• LaRouche Exposed on Satanism

    From kjc.joiner@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Blackwood on Tue Jul 9 11:49:48 2019
    On Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:05:54 UTC+1, Blackwood wrote:
    Grand Magister Blackwood Debunks Lyndon LaRouche's Ideas on Satanism: Exposing Satanism

    By Lyndon LaRouche

    Anglo-American Satanists
    The best-organized Satanist forces operating presently inside the
    United States include the following prominent organizations:
    This is the leading, putatively respectable Britain-based Satan cult
    (it worships Lucifer). The Lucis Trust, which runs the only religious
    chapel at the New York United Nations headquarters, The Temple of Understanding, was originaly founded as the Lucifer Trust, in London,
    in 1923. The Lucis Trust associated with the UNO is the New York
    affiliate of the British organization. The name was changed from
    Lucifer Trust, to Lucis Trust, to make the nature of the organization
    less conspicuous.
    The Lucis Trust's leading sponsors include the following prominent
    Henry Clausen, Supreme Grand Commander of the Supreme Council, 33rd
    Degree, Southern District Scottish Rite Freemasons Norman Cousins John
    D. Rockefeller IV The Rockefeller Foundation The Marshall Field family
    Robert McNamara Thomas Watson (IBM, former US Ambassador to Moscow)
    The United Lodge of Theosophists of New York City U. Alexis Johnson,
    former Undersecretary of State Rabbi Marc Tannenbaum, American Jewish Committee
    Prominent front-organizations sponsored by the Lucis Trust, include
    the following:
    The Theosophical Order of Service (founded by Annie Besant in1908) The Theosophical Society (founded by Helena P. Blavatsky in 1875) The
    United Nations Association The World Wildlife Fund UK The Findhorn
    Foundation Greenpeace International Greenpeace USA Amnesty
    International The Nicholas Roerich Society (chief connection to
    Russian mysticism, spirituality) The Anthroposophs of Rudolf Steiner
    The Rudolf Steiner School [these could not be genuine followers of
    Steiner] UNESCO UNICEF The American Friends Service Committee .
    Grand Magister Blackwood: The realm of Satanism is full of numerous
    rumors similar to those of the political landscape, and conspiracy
    theories are everywhere, I however after extensive study have seen no concrete evidence of the existence of this group.
    I have traveled coast to coast in the United States and found no
    membership or meetings of said organization, this appears to be made
    up by Mr. LaRouche.
    Satanic Organizations exist beyond investigation however I have
    personally met almost every type of Satanist and as Satanic Leader
    dedicated and devoted to Satan certainly this organziation would have appeared on Satanic Radar!

