• Biden admin endorses sex-change surgery, hormone therapy for children

    From Johnny@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 31 14:03:17 2022
    WH encourages gender reassignment surgery, puberty blockers, hormone
    therapy for transgender minors

    By Timothy H.J. Nerozzi
    Published March 31, 2022

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-administration-transgender-agenda-youth-sex-change-hormone-therapy

    This is insanity.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Johnny on Thu Mar 31 17:25:25 2022
    On 3/31/2022 12:03 PM, Johnny wrote:

    WH encourages gender reassignment surgery, puberty blockers, hormone
    therapy for transgender minors

    By Timothy H.J. Nerozzi
    Published March 31, 2022

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-administration-transgender-agenda-youth-sex-change-hormone-therapy

    This is insanity.

    From the HHS document referenced in the article (https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf):
    reassignment surgery is "Typically used in adulthood or case-by-case in adolescence."

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  • From El Castor@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Thu Mar 31 22:54:55 2022
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 17:25:25 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/31/2022 12:03 PM, Johnny wrote:

    WH encourages gender reassignment surgery, puberty blockers, hormone
    therapy for transgender minors

    By Timothy H.J. Nerozzi
    Published March 31, 2022

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-administration-transgender-agenda-youth-sex-change-hormone-therapy

    This is insanity.

    From the HHS document referenced in the article
    (https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf):
    reassignment surgery is "Typically used in adulthood or case-by-case in >adolescence."

    As you probably know I gave up on Johnny some time ago and plonked
    him, but he does raise an interesting issue. IMHO, the Left, guided by
    its usual mindless emotion has done it again. Your case by case quote
    in this context is meaningless, since it is fair to say that ALL sex
    change operations are performed on a case by case basis. The idea that
    a child who has not passed through puberty could or should make such a
    life altering decision is absurd. Furthermore, are we to assume that
    the child even makes the decision? Perhaps his or her warped parents
    make the decision without the full understanding of the child? Yikes!
    Even adults often regret a sex change operation. How could we possibly
    expect a child to make such a life altering choice without a full
    understanding of what they were doing?

    In any event, the bottom line is that Democrats are just digging their political grave that much deeper.

    March 21 Rasmussen poll: Direction of Country...
    Right Direction 29%
    Wrong Track 65%
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/#!

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to El Castor on Fri Apr 1 09:12:52 2022
    On 3/31/2022 10:54 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 17:25:25 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/31/2022 12:03 PM, Johnny wrote:

    WH encourages gender reassignment surgery, puberty blockers, hormone
    therapy for transgender minors

    By Timothy H.J. Nerozzi
    Published March 31, 2022

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-administration-transgender-agenda-youth-sex-change-hormone-therapy

    This is insanity.

    From the HHS document referenced in the article
    (https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf):
    reassignment surgery is "Typically used in adulthood or case-by-case in
    adolescence."

    As you probably know I gave up on Johnny some time ago and plonked
    him, but he does raise an interesting issue. IMHO, the Left, guided by
    its usual mindless emotion has done it again. Your case by case quote
    in this context is meaningless, since it is fair to say that ALL sex
    change operations are performed on a case by case basis. The idea that
    a child who has not passed through puberty could or should make such a
    life altering decision is absurd. Furthermore, are we to assume that
    the child even makes the decision? Perhaps his or her warped parents
    make the decision without the full understanding of the child? Yikes!
    Even adults often regret a sex change operation. How could we possibly
    expect a child to make such a life altering choice without a full understanding of what they were doing?

    I don't think adolescence refers to before puberty in this context. It's
    almost certainly someone who is 16-17.

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  • From El Castor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 1 11:46:41 2022
    On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:12:52 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/31/2022 10:54 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 17:25:25 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/31/2022 12:03 PM, Johnny wrote:

    WH encourages gender reassignment surgery, puberty blockers, hormone
    therapy for transgender minors

    By Timothy H.J. Nerozzi
    Published March 31, 2022

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-administration-transgender-agenda-youth-sex-change-hormone-therapy

    This is insanity.

    From the HHS document referenced in the article
    (https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf):
    reassignment surgery is "Typically used in adulthood or case-by-case in
    adolescence."

