On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 12:50:03 PM UTC-8, Yusuf B Gursey wrote=:
wro=3DOn Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 6:40:04 AM UTC+2, Catherine Jefferson=
erpr=3Dte:
On 12/8/2015 4:27 PM, David Amicus wrote:=20
I was wondering what people especially Muslims think about this contemporary illustrated Qu'ran?
Qur'an not Qu'ran.
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It's not even a Qur'an codex as it contains no Arabic text. It's an int=
t ty=3Detation of the Qur'an as the article quotes the author as saying.
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My take is that it has a frivolty about it. Islam just doesn't have tha=
0pe of pop culture which Christianity has had since medieval times. =3D2=
ne=20
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/arts/design/30fink.html
Many Muslims will be at very best highly uncomfortable with this particular work of art. It violates some basic Muslims principles, o=
olsof which is not to depict the prophets or holy people. Stricter scho=
:') =3D=20
Illustrated versions of the "Stories of the Prophets" (qiSaS-ul-'anbiya=
pro=3Dgenre are not uncommon, especially after the Mongol period. Usually the=
lly =3Dphets are depicted veiled, especially Muhammad, but there a few that fu=
Tim=3Drepresent even Muhammad, particularly those from Central Asia under the=
of T=3Durids. Some visual religious art is found in Iran and among the Alevis =
imur=3Durkey. It's not a Sunni-Shia thing as the tradition started under the T=
g;ids who were Sunni.=3D20
=20
of Islam do not approve of any representational art.
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It's a pity that the artist didn't learn from Islamic traditions of calligraphy and bookmaking instead of following Western Christian medieval manuscript traditions, as he clearly did. Don't get me wron=
,I *love* medieval manuscripts. (I also do some bookmaking as a hobby=
talthough I've never made a book that was holy to any religion.) The
best Islamic calligraphy is utterly breathtaking. *That* is the righ=
raph=3Dstyle for doing a copy of the Qur'an.=20
Still, the codices are meant to be read so excessively elaborate callig=
y is usually avoided.=20
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Catherine Jefferson <tw86034@ergosphere.net>
Blog/Personal: http://www.ergosphere.net
My apologies for the typo about Qur'an. Thanks for pointing that out.
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I have no problem with the moderator correcting my spelling or grammar.
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Is Koran an acceptable spelling? What about Mohammed?
On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 6:40:04 AM UTC+2, Catherine Jefferson wro= te:
On 12/8/2015 4:27 PM, David Amicus wrote:
I was wondering what people especially Muslims think about this contemporary illustrated Qu'ran?
Qur'an not Qu'ran.
It's not even a Qur'an codex as it contains no Arabic text. It's an interpr= etation of the Qur'an as the article quotes the author as saying.
My take is that it has a frivolty about it. Islam just doesn't have that ty= pe of pop culture which Christianity has had since medieval times. =20
=20=20
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/arts/design/30fink.html
Many Muslims will be at very best highly uncomfortable with this
particular work of art. It violates some basic Muslims principles, one
of which is not to depict the prophets or holy people. Stricter schools
Illustrated versions of the "Stories of the Prophets" (qiSaS-ul-'anbiya:') = genre are not uncommon, especially after the Mongol period. Usually the pro= phets are depicted veiled, especially Muhammad, but there a few that fully = represent even Muhammad, particularly those from Central Asia under the Tim= urids. Some visual religious art is found in Iran and among the Alevis of T= urkey. It's not a Sunni-Shia thing as the tradition started under the Timur= ids who were Sunni.=20
of Islam do not approve of any representational art.
=20
It's a pity that the artist didn't learn from Islamic traditions of calligraphy and bookmaking instead of following Western Christian
medieval manuscript traditions, as he clearly did. Don't get me wrong;
I *love* medieval manuscripts. (I also do some bookmaking as a hobby, although I've never made a book that was holy to any religion.) The
best Islamic calligraphy is utterly breathtaking. *That* is the right style for doing a copy of the Qur'an.
Still, the codices are meant to be read so excessively elaborate calligraph= y is usually avoided.
=20
=20
--=20
Catherine Jefferson <tw86034@ergosphere.net>
Blog/Personal: http://www.ergosphere.net
On Thursday, December 10, 2015 at 2:30:04 AM UTC+2, David Amicus wrote:ie=3D
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My apologies for the typo about Qur'an. Thanks for pointing that out.
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No need.
=20
I have no problem with the moderator correcting my spelling or grammar.=20
=3D20
Is Koran an acceptable spelling? What about Mohammed?
They are OK for English, but Mohammed is out of fashion. These are the=20 resu=3D
lt how they sounded from a chain of word of mouth to English speakers. Or=
ntalists discovered that the origin of the letter <q> and the first lette=r =3D
of Arabic Qur'a:n are the same (ultimately both from Phoenician script).==20
Ar=3D=20
abic and other Semitic languages have two k like sounds, the one written=
as=3D=20
q is pronounced from further back in the throat. Arabic has three basic=
vo=3De =3D
wels /a/, /i/ and /u/ and it matters if they are long short, they all com=
in two lengths. But according to nearby consonants and the dialect they==20
var=3D=20
y a little in actual speech. These variations are not shown in writting=
sin=3D=20
ce they do not affect the meaning of the word. If indicated there would=
hav=3D=20
e been confusion among Arabs speaking different dialects. Scholarly=20 romaniz=3D
ations of Classical Arabic just stick to what is written. Modern=20 journalist=3D
s or immigratipn officials or the like play it by ear based on spoken=20 forms=3D
and the spelling conventions of different European languages. Turks have=
a=3D
fixed way of pronouncing Classical Arabic so in romanized Turkish these=
co=3D
nventions are adhered to.
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