    This is today's best-known of the hard-core, British-based Satanist
    cults. Like the Lucis Trust, the OTO is a direct off-shoot of the work
    of Britain's leading twentieth-century Satanist, Theosophy leader
    Aliester Crowley. OTO enthusiasts claim this organization is an
    offshoot of Templar freemasonry, and hint at very influential
    protection from among Templars very high in British freemasonry.
    The WICCA cult came to the surface early during the post-war period,
    as a legalized association for the promotion of witchcraft. It is the
    leading publicly known international association of witches in the
    world today.
    In the United States, WICCA's outstanding sponsor is the New York
    Anglican (Episcopal) diocese, under Bishop Paul Moore. Officially, New
    York's Anglican Cathedral of St. John the Divine has promoted the
    spread of WICCA witchery through its Lindisfarne center. The late
    Gregory Bateson conducted such an operation out of the Lindisfarne
    center during the 1970s.
    No later than the 1970s, and perhaps still today, the crypt of the
    Cathedral of St. John the Divine, is the headquarters for solemn
    ceremonies of the British (Venerable) Order of Malta. Key figures,
    such as Gregory Bateson's former spouse, Dame Margaret Mead,
    associated with that British order, have been associated with projects
    in support of the Satanist "Age of Aquarius" cause.
    For obvious reasons, U.S. witches have chosen Salem, Massachusetts, as
    their national center. One of the most important operations of these
    witches is their coordination of the hardcore of U.S. astrology
    Grand Magister Blackwood: The foundation of Wicca came from Gerald
    Gardner, regardless of what is foretold about it Elizabethan or Green
    or White is merely contrived in the minds of the practitioners and
    often is offered to those who refuse to grasp the darkness of Wicca,
    from its Gardernarian Roots.
    Most witchcraft that had been preformed prior to Gardner was simply Witchcraft.
    The "Age of Aquarius," or "New Age," is the generic name adopted by
    the modern Satanist movement. The best-publicized among the founders
    of the Age of Aquarius movement include Fyodor Dostoevsky, Friedrich Nietzsche, Alex Muenthe (of Capri notoriety), and Aleister Crowley.
    Most Aquarians trace the origins of modern Satanism to Nietzsche and
    Anti-Christ cultist Nietzsche announced that the twentieth century
    would see the end of the Age of Pisces, which Aquarians associate with
    the figures of Socrates and Christ; Nietzsche prophesied that the New
    Age would be the Age of Aquarius, which he identified with the Satanic
    figure Dionysos. Crowley announced himself publicly a devotee of
    Nietzsche's New Age cult in his Vienna Theosophy magazine, near the
    beginning of this century, and indicated as his preferred choice of
    name for Satan.
    Among hard-core insiders, the New Age models its dogma on the Magis'
    cult of Mithra, as Nietzsche did. The cult has notable affinities to
    the Bulgarian-Cathar Bogomil cult(from which the slang term "buggery"
    is derived). The New Age's most celebrated historical figure, its
    choice for the original "incarnation" of the Anti-Christ, is the Roman Emperor Tiberius who ordered the execution of Christ. [Some Roman
    emperors, most notably Caligula, became possessed by being initiated
    without being suitably prepared.] Adolf Hitler and Hermann Goering
    were among the notable figures who followed this cult.
    The best-known coordinating-center for the Age of Aquarius project in
    the U.S.A. today is Palo Alto, California's Stanford Ressearch
    Institute, whose Willis Harman is the relevant leading personality.
    See Harman disciple Marilyn Feruguson's 1980 Aquarian Conspiracy for a popular exposition of Harman's views and program for subversion of the
    United States. Ferguson is accurate when she reports that the Fabian Society's H.G. Wells (World War I boss of British intelligence) is a
    key figure of the Aquarian Conspiracy. Also key are Wells' ally,
    Bertrand Russell, and such Russell cronies as Robert M. Hutchins
    (Chicago University, Ford Foundation, Fund for the Republic, Aspen
    Institute, and the project).
    Both Margaret Mead and her husband Gregory Bateson were close
    collaborators of Russell and Hutchins from no later than 1938. The
    brothers, Aldous (Hollywood) and Julian (UNO) Huxley were
    collaborators of H. G. Wells, and were recruited to Crowley's Satanist
    cult during the late 1920s.
    Grand Magister Blackwood: The Age of Aquarius was a movement in the
    sixties and perhaps Anton La Vey came from it, there again is no
    concrete evidence that
    and authors and or celebrities other than a few artists ever grasp
    Satanism, and the turbulent times were filled with Free Love and Free
    Sex, however I have yet to see any proof that H.G. Wells had a Satanic Connection.
    Thelema isn't Satanism, and as Crowley did diabolical thinks and spook
    of Lucifer he was an adept who practiced from many paths to form his
    very own.
    The contributions of Crowley to magic is unquestionable.
    Since the launching of the Beatles as an international project via TV
    in 1963, "rock" has been the most influential recruiter to Satanism.
    Rock was created, and is still coordinated by Crowley's followers and
    by the OTO network, in cooperation with WICCA. It is, not so
    incidentally, also the Satanist's biggest money-maker, and believed to provide the chief logistical support for deployments and other
    activities of the OTO-WICCA efforts world-wide.
    There is nothing spontaneous or accidental about "rock." It is a
    product of classical studies of the ancient Phrygian terrorist cult of Satan-Dionysos, the model for the Roman Bacchic cults of similar characteristics. Crowley's control of the "rock industry" has been
    documented by a team of [private] investigators, who have also noted,
    that in addition to the Satanist lyrics, Satanist messages embedded sub-limally in rock recordings are a key feature of this subversive operation.
    The "rock rythm" itself is copied from the old Dionysian-Bacchic
    cults. Even without the drugs and sexual orgies which are
    characteristic features of hard-core rock affairs, repeated,frequent, hours-long exposure to constant repetition of "rock rythms" produces
    lasting, drug-like effects on the mind of the victim. Reducing sexual practices to the level of bestiality,is a crucial feature of Satanism
    in all historical periods studied, from Phrygian Cybele-Dionysos cult-
    period onward.
    From western continental Europe, among the threats to the U.S. from
    this quarter, the two leading open centers for hard-core Satanism