    As you probably know I gave up on Johnny some time ago and plonked
    him, but he does raise an interesting issue. IMHO, the Left, guided by
    its usual mindless emotion has done it again. Your case by case quote
    in this context is meaningless, since it is fair to say that ALL sex
    change operations are performed on a case by case basis. The idea that
    a child who has not passed through puberty could or should make such a
    life altering decision is absurd. Furthermore, are we to assume that
    the child even makes the decision? Perhaps his or her warped parents
    make the decision without the full understanding of the child? Yikes!
    Even adults often regret a sex change operation. How could we possibly
    expect a child to make such a life altering choice without a full
    understanding of what they were doing?

    I don't think adolescence refers to before puberty in this context. It's >almost certainly someone who is 16-17.

    I realize "16 or 17" is what you would like it to mean, but clearly
    that is not what it actually means.

    The word adolescent has a broad ill defined meaning. In the words of
    Merriam Webster ...
    "Synonyms: Adjective
    immature, juvenile, young, youngish, youthful" https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/adolescent#synonyms

    And in the words of the Biden Office of Public Affairs please note the
    repeated use of the words "child" and "children" as well as the
    phrases "child or adolescent" and "children and adolescents"...

    "For transgender and nonbinary children and adolescents, early gender- affirming care is crucial to overall health and well-being as it
    allows the child or adolescent to focus on social transitions and can
    increase their confidence while navigating the healthcare system." https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf

    "Almost certainly 16 or 17"? Sorry, but clearly not. I believe the law
    is intentionally vague to give parents and doctors "almost" unlimited
    latitude.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to El Castor on Fri Apr 1 12:48:40 2022
    On 4/1/2022 11:46 AM, El Castor wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:12:52 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/31/2022 10:54 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 17:25:25 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/31/2022 12:03 PM, Johnny wrote:

    WH encourages gender reassignment surgery, puberty blockers, hormone >>>>> therapy for transgender minors

    By Timothy H.J. Nerozzi
    Published March 31, 2022

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-administration-transgender-agenda-youth-sex-change-hormone-therapy

    This is insanity.

    From the HHS document referenced in the article
    (https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf):
    reassignment surgery is "Typically used in adulthood or case-by-case in >>>> adolescence."

    As you probably know I gave up on Johnny some time ago and plonked
    him, but he does raise an interesting issue. IMHO, the Left, guided by
    its usual mindless emotion has done it again. Your case by case quote
    in this context is meaningless, since it is fair to say that ALL sex
    change operations are performed on a case by case basis. The idea that
    a child who has not passed through puberty could or should make such a
    life altering decision is absurd. Furthermore, are we to assume that
    the child even makes the decision? Perhaps his or her warped parents
    make the decision without the full understanding of the child? Yikes!
    Even adults often regret a sex change operation. How could we possibly
    expect a child to make such a life altering choice without a full
    understanding of what they were doing?

    I don't think adolescence refers to before puberty in this context. It's
    almost certainly someone who is 16-17.

    I realize "16 or 17" is what you would like it to mean, but clearly
    that is not what it actually means.

    The word adolescent has a broad ill defined meaning. In the words of
    Merriam Webster ...
    "Synonyms: Adjective
    immature, juvenile, young, youngish, youthful" https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/adolescent#synonyms

    And in the words of the Biden Office of Public Affairs please note the repeated use of the words "child" and "children" as well as the
    phrases "child or adolescent" and "children and adolescents"...

    "For transgender and nonbinary children and adolescents, early gender- affirming care is crucial to overall health and well-being as it
    allows the child or adolescent to focus on social transitions and can increase their confidence while navigating the healthcare system." https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf

    "Almost certainly 16 or 17"? Sorry, but clearly not. I believe the law
    is intentionally vague to give parents and doctors "almost" unlimited latitude.

    There is no law. It's a bully-pulpit policy. Of course gender-affirming
    care short of surgery is something Biden supports for much younger than
    16-17. And, he also supports surgery when the parents and doctors all
    agree it is the right thing to do. And I strongly suspect such cases are
    very rare for those less than 16.

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  • From El Castor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 1 14:33:32 2022
    On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 12:48:40 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 4/1/2022 11:46 AM, El Castor wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:12:52 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/31/2022 10:54 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 17:25:25 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/31/2022 12:03 PM, Johnny wrote:

    WH encourages gender reassignment surgery, puberty blockers, hormone >>>>>> therapy for transgender minors

    By Timothy H.J. Nerozzi
    Published March 31, 2022

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-administration-transgender-agenda-youth-sex-change-hormone-therapy

    This is insanity.

