In another thread the Caliphate was discussed. I have found a Muslim
sect today that has Caliphs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_Caliphate
From where I sit, the Ahmadis are in much the same position regarding mainstream Islam as the Mormons (Church of Jesus Christ of the LatterDay Saints/LDS) are regarding mainstream Christianity. Both groups
On 12/15/2015 3:31 PM, David Amicus wrote:
In another thread the Caliphate was discussed. I have found a Muslim
sect today that has Caliphs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_Caliphate
<wince> I just *knew* you were trying to start a flamewar in here, David. ;)
The Ahmadis are not mainstream Muslims. They're a breakaway group that
was founded by a man named Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in 1889 in a small town
named Qadian in what today is Pakistan. Ahmad claimed to be the Mahdi,
a figure mentioned in various Hadith who is supposed to appear in the
end times before the Day of Judgement. Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims have
wildly differing views of who and what the Mahdi is supposed to be, but neither group agrees with the Ahmadis.
That's as far as I will wade into *that* argument. ;)
From where I sit, the Ahmadis are in much the same position regarding mainstream Islam as the Mormons (Church of Jesus Christ of the LatterDay Saints/LDS) are regarding mainstream Christianity. Both groups
clearly stem from the parent religions, but their belief systems have diverged enough from the parent religions that many people consider them
to be not Islamic or Christian, but new religions.
So your question, as well intended as I'm sure it was, is likely to
offend many Muslims. It's as if a Muslim asked you or me (I'm an
Orthodox Christian) why Christians couldn't just recognize Joseph Smith
as a prophet, accept the Book of Mormon, and get rid of all the
divisions in Christianity. <wry grin> TL;DNR (Too long; didn't read)
was invented for the treatise that I would have to write to answer that question and all the assumptions it makes.
I'll let Yusuf Gursey or another Muslim answer specific questions about
the Caliphate, etc.
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Catherine Jefferson <tw86034@ergosphere.net>
Blog/Personal: http://www.ergosphere.net
On 12/15/2015 3:31 PM, David Amicus wrote:
In another thread the Caliphate was discussed. I have found a Muslim
sect today that has Caliphs.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_Caliphate=20
<wince> I just *knew* you were trying to start a flamewar in here, David.=
;)
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The Ahmadis are not mainstream Muslims. They're a breakaway group that
was founded by a man named Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in 1889 in a small town
named Qadian in what today is Pakistan. Ahmad claimed to be the Mahdi,
a figure mentioned in various Hadith who is supposed to appear in the
end times before the Day of Judgement. Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims have
wildly differing views of who and what the Mahdi is supposed to be, but neither group agrees with the Ahmadis.
=20
That's as far as I will wade into *that* argument. ;)
=20
From where I sit, the Ahmadis are in much the same position regarding mainstream Islam as the Mormons (Church of Jesus Christ of the LatterDay Saints/LDS) are regarding mainstream Christianity. Both groups
clearly stem from the parent religions, but their belief systems have diverged enough from the parent religions that many people consider them
to be not Islamic or Christian, but new religions.
=20
So your question, as well intended as I'm sure it was, is likely to
offend many Muslims. It's as if a Muslim asked you or me (I'm an
Orthodox Christian) why Christians couldn't just recognize Joseph Smith
as a prophet, accept the Book of Mormon, and get rid of all the
divisions in Christianity. <wry grin> TL;DNR (Too long; didn't read)
was invented for the treatise that I would have to write to answer that question and all the assumptions it makes.
=20
I'll let Yusuf Gursey or another Muslim answer specific questions about
the Caliphate, etc.
=20
=20
--=20
Catherine Jefferson <tw86034@ergosphere.net>
Blog/Personal: http://www.ergosphere.net
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