    today, are Turin, Italy (where actress Elizabeth Taylor's "Live AIDS"
    project attempted to sponsor an aborted Satan-rock festival), and
    Lausanne, Switzerland.
    Grand Magister Blackwood: The idea that “Satanic Lyrics” come from
    music played backwards has been debunked for years, and even the band
    Led Zepplin has denied such allegations, even if they were hiding it,
    would it not be assumed that Satanic Death Metal would hold the key to
    lyrics being overwritten subliminally.
    There have been bands and are bands connected to Satanism, the Temples
    of Satan has several affiliated, however being with several bands at recording I found them never participating in subliminally adding
    background music to records or background words.
    I can say this to the best of my knowledge has never occurred.
    The Satanist Mind
    Satanists already have numerous victims. Most of the sexual and
    related atrocities perpetrated upon "disappeared" infants and other
    children, are done as part of the rituals outlined in manuals of
    Satanist organizations. A leading police association has received
    expert estimate, that of all known murders, one in five is a ritual
    murder, like the ritual London assassination of Italy's Roberto Calvi, perpetrated by members of Satanist cults. The "Son of Sam" murders in
    New York, and the Cobb County-based cult operations in the so-called
    "Atlanta child-murders," fit into this pattern.
    Satanism is not "just another nutty occult fad." The mind of the
    Satanist is pure evil; the Satanist is a former person who has been transformed into something no longer human. It begins like drug-
    addiction; the prospective recruit to Satanism "gets into something"
    on a playful impulse, but then finds himself or herself gripped by compulsions which he or she can no longer control. Drugs and other
    special circumstances may be significant collateral features of the initiation, but not necessarily. The key is "letting oneself go," into
    the depths of acting-out impulses which combine sexual impulses and
    rage as a unity, and expressing this form of "pleasure" in the form of
    an act which violates an important precept of one's own conscience.
    Grand Magister Blackwood: This is a rather assumptive article on
    Satanist's, I in most recent times the last ten years have not
    indulged in drug abuse and my relationship with Satan has been
    enhanced, I have met many like myself that are business owners, and
    hold professional and blue collar jobs, and barely drink.
    As well as “Sex Addicts” (like myself) I have met virgins and those
    who have few relationship skills, along with several dying people
    still dedicated to the practice and worship of Satan.
    Nietzsche's writings, especially toward the last period of life
    preceding his mental breakdown, address these special sorts of
    emotions, and refer implicitly to terrible obscene acts as the
    prospective fulfilment of such impulses. Nietzsche recognized these
    impulses as Satanic --dionysiac-- in quality. [Dionysian activity, or
    wild abandon, by itself leads to non-demonic possession. Becoming demoniacally possessed requires killing, torturing, or tormenting
    someone with a neutral or positive attitude.]
    Nietzsche's ideology is simply advanced humanism, in its easiest to
    practice form, as it was plagiarized, from Frances Bacon, and
    Swedenborg or even Machiavelli, to later be regurgitated by followers
    of the Master Plagiarist Anton La Vey.
    The concept of strength through individuality is survival of the
    fittest in the raw and Satan did not discover or promote it he just
    allows it to thrive.
    Ordinarily we think of the criminal mind as representing a person
    whose goals are based on "normal human impulses," but whose choice of
    means is immoral. Doing something illegal is not necessarily immoral;
    the useful definition of the criminal mind, is the person inclined to
    prefer immoral means as short-cuts to some goal usually not
    inconsistent with normal human impulses. In the case of the Satanist,
    we touch upon something way beyond such a mere criminal mind.
    Imagine a criminal mind which has undergone a curious transformation. Perhaps, formerly, this fellow was an habitual thief, even of that
    sort of twisted mind which delighted in occasions he might have
    imagined he had pretext to exert the power of life or death over some
    chance victim on the scene of his crime. Yet, up to that point,
    robbery or kindred results were always the prompting of his criminal activity.
    Now, he has changed. Crime is no longer motivated by the impulse to
    employ cruel means for personal gain. Instead, the pleasure of the
    sense of power realized in employing viciously cruel means, becomes an
    end in itself. This form of criminal pleasure becomes a blend of rage
    and sexuality. Jaded appetites create the mental state in that man,
    that he must do something more monstrous than he has done before, to
    realize the desired level of orgiastic pleasure from the evil deed.
    Evil for the purpose of doing evil, has become for him, a goal in and
    of itself. This man has become a beast, a virtual Satanist.
    Grand Magister Blackwood:
    This action could more easily occur in a Modern Satanist's life, I
    however have found those dedicated to Satan a-bite a few criminals
    such as Ramirez or Son of Sam, those who are dedicated to Satan, tend
    to be highly conservative and highly intelligent.
    That is the state of mind which Satanism seeks to develop in its
    initiates. It might begin with an ordinary sexual act performed under
    the influence of an ugly state of mind. Soon, something much more
    degraded becomes a need for the prospective initiates rapidly jaded appetites. In contrast to the healthy mind, which seeks always to
    become better in what is being mastered, for the initiate to Satanism,
    a sense of need develops, to seek to muster oneself to do something
    much worse than one has ever done before. Satanic cults organize that degraded process of self-degeneration. The potential for endemic
    incidence of individual bestiality within society, is transformed into
    an organized,institutionalized form of social behavior.
    Grand Magister Blackwood:
    Satanism, being destructive by organization, sounds a little bit like
    a “Christian Fear Machine!” did I hear a motor running Mr. LaRouche?
    The tradition of the "Black Mass," points to the mechanisms of
    Satanism as such. Nietzsche's instruction is much to the point.
    Perform some really monstrous act of blasphemy, and associate that blasphemous doing with some sort of degraded,orgiastic pleasure.