    From the HHS document referenced in the article
    (https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf):
    reassignment surgery is "Typically used in adulthood or case-by-case in >>>>> adolescence."

    As you probably know I gave up on Johnny some time ago and plonked
    him, but he does raise an interesting issue. IMHO, the Left, guided by >>>> its usual mindless emotion has done it again. Your case by case quote
    in this context is meaningless, since it is fair to say that ALL sex
    change operations are performed on a case by case basis. The idea that >>>> a child who has not passed through puberty could or should make such a >>>> life altering decision is absurd. Furthermore, are we to assume that
    the child even makes the decision? Perhaps his or her warped parents
    make the decision without the full understanding of the child? Yikes!
    Even adults often regret a sex change operation. How could we possibly >>>> expect a child to make such a life altering choice without a full
    understanding of what they were doing?

    I don't think adolescence refers to before puberty in this context. It's >>> almost certainly someone who is 16-17.

    I realize "16 or 17" is what you would like it to mean, but clearly
    that is not what it actually means.

    The word adolescent has a broad ill defined meaning. In the words of
    Merriam Webster ...
    "Synonyms: Adjective
    immature, juvenile, young, youngish, youthful"
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/adolescent#synonyms

    And in the words of the Biden Office of Public Affairs please note the
    repeated use of the words "child" and "children" as well as the
    phrases "child or adolescent" and "children and adolescents"...

    "For transgender and nonbinary children and adolescents, early gender-
    affirming care is crucial to overall health and well-being as it
    allows the child or adolescent to focus on social transitions and can
    increase their confidence while navigating the healthcare system."
    https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf

    "Almost certainly 16 or 17"? Sorry, but clearly not. I believe the law
    is intentionally vague to give parents and doctors "almost" unlimited
    latitude.

    There is no law. It's a bully-pulpit policy. Of course gender-affirming
    care short of surgery is something Biden supports for much younger than >16-17. And, he also supports surgery when the parents and doctors all
    agree it is the right thing to do. And I strongly suspect such cases are
    very rare for those less than 16.

    Oh well, in a few months we will see what voters think of Biden's
    "policies". BTW, it is beginning to look like Pence will be running
    for president. I would certainly prefer him to Trump.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to El Castor on Fri Apr 1 17:44:37 2022
    On 4/1/2022 2:33 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 12:48:40 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 4/1/2022 11:46 AM, El Castor wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:12:52 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/31/2022 10:54 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 17:25:25 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/31/2022 12:03 PM, Johnny wrote:

    WH encourages gender reassignment surgery, puberty blockers, hormone >>>>>>> therapy for transgender minors

    By Timothy H.J. Nerozzi
    Published March 31, 2022

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-administration-transgender-agenda-youth-sex-change-hormone-therapy

    This is insanity.

    From the HHS document referenced in the article
    (https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf):
    reassignment surgery is "Typically used in adulthood or case-by-case in >>>>>> adolescence."

    As you probably know I gave up on Johnny some time ago and plonked
    him, but he does raise an interesting issue. IMHO, the Left, guided by >>>>> its usual mindless emotion has done it again. Your case by case quote >>>>> in this context is meaningless, since it is fair to say that ALL sex >>>>> change operations are performed on a case by case basis. The idea that >>>>> a child who has not passed through puberty could or should make such a >>>>> life altering decision is absurd. Furthermore, are we to assume that >>>>> the child even makes the decision? Perhaps his or her warped parents >>>>> make the decision without the full understanding of the child? Yikes! >>>>> Even adults often regret a sex change operation. How could we possibly >>>>> expect a child to make such a life altering choice without a full
    understanding of what they were doing?

    I don't think adolescence refers to before puberty in this context. It's >>>> almost certainly someone who is 16-17.

    I realize "16 or 17" is what you would like it to mean, but clearly
    that is not what it actually means.

    The word adolescent has a broad ill defined meaning. In the words of
    Merriam Webster ...
    "Synonyms: Adjective
    immature, juvenile, young, youngish, youthful"
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/adolescent#synonyms

    And in the words of the Biden Office of Public Affairs please note the
    repeated use of the words "child" and "children" as well as the
    phrases "child or adolescent" and "children and adolescents"...

