human sacrifice" as some in our COVID hysterical press put
    it. It was a calculated risk and it paid off.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/covid-lockdowns-mandates-new-york-florida-david-marcus

    Fauci was a fool that caused terrible damage to this country that will
    take years to recover from.

    It's now a fact you can't control the spread of a virus with lockdowns
    and paper masks.

    The Democrats took advantage of the virus by making it seem much worse
    than it really was. They used it to put another fool in office that is
    now doing more damage to this country.

    What a joke of a headline (the debate continues). The conclusion comes
    from a paper issued by the Committee to Unleash Prosperity and written
    by its co-founder Stephen Moore, a partisan biased zealot. The paper has
    not been peer reviewed. It does not pass the laugh test that lockdowns
    would be ineffective prior to a vaccine.

    And based on this article written by Moore
    (https://tinyurl.com/ycxstc5v), it's easy to see the paper's methodology
    is flawed. He does nothing more than compare the ranks of states in
    mortality rate without considering any other factors like age,
    population density and weather.

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  • From El Castor@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Tue Apr 12 14:58:50 2022
    On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 07:51:46 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 4/12/2022 6:31 AM, Johnny wrote:

    By David Marcus
    Published April 12, 2022

    The numbers are in. As if there was much doubt about it, a new study
    has revealed that some of our nations bluest big states underperformed
    on COVID response compared to ruby red Florida and others. The number
    crunching which combined deaths, economic harm, and educational impact,
    was done by the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, and it's a doozy.

    At the very bottom of the list of states, to the surprise of absolutely
    nobody who was paying attention, are New York and New Jersey. The
    Empire States handsy disgraced and former governor Andrew Cuomo was
    heralded as the leader the world needed on COVID just two years ago.

    But according to the study his state, and others with widespread
    lockdowns "had high age-adjusted death rates, they had high
    unemployment and significant GDP losses, and they kept their schools
    shut down much longer than almost all other states."

    Meanwhile, as the nation continues to emerge from COVID, even in
    Democrat run cities, Dr. Anthony Fauci, of all people, is telling
    Americans it's time to assess their own personal risk of the virus. Dr.
    Fauci, a man so risk averse he wouldnt place a bet on the sun rising
    in the East.

    While it's great that Fauci and other leaders are finally coming around
    to the idea of living with risk so as not to destroy the entire economy
    and childrens education, what the study makes clear is that this
    should have been our governments attitude all along. It will not be
    easy for former proponents of strict lockdown to accept this data, but
    then again they were the ones insisting we "follow the science."

    The plain, obvious fact of the matter is that states like Florida which
    opened up as early as late April of 2020 never experienced the kind of
    death and destruction that detractors of Gov. Ron DeSantis warned of.
    It wasnt "human sacrifice" as some in our COVID hysterical press put
    it. It was a calculated risk and it paid off.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/covid-lockdowns-mandates-new-york-florida-david-marcus

    Fauci was a fool that caused terrible damage to this country that will
    take years to recover from.

    It's now a fact you can't control the spread of a virus with lockdowns
    and paper masks.

    The Democrats took advantage of the virus by making it seem much worse
    than it really was. They used it to put another fool in office that is
    now doing more damage to this country.

    What a joke of a headline (the debate continues). The conclusion comes
    from a paper issued by the Committee to Unleash Prosperity and written
    by its co-founder Stephen Moore, a partisan biased zealot. The paper has
    not been peer reviewed. It does not pass the laugh test that lockdowns
    would be ineffective prior to a vaccine.

    And based on this article written by Moore
    (https://tinyurl.com/ycxstc5v), it's easy to see the paper's methodology
    is flawed. He does nothing more than compare the ranks of states in
    mortality rate without considering any other factors like age,
    population density and weather.

    Thanks for reminding me why I have Johnny plonked. BTW -- I like
    Fauci. He may not be right 100% of the time, but who is? Seems to me
    to be an intelligent man, sincere in his beliefs.

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