    Go back to ancient Mesopotamia, whence Satanism was transmitted to
    western Europe. The relevant figure of Satanism is not a male, but a
    female figure.
    The male figure --Satan, Baal, Lucifer, and so on--is a subordinate
    figure; the female principle of evil is pre-dominant. Hence, Satan's
    mother, the "Whore of Babylon,"known otherwise as the Chaldean Ishtar,
    the Caananite Astarte,Isis, Venus, or the Phrygian Cybele.
    The ritual of the priestesses of Ishtar was an obscene "religious
    service" which concluded with the priestesses' fornicating with the congregation. Hence, "Whore of Babylon," and the associated position
    of Ishtar, Athtar, Astarte, Isis, and Venus as the patron goddess of prostitution.
    Grand Magister Blackwood: Perhaps the writer should have read Kramer,
    and not the controversial writer that suggests mythology and space
    aliens abound rather than a one dark one perhaps not known by Sumerian Priests and Priestesses as Enki, or Ishtar but known as a male whose
    name was Xul (Zul).
    The Sumerian's practiced some fo the first forms of magic and were far superior to most civilizations, “hell they invented beer.”
    This satanic cult-practice was introduced to Mesopotamia from pre-
    Aryan India [which was Inanna/Ishtar's assigned domain - see Sitchin's
    Wars of Gods and Men]. The so-called "Harrappan" culture, featuring
    the Earth-Mother and fertility goddess Shakti and her satanic male
    figure Siva, established a set of colonies in the Middle East. The
    Sumer established as a colony by what the local Semites named "the black-headed people" (Dravidians), was a Harrapan colony. There, among
    the Semites, Shakti became known as Ishtar. In the Harrapan colony of Sheba-Ethiopia, Shakti became known as Athtar. In the Canaanite ("Phoenician") offshoot of Harrapan colonizing, she became known as
    Astarte. The Hellenic cults of Isis and Osiris, were offshoots of the Harrapan cult of Shakti-Siva, by this route. When the same cult spread
    to an Indo-european people, the Phrygians, Shakti-Siva assumed the Indo-european forms of Cybele and Dionysos (day-night). Apollo and
    Lucifer are variants of the name for Satan-Osiris-Dionysos. [Ishtar
    was ambitious.]
    Among the Canaanites, for example, Satanism expressed itself in such
    forms as the worship of Moloch, with the included custom of making a
    human sacrifice of the first-born of each marriage.
    Notably, that Canaanite tradition is featured in the Modern Satanists'
    ritual sexual and homicidal rituals upon infants and children used as
    human sacrifices.
    Grand Magister Blackwood, did the Church of Satan start doing
    sacrifices without me?
    Once again a great assumption occurs about Satanism, most people use
    animals in place of humans, in history there have been human
    sacrifices, however this is not condoned by The Temples of Satan, a replacement to human would be a goat or lamb.
    “I could care less about PETA.”
    I practice rituals that the Modern Satanist could never comprehend,
    they are widely known an shared amongst those of the Theistic Path of Satanism.
    By combining the means by which men and women are degraded into
    potentially satanic forms of beasts, as rituals associated with
    Satanism practiced as an "anti-religion," large-scale Satanic
    movements are developed through systematic proselyting.
    Grand Magister Blackwood: I am really uncertain about how many of the
    Real Satanist's actually do any proselyting, I have but often have
    found the Internet a far better communication tool for network amongst
    mass quantities of people.
    The result of this initiation, as we have already stressed,is no human
    being, but a former human being transformed into something which is
    not human.
    Modern liberals and others frown on reports of savage witch-hunts from earlier centuries.
    Usually, the special British COINTELPRO operation, run in Salem
    Massachusetts as a covert operation against the independence of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, is commonly referenced. A better comparison
    is the proliferating of Satanist movements during the fourteenth
    century; these witches were actually sub-human, Satanist beasts, who represented that sort of mass threat to the population of that period.
    So, the population, as its only defense against a genuine Satanic
    force of that sort, hunted them down and sought to wipe them out. Not
    for nothing, does the Old Testament warn, "Thou shalt not suffer a
    witch to live." The witches of the old Middle East and fourteenth-
    century Europe were very real, very evil witches, no longer human, but murderous beasts.
    Grand Magister Blackwood: Finally a few points I can agree on, the
    witches of old were much more real and fierce in nature, however
    Liberal and Conservative Lawmakers have dulled down our abilities to
    practice and have taken away our rights and voices of power.
    We still reign but mostly behind closed doors, I have been trying to
    awaken those of you but you still are silent.
    Modern Witchcraft
    The modern spread of witchcraft in English-speaking nations, began
    during the sixteenth century, in the setting of imported cabalist and Rosicrucian cults built up around Oxford and Cambridge.
    Francis Bacon and his secretary Thomas Hobbes were part of this
    The endemic inculcation in Satanism which this prompted in seventeenth- century England, exploded after the accession of King George I, in the
    form of the Hell-fire Clubs which proliferated among degenerate
    English nobility during the long Liberal prime ministry of Hugh
    During the Stuart Restoration period, the pro-satanic Rosicrucian and cabalist cultism around the Stuart court seized upon the case of
    Robert Bruce to reorganize the cult in a new form.
    Grand Magister Blackwood:The above paragraph once again is steeped in
    legend and myths expelled by historians who would never venture into a
    local Hellfire Club.
    Robert Bruce had been the leader of a group of Satan-worshiping
    (Baphomet) Templars, who had fled to Scotland, away from the angered
    justice of the Papacy and the King of France.
    What they brought with them, was the Templars' exploitation of the
    Cathar (Bogomil) tradition in the region of Toulouse and Albi, to
    build up the syncretic sort of Satanic worship the Templars had
    acquired in the Middle East.
    Grand Magister Blackwood:
    Legends persist regarding the Catha r's being Satanic, Gnostic
    perhaps, but the secret order established in France was originally The
    Templi Satanas, or what I have done restoration to The Temples of
    Satan, and as the new order the old was dedicated to the worship of