    "For transgender and nonbinary children and adolescents, early gender-
    affirming care is crucial to overall health and well-being as it
    allows the child or adolescent to focus on social transitions and can
    increase their confidence while navigating the healthcare system."
    https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf

    "Almost certainly 16 or 17"? Sorry, but clearly not. I believe the law
    is intentionally vague to give parents and doctors "almost" unlimited
    latitude.

    There is no law. It's a bully-pulpit policy. Of course gender-affirming
    care short of surgery is something Biden supports for much younger than
    16-17. And, he also supports surgery when the parents and doctors all
    agree it is the right thing to do. And I strongly suspect such cases are
    very rare for those less than 16.

    Oh well, in a few months we will see what voters think of Biden's
    "policies". BTW, it is beginning to look like Pence will be running
    for president. I would certainly prefer him to Trump.

    The Democrats have little chance of keeping the House and likely less
    than 50-50 for keeping the Senate. Pence has no chance to win the
    nomination.

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  • From El Castor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 1 22:09:20 2022
    On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 17:44:37 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 4/1/2022 2:33 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 12:48:40 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 4/1/2022 11:46 AM, El Castor wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:12:52 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> >>>> wrote:

    On 3/31/2022 10:54 PM, El Castor wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 17:25:25 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/31/2022 12:03 PM, Johnny wrote:

    WH encourages gender reassignment surgery, puberty blockers, hormone >>>>>>>> therapy for transgender minors

    By Timothy H.J. Nerozzi
    Published March 31, 2022

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-administration-transgender-agenda-youth-sex-change-hormone-therapy

    This is insanity.

    From the HHS document referenced in the article
    (https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf):
    reassignment surgery is "Typically used in adulthood or case-by-case in >>>>>>> adolescence."

    As you probably know I gave up on Johnny some time ago and plonked >>>>>> him, but he does raise an interesting issue. IMHO, the Left, guided by >>>>>> its usual mindless emotion has done it again. Your case by case quote >>>>>> in this context is meaningless, since it is fair to say that ALL sex >>>>>> change operations are performed on a case by case basis. The idea that >>>>>> a child who has not passed through puberty could or should make such a >>>>>> life altering decision is absurd. Furthermore, are we to assume that >>>>>> the child even makes the decision? Perhaps his or her warped parents >>>>>> make the decision without the full understanding of the child? Yikes! >>>>>> Even adults often regret a sex change operation. How could we possibly >>>>>> expect a child to make such a life altering choice without a full
    understanding of what they were doing?

    I don't think adolescence refers to before puberty in this context. It's >>>>> almost certainly someone who is 16-17.

    I realize "16 or 17" is what you would like it to mean, but clearly
    that is not what it actually means.

    The word adolescent has a broad ill defined meaning. In the words of
    Merriam Webster ...
    "Synonyms: Adjective
    immature, juvenile, young, youngish, youthful"
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/adolescent#synonyms

    And in the words of the Biden Office of Public Affairs please note the >>>> repeated use of the words "child" and "children" as well as the
    phrases "child or adolescent" and "children and adolescents"...

    "For transgender and nonbinary children and adolescents, early gender- >>>> affirming care is crucial to overall health and well-being as it
    allows the child or adolescent to focus on social transitions and can
    increase their confidence while navigating the healthcare system."
    https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-03/gender-affirming-care-young-people-march-2022.pdf

    "Almost certainly 16 or 17"? Sorry, but clearly not. I believe the law >>>> is intentionally vague to give parents and doctors "almost" unlimited
    latitude.

    There is no law. It's a bully-pulpit policy. Of course gender-affirming
    care short of surgery is something Biden supports for much younger than
    16-17. And, he also supports surgery when the parents and doctors all
    agree it is the right thing to do. And I strongly suspect such cases are >>> very rare for those less than 16.

    Oh well, in a few months we will see what voters think of Biden's
    "policies". BTW, it is beginning to look like Pence will be running
    for president. I would certainly prefer him to Trump.

    The Democrats have little chance of keeping the House and likely less
    than 50-50 for keeping the Senate. Pence has no chance to win the
    nomination.

    I hope it's not Trump. I liked his policies, but the failed coup -- oh
    my. As you probably know, Pence and Trump are no longer on speaking
    terms. If in the end Trump runs I will probably abstain, although I
    can't imagine 4 more years of Biden and his handlers on the far left.

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