    The Papacy had enough of this, and the King of France acted to shut
    down Templars by the means customary in those times. A group of
    Templars under Bruce fled to Scotland, and after some initial
    difficulties, made themselves the lords of the place.
    The character of the Stuart court is illustrated by the
    characterization of one Stuart government of that period as the
    "Cabal." In his history, Macauley offers an amiable description of the affair. During this century, when the chest of Isaac Newton's
    laboratory papers was opened and examined, the content of Newton's
    actual "scientific work" turned out to be a selection of lurid and
    rather insane experiments in "black magic." The circles around Francis
    Bacon and Hobbes were, as we say today, "a prize collection of real
    So, the Templar mish-mash of Bogomil Gnosticism blended into Hashishin Satanism, caused Bruce's Templar credentials to be viewed as suitable myth-building material for the taste of the Stuart kooks of the
    period. The Liberal aristocracy of Britain became a principal
    concentration of this filthy stuff. When the Liberals came to full
    power, under Walpole, this Liberal stuff came out in such form as the proliferating Hell-Fire Clubs. That tradition was cultivated under the
    Second Earl of Shelbourne's puppet prime minister, William Pitt the
    Younger, with Satanic figures such as the powerful Jeremy Bentham in
    the fore.
    Satanism gained new ground under the protection of Liberalism and
    Romanticism during the nineteenth century. In England,the more
    virulent new forms surfaced around Oxford University's John Ruksin and
    the Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood. Out of this came theosophy, British
    "guild" socialism, the Fabian Society, Bertrand Russell, H. G. Wells,
    and Aleister Crowley -- Satanists all.
    This spilled over into the United States, notably in the circles of
    putative "Great Awakening" evangelist Johnathan Edwards, and his
    protege, Princeton Hell-Fire Club activist Aaron Burr. During the late nineteenth century, the sort of spoon-bending kookiness associated
    with such figures as Oliver Lodge and A. Conan Doyle spilled
    generously among the wealthy Anglophile liberals of the United
    In short, this sort of witchery has been endemic over the centuries.
    The difference is, that what was endemic has become epidemic.
    Grand Magister Blackwood: The evolution of Satanism, has taken many
    twists and turns from Gardner in Wicca, to Crowley summoning Demons,
    to La Vey summoning Himself, to myself speaking with Satan as the
    ancient sorcerers and sorceresses did.
    One little bit of advice if you think you are going to write about my religion Mr. LaRouche, please interview a few people who are living,
    and perhaps then you will get more facts and ideologies correct.
    I challenge anyone to bring me positive evidence of the Lucis Trust, a printed pamphlet a website URL and most of all a way I can speak to
    the leader, perhaps I would join and bring my people to the fold, or
    Hail The Lord and Master Satan
    Grand Magister Blackwood

    What do you know of H G Wells, and in particular his Open Conspiracy book?

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  • From Queequeg@21:1/5 to kjc.joiner@gmail.com on Mon Jul 15 13:44:28 2019
    kjc.joiner@gmail.com wrote:

    On Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:05:54 UTC+1, Blackwood wrote:
    What do you know of H G Wells, and in particular his Open Conspiracy book?

    Are you aware that you're responding to a thread that's over ten years


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  • From shaun@21:1/5 to Queequeg on Sun Mar 28 03:16:19 2021
    On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 6:45:01 AM UTC-7, Queequeg wrote:
    kjc.j...@gmail.com wrote:

    On Thursday, 2 October 2008 18:05:54 UTC+1, Blackwood wrote:
    What do you know of H G Wells, and in particular his Open Conspiracy book?
    Are you aware that you're responding to a thread that's over ten years


    Well guess what M Fers I'm keeping it going, with an actual answer no less

    The Lucis Trust is probably just the name used in paperwork for the trust funding the Lucis Publishing Company, which publishes all of Alice Bailey's works. People would probably have an easier time digging through whatever court records are held for
    trusts being established instead of a more esoteric route. Sure, the truth may not be nearly as romantic, but the trust itself is/was an actual thing, albeit as a funding entity and not a secret society.

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